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pierce0415
Dec 15th, 2005, 06:03 PM
On the men's side, Michael Chang is the only Asian man to win a Grand Slam. He also achieved the #2 ranking.

On the women's side, no Asian (oriental) woman has yet been represented in a Grand Slam final. Kimiko Date has reached 3 SF and also holds the record for being highest ranked with her #4 ranking.

I believe with the group of Asian players we have right now, Kimiko's records are going to be broken. Peng and Mirza are young and boast aggressive styles. Na Li is a bit older but also has potential if she is able to put everything together. Tian Tian Sun has a big serve and needs to focus more on singles and game plan. Zi Yan is 2 handed off both sides and also has good volleys. Jie Zheng is going to run all day and counterpunch.

Ayumi Morita is an unknown entity to me but she has phenom potential. Widjaja? Not sure if she will recover from her injury

guyinsf
Dec 15th, 2005, 06:24 PM
"On the women's side, no Asian (oriental) woman has yet been represented in a Grand Slam final"

So glad you wrote "(oriental)" after Asian cuz I have no idea what Asian means. Thanks for that very unnecessary and politically incorrect clarification.

iPatty
Dec 15th, 2005, 06:24 PM
It's really a toss up between Peng, Sania, and Jie. I was really impressed with Jie when I saw her play against Justine in Toronto. But I think that if Peng can bring all of her weapons together for once, then she could really do some damage!

Freakan
Dec 15th, 2005, 06:28 PM
i think only ayumi has a potential to improve to that level but she probably won't enter top10.

Tennace
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:45 PM
Mirza

Ellery
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:55 PM
Sania, Shuai, Jie, Na or Akiko. :)

I've never seen Ayumi play, but I am sure she is very talented, so she is a candidate too. :)

pierce0415
Dec 15th, 2005, 09:08 PM
"On the women's side, no Asian (oriental) woman has yet been represented in a Grand Slam final"

So glad you wrote "(oriental)" after Asian cuz I have no idea what Asian means. Thanks for that very unnecessary and politically incorrect clarification.

Just wanted to put it in there before people said Iroda or Shahar
I don't see anything wrong with it :rolleyes:

RJWCapriati
Dec 15th, 2005, 09:09 PM
I would go with Peng

auntie janie
Dec 16th, 2005, 05:04 PM
This is one of those polls that will be fun to re-visit at the end of a year, and after two years. By then we will probably all be laughing at how short-sighted we were. :D

Am looking forward to seeing how young Ayumi does this year. I also look forward to seeing how Angie W. and Su-Wei will rebound after having to miss so much time.

leeber
Dec 16th, 2005, 05:06 PM
LWP :p

pierce0415
Dec 16th, 2005, 05:28 PM
LWP :p

Who? :confused:

Helen Lawson
Dec 16th, 2005, 05:30 PM
Little Masha!!!

pcrtennis
Dec 16th, 2005, 07:54 PM
Ayumi Morita is extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemely talented.. She's fast like the other Japanese girls, but has powerful ground strokes. They're really penetrating...she's really great to watch. She also has great hands and volleys verrry well. Her serve is weak right now (though she's only 15) but unlike Sania Mirza, it's a smoth and natural motion.


Shuai Peng could get there with better mental fitness and consistency...she's got the talent.

Sania Mirza has amazing groudn strokes (and a great personality) but her serve is just terrrrrrible and the motion is just awkward and hitchy. Her movement/fitness needs to improve dramatically as well. If she can improve those areas, she will definieitly be top 3.


Na Li,Tian Tian Sun, Angie Widjaja, Su-Wei Hsieh could all for sure be at least top 20, with health and a full schedule.

LH2HBH
Dec 16th, 2005, 08:56 PM
"On the women's side, no Asian (oriental) woman has yet been represented in a Grand Slam final"

So glad you wrote "(oriental)" after Asian cuz I have no idea what Asian means. Thanks for that very unnecessary and politically incorrect clarification.


I think you do not know what Asian means. Before you freak out - Oriental would refer to an Asian person specifically from the countries that are part of the 'Orient' - China, Korea, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, etc..... as opposed to an Asian person from other Asian countries such as India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Iran...

So while it may not be a popular word, the use of the word 'Oriental' here is absolutely correct.

LH2HBH
Dec 16th, 2005, 09:00 PM
It doesn't matter what it means, it is considered by most a traditionally derogatory word becuase of how it came about. It is the Asian parallel of the word '******'.


I disagree.
That's just a kowtow to people who used the word 'oriental' in a derogatory manner. I think it's a word that should be used with pride. What word do you suggest we use instead to differentiate people of 'oriental' descent from people of Indian descent from people of Middle Eastern descent -- ALL of whom are 'Asian'.

LH2HBH
Dec 16th, 2005, 09:57 PM
The word Oriental stems from the idea of ignorant imperial Westerners from the 19th century's idea that 'they all look the same and act the same so lets give them a common name', in a similar way the word Negro came about. It's not the meaning that is offensive, it is where it stems from.


Hi Pengwin - the people to whom the word oriental refers to ARE genetically same/similar to eachother which is where the looking and acting alike comes into play. It's not shameful for similar people to look and act alike. What is the correct to term for these people.

LH2HBH
Dec 16th, 2005, 10:04 PM
the word 'oriental' comes from something that was oriented 'eastern' - which is why some countries became known as the orient and why Asian peoples from the far eastern part of the continent became known as oriental. eg. The Phillipines are the 'Pearl of the orient'. I realize that the word has now become demonized in the English language, but it's origins are really not malicious.

LH2HBH
Dec 16th, 2005, 10:12 PM
Asian or specifically East Asian or even South and East Asian is the preferrable term.

The problem with the term Oriental is how people used to (19th century and before) portray people from that area (i.e. very condesending and patronising), not the fact that it groups people.

It's fine for grouping food, rugs, culture in general, but it's quite derogatory to refer to people as 'oriental', which is a word which would have been used by 19th century sailors who had never heard of China, Japan and Korea.


Well - pengwin - we did a good job of talking out our little 'word problem' as adults!! THANKS :) - ALTHOUGH, I prefer in general that we don't demonize words in the English language in favour of being politcally correct, which is why I was arguing the point! Have great day

Derek.
Dec 16th, 2005, 10:39 PM
Peng or Mirza, but I don't think they will go to the "next level."

brunof
Dec 16th, 2005, 11:43 PM
This is one of those polls that will be fun to re-visit at the end of a year, and after two years. By then we will probably all be laughing at how short-sighted we were. :D

Am looking forward to seeing how young Ayumi does this year. I also look forward to seeing how Angie W. and Su-Wei will rebound after having to miss so much time.

Here are my pre-season predictions:

I expect the following "Asians" to be ranked inside the top 100..

Ai Sugiyama
Shinobu Asagoe
Rika Fujiwara
Akiko Morgami
Aiko Nakamura
Saori Obata
Sania Mirza
Zheng Jie
Li Na
Li Ting
Shuai Peng
Akgul Amanmuradova
Shahar Peer
Yoon-Jeong Cho
Meilen Tu
Vania King
Sun Tian Tian
Zi Yan

jamatthews
Dec 16th, 2005, 11:45 PM
The Ren Sisters... :angel:

ceiling_fan
Dec 17th, 2005, 01:31 AM
I thought Michael Chang was considered American :confused:

new-york
Dec 17th, 2005, 01:33 AM
Well i don't see any of them reachin that next level that soon.

Peng and Sania.

drake3781
Dec 17th, 2005, 01:50 AM
Here are my pre-season predictions:

I expect the following "Asians" to be ranked inside the top 100..

Ai Sugiyama
Shinobu Asagoe
Rika Fujiwara
Akiko Morgami
Aiko Nakamura
Saori Obata
Sania Mirza
Zheng Jie
Li Na
Li Ting
Shuai Peng
Akgul Amanmuradova
Shahar Peer
Yoon-Jeong Cho
Meilen Tu
Vania King
Sun Tian Tian
Zi Yan

Peng: my favorite Asian player
Amanmuradova: I've become interested in her this year, and curious to see her in 2006. Does she get to play many tournaments?

*Jool*
Dec 17th, 2005, 01:54 AM
where's that chick some expected to defeat Serena in US Open ? Chiang or something ? everybody forgot about her already !!! :lol:

I dt know if any of these will ever reach top 10. :shrug:
My vote goes to Peng .

blumaroo
Dec 17th, 2005, 01:59 AM
None of those.
I like Peng the most out of that list. But none of them will take it to the next level which is IMO winning slams or major tournaments.

brunof
Dec 17th, 2005, 03:37 AM
where's that chick some expected to defeat Serena in US Open ? Chiang or something ? everybody forgot about her already !!! :lol:

I dt know if any of these will ever reach top 10. :shrug:
My vote goes to Peng .

The player you are questioning is Yung-Jan Chan. When I saw her, I thought she was quite good, but still very inconsistent. She only played 9 tournaments in 2005, so once she is unrestricted I expect her to make at least the top 100.

LucasArg
Dec 17th, 2005, 05:40 AM
A lot of them. They will get only bigger, there are so many tournaments in Asia that I believe we are gonna see a lot of new players.


Sania Mirza, Shuai Peng, Na Li have already taken it to another level, and they will keep improving.:)

solid3k
Dec 17th, 2005, 07:07 AM
Sania Mirza :devil: :bounce:

skanky~skanketta
Dec 17th, 2005, 07:12 AM
Just wanted to put it in there before people said Iroda or Shahar
I don't see anything wrong with it :rolleyes:well, just so u know, sania isn't an oriental asian.

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Dec 17th, 2005, 08:23 AM
mirza, morita & peng are the only ones i can see that could possinly make top 10 but if they do is another thing

alex14
Dec 17th, 2005, 10:03 AM
ive seen ayumi play and she is VERY talented, her footwork is amazing and she is so intense!! amazing to watch...shes got potential

propi
Dec 17th, 2005, 10:11 AM
Actually it's sad but I don't think any of the players right now can go to the next level, Kimiko raised the level A LOT, she will continue being the queen for some time still.
What she and other asian players as Sawamatsu or Basuki did for tennis there was impressive and we should still :worship: them :D

pancake
Dec 17th, 2005, 10:19 AM
None of those.
I like Peng the most out of that list. But none of them will take it to the next level which is IMO winning slams or major tournaments.
Have you seen all of their playing?

pancake
Dec 17th, 2005, 10:22 AM
Ayumi Morita is VERY talented.
However,her serve needs improvement...

Grachka
Dec 17th, 2005, 10:53 AM
Where did Pengwin's posts go? :p

Dementirilenko
Dec 17th, 2005, 11:09 AM
I don't know all of the Asian players, but in my opinion it could be Peng.