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LH2HBH
Dec 14th, 2005, 10:47 PM
HEY - am having trouble developing my second serve. Am a precent decent 3.5 player with a game that is maturing nicely but can't seem to get that fluid service motion and I can't seem to get any spin on the ball. Any tips?? Anyone in Vancouver want to coach me??? :rolleyes:

Craigy
Dec 14th, 2005, 10:49 PM
throw the ball slightly further to left to apply spin. Keep good racket head speed when hitting threw the ball.

controlfreak
Dec 15th, 2005, 12:02 AM
Toss the ball highish and so that it would land on your head. Concentrate 100% of your racket head movement on brushing up vertically up the back of the ball. The point of impact will be slightly lower than for a flat serve because your arm should not be fully outstretched at the moment of impact - it should be unbending and accelerating the racket upwards. These serves will be like moonballs at first but once you are getting lots of spin, you can angle the racket head movement so the ball goes more forward and less upward. For the grip you may hear different things but I use a backhand grip because it allows you to put some wrist snap into the hitting action.

Ryan
Dec 15th, 2005, 12:09 AM
HEY - am having trouble developing my second serve. Am a precent decent 3.5 player with a game that is maturing nicely but can't seem to get that fluid service motion and I can't seem to get any spin on the ball. Any tips?? Anyone in Vancouver want to coach me??? :rolleyes:


Despite having an inconsistant first serve, my second serve generally has decent topspin and pretty good speed. I focus on throwing the ball very high, slightly to the left of my head (im lefthanded), so for you it would be a bit left from your tossing hand. Just focus on hitting forward instead of down necessarily and it should generate some topspin.

K-Dog
Dec 15th, 2005, 12:21 AM
Use your legs and don't be afraid to accelerate on contact for spin. Throw the ball to the left to get topspin and to the right to get slice.

yukon145
Dec 15th, 2005, 01:09 AM
dont slow down your swing just because its a second serve, you should be swinging with the same amount of pace as a first serve.

bionic71
Dec 15th, 2005, 01:32 AM
Lots of good advice so far...
You should get hold of a coach who will deconstruct the serve for you and point of what can be worked on.

Without seeing your serve its hard to comment...
One of the biggest second serve mistakes is that the entire swing is slowed down too much...in fact it is best to over exaggerate the swing, increasing the height of the toss in the process....so that you get better extension. A slower swing and lower the toss combination will result in a cramped delivery that will not get over the net, or if it does it will have little depth or spin.

In practice make every serve a second serve, toss high and slightly left, snapping the wrist through on contact to impart spin. You might over hit them for a while, but that can be corrected as you get a better feel and add more spin.

Also, as mentioned above, use your legs. Bending your knees forces you to throw a high ball toss and aids acceleration through the swing.

Keep trying...and good luck.
Serving buckets and buckets of balls in practice is the only way to "find" a reliable second serve.

kosmikgroove
Dec 15th, 2005, 02:37 AM
Apprehension is what kills second serves.

njnetswill
Dec 15th, 2005, 03:18 AM
Another technique is to toss the ball very low, and slightly to the right of where your first serve toss would be. Slicing the ball then becomes a natural stroke when the ball is placed this way, and it is a good backup serve when other serves go awry.

MLF
Dec 17th, 2005, 09:48 AM
What everyone has said so far is good advice, but the main problem I think people have with a 2nd serve is mental. Automatically they think "oh no it's a second serve" and have created a problem before the ball is even tossed in the air. So try not to think about it, pick your spot and just relax and hit freely through the serve.

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Dec 17th, 2005, 11:09 AM
id agree with the mental aspect its like youve got to get it in or its over i generally have a very high percentage first serve because my second serve is to just pushed over unless im in a great rhythm in a match