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SJW
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:38 PM
Tracy Austin on Hingis return

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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif By Tracy Austin
BBC Sport tennis pundit and former world number one
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It's wonderful news for women's tennis that Martina Hingis wants to make a full return to the circuit next year.

A star with as much charisma and style as her can only be good for the sport.

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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/img/v3/end_quote.gif The biggest question is will her game stand up to the power play that dominates the women's game http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/img/v3/end_quote.gif




Martina wants to come back and play and, of course, there will be critics who will try and knock her down. But I would urge people to be supportive.

She was a wonderful champion and has nothing to prove. She is not coming back for money or to make her place in tennis history - she's already done that.

Martina is coming back because she still wants to compete - that urge to get out and compete on the court is not out of her system yet.

Physically, and in terms of her ankle injury, I think she will be fine.

And technically, she will have no problems at all. She can volley extremely well, has great anticipation and there is so much flair to her game.

She is also a great strategist, who moves the ball around and out-manoeuvres her opponents.

But the big question is whether her game can stand up to the power play that dominates the women's tour.

When Martina dominated, it was a very different game. Now, the top players are either hitting aces every game or big, unreturnable serves.

She just doesn't have that in her repertoire, so it will be interesting to see how her style of play matches up to that of Justine Henin-Hardenne, Kim Clijsters and Maria Sharapova.

Yet I still think this is a very good time for her to come out of retirement.

No-one is dominating the women's game right now. Henin-Hardenne, Clijsters and the Williams sisters have had injuries and Lindsay Davenport has not made any tournament commitments beyond March.

Because there are no strong figures at the top Martina might just see an opportunity.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41075000/jpg/_41075640_austin_203x270.jpg Austin was just 19 when she won her second US Open in 1981



Like Martina, I was successful as a teenager, but at the age of 21 got injured and was unable to play again until I was 25.

Then I was involved in a car accident that took me out for another couple of years before I officially retired in 1994.

I can understand an athlete wanting to hang up their sport and stop when they just don't feel like playing any more.

Bjorn Bjorg retired when he was just 25 and Gabriela Sabatini when she was 26. But Martina still feels she has the competitive juices flowing and wants to take on that challenge. As an athlete I think she's doing the right thing. Before you retire for good you have to feel you've really finished.

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i love how she always talks about her career in her column LOL.
anyway i think it's a bit too early for Martina to be seeing opportunities at the top Tracy :rolleyes: only a fool would expect her to walk straight back into the top 10.

Mother_Marjorie
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:42 PM
Its great news to hear that Martina is coming back full-time. What impact she will make will largely depend on her physical fitness and her ability to grind-it-out with the top ten.

hablo
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:42 PM
at least it's positive article :D

thelittlestelf
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:42 PM
Tracy and Martina's careers are kind of scarily similar... but please. I will not buy that Martina is coming back ONLY for her urge to compete; she wants to win. As much as she loves tennis, Martina would not be coming back unless she thought that she could become a force in tennis once again.

JulesVerne
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:42 PM
A very good article by Tracy Austin. Have always liked her commentaries for the BBC and feels that she knows a lot about tennis.

Tracy :hearts:

switz
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:44 PM
:lol: people really dislike Tracey Austin on this board.

dav abu
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:45 PM
nice one Tracy-she is a star as always.

marmite1
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:45 PM
Whenever tracy is commentating my mum says "God, its that annoying american woman again" :lol: :tape:

SelesFan70
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:46 PM
:bowdown: Tracy

JulesVerne
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Whenever tracy is commentating my mum says "God, its that annoying american woman again" :lol: :tape:
:devil: :devil: :devil:

dinhd82
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:49 PM
I love Tracy's personal tribute to herself!

JulesVerne
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:50 PM
:lol: people really dislike Tracey Austin on this board.

Why do they dislike her. She was really unlucky with her own tennis career plagued by misfortune as stated in the article; injury and car accident. :mad:

No Name Face
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:53 PM
I love Tracy's personal tribute to herself!

:lol:

it's not like anyone else cares about what she accomplished.

Andy T
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:57 PM
She's such a me-girl.

Rocketta
Nov 30th, 2005, 10:20 PM
Martina wants to come back and play and, of course, there will be critics who will try and knock her down. But I would urge people to be supportive.

She was a wonderful champion and has nothing to prove. She is not coming back for money or to make her place in tennis history - she's already done that.

hmmm, will Tracy take her own advice when certain other players are playing and remember they have nothing to prove and to be supportive? :scratch:

selestribe
Nov 30th, 2005, 10:22 PM
:worship: TRACY :worship:

manu
Nov 30th, 2005, 10:29 PM
I don't really see what's so egocentric about her article... It's all right to make a little comparison, especially when there ARE similarities, isn't it?

alfajeffster
Nov 30th, 2005, 10:51 PM
Why do they dislike her. She was really unlucky with her own tennis career plagued by misfortune as stated in the article; injury and car accident. :mad:

Most people here have their favorite players, and it's a direct reflection of their personal extremes for Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova, largely because Tracy Austin was beating their favorite between 1979-1981. That, coupled with her naturally squeaky-clean persona (I've met her, picked her up at the airport, dropped her off at the hotel for an exhibition, and even went shopping with her- she really is just a nice girl from a functional family), and for some, the mere fact that she is American is enough to ooze hatred toward her. Of course, it also doesn't help that her voice sounds like someone squeezing a cupie doll too hard.

I think she's spot-on in her assessment of Hingis' comeback, although I'm not so sure she didn't get quite a bit of editorial help with the article. She has, over the years, not displayed the greatest level of knowledge about the players that pre-date her.

switz
Nov 30th, 2005, 10:57 PM
Why do they dislike her. She was really unlucky with her own tennis career plagued by misfortune as stated in the article; injury and car accident. :mad:

i think it's purely because of commentating where people think she is excessively supportive of Sharapova and not very pro Williams.

kiwifan
Nov 30th, 2005, 10:57 PM
I love Tracy's personal tribute to herself!

:worship: :worship: :worship:

alfajeffster
Nov 30th, 2005, 11:01 PM
i think it's purely because of commentating where people think she is excessively supportive of Sharapova and not very pro Williams.

She is the epitome of the high school cheerleader that Serena Williams would've pounded against the locker after gym class, provided, of course, they attended the same school.

thrust
Nov 30th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Excellent article by Tracy who knows much more about tennis than anyone here, espeically the ignorant haters.

bellascarlett
Nov 30th, 2005, 11:24 PM
i think it's purely because of commentating where people think she is excessively supportive of Sharapova and not very pro Williams.

I think so too. Same situation for most of the other former players who are now commentators i.e. Carillo and Fernandez.

Stamp Paid
Nov 30th, 2005, 11:35 PM
She behaved @ the USO this year. Well, with Serena. Maybe not with Venus in her matches.

Andrew..
Nov 30th, 2005, 11:43 PM
Tracy :bowdown:

spartanfan
Dec 1st, 2005, 12:03 AM
I find it a fairly poor article, seeing as Tracy never addressed the issues that Martina had when she was still playing, and not injured. Like how she was being dominated by the top power players and her serve (second) was a joke. And unless Martina has solved those two issues, I see her as a top 20 player at best, and that's not where Hingis wants to be.

AkademiQ
Dec 1st, 2005, 01:00 AM
I think so too. Same situation for most of the other former players who are now commentators i.e. Carillo and Fernandez.

The shame really is in the judgment thrown at fans by some just because they aren't jumping for joy that their faves get constant criticism from the aforementioned commentators. Why are the fans of players such as Hingis in this case or Sharapova okay for applauding the commentators just because the word on their favorite happens to be positive?

Further shame that the people who don't fail to get on fans who dislike commentary by Carillo or Austin, don't see a mirror looking right at them when they make posts such as the one above.

Rub
Dec 1st, 2005, 01:43 AM
martina!!!!!!!

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 1st, 2005, 02:09 AM
hmmm, will Tracy take her own advice when certain other players are playing and remember they have nothing to prove and to be supportive? :scratch:

I've always felt Tracy was a very good commentator. She's not perfect, but she's very insightful :)

bellascarlett
Dec 1st, 2005, 02:17 AM
The shame really is in the judgment thrown at fans by some just because they aren't jumping for joy that their faves get constant criticism from the aforementioned commentators. Why are the fans of players such as Hingis in this case or Sharapova okay for applauding the commentators just because the word on their favorite happens to be positive?

Further shame that the people who don't fail to get on fans who dislike commentary by Carillo or Austin, don't see a mirror looking right at them when they make posts such as the one above.

I simply agreed with someone about his/her reason for why some may not find commentators like Carillo and Austin pleasant. Nothing more. Do I find anything wrong with the way they perceive these commentators? No, I find that it is perfectly understandable. As for me, given that they generally have favorable views of my fave, it is also perfectly understandable that I have no reason to dislike them.

switz
Dec 1st, 2005, 02:25 AM
The shame really is in the judgment thrown at fans by some just because they aren't jumping for joy that their faves get constant criticism from the aforementioned commentators. Why are the fans of players such as Hingis in this case or Sharapova okay for applauding the commentators just because the word on their favorite happens to be positive?

Further shame that the people who don't fail to get on fans who dislike commentary by Carillo or Austin, don't see a mirror looking right at them when they make posts such as the one above.

i don't know if you were talking generally or about me but i wasn't making any comment about those feelings - i was just saying they existed.

