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Andrew..
Nov 13th, 2005, 03:09 PM
I figured this would be a good thread to kickoff the offseason.

What do you think Lindsay will play next year?

The following are my predictions. Tournaments in red have been confirmed. Tournaments in green have been played.

Jan 9 Medibank International, Sydney
Jan 16 Australian Open QF
Jan 30 Toray Pan Pacific Open, Tokyo
Feb 27 Dubai Duty Free Women's Open SF
Mar 6 Pacific Life Open, Indian Wells
Mar 20 NASDAQ-100 Open, Miami
Apr 3 Bausch & Lomb Championships, Amelia Island
Apr 10 Family Circle Cup, Charleston
Apr 17 Fed Cup
Jun 26 Wimbledon
Jul 10 Fed Cup
Jul 24 Bank of the West Classic, Stanford
Jul 31, Acura Classic, Carlsbad
Aug 7, JPMorgan Chase Open, Los Angeles
Aug 28, US Open
Oct 2, Porsche Tennis Grand Prix, Stuttgart
Oct 9, Zurich Open
Nov 6, Year Ending Championships, Madrid

I think she'll end up playing very little outside of the United States, excluding the Australian summer/Pacific rim. She's pretty much going to have to play Miami this year, unless she wants to eat a huge WTA fine, as Miami is now a hard designation. I think she skips the red clay completely, including Roland Garros; though, she might play that I guess. Depends on how much WTA is on her ass about it. I don't think she'll try to defend her title in New Haven. She doesn't like to play before slams anymore. I think after the US Open, she'll play a very light schedule.

Thoughts?

mike/topgun
Nov 13th, 2005, 03:46 PM
I agree :rolleyes:
only the slams are the goals :cool: for what would probably be a "goodbye season" for Lindsay on tour... :bigwave:
She'll defenetly play in Californian Summer HC series coz that's her favourute time to play (besides OZ tour)... ;)
I doubt she'd come to Europe to play on clay or in lone RG<to spend 30th birthday in Paris away from home and friends> and even next after US Open... :tape:
I'm quite sure she's gonna end her career after NY... :tears: :hatoff:
Other tournaments, like Dubai or Amelia Island, are not as important for her as GS and Indian Wells f.e. :bolt:
She would decide after Australian-EastAsian tour, what to do next...
hopefully sh'ell keep going, to maintain her lead and aiming for one more GS Crown :drool: :worship: :bounce:
I can't wait to see Linds in Sydney and Me!bourne in january :devil: ...Australian is my favourite GS after all :drool: :lick: :p ;)

Loughyunijen
Nov 13th, 2005, 05:16 PM
I agree with Andrew I rekon LIndsay will play very little out of the US - she hates travelling! Also theres only so many times you can win a tier 1 or a tier 2!

Heres what I rekon she'll play:

Jan 2 Watson's Water Challenge, Hong Kong - shes already confirmes to play this.

Jan 9 Medibank International, Sydney - She'll probably play this as a warm up event for Oz Open

Jan 16 Australian Open - GS, so she'll deffo be here!

Jan 30 Toray Pan Pacific Open, Tokyo - Im in two minds about this, she usually does, but I could see her skipping this, next year, cause shes playign Hong Kong in January.

Feb 27 Dubai Duty Free Women's Open - she'll play this and make a holiday of it too!

Mar 6 Pacific Life Open, Indian Wells

Apr 3 Bausch & Lomb Championships, Amelia Island

Apr 10 Family Circle Cup, Charleston

NO CLAY SEASON AT ALL - she's blatently gonna get "injured" for this season!

Jun 26 Wimbledon - hopefully she'll be here!

Jul 24 Bank of the West Classic, Stanford

Jul 31, Acura Classic, Carlsbad

Aug 7, JPMorgan Chase Open, Los Angeles

Aug 28, US Open

I hate to say i but I rekon she'll retire after US Open. Although this will depend on if she is winning grand slams next year or not. But if she goes through 2006 slamless...I rekon she'll call it quite here at her beloved USO!

13 tournies! that sounds about right!

wkchiang
Nov 13th, 2005, 06:47 PM
Jan 2 Watson's Water Challenge, Hong Kong
Jan 16 Australian Open

Win that slam and annouce retirement OTS.

Andrew..
Nov 13th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Jan 2 Watson's Water Challenge, Hong Kong
Jan 16 Australian Open

Win that slam and annouce retirement OTS.
In interviews, she's implied that a) she has no intention of stopping in the near future, and b) that when she starts a year, she plans on finishing it. That's why I didn't buy anything about an "Indian Wells retirement planned" by Lindsay earlier this year. She's not going to train that hard in the offseason just to play part of the year. It's just not happening.

I personally believe that's she'll play all of next year, and maybe even a very reduced schedule in 2007 - i.e. skipping anything she doesn't want to play, and sticking to the slams and West Coast events.

Lindsayfan32
Nov 13th, 2005, 07:26 PM
I read somewhere that she going to play even less than what she played this year and gear up for the slams and not play during the clay season at all. Which make sense to me she'll be freash and ready for the slam she has a real chance of winning. She played 17 tournements this year so much is less.

Andrew..
Nov 13th, 2005, 07:31 PM
I read somewhere that she going to play even less than what she played this year and gear up for the slams and not play during the clay season at all. Which make sense to me she'll be freash and ready for the slam she has a real chance of winning. She played 17 tournements this year so much is less.
Yes, though she would have played 19 tournaments had it not been for the back injury forcing her out of the Socal area tournaments.

I really don't know where she could cut back. Four slams, the two tier I hard designations (IW + Miami), her three California tournaments, the Australian summer and Pacific rim (three + one exhibition), other hard designations (two, probably end up being Dubai and one other tier II), green clay (two) and the Tour Championships. That's sixteen events. I just can't see her dropping green clay with the success she's had at AI in recent years.

Ty-Ty
Nov 13th, 2005, 07:44 PM
I'm very skeptical on the exhibition matches. Just seems like another way to get injured. Didn't she do that around this time last year against Sharapova?

And doesn't Miami = Injury?

Andrew..
Nov 13th, 2005, 07:50 PM
I'm very skeptical on the exhibition matches. Just seems like another way to get injured. Didn't she do that around this time last year against Sharapova?

And doesn't Miami = Injury?
She's not playing any off season exhibitions, except for the Evert Charity Tournament in early December.

They're going to force her into Miami this year. I don't know how she'd get out of that.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 13th, 2005, 08:15 PM
I'm thinking a quarter final tank.

I think she should:

4 slams
IW, MIA, Tokyo, San diego Zurich.
'Stadt, AI, Stanford, JPM.
YEC.

That would be fine. She'll probably play Dubai. Eastbourne may be good, to get into grass court mode. But, she didn't have any problems this year.

lindsayno1
Nov 13th, 2005, 09:10 PM
shes never gonna win RG. so skip it i say. She doesnt want to be there and the tennis and attitude she brings annoys me. Train hard for Wimbledon...play Birmingham for once cos its near me and then win wimbledon. Give Maria a few smack downs and start owning Mary again. Beat Kim a few more times too....

!<blocparty>!
Nov 13th, 2005, 09:12 PM
She is NOT playing Birmingham.

lindsayno1
Nov 13th, 2005, 09:16 PM
She is NOT playing Birmingham.


LMAO! I was joking about Birmingham. Edgebaston is a lovely place, but birmingham is a shit hole and Lindsay would be in a phat mood there!

!<blocparty>!
Nov 13th, 2005, 09:19 PM
Lindsay's Birmingham Stampede.

I don't like the sound of it.

Ty-Ty
Nov 13th, 2005, 09:45 PM
I don't think she should skip RG. THIS year, she a) made it to the quarters. b) beat clijsters. and c) had she beaten mary, who she owned in the 90's, would've played elena likhovtseva in the semis.

And she did all this with the bitchest attitude. If someone would just get her to realize this, change that horrible mindset of hers ... I mean, it's a slam. We don't have room to be picky.

mike/topgun
Nov 13th, 2005, 10:04 PM
I don't think she should skip RG. THIS year, she a) made it to the quarters. b) beat clijsters. and c) had she beaten mary, who she owned in the 90's, would've played elena likhovtseva in the semis.

And she did all this with the bitchest attitude. If someone would just get her to realize this, change that horrible mindset of hers ... I mean, it's a slam. We don't have room to be picky.
You're right.
We can't forget she was not in mood playing in Paris but she made a 1/4 final berth beating Kim on the way...forced somehow by her husband to do well :p
RG is a slam - I agree - but it's recognized as the most unsuitable for Lindsay's game<if she wasn't so lazy she would change her mindset>
but 30th birthday away from home - it's just not her :rolleyes:
Suppose 15 starts will be enough to get prepared for the slams:
(Hong-Kong)
1.Sydney
2.AUS OPEN
3.Tokio
4.Indian Wells
5.Miami
6.Amelia Island
7.RG??????????
8.WIMBLY
9.Stanford
10.San Diego
11.Los Angeles
12.US OPEN
13.Filderstadt
14.Zurich
15.YEC
hope so ;)

lindsayno1
Nov 13th, 2005, 11:05 PM
she needs to get out of these moodswings. its not going to do her any favours. If she stays positive, she CAN get these slams. Im glad she says shes not ready to retire yet, but she needs to act like she wants to be there.

wkchiang
Nov 14th, 2005, 01:20 AM
Jan 16 Australian Open
Win that slam and annouce retirement OTS.

Yeah, personally I don't believe she will quit for good *if* she wins 2006 Aus Open, either. She probably will think then she can win both Wim & USO, too. I wrote it for hoping Lindsay will think about her legendary - retires as world No.1 is a pretty good story.

Talking about legendary, if Lindsay decides to play related-full schedule next year, I do hope she wins 1 or 2 Tier I (or above) clay title - Family Circle Cup or RG will be fine :angel:

That being said, I'll suggest Lindsay play the following schedule if I were her agent:

Jan 2 Watson's Water Challenge, Hong Kong
Jan 16 Australian Open
Jan 30 Toray Pan Pacific Open, Tokyo
Mar 6 Pacific Life Open, Indian Wells
Apr 3 Bausch & Lomb Championships, Amelia Island
Apr 10 Family Circle Cup, Charleston
Jun 26 Wimbledon
Jul 31, Acura Classic, Carlsbad
Aug 7, JPMorgan Chase Open, Los Angeles
Aug 28, US Open
Oct 2, Porsche Tennis Grand Prix, Stuttgart
Oct 9, Zurich Open
Nov 6, Year Ending Championships, Madrid

add one more if WTA does introduce "requirement tournaments" like ATP does:
Mar 20 NASDAQ-100 Open, Miami but then I will cancel
Apr 3 Bausch & Lomb Championships, Amelia Island

And, oh, no more 3 concurrent California tournaments, please...

Elldee
Nov 14th, 2005, 03:25 PM
I personally don't think she'll play in Hong Kong... why would she leave home earlier than needed? Then I think she'll play Sydney, the only pre-slam warm up tournie of the season to shake off the rust. Then, Australian Open [no doubles] and then play Toray Pan Pacific. Rest before title defence in Dubai to warm up for Indian Wells. Lindsay said in this years US Open magazine that she misses Key Biscayne/Miami on purpose for a rest at that point in the year so I think she'll take the fine if needed. Next, Amelia Island defence and hopefully her first Charlston title. No red clay tournements but quite possibly Roland Garros depending where her ranking is [if she's one, she might have to and if she risks falling out the top four she should probably play it too]. I agree that she'll want to give Fed Cup another go but it depends on the team that her and Zina can assemble... assumably Venus will have got herself together again. Then no Wimbledon warm up, Eastbourne risks injury that close to her best slam chance and Birmingham keeps her away from home for a month. Then Wimbledon, the most important tournement of the year, onto Stanford, San Diego and LA. Nice break and then the US Open. Filderstadt, possibly Zurich and then Madrid.

Frederic
Nov 14th, 2005, 04:51 PM
I don't understand why she does want to play in Charleston... She has never won there, and everytime she has a problem there or a dodgy loss...

!<blocparty>!
Nov 14th, 2005, 04:59 PM
Oh, she better not play any doubles.

lindsayno1
Nov 14th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Oh, she better not play any doubles.

amen.

Drake1980
Nov 14th, 2005, 05:25 PM
She won't play Miami

LindsayRulez
Nov 15th, 2005, 07:35 PM
don't play Hong Kong! or Charleston! the French only puts her in a bad mood...I think she should play:

Sydney, Australian Open, Tokyo, Indian Wells, maybe Miami, Amelia Island, maybe French, Wimbledon, Stanford, LA, San Diego, US Open, Filderstadt, Zurich, YEC (13-15 tournaments)

lindsayno1
Nov 15th, 2005, 07:46 PM
don't play Hong Kong! or Charleston! the French only puts her in a bad mood...I think she should play:

Sydney, Australian Open, Tokyo, Indian Wells, maybe Miami, Amelia Island, maybe French, Wimbledon, Stanford, LA, San Diego, US Open, Filderstadt, Zurich, YEC (13-15 tournaments)


I want her to play Dubai again. Her attitude was good there, even though she nearly puked on court in the semis!

Andrew..
Nov 15th, 2005, 09:18 PM
I was shocked how positive she was there.

The UAE is filthy rich. They've built up Dubai as their own Beverly Hills - except bigger, and even better. That place isn't even funny. They're getting all the rich Arabs to go there, now they're just trying to get the Westerners. I'm sure the tennis players love it there. They stay at the Burj al Arab, which is arguably the best hotel in the world, they get to do some really unique things, and when not playing, they can sit on the beach and do nothing.

I love Dubai.

Lindsayfan32
Nov 15th, 2005, 10:15 PM
The fact she's playing next year keeps me happy. Where she decides to play is up to her but no clay and playing a reduced schedule sound good to me. We don't get the french open in Australia so skipping the clay is a great idea and even if we did it bores me to point of sleep anyway.

LindsayRulez
Nov 15th, 2005, 11:11 PM
ok, you convinced me, Dubai is a good idea ;)

jacs
Nov 16th, 2005, 01:41 AM
Dubai is very cosmopolitan but alot of it borders on tacky. The Burj-al arab is an example. You really have to get used to the heat because it's unlike in more tropical regions where the humidity allows you to sweat.

But I must say it's nice, clean and modern. And they have so much money there that they don't know what to do with it.

Andrew..
Nov 16th, 2005, 02:10 AM
I love desert heat though. Lindsay should too, considering Indian Wells' location.

lindsayno1
Nov 16th, 2005, 08:58 AM
Yeah watching then play tennis in the red dirt is like watcihng tennisin slow motion.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Nov 17th, 2005, 06:27 PM
I also feel Lindsay should play Roland Garros. Even though it's on clay, at least it'll give her some matches before Wimbledon. Look how well she did last year at RG, she can do the same in '06.

Andrew..
Nov 17th, 2005, 08:07 PM
Toray confirmed Lindsay's participation in the Pan Pacific Open next year.

GrandSlam05
Nov 18th, 2005, 01:36 AM
She wins Oz beating Kim in the final, but loses #1
Then takes out the Shark at Pan Pacific.
Long 3-setter and ousts Ree in Dubai.
Then wins big March beating Kim in both finals. Linds takes back #1.
Takes out Vee at Amelia Island.
Trounced by Martinez 1r of Rolland Garros, but who cares? Loses #1
Takes out Sharapova to win Wimbledon, beating Kim along the way (6-3, 6-4 like it should've been last time).
Goes on yet another tear and wins Stanford, SD, LA, and enters Toronto and thumps Momo in the final. Returns to #1.
Beats Elena Dementieva 7-6 in the third of the USO semis and Henin-Hardenne 7-6 in the third in the finals after coming from match point down in both matches.
Plays (and wins) Bali and Filderstadt.
Takes some time off until she storms into the YEC and disposes of everyone without dropping a set.
Finishes 5th overall and 3rd consecutive as YE #1.
Retires? No way, her appetite gets even bigger!

lindsayno1
Nov 18th, 2005, 10:01 AM
She wins Oz beating Kim in the final, but loses #1
Then takes out the Shark at Pan Pacific.
Long 3-setter and ousts Ree in Dubai.
Then wins big March beating Kim in both finals. Linds takes back #1.
Takes out Vee at Amelia Island.
Trounced by Martinez 1r of Rolland Garros, but who cares? Loses #1
Takes out Sharapova to win Wimbledon, beating Kim along the way (6-3, 6-4 like it should've been last time).
Goes on yet another tear and wins Stanford, SD, LA, and enters Toronto and thumps Momo in the final. Returns to #1.
Beats Elena Dementieva 7-6 in the third of the USO semis and Henin-Hardenne 7-6 in the third in the finals after coming from match point down in both matches.
Plays (and wins) Bali and Filderstadt.
Takes some time off until she storms into the YEC and disposes of everyone without dropping a set.
Finishes 5th overall and 3rd consecutive as YE #1.
Retires? No way, her appetite gets even bigger!

haha you WISH!

Elldee
Nov 18th, 2005, 11:21 AM
Toray confirmed Lindsay's participation in the Pan Pacific Open next year.

LOVE it. We want this title back!

santhuruu
Nov 18th, 2005, 11:51 AM
Hello Lindsay Davenport fans, first I want to say that I'm a big Williams sisters fan, but at the next place it is Davenport for me. She is soooo great for tennis. I always enjoy her watching play tennis. I really hope that she will perform again great like she did in the last two years. I also think she deserves a Grand Slam, because she works soo hard!

I think Davenport will have a super 2006!:D

Frederic
Nov 19th, 2005, 10:03 AM
She wins Oz beating Kim in the final, but loses #1
Then takes out the Shark at Pan Pacific.
Long 3-setter and ousts Ree in Dubai.
Then wins big March beating Kim in both finals. Linds takes back #1.
Takes out Vee at Amelia Island.
Trounced by Martinez 1r of Rolland Garros, but who cares? Loses #1
Takes out Sharapova to win Wimbledon, beating Kim along the way (6-3, 6-4 like it should've been last time).
Goes on yet another tear and wins Stanford, SD, LA, and enters Toronto and thumps Momo in the final. Returns to #1.
Beats Elena Dementieva 7-6 in the third of the USO semis and Henin-Hardenne 7-6 in the third in the finals after coming from match point down in both matches.
Plays (and wins) Bali and Filderstadt.
Takes some time off until she storms into the YEC and disposes of everyone without dropping a set.
Finishes 5th overall and 3rd consecutive as YE #1.
Retires? No way, her appetite gets even bigger!
:eek: :lol: :haha: :haha: :haha: I'd really like Lindsay to win a slam (or two, maybe three???) this year... I'm gonna pray for her... :angel:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Nov 19th, 2005, 06:31 PM
She wins Oz beating Kim in the final, but loses #1
Then takes out the Shark at Pan Pacific.
Long 3-setter and ousts Ree in Dubai.
Then wins big March beating Kim in both finals. Linds takes back #1.
Takes out Vee at Amelia Island.
Trounced by Martinez 1r of Rolland Garros, but who cares? Loses #1
Takes out Sharapova to win Wimbledon, beating Kim along the way (6-3, 6-4 like it should've been last time).
Goes on yet another tear and wins Stanford, SD, LA, and enters Toronto and thumps Momo in the final. Returns to #1.
Beats Elena Dementieva 7-6 in the third of the USO semis and Henin-Hardenne 7-6 in the third in the finals after coming from match point down in both matches.
Plays (and wins) Bali and Filderstadt.
Takes some time off until she storms into the YEC and disposes of everyone without dropping a set.
Finishes 5th overall and 3rd consecutive as YE #1.
Retires? No way, her appetite gets even bigger!

Honestly not too far fetched, it COULD happen

!<blocparty>!
Nov 19th, 2005, 06:37 PM
She wins Oz beating Kim in the final, but loses #1
Then takes out the Shark at Pan Pacific.
Long 3-setter and ousts Ree in Dubai.
Then wins big March beating Kim in both finals. Linds takes back #1.
Takes out Vee at Amelia Island.
Trounced by Martinez 1r of Rolland Garros, but who cares? Loses #1
Takes out Sharapova to win Wimbledon, beating Kim along the way (6-3, 6-4 like it should've been last time).
Goes on yet another tear and wins Stanford, SD, LA, and enters Toronto and thumps Momo in the final. Returns to #1.
Beats Elena Dementieva 7-6 in the third of the USO semis and Henin-Hardenne 7-6 in the third in the finals after coming from match point down in both matches.
Plays (and wins) Bali and Filderstadt.
Takes some time off until she storms into the YEC and disposes of everyone without dropping a set.
Finishes 5th overall and 3rd consecutive as YE #1.
Retires? No way, her appetite gets even bigger!

Loves it Willie B:worship:

;)

Ty-Ty
Nov 20th, 2005, 01:43 AM
I know why so many suicides happen during Christmas now ...

It's called, off season.

:help:

Andrew..
Nov 20th, 2005, 02:24 PM
I know why so many suicides happen during Christmas now ...

It's called, off season.

:help:
That's really disturbing.

alfonsojose
Nov 21st, 2005, 07:18 PM
She's a guest star on MTV's "Laguna Beach" :yeah:

Elldee
Nov 21st, 2005, 08:21 PM
sounds like sarcasm to me.

Ty-Ty
Nov 22nd, 2005, 12:00 AM
That's really disturbing.

:angel:

Andrew..
Dec 5th, 2005, 06:23 PM
Lindsay is skipping Sydney. And handing Kim the #1 ranking.

I love it when we do these things.

Ty-Ty
Dec 6th, 2005, 01:28 AM
Pity. She only had a QF to defend. A Lindsay - Kim final would have been a nice gauge of how Lindsay might play at the Oz.

Oh well.

lindsayno1
Dec 6th, 2005, 01:24 PM
pah.

LethalLindsay
Dec 16th, 2005, 05:48 AM
Let's Focus On The Big Picture Here. Lindsay Has Always Said That Slams Are More Important To Her Than The Ranking Anyway (although Don't Think I Didn't Catch Her Grinning When She Knew She Had Locked It Up At The Yec!), And While I Still Feel Wimbledon Is Her Best Shot, The Ball Sits Up Nicely On The Rebound Ace For Her!
I Have Always Thought The Main Reason She Hasn't Done Deadlier Things At The Oz Is Due To It Being The Beginning Of The Year. If It Wasn't A Slam I Think She Would Be Happy Starting In Tokyo!

Lindsayfan32
Dec 16th, 2005, 06:41 AM
She wins Oz beating Kim in the final, but loses #1
Then takes out the Shark at Pan Pacific.
Long 3-setter and ousts Ree in Dubai.
Then wins big March beating Kim in both finals. Linds takes back #1.
Takes out Vee at Amelia Island.
Trounced by Martinez 1r of Rolland Garros, but who cares? Loses #1
Takes out Sharapova to win Wimbledon, beating Kim along the way (6-3, 6-4 like it should've been last time).
Goes on yet another tear and wins Stanford, SD, LA, and enters Toronto and thumps Momo in the final. Returns to #1.
Beats Elena Dementieva 7-6 in the third of the USO semis and Henin-Hardenne 7-6 in the third in the finals after coming from match point down in both matches.
Plays (and wins) Bali and Filderstadt.
Takes some time off until she storms into the YEC and disposes of everyone without dropping a set.
Finishes 5th overall and 3rd consecutive as YE #1.
Retires? No way, her appetite gets even bigger!

This sounds great on paper but it a top shelf fantasy year. I would like to see Lindsay win the oz open next year and put the slam demons to bed once and for all. But if she does don't be suprised if she does retire at IW next year she is starting to give a strong indication this will be it. I hope I'm wrong but I think it will be her last year a IW retirement wouldn't surpise me.

lindsayno1
Dec 16th, 2005, 09:15 AM
what indications are they then?!

Kelly
Dec 16th, 2005, 11:09 AM
i was thinking the other day...is the Ozzy Open cursed!!

i mean most people who have won it have all suffered serious injurys since winning it. Lindsay with her knees and foot, Hingis and her ankles, Capriati and her shoulder, Henin with her virus, serena and well...a dip in form! Seles and her feet....maybe it would be best for lindsay not to win the Oz....just a random observation that came to me lol.

Andrew..
Dec 16th, 2005, 05:26 PM
IW retirement is crap. Lindsay wouldn't train all off-season to play for less than three months. It goes against all logic.

She's pretty much made the same statements. When she starts a year, she finishes it.

mike/topgun
Dec 16th, 2005, 06:23 PM
we'll see...
definitely, when she stays healthy and eager she will fight for GS Title...in Melbourne, London and NY<perhaps in Paris>...
and, even if she does win OZ Open, she will be probably more eager to capture another one in London or NY...
so she's more likely to compete whole season chaseing this one<say 2 or 3> Grand Slam crown(s) :)

Andrew..
Dec 17th, 2005, 12:20 AM
Lindsay doesn't believe she can win a slam anymore. That's a huge problem.

Ty-Ty
Dec 17th, 2005, 02:20 AM
Lindsay doesn't believe she can win a slam anymore. That's a huge problem.

That's the problem. And the fact she usually comes up just short enough in the big matches, which can be contributed to former as well.

GrandSlam05
Dec 17th, 2005, 02:32 AM
This sounds great on paper but it a top shelf fantasy year. I would like to see Lindsay win the oz open next year and put the slam demons to bed once and for all. But if she does don't be suprised if she does retire at IW next year she is starting to give a strong indication this will be it. I hope I'm wrong but I think it will be her last year a IW retirement wouldn't surpise me.
Dude, the post was fantasy too. Even if Lindsay stayed injury-free enough to play all those tournaments (and that's a BIG if), she would get stopped by someone.
Even the Golden Retriever with her surgically repaired wrist didn't win that many even though she played everything in sight.
And I agree with 'Drew, I don't think Lindsay will retire at IW. If she shows up fat and sloppy at Oz, then we have things to worry about.

mike/topgun
Dec 19th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Attention please
I have read something on www.eurosport.tf1.fr

<<Traumatisée par ses quatre défaites consécutives en finale à Melbourne, au All England Club (x2) et à l'US Open, la joueuse de Palos Verde est prête à faire les sacrifices nécessaires pour décrocher son Graal. "Après Miami (fin mars-début avril), je vais voir ce qui se passe. Je serais surprise si je retournais à Roland-Garros. Je ne vais pas jouer une saison complète comme cette année".>>
and i'm not really good at french so i'm not sure whether my translation is correct...but it seems LIKE IN 2006:
LINDSAY WON'T PLAY A WHOLE SEASON LIKE IN 2005, AND AFTER MIAMI SHE'LL DECIDE WHETHER TO PLAY IN RG (SHE'D BE SURPRISED IF SHE PLAYED THERE) AND WHAT TO DO NEXT
please let someone check this:http://eurosport.tf1.fr/home/pages/v4/l3/s57/e7375/sport_lng3_spo57_evt7375_sto802704.shtml
it could be true that she'll retire in april :tape:

Andrew..
Dec 19th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Yes, your translation really isn't very correct.

She's saying that she won't decide if she is going to play RG until after
Miami, and that she doesn't want to hurt her chances at the other slams by playing a full schedule. She said she's not going to play a full schedule this year, but it sounds like she means no RG, and probably no clay. Not quitting half way through.

The entire article focuses on what she needs to do to win a slam - i.e. scheduling, not retirement.

Kimmi
Dec 19th, 2005, 07:07 PM
Yep, she will consider the rest of the year after Miami.

But I think/hope that it simply means that she will play less than normal. I wouldn't be surprised if she skipped the French Open since her 30th would fall in week 2 (if she made it that far).

I expect her to finish the year, but just to play less. Maybe a couple of the US Open Series, like Stanford and LA - the ones close to home, Wimbledon (please!!), The US Open and Masters (if she makes it). Apart from that, I wouldn't bet on anything.

Andrew..
Dec 19th, 2005, 07:13 PM
Yep, she will consider the rest of the year after Miami.

But I think/hope that it simply means that she will play less than normal. I wouldn't be surprised if she skipped the French Open since her 30th would fall in week 2 (if she made it that far).

I expect her to finish the year, but just to play less. Maybe a couple of the US Open Series, like Stanford and LA - the ones close to home, Wimbledon (please!!), The US Open and Masters (if she makes it). Apart from that, I wouldn't bet on anything.
Lindsay said the same things last year, "Oh, I don't like full schedules! I play in California! I love USA!", and she ended up playing like 17 events, so whatever.

The article is saying she'll see about RG after Miami, and plan out the rest of her schedule. It doesn't even imply retirement.

Kimmi
Dec 19th, 2005, 07:19 PM
Lindsay said the same things last year, "Oh, I don't like full schedules! I play in California! I love USA!", and she ended up playing like 17 events, so whatever.

Well, I think the fact that she is playing an exhibition and not Sydney is a big indiciation to the sort of year she is planning :)

I still wouldn't be surprised if she skipped RG though, actually, I would be more suprised if she did play it!! :p

Andrew..
Dec 19th, 2005, 07:28 PM
She said that she doesn't think she'll play RG.

I don't read anything into playing HK. Those people pay upper six figures for the top players. It's like playing Dubai or Doha.

mike/topgun
Dec 19th, 2005, 08:24 PM
you're right of course, but my translation wasn't that bad at all
as i expected she prob won't play in Paris...<i wrote that somewhere before>
it's obvious Linds isn't going to play a full schedule and will decide what to do after Miami - to go or not to go to RG...and where to play...it isn't said that she's going to play whole year - when injury happen...

Andrew..
Dec 19th, 2005, 08:42 PM
I'd bet my house on her playing a full year, barring serious injury.

Almost the exact same things were said last year. I don't know why these are such "revelations" so some people.

mike/topgun
Dec 19th, 2005, 08:51 PM
I'd bet my house on her playing a full year, barring serious injury.

Almost the exact same things were said last year. I don't know why these are such "revelations" so some people.

no Andrew...
last year before the Aus Open she said something like this: "I'll play in Melbourne thats for sure" and nothing more :rolleyes:
and it's not a revelation but an info :lol:
:wavey:

Andrew..
Dec 19th, 2005, 08:54 PM
She also made comments about being unsure about things after IW.

It didn't mean retirement then, and it doesn't mena retirement now.

lindsayno1
Dec 19th, 2005, 09:04 PM
lindsay will play a similar year to this one imo, but poss no RG

mike/topgun
Dec 19th, 2005, 09:27 PM
And we agree that Linds gonna win in Me!bourne those seven matches?...:p
I hope she won't come to RG and focuses on Wimby more - that should give her the GS opportunity she could not waist ;)

LindsayRulz
Dec 19th, 2005, 09:33 PM
Je serais surprise si je retournais à Roland-Garros.

She said exactly the same thing for wimbly 2005 in 2004 :rolleyes:

Andrew..
Dec 19th, 2005, 09:58 PM
The WTA is forcing her into Miami. They'll probably force her into RG too.

Kelly
Dec 20th, 2005, 12:22 AM
well in january this year we thought she was gonna retire after this year with her saying 'I hope to be back' in her speach....no one knows except lindsay.

lindsayno1
Dec 20th, 2005, 07:58 AM
I dont believe anything she says anymore... Announcing retirement at the end of the year....loadsa rubbish!

Frederic
Dec 20th, 2005, 08:18 AM
Well, just read the whole article please... Don't worry about retirement please, Lindsay just told that her shedule will be much more lighter than past few years. She tells in this article she absolutely wants to win a slam THIS year, and she will do all for it to reach her goal. So it will pass by all clay season (green and red) withdrawal. She also told she won't fight anymore for ranking, she acknowledged she isn't physically strong enough to fight for ranking and a slam at the same time anymore. So guys, just be prepared to see Lindsay winning Australian Open, and Wimbledon!!!!!!!!!

Andrew..
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:44 PM
Confirmed Miami tournament in original post.

Andrew..
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:45 PM
Well, just read the whole article please... Don't worry about retirement please, Lindsay just told that her shedule will be much more lighter than past few years. She tells in this article she absolutely wants to win a slam THIS year, and she will do all for it to reach her goal. So it will pass by all clay season (green and red) withdrawal. She also told she won't fight anymore for ranking, she acknowledged she isn't physically strong enough to fight for ranking and a slam at the same time anymore. So guys, just be prepared to see Lindsay winning Australian Open, and Wimbledon!!!!!!!!!
Yes, that's what I got out of the article.

But, some people still insisten that their French was superior to mine. Oh well. At least now I have the support of a native French speaker to back me up.

Elldee
Dec 20th, 2005, 08:51 PM
I think anything different is worth a go... I'll miss regular Lindsay, but whatever if she wins a slam.

mike/topgun
Dec 20th, 2005, 09:54 PM
and that's a big "if"...there's no guarantee she can capture it while not playing a full schedule preparing fo the GS... :rolleyes:but she must do something different from what she's done in 2005, coz there will not be many chances - let's say 3?...still it's someway a slite risk as it's the only opprtunity ;)
Linds is experienced and i believe she knows exactly what she's doing :)
for this new coach - David DiLucia - was a quite good player(beat Kuerten, Kafelnikov, Philippoussis), now in USTA staff...not a GS champ though...but who knows what they'll produce together...we're looking for some changes in GS finals compared to 2005 :lick:
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and Andrew... >whats your problem dude?< as you say it i guess :p :rolleyes:
just :lol: at you...[B]i pointed it out that my french is not good [B] before, and you still took it so seriously - could i ever post anything that could make you so ambitious bout it :lol:
it's a fact that we have an off-season...there are some things that should make you laugh for sure or - as you like it - for Gods sake :tape: :bounce:

:wavey:

Andrew..
Dec 20th, 2005, 09:59 PM
What.

jacs
Dec 21st, 2005, 06:46 AM
Let's not make this into a big deal people.

Kimmi
Dec 21st, 2005, 10:07 AM
I have to agree with Mike: Andrew - chill out!! :cool:

Mike said that his French wasn't perfect and even asked for someone to check the website out. I translated at the same time you did and posted just after you, and if this has offended you in some way then I apologise. But no-one said that their French was superior: I said exactly the same as you - she will consider the rest of the year after Miami - I just don't think that she will play RG, that's all.

No-one here knows what she is planning, only she does - like Kelly said. As long as we support at whatever tournaments she decides to play - be it Bank Of The West or Bali - that's the important thing :banana:

C'mon people! This could be the last year :sad: We have to make the most of it before it passes by!! :bigclap:

mike/topgun
Dec 21st, 2005, 11:03 AM
No-one here knows what she is planning, only she does - like Kelly said. As long as we support at whatever tournaments she decides to play - be it Bank Of The West or Bali - that's the important thing :banana:

C'mon people! This could be the last year :sad: We have to make the most of it before it passes by!! :bigclap:

Kimmi is totally right :bigclap: :yeah:
And we should be really supportive :bounce: ...And besides the fact that we're all very proud of Linds being the #1 we must see whats the most important thing there in sport - it's all bout having fun, enjoying it... :p :sport:
"if" Lindsay manages to stay fit and enjoys the game she's good enough - she's able - to win a Slam whateva the schedule she plans to play in 2006 :worship: ...I can't wait for WWC 2006 in HK and Me!bourne and TPP etc. as would like it to last 4ever, but it won't. And it's a fact that it's going to be one of the most intense seasons in her careere - not as intense schedule - but the expectations/opportunities/chances/preperations for the "big win" ;) :aparty:
Staying positive is also a key factor for her in the case of finally winning the title she's been chasing since 2000 and for 4 GS finals since AO '00:cool:
Along with this new coach they'll try to reach the goal...And imho there's a great chance they'll make it :smoke: :worship:
:bigwave:

mike/topgun
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:30 AM
And this is what Tracy Austin has said on Lindsay recently:
Lindsay Davenport has not committed to play past March. In 2005, Davenport managed to finish atop the WTA rankings for a second straight year and the fourth time in her tremendous career.

I think it's a smart thing for her not to commit too far ahead. She's done everything she needs to in tennis, but at the same time I would think it's pretty tough to retire when you are still in the hunt for Grand Slams and the No. 1 ranking in the world.
;)

lindsayno1
Dec 22nd, 2005, 01:30 PM
as andrew says shes not gonna have a new coach AND train in the off season to play for only 3 months...

Andrew..
Dec 22nd, 2005, 03:23 PM
And this is what Tracy Austin has said on Lindsay recently:

;)
She wasn't commited to anything past March last year either, and everyone then was saying OMG2005 LINDZYS GONNA RETURE~~~~~~!!!!!!1111111.

All this proves is that she's not planning far ahead.

I can't argue with these kids anymore.

mike/topgun
Dec 22nd, 2005, 03:31 PM
Don't you get it? ;) ???????then you should read it again ;)
She basicly said that: "...it's smart for her not to commit too far ahead..."
becouse all depends how well Lindsay gonna do in GS :p

-and we all keep writing the same things, and we're agreeing bout the schedule, etc... :bounce:
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don't know what's your point then again :rolleyes: Andrew... :lol: and who do you call "kids" :cool: you're quite entertaining must admit:lol:
I can't believe that this quote could ever make you react in a certain way or wateva :tape:
imho this is a board and not a stand out comedy show... :lol: as it's really funny though :cool:
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Let's hope that Lindsay doesn't read this stuff :tape: :worship: :p

:wavey:

Andrew..
Dec 22nd, 2005, 04:18 PM
Please ban the obnoxious and excessive use of smiles in this forum. Thanks.

Elldee
Dec 22nd, 2005, 04:24 PM
She wasn't commited to anything past March last year either, and everyone then was saying OMG2005 LINDZYS GONNA RETURE~~~~~~!!!!!!1111111.

All this proves is that she's not planning far ahead.

I can't argue with these kids anymore.

Lindsay's been quite clear that she doesn't want to end midway through a year if she's healthy whether she gets a slam or not. People are making something out of nothing.

mike/topgun
Dec 22nd, 2005, 06:56 PM
Don't know whether you read 'some posts' in this thread...
Please make sure yoou read them(again)...then we could argue - but argue... about what? coz we still have similar<or even the same> view on this case...so I still don't get your point :p
It seems like you're overreacting or missunderstanding my posts...just stretching a bit the whole situation over and over again...
Clearly it's the last time I write this particular line:
- I'm sure that Linds isn't going to quit right in the middle of the season
The best advice I can give - just try to read those posts above again.
Thanx ;)

Kelly
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:44 PM
ah...the off season, brings out the arguments...lets be a bit festive people and enjoy lindsay while we have her.

mike/topgun
Dec 22nd, 2005, 11:15 PM
Yap it really seems that we all can't wait for the new season... So let's stop those silly critics and think of something very positive - that it's soon when Lindsay gets back on court again chasing her 4th Grand Slam victory...
And btw Happy Xmas everyone :)
Just let's keep fingers crossed for a good final run for Davy in 2006 ;)

Andrew..
Dec 23rd, 2005, 02:07 AM
Lindsay's been quite clear that she doesn't want to end midway through a year if she's healthy whether she gets a slam or not. People are making something out of nothing.
Thank you.

LethalLindsay
Dec 23rd, 2005, 06:02 AM
WELL.... you didn't seriously expect me to pass up an opportunity to throw in my two bits worth did you???
I am not taking sides, but I have always felt that people should prefix their statements with the words "I THINK" in front of them. It is true to say that NO-ONE IN THIS FORUM "KNOWS" what lindsay is doing with her life and therefore should refrain from stating that they do.
Having said that, and this does not mean it would never happen, I would find it EXTREMELY hard to believe Lindz would hire a new coach and not play beyond March. There really would be no point. She is experienced enough to make three months on the tour on her own and rich enough to hire hitting partners to do the work. Hell a temp PA could book the practice courts for her! LOL!
I THINK ;)........Lindsay will play the year, if not atleast until the US Open, it's just my little old opinion.
MERRY MERRY GUYS!!!!!!

lindsayno1
Dec 23rd, 2005, 08:36 AM
lindsays says once she starts the year, she will finish it barring injury..

Andrew..
Dec 23rd, 2005, 11:37 PM
Player of the Year Women: Lindsay Davenport
The four slams in 2004 were won by four women hit hard enough by injury that they could not complete a full year of play -- and again Davenport, who hasn't won a slam since 2000, steals the year-end No. 1 ranking. And she did it after skipping the entire European claycourt run-up to the French Open. Davenport was supposed to retire at the end of last year with a foot injury, but when the foot healed and she found herself still playing at the top of her game..."There's going to be a void in my life when (tennis is) gone," said Davenport, who plans a full campaign again in 2006. "I've never been one to sit around. I tried it once and after three days, it was like, 'This sucks, I'm so bored, I have no purpose.' I do know, number one, that I want to start a family and have kids. So, as far as having another career, I think that would be tough to do right away."

Elldee
Dec 24th, 2005, 10:42 AM
Good ol' Lindsay.

jacs
Dec 24th, 2005, 01:59 PM
I am not taking sides, but I have always felt that people should prefix their statements with the words "I THINK" in front of them.


I digress but my high school teacher told us once that saying "I think" before a statement is a bit redundant. She said that if a statement does not contain an refernce to another source, it automatically means that the claims made are that of yours. As in, of course it is YOU who thinks it. Por ejemplo, saying "you're fat" is the same as saying "I think you're fat." It does not mean that when you say "you're fat" it is already a fact. It is not a statement of fact. It is stating an opinion.


Joke.


Have a good one guys. :)

Andrew..
Jan 9th, 2006, 02:23 PM
Dubai and Indian Wells confirmed.

lindsayno1
Jan 9th, 2006, 02:23 PM
awesome

Andrew..
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Amelia Island confirmed.

RayRob
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Tokyo, Dubai, Indian Wells, Miami (as it is now mandatory) and Amelia Island, then apparently followed by, "In bed for a month".

-Rache

LindsayRulez
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:18 PM
woo hoo!! i'm so going to see her at miami or amelia island...or BOTH! lol

LindsayRulez
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:20 PM
wow i just realized how much tennis that is with indian wells, miami and amelia island (5 weeks with no break!) and then after that is charleston, which she usually plays, but I hope she doesn't because she tends not to do so well there...

RayRob
Jan 16th, 2006, 06:52 PM
wow i just realized how much tennis that is with indian wells, miami and amelia island (5 weeks with no break!) and then after that is charleston, which she usually plays, but I hope she doesn't because she tends not to do so well there...

Yeah, Lindsay usually skips Miami but she said it's now mandatory so she'll be doing a big schedule. I think that's what she was refering to when she said, "then I'll be in bed for about a month" ;) I guess the only advantage of playing Miami is that it means extra points. Anything she loses anywhere else can be pulled back in Miami.

Also, the advantage hse has is that she generally missed most of the red clay season, so she'll have a bit of a break after Amelia Island. I don't think she'll head off to Charlston...but you never know.

-Rache

Frederic
Jan 16th, 2006, 06:57 PM
She talked about no clay season at all, that means no green/red clay... But she has the title to defends... And one more title for Lindsay!!!

Elldee
Jan 16th, 2006, 07:03 PM
Really looking forward to Tokyo... LOVE that tournement. And Filderstadt. And Wimbledon.

mike/topgun
Jan 16th, 2006, 08:00 PM
me too-I do like alot Pan Pacific and Porsche GP as well as Zurich, Indian Wells coz Linzi have always done great there...;)
I'm almost sure she'll play Miami and then Amelia before skipping Charleston and red clay in Europe...and I think she's going to play in RG anyway - at the end it's a Slam:p

Andrew..
Mar 7th, 2006, 06:51 PM
Lindsay is not playing Charleston. Is she trying to tank her ranking.

Sigh... I wish she would start caring soon. :sad:

lindsayno1
Mar 7th, 2006, 07:15 PM
what?!

mike/topgun
Mar 7th, 2006, 07:32 PM
Are you sure Andrew?
As above I'd rather see her playing RG instead - so a good move if....if she makes some decent results in IW, Miami and AI.I think she cares...maybe she even cares too much;)

Andrew..
Mar 7th, 2006, 07:32 PM
I said, "Lindsay is not playing Charleston. Is she trying to tank her ranking.

Sigh... I wish she would start caring soon."

k.

Elldee
Mar 7th, 2006, 07:42 PM
She said at the Aussie she wasn't playing Charleston and unless she gets upset somewhere along the road at Miami, IW or Amelia, I think that's for the best.

RJWCapriati
Mar 7th, 2006, 11:58 PM
I think she will win Wimbledon :yeah:

lindsayno1
Mar 8th, 2006, 12:44 AM
i did think it at the start of the year. but who knows!

Frederic
Mar 8th, 2006, 11:44 AM
I just enjoy watching her play good match, and know it's the main thing that matter to me. I think we all are very lucky to still be able to see her playing in 2006. Just remember 3 years ago, when she had this crappy Morton's neuroma, and she was just ranked 5 or 6, when she won only 1 title this year, and didn't even play the YEC, and talked about retirement... I'm pretty sure that no one would have thought she could do it. 2 gran slam finals more, beating Venus & Serena, beating Kim two times in a row, 7 titles in 2004, 6 in 2005, year end n°1 two years in a row. Great accomplishment isn't it? So we should demand too much yet.
Indian Wells is broadcasted on eurosport, and I really hope she'll be loudly cheered by the crowd.

Andrew..
May 4th, 2006, 02:55 AM
Lots of updates.

Looks like Lindsay talking about a "reduced summer schedule" was a bluff. She's commited to the following tournaments:

Stanford
Carlsbad
Carson
New Haven

Then, of course, the US Open. I'm suprised she's playing New Haven. Though, it's probably a smart way to pick up some quick matches before the Open.

Lindsay's upcoming schedule is as follows:

Istanbul
Roland Garros
Off week (Birmingham)
Off week (Eastbourne)
Wimbledon
Fed Cup?
Off week (Cincinnati)
Stanford
Carlsbad
Carson
Off week (Montreal)
New Haven
US Open
Bali

That's a pretty packed schedule from late May on. Exciting. :)

Frederic
May 4th, 2006, 08:12 AM
What is Carlsbad and Carson? Is it like Los Angeles, San Diego?? Sorry for my lack of knowledge...

RayRob
May 4th, 2006, 08:28 AM
Stanford
Carlsbad
Carson
Off week (Montreal)
New Haven
US Open
Bali

That's a pretty packed schedule from late May on. Exciting. :)

:lol: I was even going to pay a visit to New haven on my way through to NY from RI. I think you told me it was a little rough though....so I thought I should go straight to USO qualies instead.

How on earth do you get all this information? Pulled together from several news sources? Or do you have the inside feed? ;)

Thanks for the info.
-Rache

lindsayno1
May 4th, 2006, 08:40 AM
Awesooome!

Kelly
May 4th, 2006, 12:26 PM
omg are we actually gonna get some tennis!! gooo lindsay

GrandSlam05
May 4th, 2006, 01:44 PM
What is Carlsbad and Carson? Is it like Los Angeles, San Diego?? Sorry for my lack of knowledge...
Yeah Carlsbad=SD and Carson=LA. For some reason I thought the SD tourney was in La Jolla, LOL.

GrandSlam05
May 4th, 2006, 01:45 PM
And thanx for the updates Andrew. This is indeed very exciting!

mike/topgun
May 4th, 2006, 03:55 PM
I've thought I saw a thread about Beijing and Lindsay was on the list along with JHH.

Ok, so that's what we should call a "reduced schedule"...well she's probably going to withdraw from one tourney if she plays many matches before USO-would be wise not to risk another i-n-j-u-r-y...and I have a strange feeling it's gonna be Yale:p
Very good news - thanx for the updates Andrew:)

MH0861
May 4th, 2006, 04:56 PM
I've thought I saw a thread about Beijing and Lindsay was on the list along with JHH.

Ok, so that's what we should call a "reduced schedule"...well she's probably going to withdraw from one tourney if she plays many matches before USO-would be wise not to risk another i-n-j-u-r-y...and I have a strange feeling it's gonna be Yale:p
Very good news - thanx for the updates Andrew:)

Yes, Lindsay has committed to Beijing.

Frederic
May 5th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Weird decision from her, especially if she wants a reduced schedule...