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fresh2flash
May 3rd, 2002, 10:53 AM
Friday's draw for the Fed Cup tennis World
Group playoffs (home teams listed first,(s) designates
seeded teams):
Hungary vs. Argentina (s)
Australia (s) vs. Netherlands
Czech Republic (s) vs. Canada
Colombia vs. Japan (s)
China vs. Russia (s)
Slovenia (s) vs. Ukraine
Sweden vs. Switzerland (s)
United States (s) vs. Israel

fresh2flash
May 3rd, 2002, 10:54 AM
Russia will have to go to China :(

TheBoiledEgg
May 3rd, 2002, 11:26 AM
away :( but we should get thru

wonder where they will play, i guess as far south and east as they can. Maybe Hainan island :eek:

I was there in 2000 and its very strict and security is very tight you could say.

Steveg
May 3rd, 2002, 03:17 PM
Could take place in Guang Zhou, like the last Asia Fed Cup event.

I'll be interested to see how Chinese players behave against top 20 opponents. Li Na in particular. And how the Chinese doubles team does (certainly Jie / Zi).

spiceboy
May 3rd, 2002, 05:13 PM
Easy for Czechs, Slovenia,USA & Colombia (sorry danker, but Japan on colombian red clay against Zuluaga & Castaño won't do much damage).

Australia, Russia & Switzerland shouldn't have many problems but they have to play with their better players if they don't want to suffer.

But the real thrill of the qualifying round will be Hungary - Argentina in Budapest. I expect a very close tie with these two real claycourt teams.

Rising Sun
May 3rd, 2002, 05:38 PM
Japan has the play Colombia away. :fiery:
It it were on hardcourt, it'd be a different story.

Very very tough, especially since Ai is most likely not playing as usual. :rolleyes:

They should definitely use Rika Fujiwara as one of the singles players.

Brian Stewart
May 3rd, 2002, 08:40 PM
I would expect the US will not be playing on clay. Probably on a hard court.

Hungary has a tough call. Do they go with their best surface, clay, which is also Argentina's best? Or do they go with a surface they're not as good on, hoping it will be worse for the Argentines?

LucasArg
May 5th, 2002, 01:08 AM
Argentina not playing home:mad:

Anyway I am sure, the argentinian will crush the hungarian team:wavey:

Randy H
May 5th, 2002, 03:25 PM
nice draw for the Canadian team really, especially considering the team the Czechs used last tie. If they have Daja, Denisa, Kveta, and another of their higher ranked players they should get through, but even at that, they can all be inconsistent so who knows. :)

TheBoiledEgg
May 5th, 2002, 10:31 PM
Randy ....... I guess if the Czechs used Barbora Strycova, Petra Cetkovska and Eva Birnerova they would proably win.

plus this will be on clay in Prostejov the most likely venue.

KoOlMaNsEaN
May 5th, 2002, 11:42 PM
GO CANADA!!!!!!!

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
May 6th, 2002, 06:32 PM
Thank GOD we do not have to go to Israel as we would probably withdraw with all the turmoil over there.

We will probably play in the west.....Arizona, California, Oregon, or Nevada somewhere. Because Bank of the West will be right after this and Venus will be playing too.

Or, they might put it in the southeast to be convinent for the American players.

Either way....we better win or that would be extremely embarassing. The losers go to relegation rounds....like vs. the Bahamas and Puerto Rico?

My GOD, could you imagine? Has the USA ever done that before?

monster
May 6th, 2002, 10:23 PM
It would be great if the US played at Rhode Island on grass.
Straight after W'don so maybe?????
It would nulify any chance the israelis had of beating the US

Frau Antje
May 13th, 2002, 09:03 PM
damn, how should the Netherlands travel to Australia in the middle of the season? :fiery:

Mattographer
May 15th, 2002, 07:25 AM
I have no problem with it, Frau Antje! :p Australia need us! :p

C'mon Aussie!! :p

Rising Sun
Jul 3rd, 2002, 12:27 PM
Japan have lodged an appeal to the ITF to re-locate due to safety reasons. If not, they will withdraw. :eek:

Ai was scheduled to play too. :eek:

V.Melb
Jul 3rd, 2002, 01:06 PM
Well - i can tell you now - i would not go to Columbia! :eek:

spiceboy
Jul 3rd, 2002, 10:50 PM
:fiery: :fiery: :fiery: Crappy excuses from the japanese team
Don't they know that there is a WTA tour tournament in Bogotá and that in this year's event even a japanese player played there??? :rolleyes:

Rising Sun
Jul 4th, 2002, 05:25 PM
spiceboy, Fed Cup is totally different to a WTA event. Let's not forget either that the ATP event was also cancelled due to security reasons.

Anyway, if they lose the appeal, they will simply withdraw and the Colombians will be promoted to the World Group. :rolleyes:

Steveg
Jul 5th, 2002, 06:33 PM
Luke, bad news for Japan :( . I hope the sanctions won't be too hard.

spiceboy
Jul 5th, 2002, 06:50 PM
Danker, I know Fed Cup is totally different to a WTA event but what is your point? :confused:

If the ITF says there is no problem and if there's a WTA tournament succesfully held every year (with a japanese fed cup player -Fujiwara- coming the last 2 years) I can't see the fears of coming to Bogotá :(

Anyway, welcome Colombia to World Group :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Rising Sun
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:09 PM
My point was that there was always a cause for concern regarding security there, whether or not the ITF says it's ok. The decision was political, so I don't think Rika Fujiwara's participation in the past has any effect.

Anyway, congrats to Colombia.

spiceboy
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:22 PM
OK Danker, if this is your point you are saying that no tennis tournament should be held in US (you know, concern regarding security...)

Steveg
Jul 6th, 2002, 05:18 PM
Are you comparing Colombia with USA :confused: ?

I just saw a report showing the present hostages held in Colombia by some rebel organisation. One of them is French-Colombian.

Is there the same situation in USA :confused: ?

spiceboy
Jul 6th, 2002, 05:31 PM
No, is not the same situation. You know what demagogy means, Steveg? Your questions are demagogy.

But while there is no real menace for players and all you have is guessings I think there are more chances of a terrorist attack of any type in US than in Colombia right now but that's not reason to cancel a tie as the ITF said!!!

BTW I would be more afraid attending a US - Israel tie than a Colombia - Japan one, believe me.

Steveg
Jul 6th, 2002, 07:59 PM
I know what demagogy is and I am wondering how come this term can be employed here :rolleyes: .

demagogos (Greek) : who leads the nation / chief of a faction, hence later who defends the interests of the nation and later who flatters the nation (pejorative).

In the case of your posts, I would use the word consistency or rather inconsistency. You start to compare situation in USA with situation in Colombia and one message after, you indicate the situation is not comparable. This is called inconsistency.

The second word that could be applied is undocumented. You will find below the CIA country report about Colombia :

The lack of public security is a key concern for investors, making progress in the government's peace negotiations with insurgent groups an important driver of economic performance. Colombia is looking for continued support from the international community to boost economic and peace prospects.

And for additional information :
Illicit drugs: illicit producer of coca, opium poppies, and cannabis; world's leading coca cultivator (cultivation of coca in 1999 - 122,500 hectares, a 20.3% increase over 1998); cultivation of opium in 1999 increased to 7,500 hectares from 6,100 hectares in 1998; potential production of opium in 1999 - 75 metric tons, a 25% increase over 1998; potential production of heroin in 1999 - nearly 8 metric tons, as compared with 6 tons in 1998; the world's largest processor of coca derivatives into cocaine; supplier of about 90% of the cocaine to the US and the great majority of cocaine to other international drug markets, and an important supplier of heroin to the US market; active aerial eradication program.

Steveg
Jul 6th, 2002, 08:48 PM
Here is an extract from the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs security information about Colombia :

COLOMBIE Mise à jour : 16/04/02
La Colombie connaît l'un des taux de criminalité les plus élevés du monde. Les dangers sont liés à la délinquance, aux guérillas et au trafic de stupéfiants.

Toutes les régions du pays présentent des risques très élevés en raison de l'activité des guérillas, comme des groupes paramilitaires armés.

Les déplacements par voie routière sont à proscrire dans le pays tout entier, à l'intérieur du pays comme aux frontières avec l'extérieur : Venezuela, l'Equateur et la région Amazonienne.

Les sites touristiques tels que San Agustin ou la Cité Perdue (Sierra Nevada près de Santa Marta) sont à exclure, de même qu'il est fortement déconseillé de sortir des villes où l'on se trouve.
L'insécurité, tant en milieu urbain que rural, perdure : blocages des grands axes, demandes de rançons, séquestres...

Les familles adoptantes sont invitées à rester en contact permanent avec les services consulaires ainsi qu'avec les consuls honoraires durant toute la durée de leur séjour et doivent, dès leur arrivée en Colombie, faire appel à une personne spécialisée dans les démarches administratives concernant les adoptions.
Il convient d'éviter, bien évidemment, les signes extérieurs de richesse (bijoux, montres, etc.), de n'avoir que peu de liquidités sur soi et d'être vêtu simplement.

Compte tenu de l'insécurité qui règne dans le pays, pour ceux qui n'ont pas d'autre solution que de s'y rendre, il est recommandé de contacter, avant tout projet de voyage, le service consulaire de l'Ambassade de France en Colombie (n° de télécopie : 638.14.55 ). Arrivé en Colombie, il est plus que souhaitable de prévenir les mêmes services consulaires (tél : 638.14.48 et 638.14.47).

In short (free translation) :
- Colombia experiences one of the highest criminality rates in the world
- Insecurity in rural and urban areas goes on : blockade of major road axes, impoundments, demands of ransoms...

spiceboy
Jul 6th, 2002, 10:44 PM
Steveg darling, we won't agree even if we keep on posting for ages. At least I'm glad you took your time to find some social facts about that beautiful country and somehow you got more cultivated.

Demagogy? Yes, you show it again. What illicit drugs have to do with playing a Fed Cup tie?

V.Melb
Jul 6th, 2002, 11:12 PM
Basicly spiceboy the whole bloody country is unsafe!
illicit drug trade and corruption is an example of the poor socio-economic state of the country - hence its unsafe.

Steveg
Jul 7th, 2002, 02:12 AM
Vixen, don't waste your time as I did (even if it took me 5 minutes). This person is just trying to get some attention.

V.Melb
Jul 7th, 2002, 07:23 AM
Yeah i know. But its not like we are being un-reasonable. Its soooo simple. Columbia is very unsafe and is notorious for it - therefore japan don't want to play there - so simple.
I am at a loss - what is there to dispute? Its like saying oranges aren't orange.
Columbia is unsafe - there is rampant crime. My freind who used to live there told how his mum got shot at - thats why they came to australia. There really isn't two-ways about it.

anyways...
Steve - we will rest our hopes on china ;)
Jie is really looking promising :)