Dolpho
Dec 1st, 2005, 04:16 AM
Tracy :worship: :worship: Hingis:bounce: :bounce:

~ The Leopard ~
Dec 1st, 2005, 04:52 AM
I think it's reasonable for Tracy to make this sort of comparison, in the circumstances. Mind you, if she blathers about her own achievements like this all the time (which she may or may not do, for all I know) it could get on people's nerves.

Instant_Replay
Dec 1st, 2005, 05:59 AM
I don't think Hingis doesn't not have anything to prove because she left at a young age and she's not exactly Graf or Navratilova record calibre, plus she's never won the french open, so I don't think she doesn't not have anything to prove. First, I think Martina being no. 1 (and sometimes it was too overextended) shouldn't have been that long or maybe even happened at all because '97 was the year Graf was out, Seles was not fit and not herself, Davenport wasn't as fit and fast, and the tour wasn't as well-rounded. If Graf wasn't injured, I think Martina wouldn't have had that lucky '97 and her ego wouldn't have swelled up. Maybe she even would have won only 1 or 2 slams, but history happened already.
Sure, she loves to compete, but I don't think she will be able to withstand not just the power, but many of the women are well rounded and yes, have power, but also finesse, net game, fitness, etc. Not just power. But this well-roundedness of the tour will not give Martina a chance. It would be nice to see her in doubles though, maybe a big combo team of her and Anna K.

Zauber
Dec 1st, 2005, 06:42 AM
Martina Hingis was as good as anyone.
she almost (should have won the grand slam) twice.
first one lost Rolland Garros to Iva Majoli. (i think her overconfidence hurt her tha time)
second one she was winning against Steffi Graf until she did something stupid and got boood off the court)

Instant_Replay
Dec 1st, 2005, 06:47 AM
Martina is good, but not the best. About winning the grand slam in one year, it goes back to what I was saying about 1997. And a true champion doesn't allow Iva Majoli's determination or someone's comeback (Graf should have won anyway) + booing crowd let it bother them and their game.

Rocketta
Dec 1st, 2005, 07:30 AM
I've always felt Tracy was a very good commentator. She's not perfect, but she's very insightful :)

great for you...I've always felt otherwise. :)

Knizzle
Dec 1st, 2005, 07:44 AM
Martina is good, but not the best. About winning the grand slam in one year, it goes back to what I was saying about 1997. And a true champion doesn't allow Iva Majoli's determination or someone's comeback (Graf should have won anyway) + booing crowd let it bother them and their game.

I guess Serena is not a true champion either then?? We all know Serena is and even she let the crowd get to her once.

LH2HBH
Dec 1st, 2005, 08:58 AM
I love Tracy's personal tribute to herself!

With Tracey there is ALWAYS an underlying tribute to herself! :eek:

dinhd82
Dec 1st, 2005, 09:04 AM
Martina is good, but not the best. About winning the grand slam in one year, it goes back to what I was saying about 1997. And a true champion doesn't allow Iva Majoli's determination or someone's comeback (Graf should have won anyway) + booing crowd let it bother them and their game.

That is unfair to say, Martina N. failed to achieve the Grand Slam because of some gutsy play from her country woman Sukova, while Martina was on like a 74 match winning streak, and she is considered a true champion, if not the best!

Hingie
Dec 1st, 2005, 09:11 AM
I'm really sick of this talk about Martina's reign at number 1 and whether it was justified.

The fact of the matter is that the rankings system IS based on consistency and whether people want to acknowledge it or not, if a player is making the semis and finals week in week out, then quite frankly they deserve to be there.

Not like the latest crop of players who seem to pick and choose what they will play and what they will not. Martina is a great ambassador for tennis and has an extraordinary game!

Can't wait for her comeback.

dinhd82
Dec 1st, 2005, 09:43 AM
so true! that is like saying Graf was only dominant because there was nobody good those days, bunch of patty cake tennis players.

harloo
Dec 1st, 2005, 02:55 PM
Tracy is not saying anything new. However Hingis does have something to prove because otherwise she wouldn't be coming back. Hasn't Martina admitted that she would never be content coming back and not being in the top group of players?

Hingis return is welcomed but let's not act like it won't be tough for her because it will. This is no longer the time where her on court gile, strategy, and finesse alone will cut it. I keep saying that she has to get physically stronger and add more power to some of her shots. It can be done but the question remains is she ready for true change? We will see.

:worship:

serenafan08
Dec 1st, 2005, 03:24 PM
Nice article from Tracy. :yeah:

SelesFan70
Dec 1st, 2005, 03:27 PM
Excellent article by Tracy who knows much more about tennis than anyone here, espeically the ignorant haters.

:worship: