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pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Hong Kong Ladies Challenge
Seeds: 1 - 8
Surface: Hardcourt Outdoors

http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/eng/players/images/top_lindsay.jpg
http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/eng/players/images/top_kim.jpg
http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/eng/players/images/top_elene.jpg
http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/eng/players/images/top_venus.jpg
http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/eng/players/images/top_serena.jpg
http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/eng/players/images/top_nicole.jpg
http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/eng/players/images/top_sania.jpg
http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/eng/players/images/top_zheng.jpg

SINGLES DRAW

(1) Davenport vs. (6) Vaidisova or (7) Mirza
(2) Clijsters vs. (8) Zheng
(3) Dementieva vs. (5) S Williams
(4) V Williams vs. (6) Vaidisova or (7) Mirza

Winners will advance to SF. Losers will compete in consolation draw.

DOUBLES DRAW

V Williams / S Williams vs. Clijsters / Mirza
? / ? vs. ? / ?

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Hong Kong tournament organizers :help: :help: :help: (aren't you Chinese?)
Jie should be listed as Jie Zheng instead of Zheng Jie :tape: :tape: :tape:

Maryamator
Dec 5th, 2005, 05:41 PM
hope serena doesnt pull out

davidmario
Dec 5th, 2005, 05:49 PM
Hong Kong tournament organizers :help: :help: :help: (aren't you Chinese?)
Jie should be listed as Jie Zheng instead of Zheng Jie :tape: :tape: :tape:
huh? I thought that like this it is right. isn't JIE her first name?

pancake
Dec 5th, 2005, 05:51 PM
If I remember it right,the first match will be S.Williams vs E.Dementieva.

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 05:54 PM
If I remember it right,the first match will be S.Williams vs E.Dementieva.

:eek: Has this been announced already? :eek:

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 05:55 PM
Actually her surname is Zheng and clearly the organisers are Chinese becuase they got that right :lol:

Her last name is Zheng. So if they are going to list Kim Clijsters and Venus Williams, then they should have listed Jie Zheng ;)

pancake
Dec 5th, 2005, 05:58 PM
:eek: Has this been announced already? :eek:
I heared it from the night news.

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:10 PM
I heared it from the night news.

:eek: Elena D vs. Serena :bolt:

pancake
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:15 PM
:eek: Elena D vs. Serena :bolt:
莎蓮娜威廉斯對杰緬佳娃,I hope I am not mistaken.

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:17 PM
莎蓮娜威廉斯對杰緬佳娃,I hope I am not mistaken.

I think you are right. Do you know what the other first round matches are? :confused:

pancake
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:30 PM
I think you are right. Do you know what the other first round matches are? :confused:
I am so sorry that I don't know.They have just mentioned about the opening match.
But I heard that they will play on a QF basis(my Eng. sucks),and then the 4 winners will play in a group whereas the others 4 will play in another group.

Denise4925
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:37 PM
I am so sorry that I don't know.They have just mentioned about the opening match.
But I heard that they will play on a QF basis(my Eng. sucks),and then the 4 winners will play in a group whereas the others 4 will play in another group.
I think you're doing a good job with your english, pancake. :yeah:

vwfan
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:40 PM
:eek: Elena D vs. Serena :bolt:
blowout! Serena will eat Elena's serves alive. Remember Miami 2003 or 4?

pancake
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:40 PM
I think you're doing a good job with your english, pancake. :yeah:

Thanks:kiss:You are such a nice guy!

LeRoy.
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:41 PM
great for Serena. I think Elena D. is intimidated by Serena.

I just hope all the players show up :bounce: Should be fun :woohoo:

TomTennis
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:43 PM
blowout! Serena will eat Elena's serves alive. Remember Miami 2003 or 4?

2004. It was the final. And yes i remeber. Serena won 6-1 6-1! :worship:

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:44 PM
I am so sorry that I don't know.They have just mentioned about the opening match.
But I heard that they will play on a QF basis(my Eng. sucks),and then the 4 winners will play in a group whereas the others 4 will play in another group.

Why are they bothering with a consolation bracket :mad:

pancake
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:49 PM
Why are they bothering with a consolation bracket :mad:
Probably because there will be more matches,and then more tickets could be sold.
g2g now:wavey:,hope that I could provide some news of this event later.

Denise4925
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Thanks:kiss:You are such a nice guy!
Girl ;)

pinkfrog
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:53 PM
can someone post a link to the webiste, i cant find it...thanks :wavey:

Denise4925
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:54 PM
I'm so behind in tennis. Does it start today?

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:57 PM
I'm so behind in tennis. Does it start today?

No it starts January 4th but the players and draw have been determined

Denise4925
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:02 PM
No it starts January 4th but the players and draw have been determined
Okay, thanks. :)

borisy
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:03 PM
I can't wait to bump the ElenaD is the real No.1 thread :lol:

LeRoy.
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:04 PM
Also Kim/Sania will play the Williams sisters in a doubles match :woohoo:

Denise4925
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:05 PM
Also Kim/Sania will play the Williams sisters in a doubles match :woohoo:
Really?? I'm just glad Vee and Rena are playing doubles again.

new-york
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:19 PM
that should be really interesting. the williams as a double team, kim and sania....and Venus playin sania or nicole. i just can't wait for everything to happen...i'm so lookin for tennis action.

willrock
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:20 PM
What is the point of this "exhibition"?
It looks like a real tournament! (except without Wta points... probably with so many $ to win :tape: )
Is it a training or will the girls really do their best?
I find it weird!

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:25 PM
What is the point of this "exhibition"?
It looks like a real tournament! (except without Wta points... probably with so many $ to win :tape: )
Is it a training or will the girls really do their best?
I find it weird!

Um the point of this exhibition is to win $ and the adoration of Hong Kong fans
Lena D beat Venus last year to win and past winners have included Jelena Dokic and Jennifer Capriati I think

Andrew..
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Why is #1 playing #2 in the semifinals.

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:29 PM
Why is #1 playing #2 in the semifinals.

That is not the actual draw. Just the 1R match-ups
The winners will advance to SF but I am not sure whether Venus or Elena D is in Lindsay's half

Andrew..
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:30 PM
Thanks.

bellascarlett
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:31 PM
SINGLES DRAW

(1) Davenport vs. (6) Vaidisova or (7) Mirza
(2) Clijsters vs. (8) Zheng
(3) Dementieva vs. (5) S Williams
(4) V Williams vs. (6) Vaidisova or (7) Mirza

Winners will advance to SF. Losers will compete in consolation draw.

DOUBLES DRAW

V Williams / S Williams vs. Clijsters / Mirza
? / ? vs. ? / ?


Where did you get this?

willrock
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:32 PM
Um the point of this exhibition is to win $ and the adoration of Hong Kong fans
Lena D beat Venus last year to win and past winners have included Jelena Dokic and Jennifer Capriati I think

Yeah dollars it seems..
I think it's a shame as it builds a parallel circuit next to the Wta.
Ladies are supposed to rest at the moment!!!
They claim that the season is too long but play in December for dollars... :rolleyes:

santhuruu
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:43 PM
I'm sooo excited
I hope Serena is going to kick some but out there
Serena is hopefully going to demolish dementieva's serve:D

Penglover
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:44 PM
jie is going to kick some arses :bigclap: :rocker2:

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:45 PM
Where did you get this?

Kim posted on her website that she is facing Jie and the doubles matchup
pancake said the Elena D / Serena matchup has been announced in Hong Kong

So I used deductive reasoning to make the rest of the draw ;)

Dexter
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:49 PM
I'm sooo excited
I hope Serena is going to kick some but out there
Serena is hopefully going to demolish dementieva's serve:DHopefully it won't happen :p

Удачи Елена :bounce:

New
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:56 PM
I wonder who Zheng partners!!:bounce:

Go Zheng!!:hearts: :kiss:

Ellery
Dec 5th, 2005, 07:57 PM
I hope Jie plays with Lindsay :D

nicky
Dec 5th, 2005, 08:10 PM
Yeah dollars it seems..
I think it's a shame as it builds a parallel circuit next to the Wta.
Ladies are supposed to rest at the moment!!!
They claim that the season is too long but play in December for dollars... :rolleyes:

They will not play in december. The tournament starts in january , and the girls use it as a warm up for the AO. They may play for the dollars, but also the fact that they play in a sort of round robin ensures them they will play 3 matches, win or lose. Combined with the fact that it is a demonstration, some girls might prefer this sort of warm up, it doesn't put too much pressure on them right from the start of the season. :)

pierce0415
Dec 5th, 2005, 11:18 PM
I hope Jie plays with Lindsay :D

Somehow I can't imagine Lindsay partnering with Jie, Nicole or Elena D but I guess she will partner with one of them

IceHock
Dec 5th, 2005, 11:39 PM
ive got 10 bucks that serena doesnt demolish elena d
1)serve has improved more leg bend not as many doubles
2)serena hasnt played a pro match since us open ????
this match will go to 3 sets not sure wholl win

martinafan
Dec 6th, 2005, 01:47 AM
well since the draw is done, i guess that martina will be playing at the gold coast :o :bounce:

Good Luck to Jie in Hong Kong btw ;)

Knizzle
Dec 6th, 2005, 01:56 AM
Thanks:kiss:You are such a nice guy!

:haha:

No Name Face
Dec 6th, 2005, 01:59 AM
ugh...figures my two ultimate favorites would draw each other in the first round.

i don't know who to root for as well...serena coming back or elena finally winning over the best player of this generation.

:sad:

No Name Face
Dec 6th, 2005, 02:01 AM
Somehow I can't imagine Lindsay partnering with Jie, Nicole or Elena D but I guess she will partner with one of them

i could see elena partnering with jie.

probably not lindsay..their styles are too similar, although they might because they obviously like each other.

maybe vaidisova...

Knizzle
Dec 6th, 2005, 02:12 AM
Well Serena or Venus will be taking revenge on ED for last year.

No Name Face
Dec 6th, 2005, 02:14 AM
Well Serena or Venus will be taking revenge on ED for last year.

:lol:

yeah, elena manages to win the EXHIBITION against sharapova and venus, but doesn't win a WTA title in the whole year :retard:

Paneru
Dec 6th, 2005, 03:11 AM
Um the point of this exhibition is to win $ and the adoration of Hong Kong fans
Lena D beat Venus last year to win and past winners have included Jelena Dokic and Jennifer Capriati I think

Slight Correction: Past Winners

01' Jelena Dokic def. Anna Kournikova
02' Jennifer Capriati def. Elena Dementieva
03' Monica Seles def. Chanda Rubin
04' Venus Williams def. Maria Sharapova
05' Elena Dementieva def. Venus Williams


Left out Monica & Venus. ;)

Paneru
Dec 6th, 2005, 03:17 AM
ive got 10 bucks that serena doesnt demolish elena d
1)serve has improved more leg bend not as many doubles
2)serena hasnt played a pro match since us open ????
this match will go to 3 sets not sure wholl win

1. Her new serve will hurt her against
Serena even more as it did against Venus
the last time they played during Fed Cup.

Why?

Beforehand when Elena served just about everything
went to the forehand which is the shot that troubles
both sisters went a bit off.

Now, she doesn't soley go to that forehand which
did seem better for Venus against her and especially
on the red clay.


2. Serena is more capable than anyone on tour
to come right back and still be able to beat
some easily. Especially Dementieva whom she owns.

ED's speech in Miami in 04' after she lost
1 & 1 to Serena said it all.

I don't think it will be a total blow out but i don't
expect Serena to drop a set or more than 8 games max.


Now, let's see what happens! :lol:

pancake
Dec 6th, 2005, 05:29 AM
Correction: Past Winners

03' Monica Seles def. Chanda Rubin
04' Venus Williams def. Maria Sharapova
05' Elena Dementieva def. Venus Williams
Jennifer Capriati is also one of the past winner...maybe 01 or 02?

Seyz
Dec 6th, 2005, 05:40 AM
Jesus, the lineup for the "exhibition" is only second to a grandslam.

Seyz
Dec 6th, 2005, 05:40 AM
It's definitely better than the WTA Championships that's for sure.

Blonde_Ambition7
Dec 6th, 2005, 05:52 AM
why must elena play serena!?

No Name Face
Dec 6th, 2005, 05:56 AM
ED's speech in Miami in 04' after she lost
1 & 1 to Serena said it all.

I don't think it will be a total blow out but i don't
expect Serena to drop a set or more than 8 games max.



what did she say in that speech?

and i agree with your prediction...

rjd1111
Dec 6th, 2005, 06:05 AM
hope serena doesnt pull out

\
When is this taking place?

October
Dec 6th, 2005, 06:39 AM
Slight Correction: Past Winners

01' Jelena Dokic def. Anna Kournikova
02' Jennifer Capriati def. Elena Dementieva
03' Monica Seles def. Chanda Rubin
04' Venus Williams def. Maria Sharapova
05' Elena Dementieva def. Venus Williams


Left out Monica & Venus. ;)


Well if Elena had defeated Venus in 2005, then she definately is a strong contender against Serena.

Prizeidiot
Dec 6th, 2005, 06:54 AM
I'm not so sure Elena's serve will be destroyed by Serena. Does anyone remember HK last year? Elena served extremely well. It's an exhibition, with no pressure at all. Technically, her serve is fine, it's only when she has something significant to play for that it fails.

I think it's a good chance for her to try and gain some sort of confidence against Serena in a no pressure situation, because at the moment, Serena is completely in her head. Like last year in the YEC, Serena was crippled and still didn't lose a set to Elena.