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jimbo mack
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:00 PM
It all depends on her goals i guess. i think she could easily become top 10 again, maybe even win a slam (if myskina and kuznetsova can then i'm certain hingis can?)

but i can't see her dominating again or winning multiple slams

toward the end of her career she was being overpowered by lindsay, capriati, williams, seles.....why would things be any different now? unless she beefs up her game, particularly the serve

and then of course, there's all the health issues....

will it work? IMO its worth a try.

what do u guys think?

jonny84
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:03 PM
I think she has the skill and the drive to comeback. I don't think she would consider this lightly at all! I think that it may take time for her to fully comeback; smaller events or maybe a few ITFs just for her to gain form and confidence before stepping up and trying to win slams and Tier Is. She has been away for three years now, so it won't be easy and she can't stroll back in to where she was.

crazillo
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:04 PM
I think she can't dominate like she did when she left the tour, but she is certainly able to become a top-15/20-player again. I don't see her winning slams anymore though.

jimbo mack
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:05 PM
I think she can't dominate like she did when she left the tour, but she is certainly able to become a top-15/20-player again. I don't see her winning slams anymore though.

but surely if myskina and kuznetsova can?

adam_ads_n
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:07 PM
If she won't play too much the comeback can be very impressive

crazillo
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:10 PM
but surely if myskina and kuznetsova can?

Kuznetsova is someone who has great groundies and can be very dangerous. I agree that she wouldn't have won the tournament if Lindsay would have been fit, but it's not her fault. Myskina profitated from bad matches of her opponents and played smart tennis herself, although she is no slam contender, yes. ;)

I have a problem to believe that Martina can close the gap of three years without tennis so quickly. The tour has developed a lot and I'm sceptical. I always liked her. After Maggie's and Silvia's retirement I am happy to see a technical player to be still around, because the tour will miss this kind of game more and more from now on. Hopefully she will have a good year, but I can't see her having the same success as she used to have.

jimbo mack
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:21 PM
good decision not to come back at top level (eg aus open)

pattaya city would be a fine start

although, i hope she wins a match this time round :scared:

tennisrox
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:31 PM
This is brilliant news!!Hingis' style contrasts beautifully with the current crash-bang-wallop style of play.It'll be fascinating to watch her take on power tennis,with her court craft and guile.I don't know how far she can get,because we have to see how her body holds up physically,but its the best thing that could've happened to the tour. :D
The old school meets gen-X. :yeah:

hablo
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:41 PM
I'm glad that she's giving herself another shot :bounce::hearts:

I think that there still room for her style of game on the wtatour!!! :banana:

alwayshingis
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:42 PM
I think it will work for her.

Do I think she'll be #1 again? Probably not...
But I think she will be a competitive top 10 player, and it is always good to have more challenges in the top of the tour. She still has the ability to beat top players even when they are on.

Berlin_Calling
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:44 PM
If Martina can beef up her serve, itll be a huge boost. Patty, Justine, and Francesca, all of whom are shorter than Martina, have great serves, so if she works on it, Martina can achieve this too. Martina also has tremendous volleying skills. I think if she were to net often, she could fare very well with the top guns (cause it is a fact that Martina will never be able to overpower many of the top players).

Wojtek
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:47 PM
I think she can't dominate like she did when she left the tour, but she is certainly able to become a top-15/20-player again. I don't see her winning slams anymore though.

Davenport can be number one, Hingis can be top ten,

Dawn Marie
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Hingis didn't even work on her serve when she was playing and that was hurting her, so to comeback with that serve is not good. 20-30 player at the most. The players that Hingis use to beat will turn around and stomp her.

Myskina and Sveta will beat her almst everytime. Especially Sveta she'll break that serve apart. These girls are faster and go for their shots more. There was a reason why Hingis left the time that she did.

I would love for her to comeback to see a LIVE Hingis/ Vee match woud be a dream.:)

jimbo mack
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:48 PM
i always thought martina needed to step into her serve more, and now she will need to

in her serving motion i found she used to lean too far back which promoted alot of topspin, but not much power. if she had a higher ball toss and really lunged into her serve i believe it would far more effective amongst the modern style of tennis

jimbo mack
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:51 PM
Hingis didn't even work on her serve when she was playing and that was hurting her, so to comeback with that serve is not good. 20-30 player at the most. The players that Hingis use to beat will turn around and stomp her.

Myskina and Sveta will beat her almst everytime. Especially Sveta she'll break that serve apart. These girls are faster and go for their shots more. There was a reason why Hingis left the time that she did.

I would love for her to comeback to see a LIVE Hingis/ Vee match woud be a dream.:)

but hingis is more consistent than myskina and kuznetsova. if hingis played myskina at the french this year and kuz at the US she would have beaten them easier than sanchez lorenzo or bychkova did.

blumaroo
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:53 PM
Well I'm so happy that she will return. I think she can be a top 20 player if she's fit and plays a full schedule. If Natalie Dechy and Elena L can still be in the top 20, then I don't see why Martina can't. Her biggest chance for a slam is RG. She's not the greatest clay courter but with a good draw and some errorfilled matches from opponents who knows? SHe won't win from all the top players though.
Also, she should definitely have some succes in doubles.

tennisrox
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:55 PM
If Martina can beef up her serve, itll be a huge boost. Patty, Justine, and Francesca, all of whom are shorter than Martina, have great serves, so if she works on it, Martina can achieve this too. Martina also has tremendous volleying skills. I think if she were to net often, she could fare very well with the top guns (cause it is a fact that Martina will never be able to overpower many of the top players).

I think she could do well if she comes to the net more often.Most of these young players can't pass,or lob worth a damn.She could pose some problems.But from the baseline she's going to struggle with the power.It'll be interesting to see how the baseline-brigade fares against a master tactician like Hingis.They would never have played anyone like her.

lukehingis
Nov 29th, 2005, 05:58 PM
Hopefully she realises that she needs to come into the net more and make use of her brilliant volleys... she won't win multiple slams, but I won't rule out a title at Melbourne or Paris if she can return to the form she had at AO 2002... It's worth noting that after AO 2001, Hingis' form really declined, made way too many errors and was just popping those serves in and not taking any risk, other than a brief return to form at AO 2002, she was never the player she used to be... hopefully she comes back with a bag of new tricks to outsmart everyone... most of the players now are just bashing the ball from the baseline!! (except nastya at her peak)

Carmen Mairena
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:04 PM
I'm afraid that she won't be able to break the top-10 again, even though I'd be very happy if she did it! :unsure:

:Rawwb:
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:08 PM
Everybody is talking about lack of power blah blah blah but surely the clay courts of Roland Garros will (sort of) even it out? With so many ball bashers she could do well on the clay courts as she knows how to play on the stuff. It would be great to see her again :D

new-york
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:10 PM
i don't know how the hell she will do. she got skills, for sure, but things have changed.
i'm glad if she's back though because even if she's not one of the player i like, that's good to have her name around. those great names.

jfk
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:25 PM
What will help Hingis in her comeback is her CONSISTENCY. She was someone who you could depend on to reach the semis and finals of WTA events. Even if she can't reach that level, I don't see her losing to players ranked below the top 20 on a regular basis. If players like Jankovic, Likhovsteva, and Dechy can be top 20 all year, why not Hingis?

I can't wait for a Hingis/Capriati first round match at the AO! :eek:

tennisrox
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:29 PM
Everybody is talking about lack of power blah blah blah but surely the clay courts of Roland Garros will (sort of) even it out? With so many ball bashers she could do well on the clay courts as she knows how to play on the stuff. It would be great to see her again :D

I agree.She could give these power players hell on clay.Most of them are poor movers too.The real issue is not Martina's skills,but her fitness and stamina.If she gets her fitness upto scratch i give her a pretty good chance on clay.Only Justine would be a real hurdle.And Kuzzy if she can ever get her head together.

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:32 PM
It all depends on her goals i guess. i think she could easily become top 10 again, maybe even win a slam (if myskina and kuznetsova can then i'm certain hingis can?)
but i can't see her dominating again or winning multiple slams

toward the end of her career she was being overpowered by lindsay, capriati, williams, seles.....why would things be any different now? unless she beefs up her game, particularly the serve

and then of course, there's all the health issues....

will it work? IMO its worth a try.

what do u guys think?

Didn´t Seles ex-coach said that?!? Cause you know if Myskina and Kuzi can do THAT, so can I!

TeamUSA#1
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:35 PM
What will help Hingis in her comeback is her CONSISTENCY. She was someone who you could depend on to reach the semis and finals of WTA events. Even if she can't reach that level, I don't see her losing to players ranked below the top 20 on a regular basis. If players like Jankovic, Likhovsteva, and Dechy can be top 20 all year, why not Hingis?

I can't wait for a Hingis/Capriati first round match at the AO! :eek:

Although that would be fun to see, Capriati will most likely get seeded at the AO.

Everyone babbles on about how much the game has changed since 2002, but it really hasn't. If anything, there are more opportunities to win due to the plethora of injuries and withdrawls. I am sure those who have been sitting on the sidelines all year (Hingis, Capriati, Seles) were thinking that if I were heathly, I certainly could have had some good chances at some titles in 2005 with everyone injured or playing crap due to coming back from injury. Martina was having issues when she retired due to her weak serve, and she will need to address that if she wants to hoist another slam trophy; however, look at Dementieva... she has NO serve and she has made 2 slam finals in 2004 and the SF at this years 2005. Surely if she can get there on the strength of her groundies, Martina could be hopefull for similiar results based on the strength of her all-court game......

MisterQ
Nov 29th, 2005, 06:41 PM
There's a general assumption that a less-powerful shot is a less-effective shot. What always made Hingis special, however, is that she understood how her lack of pace could be used to her own advantage. For example, she knows that floating a ball back against a player who rarely volleys will give her the opportunity to move back into proper position on the court; she knows that it takes a certain amount of time to sneak in behind a shot and get in position to volley, and her slower pace allows that. She understands the pressures that are put on some opponents when they constantly have to generate their own pace. She also knows how to take the ball early and use angles to rush her opponent even without hitting the ball especially hard. With her finesse and precision, she is great at creating openings for winners. I'm not saying that Hingis will definitely rise to the top of the game next year... but I wouldn't underestimate her cleverness.

Dinkie
Nov 29th, 2005, 07:19 PM
She might do well at first and then have a little slump while season progresses because of fatigue and getting used to playing three-setters. She should give herself at least 1 and a half years to get back in full swing.

And she stated she missed the competition (and probably the attention, she loved being in the limelight), that's what she is coming back for. She already won 40 tournament in singles alone. She has nothing to prove anymore but it would be great if she could do a Mary next year.

RAA
Nov 29th, 2005, 07:23 PM
I think top 10 is doable for her. if she can stay injury free.
she will need to put some pop on her serve, but even without that, she can be a top 10 player I think. even if her serve is weak, if she gets in a high percentage of first serves, she could be quite effective.

how about seeing a hingis / JHH match up! that would be excellent! I would love to see that, if both are fit and playing well!! and just for old times, maybe a hingis/mary P match up!

I truly can't believe i'm saying this but i'm thrilled she is coming back. with all the injuries and some recent retirements, its nice to have a familiar face back in the mix.

franny
Nov 29th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Well she's probably been training for the past few months, and will probably continue to train for the next few months. She needs to start it off slow, but I can see a return to the most competitive stage of tennis at Roland Garros. If she can win some matches earlier on in the year, then maybe win some smaller clay court tournaments, who knows. She might be able to do pretty well at Roland Garros. Maybe a quarterfinal showing even. If that goes well, she can use the rest of 06 to just keep working her way up to tier 2's and then tier 1 events. She'll get a wildcard into any event she wants, but she can't take it too fast and can't be impatient. She can't expect to be in top 10 by year end of 06. Top 20 is possible, top 30 is realistic, but not top 10. I think that if she continues to work hard off the court, play herself into form on the court, and barring any injures, she should return to the top 10 by 07. I just want to see her play for at least a few more years. Ahhhhh, I'm so freaking happy!!!!

fnuf7
Nov 29th, 2005, 07:45 PM
I think she's got the skill etc to succeed, and I'm really intrigued as to how she'll do against players that I've never seen her play that have improved/won slams since she's been away.

But I do think that if she's going to compete against all the top players, she's going to have had to work on her power and speed around the court so she isn't just blasted away by someone like Serena or Maria. I think she's going to have to be a bit like Kim, get everything back and just keep going until you can play a few good placed shots. Anyhoo, should be interesting...just hope she doesn't come back for like a month and get injured again...

Dawn Marie
Nov 29th, 2005, 07:55 PM
OMG! Hingis is coming back!! I always knew it wasnt so much that she would be wheelchair bound. That girl was burt out!!


Anyway, I can't wait for a Hingis/Venus match.. yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay:)

I think Martina will have trouble with the pace and needs to get into the net more so then ever. She is a great clay courter specialistso I pick that she will do well on the red clay. She needs to be in the best shape of her life as this is the key. revamp that serve. If Justine can revamp so can she.

I am looking forward to seeing a Hingis vrs Juju matchup.

Hingis vrs Maria .. interesting.:)

MisterMan
Nov 29th, 2005, 07:58 PM
Ask Marlene Weingartner

jenny161185
Nov 29th, 2005, 08:06 PM
Hingis didn't even work on her serve when she was playing and that was hurting her, so to comeback with that serve is not good. 20-30 player at the most. The players that Hingis use to beat will turn around and stomp her.

Myskina and Sveta will beat her almst everytime. Especially Sveta she'll break that serve apart. These girls are faster and go for their shots more. There was a reason why Hingis left the time that she did.

I would love for her to comeback to see a LIVE Hingis/ Vee match woud be a dream.:)

yeah the girls are all faster than hingis, martina was one of the fittest ladies out there as for being ranked between 20-30 how do you know what ranking position she'll get to?

santhuruu
Nov 29th, 2005, 08:37 PM
No, I don't think so. If she plays against one of the Williams sisters, she will get double bagelled in such a bad way.

Robbie.
Nov 29th, 2005, 08:40 PM
No, I don't think so. If she plays against one of the Williams sisters, she will get double bagelled in such a bad way.

:rolleyes:

dinhd82
Nov 29th, 2005, 08:46 PM
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