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Snuffkin
Apr 29th, 2002, 10:28 PM
Well, after the heat has died down from the Fed (C)up disaster, I can't help but feel that we might be ignoring Jennifer's state of mind whilst defending her right to her viewpoint. Yes, I think the punishment didn't fit the crime, but from what we hear, she behaved like a prima donna all week and screamed abuse at BJK.

BJK has said that she feels that Jennifer feels the pressure of defending her FO title and she's tired. Let's put any dislike of BJK to one side and accept some truth in her words. There is the possibility that this episode is part of a bigger problem.

Undeniably, Jennifer has always been an emotional person who puts her heart into her tennis and takes her emotions onto court with her. Nonetheless, her reactions sometimes make me cringe because I don't feel she does herself any favours. Argue by all means but draw the line at some stage.

Perhaps the most troubling aspect of this is that Stefano is still meddling. Part of me always thought she could only ever make a real comeback at the highest level without him, because he isn't good for her. Shows what I know! However, after what went on this weekend, how can Jennifer learn her lesson when her father himself continues her battles for her...she's still daddy's little girl and she feels she is untouchable because of his overbearing behaviour. She has episodes that remind me that she is still a little girl in an adult's body.

Anyway, my main point is that I do hope that Jennifer is still in control of everything, otherwise, I can only hope she gets out of tennis and gets the control over her life back. I have always stated that I would rather her be happy and away from tennis than playing and miserable. If she is feeling the pressure then she can't be enjoying it and it will only do her damage. More than any other player we know she can fall off the rails when not happy. I would hate to see her go that way again...but with episodes like this, who knows...

If this seems rather dramatic, excuse me...I care for the girl. I don't like seeing her in trouble or being flamed on message boards. I do hope she's happy and this won't do her any harm, but I can't help but worry that it will.

Oizo
Apr 29th, 2002, 10:31 PM
I am worried too, but I think she is smart enough to handle the situation. ;) :cool: :wavey:

kazzmazz
Apr 29th, 2002, 11:50 PM
Snuffkin, I'm worried about her too....:sad: :sad:

Jen is a very feisty, head-strong, pull no punches kind of person. It's part of why I like her, but it also makes me cringe and worry for her sometimes because she can definitely cross the line. Its one thing to stand up for your beliefs and opinions, but Jen just seems out of control emotionally at times.

Who knows? Maybe its really nothing and we're just reading too much into it. But if something is going on, I hope Jen can remember all the positive things she did to turn her life around and pull herself to the top of the mountain, and continue on that path.

Love ya Jen :) :kiss:

cappy happy
Apr 30th, 2002, 02:34 AM
I like this thread – it’s helped me “center” this a little better. I’ve posted some messages on this topic that, without my realizing it until later, launched me away from supporting Jen (which was my aim) and into bashing BJK who, the more and more I read about, the less and less I feel comfortable attacking. What she’s done for women’s tennis is beyond reproach and parallel, and as a fan, I can’t help but respect that contribution. Don’t get me wrong – everything I wrote, I still feel and I think her actions Friday night were, first and foremost, a selfish act committed by a damaged ego – but, there, that’s the last little bit of anger I’ll spew on this matter…. I’m done. From here I’m gonna try to check this frustration at the door and move on.

I adore Jen and hope this experience will somehow, some way, make her stronger rather than strip her of some of the joy for game as it might a weaker-willed person. Who knows? Maybe this will serve as a catalyst for some important introspection? In any case, I can only hope that this sad event doesn’t adversely affect either of these great ladies in any lasting way.
:kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

kazzmazz
Apr 30th, 2002, 03:27 AM
Great post Cappy Happy! :) :wavey:

By the way, I came across this post of yours in another thread and think you should send it to the USTA ;)

In light of the fact that these tennis players have spent a lifetime specifically developing a mentality oriented for singles play, adopting a mindset so competitive and narrow in focus that it often precludes them from forming natural, healthy friendships on the circuit, how realistic is it to try to force, and strictly enforce, a “team" mindset on them in less than a week?

Then to turn around and acknowledge the inability to do so by publicly humiliating a known independent player at a stressful time in their career - just before defending a Grand Slam - when they can’t change their stripes in that nothing-amount of time is not my idea of a stellar coaching skills or managing expectations.

*clapping*

For all the flack Jen and her fans get on this board, I've seen some incredibly well-thought out and solid arguments in her support.

I also find it quite ironic and mildly amusing whenever I see a Jen hater write things so vile and offensive they would make Miss Capriati herself cringe.

TeNnIsFaN
Apr 30th, 2002, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by cappy happy
I like this thread – it’s helped me “center” this a little better. I’ve posted some messages on this topic that, without my realizing it until later, launched me away from supporting Jen (which was my aim) and into bashing BJK who, the more and more I read about, the less and less I feel comfortable attacking. What she’s done for women’s tennis is beyond reproach and parallel, and as a fan, I can’t help but respect that contribution. Don’t get me wrong – everything I wrote, I still feel and I think her actions Friday night were, first and foremost, a selfish act committed by a damaged ego – but, there, that’s the last little bit of anger I’ll spew on this matter…. I’m done. From here I’m gonna try to check this frustration at the door and move on.


I felt the same exact way after I had read what I wrote about BJK. I mean, I am still mad at the fact that Jenn got kicked off of the team and all, it's just I realized what BJK has done to womens tennis. And most of the stuff I said, I felt was true, it's just, it made me feel bad when I did do it. You made me realize what I had done, too, cappy happy. :D :wavey:

Rollo
Apr 30th, 2002, 02:13 PM
She knows what she's been taught by her father. Confrontation is the only style he knows.
I think had she stayed with Harold Solomon(who got her back on track) and won her first slam she could have escaped Stefano. Now though he's her main influence:mad:


No doubt she's been feeling the pressure ever since winning the French last year. Remember all the talk about a possible grand slam? Then everyone was writing her off this year and she won in Oz.

I'm worried she'll go too far too one day, but at least her tennis isn't suffering so far. I still want her to win!

Luna_Angel_84
Apr 30th, 2002, 08:36 PM
I think this is a great post too. We all know how strong Jen is, yet we also know that she can be a little vulnerable and that she can react pretty badly to things. I guess it's only natural for us to worry about her. Better than not caring I suppose!
Stefano has helped her in many ways, but as you've all pointed out, he's a hindrance too. What is it about tennis players and their fathers? :eek:

veryborednow
Apr 30th, 2002, 09:53 PM
People want to believe all the great things that have been written about Capriati's comeback, which is fine. But they should probably understand that she is still a very fragile human being, and one who doesn't need to be pulled in several different directions.

This is a young woman who can still be thrown off her game by a brass band, playing in the distance at Wimbledon. She still looks to her father, Stefano, at important junctures of every match.

From an article - it's a factor that I hadn't realised. One assumes that because Jen is succeeding on the court, that she is psychologically confident. Fragility must cripple sports stars, we saw with jen 1994-1998 and we're seeing it with Anna now.

But just because Jen is feisty on court, and acts as if she couldn't give a toss when she shouts and stamps at umpires, it's maybe just the reaction because she is highly strung?

It's clear Jen is choosing to concentrate on Slams than tiered tournaments. If these are her goals, then yes, she is going to be nervous about approaching it, and she is going to want to practise using the structures/regularity/couaches that she is used to, to keep her confidence up. Underpreparation is going to make her feel worse (i do with my exams ;) ). if she's already stressed and then being forced to comply to a situation she isn't comfortable with - then yeah, blow up, i can understand that.

Oizo
May 10th, 2002, 02:38 PM
I am not worried anymore! ;) :D :wavey:

Luna_Angel_84
May 10th, 2002, 07:53 PM
Yeah, it's a relief things seem to have settled down finally. It was getting worrying there. It seems Jen's happier about things now and let's hope things stay that way.

Oizo
May 10th, 2002, 08:21 PM
Yes, indeed! ;)

Lola
May 12th, 2002, 08:34 PM
don't worry! jen's happy! just look into her eyes and you'll figure it out

Oizo
May 13th, 2002, 06:26 PM
Now I am worried cause she won´t change that blue dress ;) LOL! :D

Lola
May 16th, 2002, 10:27 PM
she'll have a new outfit at the french open

Oizo
May 17th, 2002, 01:59 AM
I am sure about that! ;)

Lola
May 17th, 2002, 02:15 AM
one in pink, please!

Oizo
May 17th, 2002, 02:18 AM
Red red red!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Lola
May 17th, 2002, 02:19 AM
:D :D :D

Oizo
May 17th, 2002, 02:27 AM
It´s gonna be red! ;) :cool:

Lola
May 17th, 2002, 04:05 AM
snuffkin, dear, few more days...;)

Oizo
May 17th, 2002, 10:40 AM
It´s gonna be red! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: