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tenn_ace
Nov 29th, 2005, 09:47 PM
???

Any realistic ideas?

(please no Richard or Mr. Pierce posts as this wouldn't be realistic)

TeamUSA#1
Nov 29th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Her mother is her coach and should be her coach... Martina always did amazing things under her guidance. She should higher a serve coach ,though......

dinhd82
Nov 29th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Her coach should be, I forget his name, the one who coached her on the WTT team.

crazyroberto6767
Nov 29th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Melanie Molitor should remain her coach forever, with help on the side from various coaches. Whenever she swayed from her mom, trouble happened.

Edit: Her WTT coach was Joe Giuliano, he's funny as hell and very enthusiastic. I wouldn't mind him helping her out a little.

Hingiswinsthis
Nov 29th, 2005, 10:16 PM
Its sometimes not the coach, but the player. If Hingis says she is fired up to get going again at 25 then we can expect great things from her. Sure, many will doubt her form or her playing style...but with the injuries and players not wanting to play, Hingis will surely fill in the void that she left in 2002. Never say Never....I'm excited for my two girls Martina and Justine 2006~~!!!!

tenn_ace
Nov 29th, 2005, 10:21 PM
Its sometimes not the coach, but the player. If Hingis says she is fired up to get going again at 25 then we can expect great things from her. Sure, many will doubt her form or her playing style...but with the injuries and players not wanting to play, Hingis will surely fill in the void that she left in 2002. Never say Never....I'm excited for my two girls Martina and Justine 2006~~!!!!

good choices of favorites! :wavey: my top of the list ;)

patricktav2003
Nov 29th, 2005, 10:27 PM
maybe Martina Navratilova!??! im shure they will play in doubles at least one time in the year!!

dinhd82
Nov 29th, 2005, 10:30 PM
Melanie Molitor should remain her coach forever, with help on the side from various coaches. Whenever she swayed from her mom, trouble happened.

Edit: Her WTT coach was Joe Giuliano, he's funny as hell and very enthusiastic. I wouldn't mind him helping her out a little.

yes!! Joe should be her coach, he seem so enthusiastic about her and her game, her mother should be there as well but this time as a mom and supporter. Hingis needs something fresh and new!!

TonyP
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:21 AM
This is the most intriguing of questions. Martina is very devoted to Melanie, but I think she needs to at least augment Melanie's advise with the help of another coach, one who can help her serve. Joey and Martina seemed to get on very well, and he had nothing but praise for her work ethic and enthusiasm for the game when she played for the New York Sportimes. He would certainly be a candidate for the job.

Others who come to mind would be Nathalie Tauziat and Navratilova. Bad Gilbert is also available, but I don't think their personalities would mesh at all.(Brad strikes me as being about as much fun as a tax auditor.)

The other big question is, will Martina play doubles and if so, with whom. MY picks, assuming Anna does NOT come back, would be Kim or Gesila Dulko.

Hingiswinsthis
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:24 AM
Brad Gilbert...hmmmm....he can whoop her up into shape ala Andre Agassi :-)

Seriously, I think Martina should be smart enough to know that she needs OUTSIDE coaching other than her mother to give her a new dimension to her game. She needs a bad cop out there training her day in and day out if she really wants to return to the top. Hey, Pat Etcheberry is in Saddle Brook too, so why not get in shape with him? I too, have a feeling she is forming her entourage as we speak.

F-R-E-A-K
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:39 AM
Robert Lansdorp / Brad Gilbert.


:inlove: Ms. Molitor :crazy:

timray
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:41 AM
Robert Lansdorp / Brad Gilbert.


:inlove: Ms. Molitor :crazy:

Exactly

Volcana
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:57 AM
???

Any realistic ideas?

(please no Richard or Mr. Pierce posts as this wouldn't be realistic)Richard Williams WOULD be realistic. He has respect for her game, and no fear of bringing in out side help for things he doesn't know. Hingis' serve needs to come up, and RW coaches two of the best servers in the world.

TonyP
Nov 30th, 2005, 02:32 AM
But what makes you think their serve has anything what so ever to do with Richard. Where exactly did he learn how to serve a tennis ball. He can stand on the court to pitch balls across the net to the girls, but their technique came from Rick Macci and a collection of other coaches, not from Richard.

cartmancop
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:10 AM
I agree with her mom with the addition of a serve coach & probably a great trainer, not Etcheberry though;) someone similar to who Venus & Serena has (Kerri??) She does a pretty good job @ helping them deal with injuries, etc. IMO.

She's definitely got the $$$ to hire the best in each area, so she should:)

Ceecor
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:15 AM
Mike tyson......
or failing that i hear domir Dokic is available.

switz
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:24 AM
I don't think Hingis needs a coach anymore she just needs the support that her mother has always provided. I'm if she wanted to serve bigger she wouldn't need anyone to tell her how to do it - she just needs to bulk up and take more risks. Henin didn't need to change coach to get a bigger serve.

Martian Stacey
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:55 AM
One of the articles i read today said that Melanie would remain her coach. I'd like to see her have an outsiders perspective though, in addition to her mother.

*roddicksinme*
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:56 AM
John McEnroe!

Volcana
Nov 30th, 2005, 05:18 AM
But what makes you think their serve has anything what so ever to do with Richard.He's their coach, and has been since they were little girls.Where exactly did he learn how to serve a tennis ball. He can stand on the court to pitch balls across the net to the girls, but their technique came from Rick Macci and a collection of other coaches, not from Richard.It doesn't matter whether Richard Williams hired the right underlings, taught them himself, or if Orecene taught them. Richard Williams either knows how to teach a superior serve, or he knows who to get to teach a superior serve.

And that would help Hingis a lot.

Y'know, most of the rest of the tennis world has admitted that Richard Williams actually knows a lot about tennis. But somehow, you just can't. In a way, it's sort of valiant that you still refuse to give credit after both his pupils wind up ranked #1, and have 12 GS singles titles between them. (20 overall). Valiant, but it also makes you look amazingly stupid. There might be two or three other coaches who's students have done that well in an aggregate, but that's about it.

tenn_ace
Nov 30th, 2005, 02:56 PM
personally I don't think Melanie is a good option for Martina. Martina definitely needs someone who'd be able to push her, but do it subtly

Lansdrop probably not going to get a job with a big time tennis player any time soon due to his big mouth (for the right reasons or not). The guy badmouthed a lot of players who he worked with.

Brad Mad Gilbert is a joke and Martina shouldn't let him get less than a mile

Joe would be cool (even though he is an alcaholic)

honeyke
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:05 PM
glenn schaap :hearts:

Maryamator
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:09 PM
brad gilbert:D

moby
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:33 PM
It won't be Brad, methinks. Martina's pretty much said that she worked with Brad for a while, and he told him nothing her mother didn't already tell her when she was young. Melanie is a master tactician.

She definitely needs a serve coach though. Rusedski has offered to teach her to serve in the past, in return that she teaches him how to return (I think it was all in jest though).

If Martina is indeed playing with the original Martina, then Navratilova will help a lot all around. And I think that includes the serve.

Orion
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:52 PM
Robert Lansdorp wouldn't be a good coach for her, he focuses on flat groundstrokes and little finesse. Her game is entirely based around the finesse shots. He would ruin her.

Brad Gilbert might do good things with her serve, but a lot of the time, I feel he focuses on speed rather than placement. Who coached Alicia Molik?

Mafia_Sharapova
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:58 PM
Yuri Sharapov :devil:

JulesVerne
Nov 30th, 2005, 03:59 PM
Richard Williams WOULD be realistic. He has respect for her game, and no fear of bringing in out side help for things he doesn't know. Hingis' serve needs to come up, and RW coaches two of the best servers in the world.

Serena and Venus have very different service actions; Serena has a classical very correct action while Venus has an inconsistent action. I agree Serena is one of the best servers if not the best, but quite a few players have better serves than the Venus serve which can be very unreliable.

Copying the Serena service action would be very sensible, but not the Venus service action.

JulesVerne
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Maybe should get advice on her serve from Richard Krajicek. Her serve is the only stroke which really needs to change.

Anyway Roger Federer only has a part time coach and seems to do reasonably well.

Orion
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Is there any chance, at all, the Hingis would use Richard Williams as a coach? No. She's a little proud for that, and furthermore, his style of teaching has produced to power players. There's very little he could do to aid Hingis overall. The serve may get better, but he's not going to do anything with her groundstrokes and skillshots. If Melanie Molitor did one thing wrong, it was create a player that cannot be coached by the conventional choices (Lansdorp, Gilbert, Bollitieri, etc.). Martina's coach, if it changes from Molitor, is probably going to be a relative unknown who knows how to build a game around Martina's finesse shots, and help her regain her confidence.

Out of curiousity, do any of the top players have female coaches?

Martyś
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Yuri Sharapov

You can't be Martina fan :haha: Why do you want her to commit suicide.

Bette_Midler
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Loc Courteau :lol:

tenn_ace
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:14 PM
Is there any chance, at all, the Hingis would use Richard Williams as a coach? No. She's a little proud for that, and furthermore, his style of teaching has produced to power players. There's very little he could do to aid Hingis overall. The serve may get better, but he's not going to do anything with her groundstrokes and skillshots. If Melanie Molitor did one thing wrong, it was create a player that cannot be coached by the conventional choices (Lansdorp, Gilbert, Bollitieri, etc.). Martina's coach, if it changes from Molitor, is probably going to be a relative unknown who knows how to build a game around Martina's finesse shots, and help her regain her confidence.

Out of curiousity, do any of the top players have female coaches?

few Russian girls had, but not anymore.

Bette_Midler
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:15 PM
Hingis will be coached by her mother Melanie Molitor.


http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,17419194%255E3162,00.html

tenn_ace
Nov 30th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Hingis will be coached by her mother Melanie Molitor.


http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/co...55E3162,00.html

link gives an error, but theanks for the confirmation...

this thread is now irrelevant