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pierce0415
Nov 30th, 2005, 06:40 PM
So, Marina Hingis is coming back. Will this go the way of Bjorn Borg's ill-fated comeback attempt? I'll never forget the spectacle of watching Serena Williams obliterate Hingis at the U.S. Open a few years ago. Surely the power game has left Hingis in the dust?
-- Dominic Ciafardini, New York City

Well, a dull week for tennis fans got a jolt yesterday with the announcement that Hingis was making a return. Lots of questions followed, most asking the same basic question: Does the Chuckster still have game? I called her people to get some more info. She's training in Florida and it looks like her mother, Melanie Molitor, will again coach her. Since her protected ranking has elapsed, it looks like she'll need to rely on wild cards for a while. Other than that, the details were sketchy.

As comeback announcements go, this wasn't a complete shock. Hingis, of course, played that small event in Thailand last year, which had all the earmarks of "I'm putting my toe back in the water as far away from their cameras as possible." She then played World Team Tennis -- with encouraging results -- and has played a number of exhibitions. The two outstanding questions: 1) Can her body hold up? And 2) Has she added any firepower to a game that, for the last few years, was akin to bringing a stiletto to a gun fight?

How do I see this playing out? Certainly more successfully than Borg's comeback. Hingis, to her credit, did enough prep work to get a sense of whether she's truly ready to rejoin the circus. She wouldn't be doing this if her feet weren't up to it. And remember that she is still only 25. Does she have the answer to the weaponry of a Sharapova, Clijsters, Pierce, Davenport or even Henin-Hardenne, who may be like-sized but has such superior racket speed? Probably not.

But on tactics and consistency alone, Hingis should win her share of matches. She will be a force on clay. She should benefit from the injury-mania that ravages every WTA draw these days. And, in the process, she gives the Tour one more bona fide star to showcase. Bottom line: I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for her to add to her stash of Grand Slam trophies. But it's awfully nice to have her back in the cast.

hablo
Nov 30th, 2005, 06:43 PM
well he's not as negative as some other press stuff I've read (in french :tape: ) :bounce:

Steve-o
Nov 30th, 2005, 06:53 PM
I don't like this guy one bit :boxing:

If Martina can get somewhere near her best, then of course she can compete. :)

crazillo
Nov 30th, 2005, 06:56 PM
I actually must admit that I agree in some way with him, scary.....

AsGoodAsNew
Nov 30th, 2005, 06:57 PM
Martina will compete. It's in her blood. I can't wait and will go to any tournament I can she is playing. Go for it Martina! So what if Marti doesn't win another slam? Just to se her back! To see her play! I'll be there anyway!

Andy T
Nov 30th, 2005, 07:08 PM
citing Werthog: "She will be a force on clay".

And I'd be so thrilled if she could add Roland Garros to complete her collection of GS singles titles. I'm sure that alone would make her comeback worthwhile.

Knizzle
Nov 30th, 2005, 07:11 PM
My opinion is that she must have something up her sleeve or she wouldn't bother to come back and embarrass herself.

hablo
Nov 30th, 2005, 07:12 PM
My opinion is that she must have something up her sleeve or she wouldn't bother to come back and embarrass herself.
I hope you're right :bounce:

SilK
Nov 30th, 2005, 07:15 PM
We'll just have to wait and see how this works out for Hingis.

No matter if she wins or loses... I don't care, for me she's the hero of 2006! :yeah:

Geisha
Nov 30th, 2005, 07:37 PM
I think Martina has a better chance now, then she would have had in 2003.

To tell you the truth, watching matches of past years, 2005 seemed "weak" compared to the way Serena and Venus hit in '03.

*JR*
Nov 30th, 2005, 08:10 PM
I hope you're right :bounce:
If she faces Momo in Oz, and isn't nearly the same player she once was, Amelie can call her "half a player". :o

Stamp Paid
Nov 30th, 2005, 08:17 PM
a stiletto to a gun fight, ROTF. Sometimes he be funny. :p

hablo
Nov 30th, 2005, 08:19 PM
If she faces Momo in Oz, and isn't nearly the same player she once was, Amelie can call her "half a player". :o
but I don't think Momo holds such grudges (but I could be mistaken :tape: ) :lol::devil:

kosmikgroove
Nov 30th, 2005, 08:28 PM
My opinion is that she must have something up her sleeve or she wouldn't bother to come back and embarrass herself.

Steroids?

I joke! I joke!!!

Martina will be a welcome addition to the game, and as past GS winners like LLeyton Hewitt and Myskina have shown, you can still be a counter-puncher and win tournaments!

JulesVerne
Nov 30th, 2005, 08:37 PM
If she faces Momo in Oz, and isn't nearly the same player she once was, Amelie can call her "half a player". :o

It is up to Martina not to give her the opportunity by winning any such match.

jenny161185
Nov 30th, 2005, 09:33 PM
I just hope Martine doesnt suffer a few very bad losses that put her off

bellascarlett
Nov 30th, 2005, 10:09 PM
My opinion is that she must have something up her sleeve or she wouldn't bother to come back and embarrass herself.

For someone like Martina who has accomplished and earned more than enough, common sense would somehow dictate this. Also, after that first round loss this year, I doubt that she would enter into this decision lightly. But no one can really be sure of her intentions and motivations until one sees her out in the tour itself. I think Wertheim gives a fairly realistic perspective though. However, Hingis is Hingis. If she works hard and proves to be very determined in sticking it out this time, I think her talent will carry her to a respectable position in the end.

GogoGirl
Dec 1st, 2005, 12:04 AM
All,

I see what's his name forgot to mention the two other grand slam winners of 2005 as it pertains to competition for Martina in 2006. Them Williams' ladies would love to see her back. I'm sure they missed her - and are really happy for her - if she is happy.

And remember when I had Martina as a roving reporter at the FO this year? I had Serena asking her when she was coming back like Jimmy Mack? LOL! And I had Martina thinking to herself after her interview w/Serena - "I don't know", as it pertained to Serena's chances at the French - and then she didn't even play.

If there is one player that can get those Sisters ready like Freddie - it is Martina - and w/Jennifer as a close second - IME.

Rub
Dec 1st, 2005, 12:40 AM
that's a nice thing to say!

Oriental_Rain
Dec 1st, 2005, 02:57 AM
I hope she do well. Shes a great champion

fammmmedspin
Dec 1st, 2005, 03:19 AM
So, Marina Hingis is coming back. Will this go the way of Bjorn Borg's ill-fated comeback attempt? I'll never forget the spectacle of watching Serena Williams obliterate Hingis at the U.S. Open a few years ago. Surely the power game has left Hingis in the dust?
-- Dominic Ciafardini, New York City

Well, a dull week for tennis fans got a jolt yesterday with the announcement that Hingis was making a return. Lots of questions followed, most asking the same basic question: Does the Chuckster still have game? I called her people to get some more info. She's training in Florida and it looks like her mother, Melanie Molitor, will again coach her. Since her protected ranking has elapsed, it looks like she'll need to rely on wild cards for a while. Other than that, the details were sketchy.

As comeback announcements go, this wasn't a complete shock. Hingis, of course, played that small event in Thailand last year, which had all the earmarks of "I'm putting my toe back in the water as far away from their cameras as possible." She then played World Team Tennis -- with encouraging results -- and has played a number of exhibitions. The two outstanding questions: 1) Can her body hold up? And 2) Has she added any firepower to a game that, for the last few years, was akin to bringing a stiletto to a gun fight?

How do I see this playing out? Certainly more successfully than Borg's comeback. Hingis, to her credit, did enough prep work to get a sense of whether she's truly ready to rejoin the circus. She wouldn't be doing this if her feet weren't up to it. And remember that she is still only 25. Does she have the answer to the weaponry of a Sharapova, Clijsters, Pierce, Davenport or even Henin-Hardenne, who may be like-sized but has such superior racket speed? Probably not.

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Does he ever think what he is writing? The point about those players is that Justine's virus can be just as devastating to her chances as Martina's foot was to hers, Mary and Lindsay are dominating the tour in their thirties (or almost there) but won't be around much longer and are not playing much , if at all , better than they did in 1999- 2000. That leaves Kim who looks very good when she plays well but who still didn't take home 2 2005 GS and 1 YEC trophies after entering as the best playing player, and Maria who will either recover lost ground and push ahead in 2006 or stay where she is or fall back. Kim may be a long term threat (if she stays long term), Justine may recover, Maria may get going again, you get the feeling though that the key issue will be how well a fit Martina's key battles against the players now moving through the teens and twenties in the rankings.

Knizzle
Dec 1st, 2005, 03:22 AM
Does he ever think what he is writing? The point about those players is that Justine's virus can be just as devastating to her chances as Martina's foot was to hers, Mary and Lindsay are dominating the tour in their thirties (or almost there) but won't be around much longer and are not playing much , if at all , better than they did in 1999- 2000. That leaves Kim who looks very good when she plays well but who still didn't take home 2 2005 GS and 1 YEC trophies after entering as the best playing player, and Maria who will either recover lost ground and push ahead in 2006 or stay where she is or fall back. Kim may be a long term threat (if she stays long term), Justine may recover, Maria may get going again, you get the feeling though that the key issue will be how well a fit Martina's key battles against the players now moving through the teens and twenties in the rankings.

What about Serena and Venus?

fammmmedspin
Dec 1st, 2005, 03:34 AM
What about Serena and Venus?

You are right - he forgot them completely and when fit and ready and interested they know how to win and pose as big or bigger questions to Martina. They might not hang around long but they will probably still be here after Lindsay and Mary.

I just think his list of threats is wrong. Its a list of the sick or the players who may not be there in 2007. Maria will be interesting but she would need her early 2005 form and she isn't as mentally reliable as she was - the jury is out there. Martina's first job is to find a way past Myskina, Dementieva and Schnyder and not to be runover by Sesil, Ana, Francesca and Nicole. If she can get past them her chances of finding someone having an off day in the last two rounds are fair on 2005 form and her chances of not finding venus or Serena or Jen there are a lot better than they were in 2000-2001

partbrit
Dec 1st, 2005, 03:50 AM
I feel Martina has something up her sleeve, too, and I hope like hell it is an improved serve. She doesn't have to be another Mary Pierce. Medium-fast well-placed serves would probably be sufficient. If she's been working on the serve, then I'm excited about seeing her. If not, I'm afraid of being disappointed. I have missed her a lot.

mishar
Dec 1st, 2005, 03:52 AM
I assume the writer of the question must be referring to Serena destroying Hingis at USO 2001.. but Serena is not the player she was then. She might be again, but she hasn't played like that in a couple of years. Probably Hingis sees that and figures maybe she has a chance now.

wta whore 79
Dec 1st, 2005, 03:56 AM
I think Hingis clearly has the game to get back into the Top 5 in the world. And that's good enough for me. She has a style like no one else. She really has a fantastic sense of the court and knows how to play from a strategic point of view. I just heard about her comeback today, and I instantly lit up. She has been SEVERELY missed and I can't wait to see her in action!

KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 1st, 2005, 04:12 AM
Hingis has the game to come back. Yes she will be a big player come clay court season becasue that's where strategy is a big part. I hope she can move well and has bulked up and powered up for the debut.