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Dec 6th, 2005, 04:01 AM
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Maria Sharapova Tops Russia’s Rich List for Athletes

MosNews


Russia’s 18-year-old tennis star Maria Sharapova has topped the list of Russia’s wealthiest athletes published by the Finance magazine Monday. Maria’s income in 2005 was $14.5 million.

Apart from making good prize money at tennis tournaments, Sharapova gained from advertising contracts and mobile phone tunes, the magazine added.

Basketball player Andrey Kirilenko of the Utah Jazz, who made $10.97 million, is ranked second, and hockey player Alexei Yashin of the New York Islanders, with a $7.6 million contract, was third.

Of the seven other Russian athletes who made it to the top ten, six hockey players: Nikolay Khabibulin of the Chicago Blackhawks with $6.75 million, Ilya Kovalchuk of Atlanta Thrashers with $6.5 million, Sergey Fyodorov of Columbus Blue Jackets with $6.08 million, Alexei Kovalyov of Montreal Canadiens with $4.5 million, Alexei Zhamnov of Boston Bruins with $4.1 million and Sergey Zubkov of Dallas Stars with $4 million.

Boxer Konstantin Tszyu, with $5.5 million, was ranked seventh.

Altogether, Russia’s 100 wealthiest athletes made about $179 million in 2005. This is a decline compared with last year’s $195 million, for which the magazine says is mostly accounted for by the new NHL trade union regulations.

The incomes were evaluated on two basic sources. The first was sports money — money coming from signed contracts of prize money, while the second was advertising money.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 6th, 2005, 04:02 AM
Andrei Kirilenko! :rocker2:

Maria Croft
Dec 6th, 2005, 09:43 AM
wow, looks like Maria is the only Russian woman in that top ten

Go Maria!

Martian Jeza
Dec 6th, 2005, 09:58 AM
Don't worry Roman, your place is still safe :p

iine:
Dec 6th, 2005, 12:12 PM
Andrei Kirilenko! :rocker2:
is andrei kirilenko related to maria kirilenko? ..

Dan23
Dec 6th, 2005, 12:53 PM
Nah theyre not related ;)

bellascarlett
Dec 6th, 2005, 01:52 PM
wow, looks like Maria is the only Russian woman in that top ten

Go Maria!

Yeah that's so great! She must be so proud...Why can't Marat earn as much as these hockey players???

Steve-o
Dec 6th, 2005, 07:34 PM
That'll finance a few shopping trips.

I see the Russians are still claiming Kostya Tszyu. :D

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 7th, 2005, 12:13 AM
is andrei kirilenko related to maria kirilenko? ..

I wish... So I would get to look for Maria every once in a while... but sadly no..

Andy.
Dec 7th, 2005, 04:53 AM
I would have thought that Dementieva or Myskina would have made the list thay earn a decent amount of prise money and they would have pretty good endorsements i would have thought.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 7th, 2005, 05:06 AM
I would have thought that Dementieva or Myskina would have made the list thay earn a decent amount of prise money and they would have pretty good endorsements i would have thought.

Tennis players don't make that much unless they are Federer level of competency... or Agassi's level of charm...

Myskina not only failed, but she is also not appealing to many target markets. Dementieva played amazingly, but, Russia forgets about her, and she has very few, if any endorsements at all..

Now let's look at Maria, earning a very stable semi final at almost every slam, winning three tournaments including a Tier I. Last but not least, if it weren't for Michelle Wie, Maria has the most endorsements that any female athlete in the world does have.

players like Andrei Kirilenko are so good, that they are just payed to play... that is good enough for the NBA.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 8th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Goldenlox? Sure Myskina didn't fail? I don't see her having success this season compared to others. Myskina DID fail, and Nastya IS NOT appealing to many people. She is very lucky and unworhty already of having few strong fans.

@m@nd@
Dec 9th, 2005, 02:03 AM
thats awesome...keep it going maria! :worship:

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 13th, 2005, 06:30 AM
I wonder if MAria will ever be a billionaire..

Maria Croft
Dec 13th, 2005, 08:45 AM
I wonder if MAria will ever be a billionaire..


I don't think so :p

Andy.
Dec 13th, 2005, 09:49 AM
I don't think so :p

I think though that she will definatly earn well over 100 million if she is now earning a reported 23 million a year so she is going to retire one rich girl.

DrChemicalX
Dec 13th, 2005, 02:47 PM
I wish... So I would get to look for Maria every once in a while... but sadly no..

:sad:

Maria Croft
Dec 13th, 2005, 04:57 PM
I think though that she will definatly earn well over 100 million if she is now earning a reported 23 million a year so she is going to retire one rich girl.


yeah probably, but not 10 times 100 million, and that's what you need to get a billion ;)

mashenka best 1
Dec 13th, 2005, 10:10 PM
good sums

good summon!

lol
lol

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 14th, 2005, 12:44 AM
:sad:

I am confused Trent...:rolleyes:

DrChemicalX
Dec 14th, 2005, 11:41 AM
I am confused Trent...:rolleyes:

heh, i suppose i was being slightly sarcastic... just taking advantage of the fact you wish Andrei Kirilenko was maria kirilenko's relative so you could look for her around Salt Lake city once in a while... That indeed would be good for you Friend - : )

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 15th, 2005, 05:08 AM
heh, i suppose i was being slightly sarcastic... just taking advantage of the fact you wish Andrei Kirilenko was maria kirilenko's relative so you could look for her around Salt Lake city once in a while... That indeed would be good for you Friend - : )

It would be awesome indeed...

mashenka best 1
Dec 15th, 2005, 05:12 PM
"taking ADvantage"

not too tennis-Y a term....

rather more.... nudging

than driving.... (bad joke of the week award... come and get me!!!)

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 16th, 2005, 04:54 AM
You puzzle me mashenkov...

mashenka best 1
Dec 28th, 2005, 10:44 PM
very phoney??

* andre's charm ~~~~ must come from inner style

masha is the heiress apparant to the double A!

yay hosay

Andy Mac
Dec 28th, 2005, 10:46 PM
utah jazz.....(boring).....NBA..:yawn:

xan
Dec 28th, 2005, 11:15 PM
Hey Duiz, I didn't know you knew how to put sentences together. Way to go.
Maria Sharapova is overrated in every area. She's comes on as very phoney which seems to sell in this country. Elena is a true hero in Russia, especially after Fed Cup. The problem is Elena doesn't flaunt herself the way Sharapova does. I get the feeling Maria will do anything for a quick buck. Besides she's not really Russian, she's american in every way, especially the american bank account she has. If she was really Russian, she would live there. You can have her.

Idiot. :fiery:

Maria is "Overrated" by winning Wimbledon, Tour Championships and WTA No 1?

It's funny how its always people with US flags against their names who complain that Maria "isn't really Russian"! :rolleyes: There are hundreds of players who don't live in their home country.

And do you really think that if Elena or anyone else could get contracts to endorse Canon, Nike, Motorola and tag heuer, they'd reject them? :lol:

Take your hater attitudes elsewhere, mate.

the cat
Dec 29th, 2005, 12:04 AM
Fred, you've got to come to grips with Maria Sharapova being the queen of Russian tennis and Russia weathliest athlete even if she isn't as Russian as Elena Dementieva. If it doesn't bother Elena Dementieva why does it bother you so much? :scratch: And your take that Masha should live in Russia is perplexing. :confused: The best Russian hockey players live in North America and alot of Russia's top athletes don't live in Russia for various reasons. I like you Fred admire Elena's loyalty to Russia and her character as a person. :) But it's not Masha's fault Elena who is great in photo shoots chooses to do very little compared to Maria where photo shoots and publicity are concerend. And to constantly run down Maria comes accross as desperation for you in your fight to help Elena conquer Maria on and off the court. I'm sure Elena is very happy with her life and very successful career. I know you want to see more of Elena in terms of photo shoots. But that's not her style.

And Fred your take that Maria is scared of Vaidisova is really stretching it. :rolleyes:

lakan kildap
Dec 29th, 2005, 12:49 AM
Believe me sonny, if Elena lived in this country and wanted endosements, she would get them. The big difference is that Elena isn't money hungary or greedy and she is a true Russian.

Believe me sonny? How condescending.

First off, if I were Canon and I wanted someone to sell my wares, I wouldn't hire Elena. As beautiful as Elena must be in person, she does not render well on TV. She doesn't have a great smile (those teeth). Canon is a marketing giant as well as a technological one, if they chose endorsers based on anything other than screen presence, they would have chosen Sampras instead of Agassi to promote the EOS Rebel in the 90's. See, "[physical] image is everything." That's exactly the line Canon used.

(And before I pick Elena, why not Jennifer Love Hewitt, who happens to have breasts?)

Elena is a wonderful competitor, and at least in postmatch court interviews, appears to be a really nice person. But the "model" thing is a pipe dream, fueled by the media that just keeps on calling every tall blonde tennis player a "supermodel". Saying she'd get endorsements in the US if she wanted them is assuming too much. Daniela Hantuchova, probably, Elena, no.

lakan kildap
Dec 29th, 2005, 01:10 AM
I have no problem with Maria as a tennis player, but she has overdone it off court.
From what I have read, she is not popular with other Russian players including Elena.
Maria is very arrogant off court and acts quite spoiled. That's what I resent. The whole Hollywood stuff. She comes off as totally phoney.
Absolutely no humility on her part. I know you look at her through rose colored glasses, but that's your choice.
You will find out exactly how Russian Maria is when she skips Russia's first Fed Cup match against Belgium. Maybe then you will get it.

Rose colored glasses maybe, but I picked the glasses. I've just accepted the fact that with professional athletes, or any celebrity, for that matter, we really shouldn't expect too much. I mean, even Johnny Damon signed with the Yankees after saying he won't play with them. Turning his back on a loyal Boston fan base.

Bill Russell summed it up best when he said :"You owe the fans as much as they owe you: nothing."

Now, on the subject of Maria not playing Fed Cup, let me ask you. If you're a tennis player and you want to play for your country's team, but all current members of that team, including the bigwigs, are saying they won't play if you're on the team because of just about any reason (such as your father being an insufferable a-hole), would you still join the team? If you can't say an unqualified "yes" to that, I don't think you or I should expect Sharapova to do better.

~lollipop_girl~
Dec 29th, 2005, 01:16 AM
I have no problem with Maria as a tennis player, but she has overdone it off court.
From what I have read, she is not popular with other Russian players including Elena.
Maria is very arrogant off court and acts quite spoiled. That's what I resent. The whole Hollywood stuff. She comes off as totally phoney.
Absolutely no humility on her part. I know you look at her through rose colored glasses, but that's your choice.
You will find out exactly how Russian Maria is when she skips Russia's first Fed Cup match against Belgium. Maybe then you will get it.
Why does it matter if Maria is Russian in your sense of the word when it comes to us being her fans?.... We will still be her fans no matter what nationality she is, I'm not here just because she is Russian and I hope nationality isn't anyone's reason for being any players fan!

lakan kildap
Dec 29th, 2005, 01:22 AM
Off court Agassi is a perfect comparison to Maria. Both are total phonies, which you apparently like. Remember Agassi, 'image is everything'. I'm sure Maria goes by that adage. She's so fake.
First of all Maria doesn't come close to Elena in looks, no where's near..
If you judge a girl by her breasts, then you must be the most shallow person on this earth. Try looking at substance. I bet you don't even know what that is.

They're all phonies. The only ones who weren't were that Dodger pitcher who refused to pitch Game 1 of the WS because the date fell on the Yom Kippur, and the Cleveland Browns running back who quit in his prime because he felt he had nothing else to prove. And yeah, Ted Williams, too, who refused to kowtow to the media to the very end.

I don't think you got my meaning on the looks subject. I don't care how much better she looks than Maria in your opinion, but that fact remains ELENA DOES NOT LOOK THAT GOOD ON TV. ON TV. ON TV. Remember that as it also applies to the Jennifer Love Hewitt subject. In case it still isn't clear to you, I WAS SPEAKING FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF A MARKETER (SUCH AS CANON) LOOKING FOR AN ENDORSER.

As for substance, I know it more than you do, and if I wanted substance in a woman, I won't be looking for it in a pro tennis player. I'd look for it in women I've known personally for a long time.

fredlander
Dec 29th, 2005, 02:01 AM
Good point.

fredlander
Dec 29th, 2005, 12:21 PM
They're all phonies. The only ones who weren't were that Dodger pitcher who refused to pitch Game 1 of the WS because the date fell on the Yom Kippur, and the Cleveland Browns running back who quit in his prime because he felt he had nothing else to prove. And yeah, Ted Williams, too, who refused to kowtow to the media to the very end.

I don't think you got my meaning on the looks subject. I don't care how much better she looks than Maria in your opinion, but that fact remains ELENA DOES NOT LOOK THAT GOOD ON TV. ON TV. ON TV. Remember that as it also applies to the Jennifer Love Hewitt subject. In case it still isn't clear to you, I WAS SPEAKING FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF A MARKETER (SUCH AS CANON) LOOKING FOR AN ENDORSER.

As for substance, I know it more than you do, and if I wanted substance in a woman, I won't be looking for it in a pro tennis player. I'd look for it in women I've known personally for a long time.
That pitcher was Sandy Koufax and the running back was Jim Brown. Oviously they both had convictions that they both stuck to. That seem's to be rare these days. Very insightful point.
My point is just because you make lots of money, that does not make you a success. To me character and integrity are much more important than big bucks. However in this world that doesn't seem to count very much. I also find most sports celebrities to be terrible role models for young people.
As for substance, you hit the nail right on the head. Sports really isn't reality, probably why many athletes have trouble adjusting to life after a sports career. Thanks for the lesson, I needed it. ;)

P.S. Elena is very photogenic and looks good anywhere. She just doesn't come accross too well when she speaks(harsh accent). I love her anyway. :wavey:

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 29th, 2005, 08:45 PM
fedlander... I am personally a fan of Dementieva... but the difference I believe is that Dementieva happens to be more introverted than Maria. plus, Maria is very ambitious and thirsty for money and success. Something Dementeiva doesn't need.

Fredlander... your arguements intead of being constructive, are being rather offensive. Speak and behave properly, and we may consider your ideas to be out of the childish sense.

fredlander
Dec 29th, 2005, 09:07 PM
OK Mr. Duiz. Thanks for setting me straight. :yeah:

the cat
Dec 29th, 2005, 10:36 PM
Interesting posts by all in this thread. Especially lakan :) Fred, I don't know how you know that Maria doesn't have character and integrity. :scratch: And she's only 18 and deserves the time needed to mature as a young lady. But so far so good for Masha. :)

Good point by Duiz how Elena is intoverted while Maria is ambitious for moeny and success. That's very true.

fredlander
Dec 29th, 2005, 11:30 PM
Hey Mr. Cat, I never said Maria didn't have character or integrity. I just feel she has been exploited by her parents the same way Kornokova was, all in the name of money. When I see pictures on the internet of Maria half naked and in compromising positions, I get really pissed, not really at her, but at her idiot parents, who are suppose to protect her, not exploit her to make big bucks. Even the WTA at the 2004 YEC, had a ad showing Maria half naked and saying how hot she is. They never mentioned the other 7 talented players that were at that event. Even ESPN does the same thing every time Maria plays. They zoom in on her butt or breasts every time she bends over. One match the shot of the day was Maria's outfit blowing over her head to the jingle 'sexy'. Pretty pathetic that a 18 year old girl is known around the world as a sex kitten. All her parents are interested in is how much money they can make off their underage daughter. Unfortunately, she seems to think she deserves all this attention, that the world revolves around her. I've seen it all before(Capriatti) and a big fall is usually in the future. Maria is only 18 and she is already arrogant. Like Robert Lansdorf said, people should leave her alone and just let her play tennis.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 30th, 2005, 07:53 AM
Hey Mr. Cat, I never said Maria didn't have character or integrity. I just feel she has been exploited by her parents the same way Kornokova was, all in the name of money. When I see pictures on the internet of Maria half naked and in compromising positions, I get really pissed, not really at her, but at her idiot parents, who are suppose to protect her, not exploit her to make big bucks. Even the WTA at the 2004 YEC, had a ad showing Maria half naked and saying how hot she is. They never mentioned the other 7 talented players that were at that event. Even ESPN does the same thing every time Maria plays. They zoom in on her butt or breasts every time she bends over. One match the shot of the day was Maria's outfit blowing over her head to the jingle 'sexy'. Pretty pathetic that a 18 year old girl is known around the world as a sex kitten. All her parents are interested in is how much money they can make off their underage daughter. Unfortunately, she seems to think she deserves all this attention, that the world revolves around her. I've seen it all before(Capriatti) and a big fall is usually in the future. Maria is only 18 and she is already arrogant. Like Robert Lansdorf said, people should leave her alone and just let her play tennis.

Much more moderated, progression is thus being shown. But I must say, don't include Yelena on this. We seriously don't know how they feel like that. It may be just Maria;s ambition for money and success. It may be just Yuri pounding the need for money, or "happiness."

"Kornokova," was a failure. Cute looking girl, but nothing more than a failure, and the only way she could have ever achieved success is by selliing her imagee off. Maria gets to be very successful, and still be a very exclusive face.

By the way, you cannot shame Maria for the wants of the people. What i mean, is that if WTA wants to put her face on posters rather than the best 8 players, is their own thing to sell the game. A poster is not tennis, but the very game is demonstrated on the court.

fredlander
Dec 30th, 2005, 02:22 PM
You don't ignore the other top players for the sake of one. That's what causes desension, plus it's not right at the year end championship's. The poster shows her half naked laying on the court(bad taste). Maria is a pretty girl and a good tennis player, but to say her face is exclusive is rediculous.(what a stretch).
Pretty girls are a dime a dozen, even on the WTA tour. Too much publicity will make the public sick of her. Tennis magazine had about 30 pictures of her in it. Making lots of money DOES NOT MAKE YOU A SUCCESS. There's alot more to life then that. Ana Konokova(Gutter girl) is no success anywhere, unless you consider taking off your clothes for money and suing you parents over a house a success. Before 2004 Wimbledon Maria was a very sweet girl. Now she acts arrogant and nasty at times. Can't really blame her, it's the way you are brought up. I'd rather see her stick to doing what she does best. PLAYING TENNIS!

the cat
Dec 30th, 2005, 10:33 PM
Anna Kournikova was not a failure. She made it to #8 in singles and #1 in doubles. Her promising career was cut short by numerous injuries to her feet and back. Sure Anna never lived up to her potential and she did underachive as a tennis player. But I can't call her a failure in part becauae she's worth about 100 million dollars and is the most popular female athlete of all time. :D And the name is spelled Kournikova. ;)

Yes Fred Maria has been exploited by IMG and her father. But now she's old enough to understand the game she's playing off the court and it will be interesting to see if she cuts back on some of her tremendous amount of off court activities in the next couple of years. Maria needs more time to rest and practice tennis and not spend so much time with sponsor and media obligations.

Duiz makes a pertinent point about Masha's mother Yelena. It's shame she doesn't travel with Masha nad have a bigger say in Maria's career and life. Masha is surrounded by men all day on the WTA Tour and that cannot be good for a young woman. :(

lakan kildap
Jan 2nd, 2006, 12:26 AM
P.S. Elena is very photogenic and looks good anywhere. She just doesn't come accross too well when she speaks(harsh accent). I love her anyway. :wavey:

Point well taken. I personally think Elena is beautiful, although I also personally think Elena doesn't quite have as universal an appeal as Maria. And like I said in a previous post, she's a wonderful competitor, a steadfast rally player, and one of the classiest post match interviews around (well, until that mysterious Mary Pierce medical timeout in the US Open which left Elena upset).

If she only had a better serve, or at least a better serve toss, she'd win more tournaments.

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 12:05 AM
Anna Kournikova was not a failure. She made it to #8 in singles and #1 in doubles. Her promising career was cut short by numerous injuries to her feet and back. Sure Anna never lived up to her potential and she did underachive as a tennis player. But I can't call her a failure in part becauae she's worth about 100 million dollars and is the most popular female athlete of all time. :D And the name is spelled Kournikova. ;) :(
So what, Britney Spears is worth over 100 million and she is pure filth. No matter how you spell Kournikova's name, it still comes out GUTTER GIRL. The only reason she is popular(with guys only) is because she dresses and acts like a slut most the time. It has nothing to do with her tennis career. She's a complete phoney. That's really stretching it, calling her the most popular female athlete.
She could be worth 1 billion and she's still a failure. Anyone who sues their parents over a house and does sleazy naked photo shoots is trash. How you can defend her in beyond me. She's obnoxious at best. Maria is headed in the same direction. Hopefully someone will straighten her out, before this beautiful young girl ends up like KOURNIKOVA. Maria's parents are a disaster. I can guarentee you this, Maria is going to have alot of trouble when it comes to relationships with guys. She's already spoiled beyond belief.(Globel Girl).

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 12:21 AM
Point well taken. I personally think Elena is beautiful, although I also personally think Elena doesn't quite have as universal an appeal as Maria. And like I said in a previous post, she's a wonderful competitor, a steadfast rally player, and one of the classiest post match interviews around (well, until that mysterious Mary Pierce medical timeout in the US Open which left Elena upset).

If she only had a better serve, or at least a better serve toss, she'd win more tournaments.
If you don't think Elena is that attractive, you need to check out the music video she did this past summer. I don't care for these type of projects, but this was done in somewhat good taste. It shows off her beautiful face and her gorgeous body. No one on the WTA tour comes close to that combination. Plus she's a very nice girl to boot and I have never heard her say anything derrogatory about any of her opponents. Do youself a favor and check out that video. ;)

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Jan 3rd, 2006, 12:43 AM
freedlander... Maria is just simply more marketable... that is it... doesn't mean she is better or worse than Elena...

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 02:09 PM
Off course she is. She lives here in the U.S. and has IMG behind her. To be honest, I like that other girls on the WTA tour haven't gone this route. People are already getting tired of Maria. Martina Navratilova has said Maria has way overdone it, as far as publicity goes. The public with get sick of Maria if she continues on this path. She needs to stick to playing tennis and try to live a more conservative lifestyle. She needs to develope more humility within herself, not more arrogance.

Maria Croft
Jan 3rd, 2006, 02:50 PM
So what, Britney Spears is worth over 100 million and she is pure filth. No matter how you spell Kournikova's name, it still comes out GUTTER GIRL. The only reason she is popular(with guys only) is because she dresses and acts like a slut most the time. It has nothing to do with her tennis career. She's a complete phoney. That's really stretching it, calling her the most popular female athlete.
She could be worth 1 billion and she's still a failure. Anyone who sues their parents over a house and does sleazy naked photo shoots is trash. How you can defend her in beyond me. She's obnoxious at best. Maria is headed in the same direction. Hopefully someone will straighten her out, before this beautiful young girl ends up like KOURNIKOVA. Maria's parents are a disaster. I can guarentee you this, Maria is going to have alot of trouble when it comes to relationships with guys. She's already spoiled beyond belief.(Globel Girl).

All of your creditability has just gone down the drain when you start calling girls you don’t know sluts just because of the way they dress, you know nothing and you have obviously nothing interesting to say

jacobruiz
Jan 3rd, 2006, 03:04 PM
Off course she is. She lives here in the U.S. and has IMG behind her. To be honest, I like that other girls on the WTA tour haven't gone this route. People are already getting tired of Maria. Martina Navratilova has said Maria has way overdone it, as far as publicity goes. The public with get sick of Maria if she continues on this path. She needs to stick to playing tennis and try to live a more conservative lifestyle. She needs to develope more humility within herself, not more arrogance.



fredlander, who exactly are you to say what Maria NEEDS to do with her life?:confused:
And what possible arrogance or lack of integrity has she ever shown? If you read their past interviews you will see that your beloved Elena demonstrates more arrogance than Maria.

Maria is an eighteen year old girl who has worked hard all her life to enjoy the success she is having now - after winning a Grand Slam at 17, (something Elena has yet to accomplish), becoming the first Russian number 1, (she has had a higher ranking than Elena for some time now), winning the YEC, (Elena?), winning 10 titles by the age of 18, etc... These are all reasons why Maria enjoys more marketing success than Elena, not just in the US, but in Europe and Asia as well. I am not trying to put Elena down because I don't feel the need to put down other players in order to make Maria look good - in fact, it's totally unnecessary. Maria spends a minimal amount of time on commercials and photo-shoots and does nothing "trashy".

It's hard for some to see other getting attention you wish your own fave player would get. But hating on Masha for having greater success on and off the tennis court is childish and silly.

And "gutter girl":rolleyes: No one does more for charity now days than Anna Kournikova. Because she is a world-class beauty and celebrity she's bound to get her photo in the papers a lot but she is no "slut" a la Paris Hilton. Anna WORKED for her money and has managed to make a post-competitive tennis career for herself WITHOUT posing naked for men's mags, making sex videos, doing drugs, sleeping with lots of different guys(she's been exclusively with Enrique for years) or other "gutter" type activities. Yeah, without her looks she'd be nowhere, or maybe still playing tennis, but Anna is definately not trash.

Has it ever occured to you that you are very judgemental toward people you don't know and know very little about?

Doc
Jan 3rd, 2006, 04:36 PM
Even the WTA at the 2004 YEC, had a ad showing Maria half naked and saying how hot she is. This was the picture.
http://www.mariaworld.net/scan30.jpg

"Half-naked?" Well maybe in 1897. :rolleyes:

They never mentioned the other 7 talented players that were at that event. Even ESPN does the same thing every time Maria plays. They zoom in on her butt or breasts every time she bends over. One match the shot of the day was Maria's outfit blowing over her head to the jingle 'sexy'. Pretty pathetic that a 18 year old girl is known around the world as a sex kitten. All her parents are interested in is how much money they can make off their underage daughter.
fredlander. You're seeing what you WANT to see. Maria is highlighted in publicity for events because that is what works. People want to see an exciting attractive player. As for ESPN emphasizing Maria as a sex kitten - I've actually seen more of that with Elena, Ivanovic and Pearce. Here's a typical selection of Maria Magazine covers. I think you'll find they tend to concentrate on her face - or her in action.
http://www.mariaworld.net/magazinecoversc.htm

Unfortunately, she seems to think she deserves all this attention, that the world revolves around her. I've seen it all before(Capriatti) and a big fall is usually in the future. Maria is only 18 and she is already arrogant. Like Robert Lansdorf said, people should leave her alone and just let her play tennis.

It seems you are consumed with jealousy for Maria. How is she "arrogant"? How does she behave differently from any other top player? I think you are just jealous because your favourite players haven't earned such a high profile. I'm sure Maria would prefer to go through life with no big press entourage following her about. But she knows that that is impossible.

Really, if you dislike Maria, why are you posting so much in her forum?

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 05:35 PM
First of all, ther are pictures of Kournikova all over the internet naked, one with her on setting on top of her current boyfriend. She's so trashy it's pathetic. You people oviously ignore things you don't want to believe. Anna been around the block with more than a few males. She is a disgusting role model for young people. Unfortunately Maria is headed in the same direction. The video(ad) I was talking about was on the internet for the 2004 YEC championships. IT was very sexual and showed Maria half naked on the court saying how hot she is. No mention of tennis. I've seen pictures of Maria on the internet that were very sexual and in bad taste, like the awful outfit she wore at 2004 Wimbledon. Every time she bent over ,I thought she was going to lose something. She also said nasty stuff about Serena after last years AO loss. You people are as blind as bats. ESPN treats Maria strickly as a sex object, always zooming in on her butt or breasts. They DON'T with other players. Even Chris Everet says Maria reminds her of Kournikova off court. What a degrading comment. I hope for Maria's sake, someone points her in the right direction, before she has a big fall and she will have a big fall if she doesn't change her ways off court, just like Capriatti did.

P.S. Take the blinders off Doc. How about showing that video at 2004 YEC.

Maria Croft
Jan 3rd, 2006, 05:38 PM
First of all, ther are pictures of Kournikova all over the internet naked, one with her on setting on top of her current boyfriend. She's so trashy it's pathetic. You people oviously ignore things you don't want to believe. Anna been around the block with more than a few males. She is a disgusting role model for young people. Unfortunately Maria is headed in the same direction. The ad I was talking about was on the internet for the 2004 YEC championships. IT was very sexual and showed Maria half naked on the court saying how hot she is. No mention of tennis. I've seen pictures of Maria on the internet that were very sexual and in bad taste, like the awful outfit she wore at 2004 Wimbledon. Every time she bent over ,I thought she was going to lose something. She also said nasty stuff about Serena after last years AO loss. You people are as blind as bats. ESPN treats Maria strickly as a sex object, always zooming in on her butt or breasts. They DON'T with other players. Even Chris Everet says Maria reminds her of Kournikova off court. What a degrading comment. I hope for Maria's sake, someone points her in the right direction, before she has a big fall and she will have a big fall if she doesn't change her ways off court, just like Capriatti did.


Look up the word nothing in a dictionary, your name should be behind it…..

jacobruiz
Jan 3rd, 2006, 05:55 PM
fred - I said Anna never POSED naked for mens' mags, it's not her fault the paparazzi follow her everywhere to take pictures of her.

Maria's dress at Wimbledon 2004 was TRASHY?!:haha: OMG!!


You're a sad, bitter little man, fred.:lol:

jacobruiz
Jan 3rd, 2006, 05:59 PM
So what nasty things did Maria say about Serena after the AO, fred?

I say she said nothing nasty, EVER! Since you say she did, PROVE IT!

Give us a quote or a link.

Maria Croft
Jan 3rd, 2006, 06:24 PM
I've read the interview after her loss to Serena, she didn't say anything bad at all

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Jan 3rd, 2006, 07:29 PM
man... I never intended this thread to become this conflictive...

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 08:39 PM
Maria was asked after she lost to Serena, 'What did Serena show you tonight?'
Maria, 'What did she show me, NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING'. And she said it in a nasty manner. That remark was totally uncalled for, especially how Serena has complemented Maria in the past. Maria is only 18, so she can be excused for acting her age, but she needs to learn how to show respect for her opponents and stop making excuses for herself when she loses(that one is really getting old).
Also calling herself Globel girl is being quite conceded. I have nothng personal against this high school girl, but it would be nice to see her show some humility once in a while.

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 08:42 PM
I say she said nothing nasty, EVER!
You live in a dream world.

Dementinator
Jan 3rd, 2006, 08:42 PM
uh oh Fred!! You causing grief over here now are you ,you are really very naughty you know.. :lol:

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 08:43 PM
I've read the interview after her loss to Serena, she didn't say anything bad at all
Read it again, this time with your eyes open.

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 08:45 PM
uh oh Fred!! You causing grief over here now are you ,you are really very naughty you know.. :lol:
Hey you, get out of here. This is a different Fred, I was cloned. :lol:

Dementinator
Jan 3rd, 2006, 08:47 PM
Iam going dont worry ,before someone gets hurt! :eek: what a thread!

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 08:52 PM
fred - I said Anna never POSED naked for mens' mags, it's not her fault the paparazzi follow her everywhere to take pictures of her.

Maria's dress at Wimbledon 2004 was TRASHY?!:haha: OMG!!


You're a sad, bitter little man, fred.:lol:
Kournikova needs to keep her clothes on in public. Very vulgar.
Maria's dress was in bad taste. Notice she never wears anything like that anymore. The Star in England got some close up pictures of her breasts(inside her dress) and posted them all over the internet. I presume that's why she plays fully clothe now.

jacobruiz
Jan 3rd, 2006, 09:06 PM
Nothing you have said gives any credence to your insulting criticisms of Maria.

But not to worry - no one is getting upset in this thread.

WE'RE LAUGHING AT YOU - YOU SAD, BITTER LITTLE MAN!!:lol: :wavey:

fredlander
Jan 3rd, 2006, 09:21 PM
Goodbye, You people wouldn't admit the truth about anything unless it reinforced you fantacies. Maybe all of you will grow up someday. That goes for Maria too.
Sorry Duiz, didn't mean to upset you.

Maria Croft
Jan 3rd, 2006, 09:28 PM
Goodbye, You people wouldn't admit the truth about anything unless it reinforced you fantacies. Maybe all of you will grow up someday. That goes for Maria too.
Sorry Duiz, didn't mean to upset you.


Oh please don't leave us.....

:lol: :tape:

Andy Mac
Jan 3rd, 2006, 10:36 PM
Goodbye, You people wouldn't admit the truth about anything unless it reinforced you fantacies. Maybe all of you will grow up someday. That goes for Maria too.
Sorry Duiz, didn't mean to upset you.
why are you in here again? in a forum for maria fans?

xan
Jan 4th, 2006, 01:17 AM
The video(ad) I was talking about was on the internet for the 2004 YEC championships. IT was very sexual and showed Maria half naked on the court saying how hot she is. This sounds like an invention of your addled obsessive mind. Produce this "video" or stop telling lies.

I've seen pictures of Maria on the internet that were very sexual and in bad taste, like the awful outfit she wore at 2004 Wimbledon. .

http://www.mariaworld.net/wimbledon04200.jpg

My my! You mean this one? :tape: :lol:

Whatever you do, don't watch athletics - or swimming! :eek:

Andy Mac
Jan 4th, 2006, 01:25 AM
iloved that dress..

Dan23
Jan 4th, 2006, 01:56 AM
fred still at it? :yawn: