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Andrew..
Nov 4th, 2005, 06:44 PM
Lindsay will travel up I-5 to downtown Los Angeles to compete in the 2005 Year Ending Championships.

I hope she has successfully recovered from her bout of avian flu.

fnuf7
Nov 4th, 2005, 07:05 PM
Yeah, come on Lindsay! End the year on a high and no injuries!

!<blocparty>!
Nov 4th, 2005, 09:43 PM
This title is a bit bland. I was expecting something sensational for the final event of 2005.

I'm not hoping for too much from Linds. It's basically indoor clay.

Andrew..
Nov 4th, 2005, 10:05 PM
This title is a bit bland. I was expecting something sensational for the final event of 2005.

I'm not hoping for too much from Linds. It's basically indoor clay.
We don't deserve exciting titles when we come down with avian flu.

I'm expecting SF, where we get killed by KIM!.

LindsayRulez
Nov 4th, 2005, 10:08 PM
We don't deserve exciting titles when we come down with avian flu.

I'm expecting SF, where we get killed by KIM!.

There's another thing that I don't like, that the #1 and #2 players in the world can play in the semifinals. GO LINDSAY!

Andrew..
Nov 4th, 2005, 10:13 PM
There's another thing that I don't like, that the #1 and #2 players in the world can play in the semifinals. GO LINDSAY!
That's what I really can't stand about this RR format. There's almost no difference between the seeds, except that 1 and 2 can't play until the semis, which is stupid.

Elldee
Nov 4th, 2005, 11:00 PM
I expect a semi in this crappy field.

LindsayRulez
Nov 4th, 2005, 11:29 PM
There's no reason Lindsay shouldn't be in the final. And if she plays like she did in Filderstadt or even Zurich, she has a good chance at winning.

Andrew..
Nov 4th, 2005, 11:33 PM
There's no reason Lindsay shouldn't be in the final. And if she plays like she did in Filderstadt or even Zurich, she has a good chance at winning.
Well, if she plays Kim in the semis, I just don't see her winning that. This surface is really ridiculous - it plays like clay.

Madrid won't be much better next year, either. Their MS tournament's surface is also horrible.

GrandSlam05
Nov 5th, 2005, 01:47 AM
Was the surface this slow in '99 when Linds won? If so, I was wondering how she would win it especially since she's fitter now.
I guess the advantage over clay is that her footing will be better/less slippery.

Ty-Ty
Nov 5th, 2005, 01:55 AM
I was watching last years match against Serena and wow, the courts ARE sickingly slow.

I never really thought them to be that extremley slow.

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 01:57 AM
Was the surface this slow in '99 when Linds won? If so, I was wondering how she would win it especially since she's fitter now.
I guess the advantage over clay is that her footing will be better/less slippery.
No. The MSG surface was a pretty normal indoor court.

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 02:00 AM
I was watching last years match against Serena and wow, the courts ARE sickingly slow.

I never really thought them to be that extremley slow.
That match was really funny, too. It was the battle of who cared the least, and in the third set Serena was pretty much just like "fuck it".

Lindsay needs to take the YEC seriously again. And get over the avian flu.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 5th, 2005, 02:17 AM
Why did they move the event from MSG? Wasn't it well established with good crowds?

I've never seen a match there. :sad:

GrandSlam05
Nov 5th, 2005, 02:18 AM
LOL I just looked up the article about how she thumped Hingis 6-4 6-2 in '99. Ick, why can't they play on a surface like that. You'd think such a big event in America would not be on a surface slow enough for dirt-ballers! :fiery:
I wish I had started following tennis sooner, I haven't seen any of Lindsay's slam wins. :mad:

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 02:27 AM
Why did they move the event from MSG? Wasn't it well established with good crowds?

I've never seen a match there. :sad:
That was the stupidest thing the WTA has done in recent years. MSG got the crowds and delivered a good product. But, WTA wanted "globalization". So, they gave the "You've been amazing, profitable, and great for us, but we need to have you fuck off" to MSG, and moved it to Munich - which screamed disaster right off the bat. Moving to LA was actually a positive step. But, the WTA being the screwed up thing it is, just doesn't get how to market it or how to make it work, and it's been a total failure.

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 02:29 AM
LOL I just looked up the article about how she thumped Hingis 6-4 6-2 in '99. Ick, why can't they play on a surface like that. You'd think such a big event in America would not be on a surface slow enough for dirt-ballers! :fiery:
I wish I had started following tennis sooner, I haven't seen any of Lindsay's slam wins. :mad:
That was a great match.

I don't know. The surface could be faster now. We won't know until play actually starts.

Ty-Ty
Nov 5th, 2005, 02:33 AM
That match was really funny, too. It was the battle of who cared the least, and in the third set Serena was pretty much just like "fuck it".

Lindsay needs to take the YEC seriously again. And get over the avian flu.

The handshake was pretty pathetic. They were pretty much leaving as they were shaking hands.

Ty-Ty
Nov 5th, 2005, 03:24 AM
And I agree about the title.

It should be something like, "WHAMBAM, NEXTBESTTHINGTOASLAM" Or something like that. ;)

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 03:31 AM
You're all going to have to do more if you want to convince me.

Lindsayfan32
Nov 5th, 2005, 05:35 AM
Well, if she plays Kim in the semis, I just don't see her winning that. This surface is really ridiculous - it plays like clay.

Madrid won't be much better next year, either. Their MS tournament's surface is also horrible.

Andrew you have a short memory Lindsay beat Kim the last time they played on clay. Remeber the French open from a set and 4-1 down if I remeber corretly. Also isn't this event played on an indoor hard court the last time heard. Why are you so hung up on Lindsay finishing the year number 1 anyway. Kim is very deserving of it if she overtakes Lindsay as long as Maria doesn't get it I'm happy. Number two a good place to start next year on.

Elldee
Nov 5th, 2005, 09:38 AM
Andrew you have a short memory Lindsay beat Kim the last time they played on clay. Remeber the French open from a set and 4-1 down if I remeber corretly. Also isn't this event played on an indoor hard court the last time heard. Why are you so hung up on Lindsay finishing the year number 1 anyway. Kim is very deserving of it if she overtakes Lindsay as long as Maria doesn't get it I'm happy. Number two a good place to start next year on.

Yes, well if Kim starts playing like a loser and hitting all her forehands wide and long and into the net again then I'm sure Lindsay can win. If, however, that doesn't happen, this surface is a huge disadvantage to Lindsay.

I'm not confident that the surface will be any quicker... it was as slow in 2003 as in 2004... and who won in 2003? The Kimster. Lindsay had to do some tricky half volleys against Dementieva last year off balls that Dementieva would not have gotten back on a 'normal' court.

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 12:58 PM
Andrew you have a short memory Lindsay beat Kim the last time they played on clay. Remeber the French open from a set and 4-1 down if I remeber corretly. Also isn't this event played on an indoor hard court the last time heard. Why are you so hung up on Lindsay finishing the year number 1 anyway. Kim is very deserving of it if she overtakes Lindsay as long as Maria doesn't get it I'm happy. Number two a good place to start next year on.
Well, you're wrong. Kim was up 6-1 3-1, and yes, Lindsay came back, but hello - that match was possibly the ugliest match Lindsay has won this year. If she hit the ball into Kim's forehand after the first set, that thing was going out 80% of the time. I actually rewatched that match this past week, and when I recorded it, I was too excited to care about the quality of play. But when I rewatched it, I noticed that it was a really, really awful match.

This "indoor hardcourt" plays like clay. It's not even funny how slow it is.

I don't care about Kim. The last time I checked, there were no KIM! support threads in this forum. Don't care, don't care, don't care. If you want to say how deserving she is of #1, and just how super KIM! is in general, then go to the CCL or GM and post your words of encouragement there. In these threads, we talk about Lindsay and #1. Not KIM! and how great it would be if she got it.

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 01:00 PM
Yes, well if Kim starts playing like a loser and hitting all her forehands wide and long and into the net again then I'm sure Lindsay can win. If, however, that doesn't happen, this surface is a huge disadvantage to Lindsay.

I'm not confident that the surface will be any quicker... it was as slow in 2003 as in 2004... and who won in 2003? The Kimster. Lindsay had to do some tricky half volleys against Dementieva last year off balls that Dementieva would not have gotten back on a 'normal' court.
Yes, yes and yes.

And to me last year, Lindsay showed that she just doesn't care about the event, which kind of worries me. Her attitude in the Myskina match and the Serena match were horrible.

mike/topgun
Nov 5th, 2005, 03:30 PM
I thought that in Staples the court surface is like hard or so... :retard: :help: it can't be as slow as clay in Warsaw :scratch: :lol:
but the fact is Lindsay doesn't care bout YEC that much recently:ignore:
She has a great timing and fantastic coordination so she can win anywhere :lick: :sport:
I really always enjoyed watchin' her play :p at this specifical event becouse she is one of the best (if not the best :bowdown: ) players indoors ever and it'd be kinda disappointing not to see Linds in the finals... :smash:
I do hope she recovers from the flu and finds her best form or at least the one she showed in Zurich final to end up yeaer at a high significant note :bigclap: :yeah: :tennis: Epecially the whole event is nearby her hometown of Laguna Beach :cool: when it's a prilvilage to beat the world class players in a world class event, held in such a beautiful place like southern California :p :sport: :rolleyes: :devil: :bounce: :worship:
I expect Linds shows up in Staples :bounce: :wavey: & no injuries anymore :banghead:

!<blocparty>!
Nov 5th, 2005, 03:42 PM
Yeah, OK.

How annoying, a smilie queen.

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 03:54 PM
I can't bother responding one more time saying how slowly the court plays. It's obvious if you've ever seen any matches there, and I'm assuming some people who have posted in this thread have not.

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 03:54 PM
Yeah, OK.

How annoying, a smilie queen.
Sigh.

Kelly
Nov 5th, 2005, 04:17 PM
and the camera angle at SC sucks to....personally i think its a crap venue.

lindsayno1
Nov 5th, 2005, 06:41 PM
lol well yeh last year lindsays attitude sucked/...sucked as hard as those chavvy gold hoops she wore.

BUT this year, she didnt wanna play the FO, but showed a lot of fight to win on the slowest surface ever AND against Kim....

So who knows what frame of mind the dav is gonna show up in.
I want some good tennis here....

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 07:05 PM
and the camera angle at SC sucks to....personally i think its a crap venue.
It makes the court look freakishly wide and short.

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 07:06 PM
lol well yeh last year lindsays attitude sucked/...sucked as hard as those chavvy gold hoops she wore.

BUT this year, she didnt wanna play the FO, but showed a lot of fight to win on the slowest surface ever AND against Kim....

So who knows what frame of mind the dav is gonna show up in.
I want some good tennis here....
I don't think it's a good sign that she pulled from Phili. That tells me that she's kind of done for the year.

Oh well. Bring Leach with her so that she has some hobbies.

LindsayRulez
Nov 5th, 2005, 07:10 PM
I don't think it's a good sign that she pulled from Phili. That tells me that she's kind of done for the year.

Oh well. Bring Leach with her so that she has some hobbies.

I think she's looking forward to the fight for #1. We know she says she doesn't care about it, but we also know that she really does. Some would say that if she really cared about it, she would have showed up at Philly (and easily have won), but maybe this will be better in the long run. She should be practicing on slow courts instead of the ones at Philly anyway.

mike/topgun
Nov 5th, 2005, 08:29 PM
I can't bother responding one more time saying how slowly the court plays. It's obvious if you've ever seen any matches there, and I'm assuming some people who have posted in this thread have not.
I'm so sorry :o
You don't have to respond again Andrew ;) Actually I've watched almost every single game played there :rolleyes: I know that court in Staples Center is slow :yawn: but IMHO it isn't any slower than courts in NY...(Elena D. runs unbelievably fast on court :silly: )
Although, the feeling I had watching it last 3 years, it was obviously not as fast as the court in Filderstadt or even Zurich (both played on decoturf II)
The teevee camera view is hilarious :scared: I'd prefer the gray court in Zurich to what they're tryin' to show in LA :scratch: - in this perspective :devil:
Lindsay is strong on every surface (if in cool mind set and phisical form) :bounce:
Never mind :cuckoo: :hatoff:

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 09:57 PM
I think she's looking forward to the fight for #1. We know she says she doesn't care about it, but we also know that she really does. Some would say that if she really cared about it, she would have showed up at Philly (and easily have won), but maybe this will be better in the long run. She should be practicing on slow courts instead of the ones at Philly anyway.
You think she's actually practicing at the Staples Center right now? :p

Andrew..
Nov 5th, 2005, 09:58 PM
I'm so sorry :o
You don't have to respond again Andrew ;) Actually I've watched almost every single game played there :rolleyes: I know that court in Staples Center is slow :yawn: but IMHO it isn't any slower than courts in NY...(Elena D. runs unbelievably fast on court :silly: )
Although, the feeling I had watching it last 3 years, it was obviously not as fast as the court in Filderstadt or even Zurich (both played on decoturf II)
The teevee camera view is hilarious :scared: I'd prefer the gray court in Zurich to what they're tryin' to show in LA :scratch: - in this perspective :devil:
Lindsay is strong on every surface (if in cool mind set and phisical form) :bounce:
Never mind :cuckoo: :hatoff:
It's the slowest indoor court I've ever seen. It makes Moscow look fast.

What does Dementieva have anything to do with this.

mike/topgun
Nov 5th, 2005, 11:06 PM
It's the slowest indoor court I've ever seen. It makes Moscow look fast.

What does Dementieva have anything to do with this.
Lindsay played Elena a bunch of times (on indoor and outdoor, on slow as well fast courts) and the Russian Girl always managed to run down some incredible shots from Lindsay - like in NY'05, Amelia Island '03, MASTERS in MSG '00(on supreme indoor - really quite fast...) :lick: :mad:
From the fact Dementieva will be playing in LA it seems she's one of the strongest opponents Dav may face in group stage :tape:
However, if Lindsay plays well (in "good mood") she can beat anyone on any surface (Wimbledon, -less in RG- Vs Kim or in Indian Wells with Maria)
I' m very positive bout Lindsays' chances on winning the event :hehehe: :yeah: :bounce:
P.S.
In Moscow, they play on some kind of taraflex (or other specified surface) which bounces balls higher than hard, grass or clay court :lol: Playing there, or in Vienna, is much slower than anywhere else...and in my mind, the court in Staples, isn't that slow at all :devil: :bigwave: :shrug: :)

!<blocparty>!
Nov 5th, 2005, 11:27 PM
Sigh.

Ty-Ty
Nov 6th, 2005, 12:18 AM
When do we know the groups?

gsm
Nov 6th, 2005, 01:31 AM
the tour champs are on Decoturf, rated as medium/medium fast by the itf.

http://www.itftennis.com/abouttheitf/rulesregs/courtlist.asp

Andrew..
Nov 6th, 2005, 02:48 AM
Lindsay played Elena a bunch of times (on indoor and outdoor, on slow as well fast courts) and the Russian Girl always managed to run down some incredible shots from Lindsay - like in NY'05, Amelia Island '03, MASTERS in MSG '00(on supreme indoor - really quite fast...) :lick: :mad:
From the fact Dementieva will be playing in LA it seems she's one of the strongest opponents Dav may face in group stage :tape:
However, if Lindsay plays well (in "good mood") she can beat anyone on any surface (Wimbledon, -less in RG- Vs Kim or in Indian Wells with Maria)
I' m very positive bout Lindsays' chances on winning the event :hehehe: :yeah: :bounce:
P.S.
In Moscow, they play on some kind of taraflex (or other specified surface) which bounces balls higher than hard, grass or clay court :lol: Playing there, or in Vienna, is much slower than anywhere else...and in my mind, the court in Staples, isn't that slow at all :devil: :bigwave: :shrug: :)
Wow. That was obnoxious.

I still don't understand why you bring Dementieva into this as a serious part of the equation. She's one of seven other players Lindsay might have to play, and I would not consider her one of the elite in the group.

And I'm none arguing about the court surface. Players have said the court is retarded, commentators have pointed out how slowly it plays, and other posters have commented on how slow it is. I'm done arguing with n00bs about it.

Andrew..
Nov 6th, 2005, 02:49 AM
the tour champs are on Decoturf, rated as medium/medium fast by the itf.

http://www.itftennis.com/abouttheitf/rulesregs/courtlist.asp
That means nothing. Carpet is "fast", and we've all seen Moscow.

gsm
Nov 6th, 2005, 06:55 AM
That means nothing. Carpet is "fast", and we've all seen Moscow.
i should have added in my original post; "make of this what you will..." :)

Elldee
Nov 6th, 2005, 10:34 AM
ITF have been smoking something.

The camera angle makes it look like the court is actually sloped at a 45 degree angle, the ball looks like it gets stuck to the gloopy surface for a couple of second before bouncing and all the matches have a surreal quality because of this.

Ingokoer
Nov 6th, 2005, 03:00 PM
On german Eurosport, the commentator said, the surface in Philadelphia is the same as in L.A. , that's why many players use this tournmanent as surface preparation for LA. And Lindsay did win the Philadelphia title 2 times, so I think there is no reason to think so negative regarding the results for Lindsay at LA.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 6th, 2005, 03:21 PM
Sigh.

Andrew..
Nov 6th, 2005, 04:30 PM
On german Eurosport, the commentator said, the surface in Philadelphia is the same as in L.A. , that's why many players use this tournmanent as surface preparation for LA. And Lindsay did win the Philadelphia title 2 times, so I think there is no reason to think so negative regarding the results for Lindsay at LA.
The Philadelphia venue changed between the last time Lindsay played it and now. It used to be much faster in the 90s.

Ty-Ty
Nov 6th, 2005, 05:29 PM
When do we know the groups?

:help:

Andrew..
Nov 6th, 2005, 06:33 PM
When the draw comes out on Monday.

Ty-Ty
Nov 6th, 2005, 07:13 PM
Oh. Well, since play doesn't start till' Wednesay, I didn't know.

Elldee
Nov 6th, 2005, 10:30 PM
We get live coverage at 2am on Wednesday morning, so assumably it's a Tuesday evening start?

I was hoping the groups'd be out today :(

Andrew..
Nov 6th, 2005, 10:32 PM
We get live coverage at 2am on Wednesday morning, so assumably it's a Tuesday evening start?

I was hoping the groups'd be out today :(
If I recall correctly, last year the groups came out on Sunday night. Though, it could have been Monday night. I'm not sure.

And yes, the first match is on Tuesday night.

LindsayRulez
Nov 6th, 2005, 10:39 PM
The YEC website says they will announce the groups today.

Andrew..
Nov 6th, 2005, 10:40 PM
I was just going to post this.

Though, that's west coast time, so I doubt anyone on the east coast will see the groups before 10.

Elldee
Nov 6th, 2005, 10:40 PM
Cool beans.

I wish they'd take that bint Venus off the website!

Andrew..
Nov 6th, 2005, 10:43 PM
The only players featured on the site are Maria and Venus. Considering one didn't even qualify, I find that hysterical.

Though, they are marketing to the LA area.

RayRob
Nov 7th, 2005, 12:51 AM
Well, I'm looking forward to YEC now.....especially since I know work hours cant interfere with the tennis!

Plus, it's a great opportunity to try out my new HDD/DVD recorder. I tried to record some stuff from tape to HDD today but it came out black and white - gonna have to sort that one out.

Anyway, the draw should be out by the time i wake up later today as it's past midnight as i type this. With the other 6 players (ex. kim) it doesn't really matter who Lindsay draws, she should qualify for the semi's fairly easy, health permitting....the field is weak to say the least this year.....

-Rache

Andrew..
Nov 7th, 2005, 01:01 AM
Well, I'm looking forward to YEC now.....especially since I know work hours cant interfere with the tennis!

Plus, it's a great opportunity to try out my new HDD/DVD recorder. I tried to record some stuff from tape to HDD today but it came out black and white - gonna have to sort that one out.

Anyway, the draw should be out by the time i wake up later today as it's past midnight as i type this. With the other 6 players (ex. kim) it doesn't really matter who Lindsay draws, she should qualify for the semi's fairly easy, health permitting....the field is weak to say the least this year.....

-Rache
I'll agree with you on this. If Lindsay shows up at around 50%, she really should make the SF without losing a match, and then make the final. Look at the players. Can't play Kim in the RR. Maria is "injured" and in horrible form, Amelie is starting to look better, but her form in Phili was far from extraordinary; Alyona - whatever. I really lack respect for her because her attitude about her serve disgusts me. :p She's a threat when she's playing well, but can lose to anyone on any day. Nadya is actually playing pretty well, but Lindsay can handle her if she's playing okay. Ditto Schnyder. Mary would arguably be the biggest threat, but she hasn't played in a month, and while her comeback in the Moscow QF was phenominal, her form just wasn't all that great. Lindsay really should go 3-0 in RR - should. If she did that, she probably wouldn't play Kim until the final.

Ugh, I really want Lindsay to do well here. In many ways, I consider the YEC just as important as a slam. It's a tournament she really should care about.

LindsayRulez
Nov 7th, 2005, 01:54 AM
Okay, so Lindsay is in the GREEN group with Sharapova, Schnyder and Petrova. I'd say I'm pretty happy with this, as the only person I didn't want in her group was Mary Pierce (and I also hate Lindsay playing Dementieva because something always goes wrong!)

jacs
Nov 7th, 2005, 02:03 AM
Wow, the negativity in this thread is thick. Please try not to be rude to each other, people.

Kelly
Nov 7th, 2005, 02:24 AM
question. why do the groups have colours?? whay cant they just be called group 1 or 2...or somert else.


anyhoo GO LINDSAY!! yey!! etc

Ty-Ty
Nov 7th, 2005, 02:24 AM
I think that's the best group Lindsay could've hoped for.

Andrew..
Nov 7th, 2005, 03:00 AM
If Lindsay shows up playing decently, and doesn't tank it, she should go 3-0.

Ugh, please pretend to care, Lindsay. :p

GrandSlam05
Nov 7th, 2005, 03:37 AM
I like these groups. Maria is a huge question mark. It's no guarantee she'll even get through the first match.
I hope Demented beats Kim and then tanks in the rest just like she did in Filderstadt.

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 09:09 AM
Great groupings. Start against Petrova... it's a shame Lindsay's the last match as she was last year as she apparently goes to bed about 9pm usually. I actually think the fact the US Open QF this year was a night match was a factor in Lindsay's early sluggishness, whilst Dementieva is known for disliking early matches.

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 09:19 AM
Tuesday, November 8, 2005
STAPLES Center (from 18.00hrs)
1. Clijsters vs. Pierce
2. Sharapova vs. Schnyder (NB 19.30hrs)
3. Davenport vs. Petrova

Wednesday, November 9, 2005
STAPLES Center (from 18.00hrs)
1. Pierce vs. Dementieva
2. Davenport vs. Schnyder (NB 19.30hrs)
3. Mauresmo vs. Clijsters

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 09:23 AM
ALSO, getty images has some Lindsay pics, she's looking well [which'll annoy you Philli-goers] and she's at the staples center... after a basketball match.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 7th, 2005, 09:39 AM
Perfect groups :)

lindsayno1
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:45 AM
i know. couldnt be better. now get another win over maria dammit

lindsayno1
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:49 AM
oh and what the hell is she wearing on those getty pics!! HIDEOUS

RayRob
Nov 7th, 2005, 12:59 PM
A fairly good group for Lindsay. Not a bad opener to play petrova.....perhaps a good match just for lindsay to get her bearings and the like.

I think i will stay up all night to watch it...i wanna take a look at kim and maria just to see what sort of form their in.

-Rache

dav abu
Nov 7th, 2005, 01:09 PM
It says on the site that on Tuesday its Lindsay V Petrova and on Wednesday Lindsay V Schnyder-when will Lindsay face Maria?

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 04:12 PM
A fairly good group for Lindsay. Not a bad opener to play petrova.....perhaps a good match just for lindsay to get her bearings and the like.

I think i will stay up all night to watch it...i wanna take a look at kim and maria just to see what sort of form their in.

-Rache

Last year I just watched Lindsay live and the others in the taped day stuff but Pierce/Clijsters could be a cracking match.

Frederic
Nov 7th, 2005, 07:32 PM
Last year I just watched Lindsay live and the others in the taped day stuff but Pierce/Clijsters could be a cracking match.
Wow!!!I absolutely desagree! To be honest, Mary has no weapons against Kim... I just expect 6/0 6/3 or something like that.

Frederic
Nov 7th, 2005, 07:33 PM
I really think Lindsay can win her matches in her group. Next, she can win against Kim, I really believe in her chances.

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 07:41 PM
Wow!!!I absolutely desagree! To be honest, Mary has no weapons against Kim... I just expect 6/0 6/3 or something like that.

Mary made so many horrible errors and served badly in the US Open final... let's hope that doesn't happen again. I don't expect Mary to win, but I'd love to see a high quality match.

Andrew..
Nov 7th, 2005, 09:32 PM
No weapons? :retard:

If Mary plays her best, she wins that.

Though, that happens like once a year, so I still expect 3 and 4 for KIM!.

But to say Mary has no weapons against her is ridiculous.

joaco
Nov 7th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Nice group Lindsay had. I'm not to happy about Lindsay playing Sharapova last... I'd rather have her playing her first....but whatever. Lindsay should win all matches. And it would be great if she started off with two wins. That would totally take the pressure off her against Sharapova. I'm really speculating. I just hope she's healthy and plays her best. GO LINDSAY!!

Joaco

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:16 PM
I hope they've set up a similar day to the one last year where they went racing and we get some pics too... that'd rock.

I think Frederic was suggesting that Mary has no real weapons against Kim in particular, but that still doesn't make sense... Mary has a better serve and better strokes but the movement difference is crucial as well as how many errors Mary produces.

Lindsay has cared about every tournement this year, why should she stop now? She looked completely uninterested only once this year and that was at the French and even then she fought back continually, even down 5-0 against Pierce. If Lindsay's healthy I expected her to give the Champs a really good stab.

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:27 PM
They've changed Venus to Lindsay on the YEC site. Woo! Bad pic, though.

Andrew..
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:41 PM
Lolz. Finally.

I don't think it's that bad of a pic, though.

Lindsayfan32
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:42 PM
I really think Lindsay can win her matches in her group. Next, she can win against Kim, I really believe in her chances.

Totally agree with you there Frederic. Its great the year end ranking might go down to the last match of the year and with the group Lindsay's in she should make the semis without dropping a match if she's fit. If Kim takes the the year end 1 she very deserving of it so I'm happy either way as I like both of them and both are worthy of the year end 1.

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:44 PM
Lolz. Finally.

I don't think it's that bad of a pic, though.
12 years of Lindsay squinting in the sun has given her bad lines. I like the happiness in the pic, though. I think Lindsay's gonna be confident of doing well at the champs... we'll see how good her mentality is against KIM! though.

Andrew..
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:51 PM
12 years of Lindsay squinting in the sun has given her bad lines. I like the happiness in the pic, though. I think Lindsay's gonna be confident of doing well at the champs... we'll see how good her mentality is against KIM! though.
KIM! is always an issue. Lindsay was clearly the better player at Wimbly, and she had a major braincramp in the second set (though, I still say that shot on MP #1 was close enough to be in).

I won't tolerate a loss to Maria though. Lindsay's shown there's no issue there mentally. If she loses that, it's because she's playing like crap, or tanks and laughs at herself like she did at Wimbledon. No excuses for that one. 6-0 6-0. Repeats.

Elldee
Nov 7th, 2005, 10:57 PM
Yeah, that head to head MUST be levelled and I won't be happy if she doesn't reclaim HER title at Pan Pacific.

Andrew..
Nov 7th, 2005, 11:08 PM
She should be leading this H2H at least 2-1, but, I won't bring up that day where she smiled and laughed at herself, while I tossed things at the television.

:p

Kelly
Nov 7th, 2005, 11:37 PM
tossed things AT the tv......i tossed the bloody tv.

RayRob
Nov 8th, 2005, 12:43 AM
They've changed Venus to Lindsay on the YEC site. Woo! Bad pic, though.

I just gone to the site and it's still Venus and Maria (wtachamps.com). Which site are you looking at?

-Rache

Andrew..
Nov 8th, 2005, 01:50 AM
I just gone to the site and it's still Venus and Maria (wtachamps.com). Which site are you looking at?

-Rache
You have to empty your cache for it to change, probably.

Andrew..
Nov 8th, 2005, 01:55 AM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20051108/capt.cars10111080141.wta_tour_cars101.jpg

Cute top.

Ty-Ty
Nov 8th, 2005, 01:58 AM
I don't like that picture very much. I could point out 563583484 things wrong with it. But she does look genuinely happy, so that's ok. :)

And I have a feeling that Mary's going to beat KIM!. Other than Wimbledon, Mary hasn't lost in a final other than the FO and USO. And Mary straight setted Justine, granted Justine's serve did not attend that match. I think if Mary serves well, she beats KIM!.

Just an odd feeling.

Andand, I have a fun fact. In the most previous six sets Lindsay has played against the three players in her group, half of those sets have been bagels.

GrandSlam05
Nov 8th, 2005, 02:04 AM
Andrew when did she laugh at herself? Was it at Wimbledon? I didn't start watching tennis heavily until US open '04. I'd really like to see that match (just the first set and a half). Did she laugh at herself during the match or after?
And yes, I would've tossed the TV too. Judging by what I've read, that Wimbledon was hers, even more so than this year (which I watched).

GrandSlam05
Nov 8th, 2005, 02:08 AM
At least Lindsay is smiling. Maria looks like like somebody forgot the lube.

LindsayRocks89
Nov 8th, 2005, 02:09 AM
i am already excited to see Lindsay vs. Maria since i missed her destroy Maria at Indian Wells thanks to my stupid DVR.

of course most of us pry think Kimmie is the biggest threat, but If Lindsay actually takes this tournament seriously i think she will beat Kim

Also, off subject a little, but do you guys think now that kim has won a slam, will she be mentally tough in big matches now or will she still Lose it mentally when the match is close in a big tournament like the YEC's.

Elldee
Nov 8th, 2005, 09:13 AM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20051108/capt.cars10111080141.wta_tour_cars101.jpg

Cute top.

Cute girl.

There's lots of interviews done yesterday with similar quotes about the battle for number one, but this one, I like; "I feel like I've never really played all that well at Staples, and I'd like to change that," said Davenport, a four-time finalist who has won the season-ending championships once.

lindsayno1
Nov 8th, 2005, 09:40 AM
oh GOOD some positivity at last. I like the YEC pic on the site. Its from wimbledon last year. Tell me one tennis player who hasnt got bad skin. Even Vaidisova has dark pigmentation areas on her face and neck!

Loughyunijen
Nov 8th, 2005, 11:37 AM
what time is Lindsays game today UK time?

Loughyunijen
Nov 8th, 2005, 11:46 AM
Looks like Dav is at the Staples centre watching more sport.....she better watch out she doesnt get another dose of the "flu"!

Loughyunijen
Nov 8th, 2005, 11:47 AM
And who the feck is the ugly mother mama she is with....eughhhh he was enough to put me of my coco pops!

Loughyunijen
Nov 8th, 2005, 11:48 AM
Also just casue im on a roll......BAD top Lindsay....think my granny has someting similar!

Elldee
Nov 8th, 2005, 12:45 PM
It's 'Murphy Jensen', a presenter for the tennis channel... I'd like to know what she said. I don't know if Lindsay actually watched any sport in those pics, but may have just practiced or something.

fnuf7
Nov 8th, 2005, 01:56 PM
Ooo I like that grouping, especially if you look at the other group. Lindsay's is much better - well on paper anyway...
Her hair looks good in that pic, not sure about the top though...

Magdalene
Nov 8th, 2005, 04:06 PM
CNN interviewed Lindsay.. caught like bout the last minute or so only... Did anyone catch it?

Loughyunijen
Nov 8th, 2005, 05:05 PM
CNN interviewed Lindsay.. caught like bout the last minute or so only... Did anyone catch it?

Yeah I luckily flicked over to CNN about 3/4 mins before it started! Was just an average interview nothing special that she hasnt already said before! I think she's pretty hyped up for it and as usual moaned on how the season is way too long!

I was a bit worried about the last question though.....She really ddint seem too thrilled to be saying "yaa sure im well up for next season"! it was a case of..."If i'm healthy and still enjoying it...ill take it from there!" She has that question to a tee now- prob still has wimbledon 2004 nightmeres!

i think there alot of question marks over Lindsays schedule next year..infact I think it would all depend on the YEC's.....if she nails it I think it would give her the motivation to give it one last shot!

Andrew..
Nov 8th, 2005, 06:30 PM
Andrew when did she laugh at herself? Was it at Wimbledon? I didn't start watching tennis heavily until US open '04. I'd really like to see that match (just the first set and a half). Did she laugh at herself during the match or after?
And yes, I would've tossed the TV too. Judging by what I've read, that Wimbledon was hers, even more so than this year (which I watched).
She pulled what was probably the biggest tank I've ever seen from her in recent memory, and was laughing during the match.

Wow. I still can't talk about that one without anger. :p

Andrew..
Nov 8th, 2005, 07:20 PM
"It would make the year even more special," Clijsters said.

"If being the year-end number one was my main goal, I would have entered more tournaments. If it happens, great. If it doesn't, that's not going to make my year worse."


I find that hysterical. Considering she usually plays nearly 30 tournaments a season, and plans on doing so again next year.

mike/topgun
Nov 8th, 2005, 07:33 PM
KIM! is always an issue. Lindsay was clearly the better player at Wimbly, and she had a major braincramp in the second set (though, I still say that shot on MP #1 was close enough to be in).

I won't tolerate a loss to Maria though. Lindsay's shown there's no issue there mentally. If she loses that, it's because she's playing like crap, or tanks and laughs at herself like she did at Wimbledon. No excuses for that one. 6-0 6-0. Repeats.
- it lookd like it was landing right on the outside of the line :drool: but the third set -with ease- was Dav's :cool:
-it's a case of the so called "Wimbledon '04 revenge"...be kind to Maria as Lindsay is :bounce: let's give to Masha her 2 games... :devil: :lol:
Although,on paper it shold be the most exciting encounter in the tournament :lick: :worship:
However, imho, Lindsay has chances like 55-45% to win & earn the #1 rank at th end of the season.Why? becouse Kim is strong ( but, more than her rivals, will be tired after such an exhausting year and "self-crippling" game style she presented past months ) :rolleyes: :p ;) :bounce:

tennisboi
Nov 8th, 2005, 08:42 PM
What time around will Lindsays match start on BMT?

Andrew..
Nov 8th, 2005, 08:48 PM
What is BMT.

tennisboi
Nov 8th, 2005, 08:51 PM
British mean time, or GMT.

Andrew..
Nov 8th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Probably at around 4 am for you guys.

fnuf7
Nov 8th, 2005, 09:16 PM
Does anyone have any actual idea of the state Sharapova is in? Like an official interview with her or something, cos I'm not sure if maybe her injury is being talked up by others who aren't "in the know" or if her injuries are 'real' whether she's actually going to be able to take part in YEC. I would love to see a fully fit Lindsay vs fully fit Sharapova, I just think their matches so far have been v entertaining (particularly a certain 6-0, 6-0 one...;) )

Andrew..
Nov 8th, 2005, 09:18 PM
I think she's fine. I've never fully bought into her "injury".

The fact is, she's an average 5-10 ranked player. She was grossly overranked earlier this year. But, all you need to get there on the WTA now is to be healthy 90% of the time, and make the SFs of most of your tournaments. She did that, but now her ranking is going to fall like a rock.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 8th, 2005, 09:34 PM
"It would make the year even more special," Clijsters said.

"If being the year-end number one was my main goal, I would have entered more tournaments. If it happens, great. If it doesn't, that's not going to make my year worse."


I find that hysterical. Considering she usually plays nearly 30 tournaments a season, and plans on doing so again next year.

:haha: Oh Kim.

Didn't she make comments when she came back that her schedule was going to be much more limited? OK, she's cut down on the doubles, but is going to be playing everywhere to whore up points next year, no?

mike/topgun
Nov 8th, 2005, 09:58 PM
What time around will Lindsays match start on BMT?
it's about 5.00 am :) coz don't think Masha Vs Patty will play less than an hour and 15-30 minutes :angel: :lol:

Ty-Ty
Nov 8th, 2005, 11:52 PM
I'm guessing since it says 'Taped', they're going to be showing Pierce and Clijsters and not Lindsay and Petrova on ESPN2? Anyone know for sure?

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 12:13 AM
:haha: Oh Kim.

Didn't she make comments when she came back that her schedule was going to be much more limited? OK, she's cut down on the doubles, but is going to be playing everywhere to whore up points next year, no?
Yes. She said she would play only the slams and tier I's when she came back at Antwerp. KIM! is so honest.

Her schedule next year is ridiculous. I believe she's playing the first 17 out of 20 weeks. If she busts her wrist open again, I'll laugh.

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 12:14 AM
I'm guessing since it says 'Taped', they're going to be showing Pierce and Clijsters and not Lindsay and Petrova on ESPN2? Anyone know for sure?
They're not showing Pierce Clijsters on ESPN2 at all. Retarded move, IMO.

They're showing Maria Patty taped at midnight tonight, and Lindsay taped tomorrow afternoon. Then Lindsay live tomorrow night.

Ty-Ty
Nov 9th, 2005, 02:20 AM
Wow, what a stupid move. That's probably going to be one of the most, interesting competetive matches.

lindsayno1
Nov 9th, 2005, 02:31 AM
wow. stuck in uni room with no tv. kim gets breadsticked. what!!!.....

Ty-Ty
Nov 9th, 2005, 02:32 AM
Maybe not. KIM! is getting schooled.

GrandSlam05
Nov 9th, 2005, 02:46 AM
OMG go ScaryMary!

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 02:50 AM
Clijsters' is playing like chicken shit. But, she's starting to come out of it.

I still think there's only a 50/50 shot Mahree wins this, even now.

Jeez though, Mahree is serving like dynamite tonight.

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:04 AM
I still think there's only a 50/50 shot Mahree wins this, even now.
Ugh. I so called this one. :p

Ty-Ty
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:05 AM
Ugh. I so called this one. :p


Way to go out on a limb. :p

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:12 AM
Everyone else in this forum was going "Mary kicking ass! Kim going down!". K.

Ty-Ty
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:16 AM
It's not ova till it's ova.

Ty-Ty
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:19 AM
Nevermind, sounds like Mary's going into a comma. DFDFDF.

I'll just go to bed and hope.

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:21 AM
Anyway, as KIM! bullshits out another win, I will wait for Lindsay's match to commence.

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:23 AM
And that live scoring thread juftifies my complete dislike of many KIM! fans, and why I mock them constantly.

"Go KIMMIE!!!111" was one of the posts. Exactly like that.

:vomits:

Ty-Ty
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:26 AM
Wasn't that you? :p

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:37 AM
Wasn't that you? :p
No. I haven't trolled much in that thread. That was a legit KIM! fan who posted that.

Ty-Ty
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:46 AM
There's so many Kim fans, some have to be idiots. lalwz!!111

Anyway, someone tell me Mary's reaction when she rolls Kims ass. I'm going to bed.

GrandSlam05
Nov 9th, 2005, 04:04 AM
MARY WINS! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 04:04 AM
Well, I eat my words. And I'm happy about it! :D

Mary :banana:

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 04:28 AM
Some fun #1 scenarios now.

If KIM! loses a set in any of her next two matches, there's a good chance she won't make the SF.

In that case, if Lindsay makes the SF, she's #1.

Exciting stuff. :)

Worst case scenario would be Lindsay coming in #1 in her group, and Kim at #2 in hers. That would mean they play in the SF. :scared:

GrandSlam05
Nov 9th, 2005, 05:18 AM
Thanks for the info.
Also, the good news is that Kimmie is still capable of choking.

Lindsayfan32
Nov 9th, 2005, 06:20 AM
And that live scoring thread juftifies my complete dislike of many KIM! fans, and why I mock them constantly.

"Go KIMMIE!!!111" was one of the posts. Exactly like that.

:vomits:

Andrew have you ever tried mocking Maria fans it more fun as they rise to it like no man's business!! Try it I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I can't do it to Kim as I like her no as much as Lindsay though.

chewy
Nov 9th, 2005, 09:34 AM
i've unable to lock in d last few weeks...was only able to log in once or twice in many attemps, so im here n i gotta cheer for Lindsay!!! im really happy she won in straight sets against petrova, keep winning!!

Lindsayfan32
Nov 9th, 2005, 09:43 AM
I had to our out a 4-0 in the first set sounds like a great win. Let hope Lindsay can keep this up!!

tennisboi
Nov 9th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Just saw Lindsays result-nice one girl! Especially great to get out of it in two sets!!

chewy
Nov 9th, 2005, 09:44 AM
sry abt postin twice...but i want to correct my msg. i can't edit cos it'll log me out automatically

i've unable to log in d last few weeks...was only able to log in once or twice in many attemps, so im here n i gotta cheer for Lindsay!!! im really happy she won in straight sets against petrova, keep winning!! :D

lindsayno1
Nov 9th, 2005, 09:47 AM
everyone bar lindsay has played 3 setters

chewy
Nov 9th, 2005, 09:47 AM
shame aussie tv don't show d wta YEC... its seem very good matches from both groups and i want watch especially whn lindsay is winning. ><

Nikki
Nov 9th, 2005, 09:57 AM
Good 1st win Lindsay, keep the straight set wins coming:bounce:

Loughyunijen
Nov 9th, 2005, 10:38 AM
Lindsay really didnt play that well. I just watched the match, the first set Nadia was clearly not playing her game, so no surprize in the first set score line, in the 2nd set she picked up her game and at times Lindsay was stuggling for movement. She was also sniffing alot....maybe she did have the "flu" or a really bad cold!

I didnt think dav loked that impressive, sorry guys.

And if Dav plays Mary in the semis (which she has a good chance of), on both thier performances today May, and more so Mary's movement would kill dav!

jacs
Nov 9th, 2005, 11:28 AM
Two quotes I found interesting:

"I learned last year after winning my first match in two sets that it means nothing,'' she said. "I'm not taking anything for granted this year. I've got to get two wins.''


"That really made a difference,'' she said. "I've always struggled a little bit here because there's no backdrop. I lose my depth perception.''

Elldee
Nov 9th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Worst case scenario would be Lindsay coming in #1 in her group, and Kim at #2 in hers. That would mean they play in the SF. :scared:

Indeed.

I hate this surface. HATE!

RayRob
Nov 9th, 2005, 12:26 PM
Two quotes I found interesting:

"I learned last year after winning my first match in two sets that it means nothing,'' she said. "I'm not taking anything for granted this year. I've got to get two wins.''


"That really made a difference,'' she said. "I've always struggled a little bit here because there's no backdrop. I lose my depth perception.''

you know, I never thought of that...it must make a difference having a load of people behind you on ground level as opposed to about 15 feet up behind you.

Well, I ended up falling asleep between end of Patty/Maria match and the start of the second set in Lindsay's match. I thought from what I saw, Lindsay played great! She won service games easily and she was painting the lines.

I watched a certain double bagel match for the first time the other day and many people said Lindsay played great in that - but i didn't think so....so, compared to that Lindsay played excellent in the second set against Petrova. Like I say, I can't comment on the first set as I was in the land of nod....

-Rache

joaco
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:03 PM
WTG Lindz... It's always good to start off with a win. I think she will improve her level as the tournament goes on.
Today is Patty.... a MUST win match. Hope she plays better than the Zurich final though....

JOaco :wavey:

dav abu
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:40 PM
How do you guys feel about the next match? I'm quite anxious about it as the surface will suit Patty's style also she gets days when she plays out of her mind and if that happens she is in with a great shot of beating Lindsay.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 9th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Overall, pretty good day. I've yet to see the match. Saw some of Kim Mary on my way out this morning.

Maria won in three? Whatever.

fnuf7
Nov 9th, 2005, 04:02 PM
Excellent set of results so far! Loving the fact that Lindsay and Mary won, so far so good! Go Linds!

!<blocparty>!
Nov 9th, 2005, 04:06 PM
Wow. Best outfit of the year for Lindsay, along with the one we saw for 5 games in Stanford.

Blue :D

Elldee
Nov 9th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Lindsay matches the court. She's too cool for school.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 9th, 2005, 04:54 PM
We look so much better than Maria.

lindsayno1
Nov 9th, 2005, 06:05 PM
where are hte pics?

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 07:36 PM
All of her good friends call her MIA. What a cool girl!

Anyway, a win is a win. Nothing too sticky here.

One of those quotes I have mixed feelings about. "I need two matches." No, dear, you need them all. Remember, you had two matches last year, and we all know what happened there.

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 07:55 PM
I've just been informed that my opinions on KIM! are too harsh, and that I'm simply envious of all her accomplishments and beauty. Thus, I will now only talk about her in the most positive light.

Frederic
Nov 9th, 2005, 08:32 PM
Wow!!! I was totally wrong!! Oh my god!!! Mary just played a very good tennis! Hard hitting... Kim made toooooo much doubles... A good three setter that should give Mary much more confidence... I'm soooo sorry Andrew!! Kill me when you see me!! :o :tape: :tape: :tape: But to be honest, just a few people could have imagined what has happened... On the other hand, Lindsay defeated Nadia. Lindsay didn't play her best, but it was enough... I just hope she will be able to raise her game against Patty, as the surface suits her game better than Lindsay's. Go Lindsay!!!!!

LindsayRulez
Nov 9th, 2005, 08:34 PM
I only saw the tiebreak so far, but it looks to me like she played pretty well! Great serving. I'm also liking the blue, maybe Lindsay is trying to play mind games and blend in with the court...yeah right. Anyway, I'm excited about her playing Patty tonight!

And yeah Rache, everyone said that Lindsay's double bagel against Maria was one of her best performances but it really wasn't. Of course she played AWESOME but it was more of a combination of her playing well and Maria playing like s**t. I would say that the way Lindsay played Kim at Wimbledon this year was way more impressive. Some of those forehands on the run were incredible...

Keep it up, Linds! ;)

RayRob
Nov 9th, 2005, 11:21 PM
Well, I might go bed just now for a couple of hours. I will wake up at 3.30am to see lindsay play....hopefully mary won't go on and on and on again ;)

Go Lindsay

-Rache

Andrew..
Nov 9th, 2005, 11:22 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the surface is a bit faster this year? :shrug:

Ty-Ty
Nov 10th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the surface is a bit faster this year? :shrug:

I don't know. It looked faster in the Patty Mary match, but I didn't see a huge difference in Lindsay's match.

LindsayRocks89
Nov 10th, 2005, 01:56 AM
the surface does seem a little faster, but it still plays ridiculously slow. Good luck against Patty tonight Lindsay!

jacs
Nov 10th, 2005, 02:36 AM
rache - Yeah, I know. I'm not sure if this has come up before though.

andrew - I kinda agree with the two-win thing. On one hand, it's nice that she seems really set on getting to the semis. On the other hand, she WAS able to get two wins last year. Maybe she was thinking "three wins" and slip-said "two" :lol:

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 02:54 AM
If Lindsay wins in straight sets tonight, it's 99% certain she's into the semis.

If Kim loses tonight, Lindsay will be year end #1.

Lindsayfan32
Nov 10th, 2005, 03:09 AM
If Lindsay wins in straight sets tonight, it's 99% certain she's into the semis.

If Kim loses tonight, Lindsay will be year end #1.

One problem Andrew I wouldn't bank on Kiim losing tonight. But it is a point I hadn't thought of. You wolud like to think the fight might go on for a little bit longer.

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 03:12 AM
I agree. The chances of her losing to Amelie are really slim.

But, if it happens, #1. :)

LindsayRulez
Nov 10th, 2005, 03:14 AM
I agree, the court seems a LITTLE bit faster, but it might be due to the camera angle. It's still ridiculous but not as bad as in past years. Lindsay's up in 15 minutes if Mary closes it out in straight sets ;)

Kelly
Nov 10th, 2005, 03:49 AM
i got to bed at 7.40am wednesday morning....then was in work at 2 i was like a zombie. no doubt it will be the same today. i thought lindsay played very well against nadia....but nadia wasnt really all there

LindsayRocks89
Nov 10th, 2005, 05:11 AM
i thought Lindsay played better tonight, although i don't think she should have lost her serve when she did. I hope she destroys Maria tomorrow night. that should be a fun match.

LindsayRulez
Nov 10th, 2005, 06:19 AM
Glad she won, glad Kim's losing, and glad Lindsay should beat Maria tomorrow. All in all, a good day so far!

chewy
Nov 10th, 2005, 08:10 AM
wooohooo go lindsay, keep the wins coming!(in straight set :P)

lindsayno1
Nov 10th, 2005, 08:18 AM
and kim LOST to momo! We are no1!

Lindsayfan32
Nov 10th, 2005, 09:18 AM
and kim LOST to momo! We are no1!

Not quite but its as good as done. Kim can still make the semis but the following has to happen. Kim win her next match in two sets and then hope Momo loses her next two matches. If Kim loses to Elena then Lindsay is year end number 1.

lindsayno1
Nov 10th, 2005, 10:03 AM
awesome

dav abu
Nov 10th, 2005, 10:41 AM
Well done Lindsay and cheers Momo! The ranking is in touching distance.

Elldee
Nov 10th, 2005, 10:52 AM
Not quite but its as good as done. Kim can still make the semis but the following has to happen. Kim win her next match in two sets and then hope Momo loses her next two matches. If Kim loses to Elena then Lindsay is year end number 1.

Elena is very unlikely to beat anyone after her Philli trauma and I think both Amelie and Mary are on a roll... Amelie will be bouyed by her KIM! win.

Glad YE1 is now very probable.

Lindsay doesn't seem concerned about the pace of the court at all [unlike us] and is running for that extra ball that she can get to in order to try and win; great to see.

Elldee
Nov 10th, 2005, 10:56 AM
Both of us got a little sloppy in the second set," Davenport said. "It felt really tiring. I felt like I got to win in two sets."

That's a bit worrying, but at least Lindsay's second on tonight, rather than last, and then gets a day off before the [fingers crossed] semis.

fnuf7
Nov 10th, 2005, 11:02 AM
Hehe! Excellent news, this YEC is going well on all accounts so far :) I knew it was a good idea to bet on Amelie beating Kim! Oh happy days!

Loughyunijen
Nov 10th, 2005, 11:14 AM
Well done Lindsay!

IMO Lindsay played much better today! She always looked in control even though she lost serve sometimes.

I'm also well made up for Momo.....Shes had a rough year and not really won anything major so at least this win over Kim should boost her confidence and hopefully spur her on to train hard over the winter for the start of 2006!

Well done to both Ladies!

Loughyunijen
Nov 10th, 2005, 12:29 PM
Just found this quote on BBC website:

She said: "Both of us got a little sloppy in the second set. It felt really tiring. I felt like I had to win in two sets."

Not realy sure of what to make of it-if it had gone to 3 is she trying to say she would have lost?!

I fear for dav if she has to play 3 setters cause to me she looks like she realy cant be bothered to be out there! I mean if the number 1 ranking is all she wanted then shes pretty much done that and doenst really need to fight to win it.

I wish the fight for number one had gone to the final of the semis of the YEC...but it looks like dav can just tank the tournament now as the YE number 1 is almost definately hers.

Ty-Ty
Nov 10th, 2005, 01:00 PM
I don't know why, but I had a foreboding feeling it was going three when I left after the first. Thank God it didn't.

No. 1 is almost guranteed, is it not? If Momo wins one more match or loses in three?

!<blocparty>!
Nov 10th, 2005, 01:09 PM
I wish the fight for number one had gone to the final of the semis of the YEC...but it looks like dav can just tank the tournament now as the YE number 1 is almost definately hers.

I don't.

bis2806
Nov 10th, 2005, 02:18 PM
What happens if Kim wins in three sets, and Momo loses her next two matches?

tennisboi
Nov 10th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Kim is basically screwed and has to win her last match in straight sets and hope that Momo loses her next two in straight sets.

Frederic
Nov 10th, 2005, 02:45 PM
So glad to see Lindsay playing well!!! Year end n°1 is almost hers!!! Keep playing well!!

joaco
Nov 10th, 2005, 03:03 PM
Well played Lindsay! So glad you're playing today, kick some ASS!!!

lindsayno1
Nov 10th, 2005, 03:18 PM
momo best keep to her side of the bargain!

RayRob
Nov 10th, 2005, 04:21 PM
Go Lindsay..

yep, I agree, I think the surface is a little faster this year by about 25%.....ES commentaors said that Lindsay even mentioned how she thought it was a little faster.

That is good though.....hopefully Lindsay will play a whole match like she's played the first set of her match vs Patty - not like the second set.....

Anyway, off to work now :wavey:

-Rache

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 04:39 PM
The following needs to happen for Lindsay not to be #1:

Kim would have to win her match in straight sets, and Mauresmo would have to lose her next two matches in straight sets. If Mauresmo wins one set, they are in effect "tied", but Mauresmo would go into the SF because of her H2H victory in RR over Kim.

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 04:43 PM
I thought the match last night was scratchy, to say the least. Still, she was fighting alot. In the first set, Schnyder was serving 40-0 up on her serve, and Lindsay broke for the set. In the first set Lindsay also serve very, very well. Second set was just ugly from both players. Not much to say there.

But, she won, and that's what matters.

I kind of wanted a three-set win, so that she would be motivated in her match against Maria. There's really nothing for Lindsay there, except some pride. She's already locked into the semifinals. It's really a dead rubber for her. I'm not sure she knows that though, judging from her post-match comments last night. :p

I really want Lindsay to win tonight, but I just don't think she'll put alot of effort into it. That's not really a bad thing though - saving herself for the semis.

lindsayno1
Nov 10th, 2005, 04:55 PM
i want a good match tonight

!<blocparty>!
Nov 10th, 2005, 06:23 PM
Fellow TOP posters... I have just read on another board, that Andrew.. is training us all to sound like him. By referring to Lindsay as "we", etc.

Please be aware.

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 06:32 PM
Yes, I am clearly THE brainwasher. Please disregard my attempts at oppression and control.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 10th, 2005, 06:41 PM
Maybe this person is obsessed with you, and everyone surrounding you... spending time reading the posts in here.

I never read any other player forums.

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 06:45 PM
I don't either.

Yes, maybe this is the case.

Elldee
Nov 10th, 2005, 07:00 PM
I don't want Sharapova to be up 3-1 H2H; people won't remember that it's a dead match. Plus, ranking points would be nice when Lindsay has a lot to defend next year. Lindsay said it's preferable to play Patty on a faster indoor court and apparently that's what she thinks this is... it's pretty similar to Indian Wells to be honest.

I saw Adam watching the Kim/Momo match last night... glad to see he's doing some research.

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 07:04 PM
I told you it was quicker than last year. :p

!<blocparty>!
Nov 10th, 2005, 07:15 PM
I'm not taking any Lindsay comments that seriously anymore. Think of all the bs she's told the press since the USO. She had us all worrying about whether she gives a shit, that she didn't care about the ranking... etc etc. And look what happened. :lol:

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 07:19 PM
Through the years, I've learned to take her comments with a grain of salt. Chances are, she'll modify her opinion right after she states it.

Elldee
Nov 10th, 2005, 08:15 PM
I told you it was quicker than last year. :p

It looked more carpet-ey last year, probably because of the colour.

I don't like getting up at 3.30AM and watching Lindsay lose so she better not :D

Apparently Mary and Lindsay played each other in 1986. Cool!

!<blocparty>!
Nov 10th, 2005, 08:19 PM
I'm through getting up to watch womens tennis in the middle of the night. That stopped in 2002.

Elldee
Nov 10th, 2005, 08:27 PM
I'm through getting up to watch womens tennis in the middle of the night. That stopped in 2002.

I always choose live over taped... I feel like I have some control that way, or something illogical like that.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 10th, 2005, 08:30 PM
Hmmm. Yeah... :p

When I wake up in the middle of the night, i can never get back to sleep and always feel like shite the next day, moreso when the player I'm cheering for loses.

Nikki
Nov 10th, 2005, 08:57 PM
I would stay up to watch her match but I'm at uni all day tomorrow then work and I would be even more tired then usual.

dav abu
Nov 10th, 2005, 09:11 PM
I missed watching the last two matches because I'd so much work at Uni but I'm staying up for this one and getting up (or staying up) at 9 and going into Dublin to meet six of the All Blacks-its a hard life!

Loughyunijen
Nov 10th, 2005, 09:56 PM
Good luck tongiht Lindsay!

I hope you win sooooooooooooooooo much!

I put alot of v-cash on you-so you 'fecking' better had woman!!!!

Lets go......"what time is it?????" "dav time!" ;)

Loughyunijen
Nov 10th, 2005, 09:56 PM
one more for luck...

Go dav!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andrew..
Nov 10th, 2005, 10:00 PM
I only function on about five/six hours of sleep a night. So, tennis at weird hours usually doesn't screw me up that badly.

foreva lindsay
Nov 10th, 2005, 10:44 PM
good luck tonight lindsay :hug:

great going so far :yippee:

lindsayno1
Nov 10th, 2005, 11:39 PM
Fellow TOP posters... I have just read on another board, that Andrew.. is training us all to sound like him. By referring to Lindsay as "we", etc.

Please be aware.


LMAO!

I refer to her as 'we' as we are all rooting for the same person/cause!

lindsayno1
Nov 10th, 2005, 11:40 PM
eugh middle of the night. AO final screwed me over. I was really ill and got up to watch that stupid match

But yes, Lindsay is weird in interviews with what she says.

lindsayno1
Nov 10th, 2005, 11:47 PM
Right im off to bed. I wish to wake up with Lindsay having created some food in the match.... mmmm i havent tasted a bagel in a while!
allez Dav.

fnuf7
Nov 11th, 2005, 01:07 AM
I don't suppose there's a live feed of these YEC matches on the internet somewhere? Just cos I don't even have Eurosport where I am right now and I appear to be unable to sleep for some reason so thought I might try and hunt down Lindsay...on TV of course ;)

Kelly
Nov 11th, 2005, 04:23 AM
well...im up and watching it.....please play better lindsay!!!

only an hour and haf till im in work...woot!

LethalLindsay
Nov 11th, 2005, 04:42 AM
There is no live scoring i have found on the web. I am following the postings of the scores in the YEC thread in the tourneys page and I am REALLY unimpressed with the Maria fans calling Lindsay "Davenhorse"!

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 04:54 AM
Lindsay lost the first set 6-3.

She's not serving that great, and that's what the issue has been in this match. Plus, she's been getting alot of 0-30 and 15-30's on Sharapova service games, and just not breaking.

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:02 AM
Note to Lindsay: On the deuce side, she is serving to your FOREHAND. Every time. Please try to remember this.

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:07 AM
3-6 1-1

15-0 FH winner
15-15 Second serve; DF #6.
15-30 Second serve; FH UE
30-30 Second serve; Wild return
30-40 Second serve; BH UE
Second serve; FH UE

3-6 1-2*

Just going totally downhill now... She can't buy a first serve in, and she's starting to hit a ton of stupid UE's.

Oh well. At least she's in the semis. :p

LethalLindsay
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:13 AM
This is what they just ststed on Eurosport apparently.................."Davenport is already qualified for the semis so isn't as sharp as she could be" apparently she has now sown up the Number One spot as well. Andrew any thoguhts?

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:13 AM
Sharapova leads 3-6 1-2*

0-15 Good return, FH forced error
0-30 FH passing shot wide
15-30 Bad return into net
15-40 Second serve; let-cord "winner"
30-40 FH winner
40-40 FH UE
40-Ad BH UE
40-40 FH volley winner
Ad-40 Second serve; horrible FH UE
FH winner

6-3 3-1.

That's nice.

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:15 AM
Well, she's just being really, really sloppy right now. First set was just unlucky, didn't play too badly, but nothing great. Right now, she's just not playing well at all. There was no reason for her to not break Sharapova in that last game. But, she didn't. And her first serve % is dropping like a rock.

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:20 AM
3-6 2-3*

0-15 Second serve; FH swinging volley winner
15-15 Another missed FH return
30-15 Second serve; BH UE
40-15 Second serve; another missed FH return.
Second serve; FH return miss again.

6-3 4-2.

LethalLindsay
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:30 AM
this is the image they are using for Lindsay! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

LethalLindsay
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:41 AM
She FINALLY broke for 5-5 in the second

thelittlestelf
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:46 AM
I love when Lindsay does that :)

LethalLindsay
Nov 11th, 2005, 05:49 AM
ME TOO...................when she looks TOTALLY out of a match and the opens up a can of *WHOOPASS* on her opponent!
Finish off "MASHA" in the third now Linds

Lindsayfan32
Nov 11th, 2005, 06:30 AM
Well even though Lindsay lost she far from tanked it if did she would have lost 6-3 6-3 knew she wouldn't she made Maria earn it and fought her ever inch of the way it looks like she will play Mary in the semi final unless Nadia take a set off Maria which isn't likely. At least she's in the semi finals this year inlike last year so let cheer Linday into the final Momo against Elena for the year end number 1 ranking for Lindsay as well so can start thinkning about 100 weeks at number 1. If gets the year end she will be 93 weeks by the new year.

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 06:31 AM
Sharapova def. Davenport 6-3 5-7 6-4

Break point conversion is what killed her, especially in the third set. Up 2-1 40-15, she couldn't convert, and just died from there. Maria serving for it up 5-4 in the third, Lindsay shanked an overhead and hit a horrible volley to follow it up, and then Maria got a lucky net cord. Then, on BP, her FH went rainbow.

Ugh. This is just not a match she should have lost. She had 100% of the momentum going into the third. And, now she's 1-3 against Maria. Ugly.

I don't think this will help her confidence much, either. It was a good effort, but it call came down to her BP's. She was just not winning the big points.

joaco
Nov 11th, 2005, 06:37 AM
Sharapova def. Davenport 6-3 5-7 6-4

Break point conversion is what killed her, especially in the third set. Up 2-1 40-15, she couldn't convert, and just died from there. Maria serving for it up 5-4 in the third, Lindsay shanked an overhead and hit a horrible volley to follow it up, and then Maria got a lucky net cord. Then, on BP, her FH went rainbow.

Ugh. This is just not a match she should have lost. She had 100% of the momentum going into the third. And, now she's 1-3 against Maria. Ugly.

I don't think this will help her confidence much, either. It was a good effort, but it call came down to her BP's. She was just not winning the big points.

I'll have to disagree with u Andrew... I think this match will do a lot to her confidence. FIrst of all, it was the best she played all week, specially end of second set/beginning of third. Second, I trully believe Lindsay gave a shit about this match, you could totally figure that out by watching Lindsay's attitude. I guarantee you that if they get to met again in the final, Lindsay WILL be the winner.
The thing I didnot like about this match was the amount of DF Lindsay did... just ugly.

Joaco

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 06:42 AM
I'll have to disagree with u Andrew... I think this match will do a lot to her confidence. FIrst of all, it was the best she played all week, specially end of second set/beginning of third. Second, I trully believe Lindsay gave a shit about this match, you could totally figure that out by watching Lindsay's attitude. I guarantee you that if they get to met again in the final, Lindsay WILL be the winner.
The thing I didnot like about this match was the amount of DF Lindsay did... just ugly.

Joaco
Are you kidding me. I think she did start to care about this match mid-way through. And she still lost. That's not good for anyone's confidence. I don't care what angle you look at it from. When you lose a very, very hard fought match, chances are you won't look back on it as a positive experience.

There were alot of things Lindsay didn't do well. It went beyond the serving.

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 06:50 AM
Maybe it's just me being a headcase.

When I was playing in a tournament a few years ago, I lost a match where I came back from 6-7 0-4 down. I won the second set 7-5, and was up 4-2 in the third, and then ended up losing 6-4. I know for me, even though I was playing against a good player, and fought very hard, it was probably one of the most negative experiences in my tennis life. I lost four matches in a row, and I think the match stayed in my mind for about six months.

These kind of losses just aren't good. I don't think Lindsay's reaction will be nearly as bad, but I don't think this is a good thing on any level.

chewy
Nov 11th, 2005, 06:58 AM
i agree whn losing a tough 3 setter definitely won't help any1's confidence. But i understand wat joaco is saying and i hope that is exactly how lindsay is feeling, positive attitude n how much lindsay fights for it is really important.
trailing 1-3 H2H gotta hurt ur confidence somewat.

Andrew..
Nov 11th, 2005, 07:02 AM
Trailing H2H, and ending up losing after fighting so hard. Not good for anyone's confidence.

Anyway, looking forward:

Probably ends up playing Pierce in the semis. That's a really, really rough match, especially if Lindsay's confidence is bruised.

chewy
Nov 11th, 2005, 07:22 AM
a perfect final for me is lindsay vs mary...n lindsay wins!

lindsayno1
Nov 11th, 2005, 08:45 AM
Grrrrrrrrrrrr

jacs
Nov 11th, 2005, 09:01 AM
Quotes from the press conference:

"I wasn't mad," Davenport said. "She is a little dramatic when she wins and it takes her a while to get to the net."


"It was a bizarre feeling walking out because I knew before the match I was in," Davenport said. "There was really nothing for me to play for. When I got close to losing, finally the pride hit me and I got going."

Lindsayfan32
Nov 11th, 2005, 09:51 AM
Yeah Jacs I thought that might be the case. If she was really intent on tanking it she would've lost 6-3 6-3 this match can only get her match tough for her semi final which is likely to be against Mary. She hasn't been put to the test by Patty or Nadia so this can only be good. I will bet by last vcash Lindsay will play better in the semi final with it all on the line.

!<blocparty>!
Nov 11th, 2005, 09:57 AM
Ugh, it sucks hard losing like THAT. I’m not going to watch the third. I couldn’t. Interesting situation now. If Momo tanks the match against Mary, she plays Maria, not Lindsay… which is probably the better matchup for her.

Opinions?

leeber
Nov 11th, 2005, 10:02 AM
i betted my last vcash and all that she would beat maria :sad:

leeber
Nov 11th, 2005, 10:05 AM
Ugh, it sucks hard losing like THAT. I’m not going to watch the third. I couldn’t. Interesting situation now. If Momo tanks the match against Mary, she plays Maria, not Lindsay… which is probably the better matchup for her.

Opinions?

still hope and think that lindsay will win the YEC so doesn't matter who she plays in the end. though rather wish for her to meet maria in the final again.. you noe, so that she has a chance for revenge or sth.. :wavey:

Loughyunijen
Nov 11th, 2005, 10:30 AM
Lindsay didnt play well at all especially on the break points. Couldnt serve. Unforced errors everywhere. Infact I havent been impressed with Lindsay's overall performance in any of the 3 games (match play, interviews, enthusiasm, motivation etc)

Again her body languauge was screaming....."its time to sack this shit off, what am I doing here at 11pm at night, its was past my bed time, wheres my night time coco and chocolate buscuit!!

Mary will demolish davenport in the semis.

dav abu
Nov 11th, 2005, 10:59 AM
I don't think that she will demolish her but at this moment in time I would have to fancy Mary to beat Lindsay. Even in the first two matches Lindsay's focus was not entirely there and she needed to win those matches so when she walked out last night having already qualified she was hardly ever going to apply herself properly. This loss may be a wake up call and I wouldn't entirely count her out of the semi.

dav abu
Nov 11th, 2005, 11:15 AM
By the way people Lindsay has secured the number one ranking :bounce: I know theres going to be dissaopointment anytime that Lindsay loses to a top player but the atmosphere in here at the moment is awful! We have been spoilt with Lindsay holding the ranking for so long but we shouldn't lost sight of what a fantastic achievement it is, ending two years in a row as number one is testement to what a fantastically consistent and prolific player Lindsay is -

1 (1) DAVENPORT, LINDSAY USA
2 (2) CLIJSTERS, KIM BEL
3 (3) SHARAPOVA, MARIA RUS


Steffi Graf* 377 weeks August 17, 1987
Martina Navratilova 331 weeks July 10, 1978
Chris Evert 262 weeks November 3, 1975
Martina Hingis 209 weeks March 31, 1997
Monica Seles 178 weeks March 11, 1991
Lindsay Davenport 87 weeks October 12, 1998

Elldee
Nov 11th, 2005, 11:22 AM
Yay for the ranking.

Yay for awesome movement.

Boo for losing.

I don't think Lindsay's confidence will be as bruised as you think, Andrew; Lindsay has today off, she's still in the tournement and she will try and do better from this point on. If Lindsay had lost 6-3 6-2 then we could say she tanked and saved her energy or whatever but this way she got her groundies, and for the first time in this tournement her returns, going. Lindsay talks about her pride and she won't want to lose again to Pierce this year or in this tournement. I still think she can win this.

I really want to say 'if only' about that horrible overhead on the first point at 4-5 third set, but the same could be said for 2-4 down in the second when she scrambled for a forehand and got it to the baseline. So, yes, awesome movement and a great willingness to move.

mike/topgun
Nov 11th, 2005, 11:29 AM
Quotes from the press conference:

"I wasn't mad," Davenport said. "She is a little dramatic when she wins and it takes her a while to get to the net."


"It was a bizarre feeling walking out because I knew before the match I was in," Davenport said. "There was really nothing for me to play for. When I got close to losing, finally the pride hit me and I got going."

Well it was exactly just that....She didn't want to take the iniciative in the points untill the 3-5 score in 2nd set...then she got her mind up, that she's gonna fight some way through, and then will see what happens-------
-------(like:" oh gosh... it goes in or it goes out - doesn't really matter that much, I am in semis already"-remember that FDriveVolley from near baseline :lick: :) )
-------and what Maria does--------
(confusingly Linds was not thinkin' bout her own tactics) :tape:

Unfortunately for her, Masha served well all match(despite Linds runnin' for breath like in RG 1/8), hit some great FW and was movin' closer n' closer to claim it(not like Kim,who did stumble)...
But Dav helped her alot with those DFs and lack of consistency in her game. Even when she tried hard to dictate the points right from the biginning, something just didn't click that day for Lindsay Ann(especially returns didn't work for her that much) :rolleyes:However, she didn't want to let down her home crowd :angel:

For Maria, played good n' solid match(better serving - aprox.10 points more than Linds with her serve) so she admitted after:
"I played smart tennis,'' Said the 18-year-old. "I took out her strengths. It was exciting to beat someone who's been playing such amazing tennis. I'm very, very happy about it.''- She's kinda "elegant" in her opinions at times:lol:
Next Lindsay will face tougher opponent in semis(prob Pierce) than she did today...Don't see much chances on winning that particular one coz Mary is really strong and determined to do well in YEC and she did beat Kim, so she's confident... :(
What must happen if Linds wants to play Sunday finaly: she has to take back her serve n' move it around better than past few days...(Dav, please remember, that serve is your "top gun")... :wavey:
Or she cannot - she'll lose right the way she did against Maria but in straight. :o
I hope on Mauresmo abilities, to fight against Pierce, but I'm not quite sure if MoMo(who I don't like much) is classy player enough to do so...I'd love to see semis against Amelie & final with one of the Mary's... :p
P.S.-In fact, Sharapova Vs Pierce should be a heavy contest - exciting and full of pure rivalry on every level of the game of tennis :fiery:
Lindsay is The Number One so she ROCKEZ anyway :bounce: :worship:

Ty-Ty
Nov 11th, 2005, 12:49 PM
Whatever. Lindsay's in the semi's. As long as Lindsay wins these two matches, this match is meaningless.

Other than that sloppy head-to-head and some bruised confidence. I think she'll rebound.

But is it just me, or does Lindsay need to work on her second serve? Sharapova was jumping all over it in the first. It was return winner after return winner.

Ty-Ty
Nov 11th, 2005, 12:55 PM
Who-ra. Lindsay's number 1 for the second consecutive year. :)

Now win your next two matches.