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LifeWasADisaster
May 4th, 2002, 03:18 PM
...I was stunned by the way Venus played. Hingis played pretty well but it was Venus who was impeccable.
I think Hingis understood that she wouldn't win this by keeping the ball in play - she was pretty aggressive, hitting the ball early and close to the lines, but she made too many errors as a consequence. Venus on the other hand was I think in her best form, despite her ankle, which was still taped. She seemed to have no problems with it whatsoever and was hitting winners from all over the court. At times Hingis was dominating the rally but Venus would hit a winner when she could barely reach the ball...must have been frustrating for Hingis but Venus was just way better.
As for the statistics, they didn't show the stats after the match was finished but they did show it after the first set and this was
the winners/unforced errors stat:

Venus winners: 22 ; UE's: 12
Hingis: winners: 11 UE's: 15 (first set only)

So in that set, Venus actually hit fewer errors than hingis! This was a totally different Venus than the one that barely beat Sanchez yesterday, which was also noticed by the commentator.

After all it was a high quality match and good to watch but as a Hingis fan I just wonder how Venus manages to recover so quickly after she could barely run yesterday.

per4ever
May 4th, 2002, 03:21 PM
Venus played terrific, but Martina has to work on that serve..it's the weakest serve in the top 20. Her first serves are sooo slow..

TSequoia01
May 4th, 2002, 03:27 PM
Venus was just being..well Venus. Good to hear that Marti is mixing in some aggression to her passive game. If she gets her serve in order will remain in the top 5. ;)

Williams Rulez
May 4th, 2002, 03:31 PM
It is great that Venus had played a good match, good news indeed. This shows that Venus can play well on clay.

Good to see Martina going for more during the match as well, playing aggressive, sure it failed, but with practice, I'm sure she'll succeed.

vishniac
May 4th, 2002, 03:41 PM
I saw it too.
A few more comments:
--The score could have been harsher if Venus wouldn't have made a lot of double faults. She admitted in the interview later that she had to 'fight with her serve today'.

--It was stunning to see her performing so many touchy drop-shots, from the baseline or the net. Almost always made the point.
Against someone standing further behind the baseline than Hingis, it will be even more devastating.

--From what I understood (they translated in German...argh!), she told that she slightly turned her ankle during her first match, but there was little pain until yesterday during the match. She put a lot of ice during the evening, the night, the morning, and now she's ok.

"Topaz"
May 4th, 2002, 03:51 PM
I didn't get to see the match. Many thanks, LifeWasADisaster, for the report.

Williams Rulez
May 4th, 2002, 03:54 PM
Good to see Venus using more dropshots, a really important shot on clay... :D

veronica
May 4th, 2002, 04:07 PM
Congrats on your win. Glad to hear you played so well. Thanks for the reports.

persond
May 4th, 2002, 04:48 PM
:wavey: :wavey: Hi LifeWasADisaster and Vishniac,

Thanks for the update/report on the Hingis/Williams match. Glad to hear Venus is playing so well and will at least be a contender (legitimate contender) at Roland Garros.:D :D

Gooooooooooooooo VeeeeeNUS:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Volcana
May 4th, 2002, 04:56 PM
Thanks. The result makes a bit more sense now.

Deira
May 4th, 2002, 05:05 PM
Thanks for the reports and glad to know Vee's injury did not flare up :wavey:

Infiniti2001
May 4th, 2002, 05:08 PM
Many, many , thanks for your report. Did you tape it by any chance??

ot1962
May 4th, 2002, 05:18 PM
LifeWasADisaster,

Thanks for the report. Great to have an insight on the match.

But please tell me something....

Was Venus really COMFORTABLE on the red clay. I don't mean with her injury.

I mean really really C-O-M-F-O-R-T-A-B-L-E on clay????? Again thanks. I wish i could grab a copy of this match.

Pureracket
May 4th, 2002, 06:08 PM
Lifewasadisaster,
Thanks.

LifeWasADisaster
May 4th, 2002, 09:20 PM
As for Venus being comfortable on clay, yes I think she was. She didn't seem to have problems with the surface at all. Venus has beaten justine, hingis and a few other good clay players so I guess you could say she is comfortable on clay. I hate to say this as a Hingis fan but I think when Venus is at her best, she is better than Hingis - even on clay.

I did tape this match....I am willing to make copies if you have something nice to trade it for.

Cybelle Darkholme
May 4th, 2002, 09:32 PM
I have tapes! Email me cause I really would like to trade. I lost most of my tapes during a move but currently I have:

nasdaq
quaters venus versus elena
quarters serena versus hingis partial
semi serena versus venus
final serena versus capritati

statefarm
semi serena versus hingis
final serena versus capriati

ameiliaisland
final venus versus henin

i also have
newhaven 2001
venus versus cap semi
venus versus davenport final

i have the serena versus patty charleston but im probably erasing that, sorry patty.

Tatiana Panova
May 4th, 2002, 09:34 PM
I think it time now that we are seeing the Williams domination. I know everyone blabs on about it but I can really see now how the Williams sisters are going to dominate tennis and that noone is really a match for them except people who hit the ball as hard or maybe move as well.

anton
May 4th, 2002, 09:41 PM
I want that match too.
please contact me.
thanks.
i have tapes to trade.

LucasArg
May 4th, 2002, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the report. I wish I could watch the match.

I am glad Venus is playing well on clay adn her injury was no serious.

Congrats Vee:wavey:

Infiniti2001
May 4th, 2002, 10:45 PM
I did tape this match....I am willing to make copies if you have something nice to trade it for.

These are the tapes I have of Martina ( RG 99 vs Steffi) , Zurich 99, US Open 2000, wimby 2000, Ericsson 2001 vs Venus , and Us Open2001 vs Serena ). For some reason I tape over all Venus's losses. If you want any, let me know-- I am also willing to pay for that tape :P

anton
May 4th, 2002, 11:14 PM
http://www.venustennis.com/us001.jpg
hello, can I please trade for this match. email me at venustennis@venustennis.com
thanks.

Rolling-Thunder
May 5th, 2002, 03:28 AM
Way to go Vee :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Yeah Baby

And thanks for the report. We rely on each other whenever the situation arises. That makes this a true cyber community. We await your report on the final.

:wavey: Thanks :wavey: So :wavey: Much:wavey:

Chance
May 5th, 2002, 11:52 AM
thank you LifeWasADisaster and vishniac


Much appreciated:) :wavey: