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Portobello
Oct 8th, 2005, 01:45 PM
The Main Draw

Maria Sharapova (1) - Bye
Anna-Lena Groenefeld - Ana Ivanovic
Silvia Farina Elia - Dinara Safina
Q - Alicia Molik (7)

Mary Pierce (3) - Bye
Flavia Pennetta - Nathalie Dechy
Vera Douchevina - Elena Likhovtseva
Anna Chakvetadze - Patty Schnyder (5)

Anastasia Myskina (6) - Magdalena Maleeva (WC)
Evgenia Linetskaya (WC) - Kveta Peschke
Q - Jelena Jankovic
Elena Dementieva (4) - Bye

Svetlana Kuznetsova (8) - Q
Maria Kirilenko (WC) - Vera Zvonareva
Francesca Schiavone - Q
Amelie Mauresmo (2) - Bye

quite good draw for maria :D

ALG,safina can be tricky but im sure maria can past through ;)

i hope Maria-Lena final :hearts:

Dan23
Oct 8th, 2005, 01:56 PM
Not to forget Ana I and Alicia as well...
A great chance for Maria to show her fellow countypeople how good she is in person. Go Masha :yeah:

Maria Croft
Oct 8th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Not such a good draw, only tough matches in this draw for Maria, especially because she hasn't played in a while, I hope she is healthy and can shine in Moscow, good luck Maria!

Portobello
Oct 8th, 2005, 02:12 PM
Not to forget Ana I and Alicia as well...
A great chance for Maria to show her fellow countypeople how good she is in person. Go Masha :yeah:

hmmm ana n alicia still struggle with their injury ;)




so do maria :o

Sweep
Oct 8th, 2005, 02:48 PM
Not a bad draw, but I've seen better.

I think Masha can do it though - she'll be fired up for this.

morningglory
Oct 8th, 2005, 06:39 PM
great draw, in my opinion... Ana isn't her best recently anyway and Alicia hasn't done anything much since AO, then it's either Pierce or Schnyder, and I'd prefer Pierce, since Maria has won their last meetings... then it could be Amelie, Elena D or anyone else, we'll just have to see....
the top half is a lot easier in my opinion

Maria Croft
Oct 8th, 2005, 10:43 PM
It's her first match that I'm worried about, to see how she is playing, if she is healthy or not, Good luck Maria!

Andy.
Oct 8th, 2005, 11:28 PM
It is a tough draw no easy opponents but thats to be expected in a tier 1 but no one that Masha cant handle.

Portobello
Oct 9th, 2005, 12:22 PM
Im only worried her 1st match

hoping she's back on her track :D

Andy.
Oct 9th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Maria is a fighter and she will make sure that she comes ready to play.

Edward.
Oct 9th, 2005, 11:15 PM
I heard Ivanovic has pulled out, which is good news.

So it will be either ALG or a qualifier in the second round.

xan
Oct 10th, 2005, 01:19 AM
It's a pretty tricky draw, especially on the slow Russian courts. Groenefeld is very strong, and not a pushover. Farina Elia is another player who never gives up and is quite consistent. On good form I would hope Maria would win.

Assuming Maria gets through these matches healthy, there is then most probably either Schnyder or Pierce in the Semi. Both represent a big danger. Maria will have to play close to her real best to beat either.

The Final would presumably be Mauresmo or Dementieva. Although Myskina could cause an upset over Elena from their H2H record. If Maria gets this far, I hope for her to put up a good show.

Go Maria!

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Oct 10th, 2005, 03:37 AM
I hope she can get to 60 matches won before losing her tenth..

Doc
Oct 10th, 2005, 02:35 PM
I hope she can get to 60 matches won before losing her tenth..

That would be great.

Udachi Masha! :bigwave:

Dan23
Oct 10th, 2005, 02:53 PM
Masha seems to be really enjoying her return to Moscow...hopefully it continues on the court :D :hatoff:

Virginie Razzano replaced Ivanovic in Maria's section of the draw...

Maria Croft
Oct 11th, 2005, 07:33 AM
I hope she can get to 60 matches won before losing her tenth..


lol, that would be awesome :)

Portobello
Oct 11th, 2005, 07:40 AM
lol it'd be superb if she's gonna be losing her 10th :hug:

Andy.
Oct 11th, 2005, 01:12 PM
Masha will play ALG in the second round, she did not play well at all in her first round with heaps of errors, good luck Masha

Teemu
Oct 11th, 2005, 06:18 PM
Best of Luck for the whole tournament Maria. I know how important it would be for her to perform well in her home country. I think she has a great chance of winning the whole thing, if she can put aside all the pressure, relax and get her game going from the start. The main thing, ofcourse, is that she also stays healthy.
But again, it's one match at a time, so I'll just wish her all the best for each and every one of them. :)
Go Masha! :bounce:

Sweep
Oct 11th, 2005, 07:06 PM
It would be so nice to her her win given the circumstances. Best of luck for tomorrow Maria - you can do it! :)

xan
Oct 12th, 2005, 12:34 AM
Good luck Maria!

Maria Croft
Oct 12th, 2005, 08:55 AM
Good luck Maria!

shadowsecret
Oct 12th, 2005, 10:36 AM
good luck maria!! i really really hope you win ;)

Shoulderpova
Oct 12th, 2005, 10:39 AM
GO MASHA :worship::worship:

shadowsecret
Oct 12th, 2005, 01:31 PM
oh man.. don't look so good right now..

shadowsecret
Oct 12th, 2005, 02:05 PM
i don't want to sound mean but thank god it's over and she "won"

DrChemicalX
Oct 12th, 2005, 02:10 PM
Now that is a miracle if i have ever seen one... I am so so so glad maria won... Well done my darling maria...

Maria Croft
Oct 12th, 2005, 02:11 PM
So lucky, Maria was still fighting but it didn't look like she was able to turn the match around and then.....

I don't know, I'm happy that Maria didn't lose but at the same time I feel sorry for ALG and I'm worried about Maria's next match, I hope she can play better and get everything back together

what a weird way to make your debut in Russia lol

Dan23
Oct 12th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Gee not the best 1st match in Moscow for Maria...but surely she can only pick her game up from here. What an interesting press conference it will be.

shadowsecret
Oct 12th, 2005, 02:36 PM
oh my i am so sick and tired of those idiots at GM. i admit she played like crap today and perhaps having a bad day, but it's not HER fault she's through to the next round. (ok i'm just trying to vent some frustrations haha)

morningglory
Oct 12th, 2005, 02:49 PM
:sobbing:
This is terrible... Maria might as well go out in the next round.... and by then I would have left this board....
So goodbye in advance, you guys :sobbing: If Maria loses her next match, I'm off Wtaworld for maybe 3 years :sobbing:

Shoulderpova
Oct 12th, 2005, 02:52 PM
I have nothing to say :tape:
Masha should do something toprove that shes the real number 1 in the world :help:

Maria Croft
Oct 12th, 2005, 02:57 PM
:sobbing:
This is terrible... Maria might as well go out in the next round.... and by then I would have left this board....
So goodbye in advance, you guys :sobbing: If Maria loses her next match, I'm off Wtaworld for maybe 3 years :sobbing:


Please do leave, if you are someone that leaves the minute everything isn't perfect then bye! :(

Edward.
Oct 12th, 2005, 03:03 PM
My fucking God, what is the big deal?

She's fucking injured and its painfully obvious. There's nothing she can do but soldier on.

This is nothing to do with the #1 ranking. Davenport was injured and didn't play for weeks. Does that mean she was an undeserving #1, because she was human and developed an injury that prevented her playing?

Teemu
Oct 12th, 2005, 03:11 PM
I'm really interested to see what Maria has to say about this strange match. It's obvious that she didn't play well, but to get so close to a complete trashing... Oh well, this time she got lucky, thats how it works, sometimes it goes your way and sometimes it doesn't. We all know that Maria has had enough problems with injuries herself already. I sincerely hope it was just a really, really bad day for Masha, or a problem with getting adjusted with the courts, or the pressure of playing in front of her home crowd, or anything that will be gone before she steps on the court next time. The last thing she should do is risk her health by playing while injured, home crowd or not.
Best of Luck for your next match, Masha! It'd be great if you could show your true talent to your Moscow fans. :) :bounce:

And last but not the least, get well soon Anna-Lena! Better luck next time!

shadowsecret
Oct 12th, 2005, 03:45 PM
come on guys.. we got to stick together.. and let's not give up on her just yet and hope it's just one of those days.. *cross fingers*

Sweep
Oct 12th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Clearly she isn't 100% at all. She's lacking match practice.

I'll admit Groenefeld deserved to win - however Maria should hopefully do alright in the next round. This might be the wake up call she requires.

Good luck Maria in the next round - just keep battling and things should be OK! I'm backing you 100%!

morningglory
Oct 12th, 2005, 06:51 PM
come on guys.. we got to stick together.. and let's not give up on her just yet and hope it's just one of those days.. *cross fingers*
:yeah: Gotta keep the faith, gotta keep the faith.... Although I can't bear the thought of the mockery she would receive on GM if she loses early... :tape:
*crosses fingers, wrists, legs and toes*
Maria's worst 'real' loss is to Patty Schnyder so far... and people just expect her to sweep away the lower ranked players in every match... but yeah, ALG can be dangerous....
Now I'm starting to feel what Roddick fans feel when he lost on his birthday on his home court, and on the year his mojo commercial was on....
That's what's called bandwagon crashing...

Maria Croft
Oct 12th, 2005, 08:09 PM
My fucking God, what is the big deal?

She's fucking injured and its painfully obvious. There's nothing she can do but soldier on.

This is nothing to do with the #1 ranking. Davenport was injured and didn't play for weeks. Does that mean she was an undeserving #1, because she was human and developed an injury that prevented her playing?


I don't think she is injured, true, she hasn't played much because of her injury and wasn't going for too much on her serve, but nothing looked seriously wrong, it was just everything together, not having played in a while, not wanting to get injured again, nervous to be in your home country and of course ALG was playing really good, let's just hope Maria can get it together for her next match!

Go Maria !!

Edward.
Oct 12th, 2005, 08:25 PM
I think its fair to say that a healthy Masha would never have been losing by that scoreline.

Maria Croft
Oct 12th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Of course not, but that isn't the same as injured

But I have to say something else about this match, Maria was getting her game together, maybe to late but we will never know, she was only one break down she could have still won, I mean finishing such a big match is a whole different story, I wonder if ALG would have been able to do that if Maria would have held her service games and started to play better, sure she was lucky because she was playing terrible but the match wasn't over, she already saved 2 more break points and had a point for 2-4 on her own, Maria is a fighter, I'm gonna be honest and say I don't think Maria would have been able to beat ALG today as she was playing and ALG was playing but it's not like she was down 1-5 and ALG had match points, the match wasn't over and out yet!

Andy.
Oct 12th, 2005, 10:38 PM
Wow what a suprise i though Maria was out of it. This is not the way i like to see her winning we never know if she would have been able to come back. I feel for ALG she was the better player out there.I just hope this will spur Maria on now to play better, its not often that you get a second chance like this.

xan
Oct 13th, 2005, 12:29 AM
Of course Maria could have won. That's why they like to hold off announcing the result of each match until play is over. Likhovtseva went down 1-6 in her first set, and turned it round to win. Maria has more than once come back from a set and a break down.

I didn't see the match, but people who did, seem to think that ALG was playing out of her mind. And we all know that Maria hasn't played since China, and came to Russia still affected by her injury. I switched on Teletext half-fearing to see that Masha had lost or withdrawn. Of course I wanted to see an easy straight sets win. And hopefully Maria can produce one next round.

xan
Oct 13th, 2005, 12:33 AM
Thursday, October 13, 2005. Issue 3273. Page 1.
Moscow Times

Sharapova Escapes Defeat at Debut

By David Nowak
Staff Writer

Sergei Karpukhin / Reuters

The roar from the Kremlin Cup crowd that accompanied Maria Sharapova when she stepped onto a Russian court for the first time in her professional career Wednesday was the welcome that she might have hoped for, crushing any lingering doubts about her place in the hearts of her compatriots.

But the victory that was expected over an unseeded German player began to look all but impossible after Anna-Lena Groenefeld thrashed her 6-1 in the first set and took a 4-1 lead in the second before twisting her left ankle and crumpling to the court.

Groenefeld took time out to have her ankle taped and then gamely tried to continue the match. With tears in her eyes and unable to put much weight on her left leg, she lost three straight points before retiring with the score 6-1, 4-2.

"I knew I didn't win this match fairly. I don't like such victories," Sharapova, the world No. 1, told reporters. "But strange things happen in tennis, and today's match was one of them."

Center court at the Olimpiisky Sports Complex was as packed for Wednesday's second-round match as for many a Kremlin Cup final. Russian tennis fans had come to get their first look at Sharapova, who was born in Siberia but has lived more than half of her 20 years in Florida.

Sergei Savushkin, 40, made the trip from Samara to welcome her home.

"Most people don't understand her, but I do. It's not true what some people say and what they write in the press sometimes, that she is somehow un-Russian," Savushkin said. "What do people expect? She was born in a communist state and realized that her best chance to make it in tennis was to go to America. This doesn't make her un-Russian, it makes her a champion -- our champion."

Another fan chimed in: "She's a real Russian. I am proud we have a world No. 1."

If she could take little pride in how she won the match, Sharapova said she was thrilled by the crowd support.

"All the shouting -- Masha, Masha, Masha -- and all in Russian. It was great," she said after the match.

As Sharapova fought back in the sixth game of the second set, trailing 1-4, the familiar booming cry of "Rossia!" rang out from the press stands for the first time during the match. Dmitry Grantsev, or at least his voice, is familiar to anyone who has attended a major tennis match in Russia because of his rallying cry.

He said he had waited until deep into the second set because "for the first time it felt like she had a chance."

"I usually feel when they need my support," said Grantsev, who has covered the Kremlin Cup for the Argumenty i Fakty weekly since the tournament began in 1990. He said he had asked most of the leading players whether they liked his cheering and "they say it helps, especially the men."

After the injury, though, it was Groenefeld who had much of the crowd's sympathy, with chants of "Anna, Anna" springing up in sections of the stands
From the beginning of the match, the 19th-ranked Groenefeld outplayed her more illustrious opponent at almost every turn. Her motif was a stinging crosscourt backhand for which Sharapova had no answer.

Sharapova's game as a power baseliner seemed to desert her, and she missed repeatedly with her forehand.

"I would be lying if I said that I was not nervous before the match," she told reporters.

The bigger problem, she said, was that she had been unable to find her rhythm, though that was normal after an injury. She had not played in two weeks, since pulling out of her semi-final with a chest injury at the China Open, where Groenefeld reached the final before losing to Maria Kirilenko.

Sharapova had beaten Groenefeld 6-2, 6-2 in their only previous encounter, at the German Open this year. And she said she had not given up during Wednesday's match.

"I don't think that I had totally lost the match. Sometimes you look at the score and you think it's all lost, but anything can happen in tennis, and sometimes people even come back from matchpoint down," she said.

Sharapova will face either Dinara Safina, younger sister of Marat Safin, or Australia's Samantha Stosur, who play Thursday, for a place in the semifinals.

To progress, she admitted she would have to play better than she did Wednesday.

"I need to feel like I am able to really play. I need to work on my footwork and the forehand especially," she said.

waratahsrock
Oct 13th, 2005, 04:09 AM
Whew! that was a lucky escape Maria! Hard luck to ALG.

I didn't see this match, but did Maria look to be at full fitness (was her chest injury troubling her) or was she just suffering from being a tad rusty?

anywho, good luck in the next round Maria!

Dan23
Oct 13th, 2005, 04:36 AM
Hey Nick :hatoff:
From what I saw dont think Maria was visibly affected by the injury but I dont think she was going all out or fully confident in it. Im sure shes a little worried about it. She hasnt played much tennis since Wimbledon and needed a match to tune up a bit.

waratahsrock
Oct 13th, 2005, 04:50 AM
thanks for that Dan.
gotta take the positives in a situation like this, she gets some much needed tough match practice and comming through injury-free will be a huge boost in confidence for Maria.

Portobello
Oct 13th, 2005, 01:53 PM
Phewww she won ;)

i didnt see this match so i cant say much about this

all i can say's i do happy she won,hoping it's just her bad day,nothing to do with injury:)

Good Luck in next R maria :yeah:

Portobello
Oct 13th, 2005, 01:55 PM
Who's her next opponent ???

waratahsrock
Oct 13th, 2005, 05:10 PM
Who's her next opponent ???

She'll be up against Dinara Safina who beat Stosur in 3 sets..

Sweep
Oct 13th, 2005, 06:26 PM
Safina will be tough - but I have belief that Maria will come out fighting.

Good luck Maria - you can do it. Keep battling. :)

Portobello
Oct 13th, 2005, 06:41 PM
yah safina'll be tough esp with maria current form :o

but i do believe maria'll fight it out n win it :yeah:

Steve-o
Oct 13th, 2005, 07:13 PM
Dinara is a tough player but this match is far easier for Maria. Anna-Lena is a future Top 10 player for sure and was on an incredible hot streak. Safina is less secure from the baseline, doesn't move as well and is weaker mentally than Groenefeld.
Despite all these facts I don't hold out much hope of Maria winning (painfull for me to say!) because she's still carrying the pectoral niggle and is clearly lacking match confidence.
On another subject, I haven't seen the real Maria since beating Venus brilliantly in Miami (except that ridiculous 20 minute period against Clijsters). Burnout maybe?
Fight Masha!

Steve-o
Oct 13th, 2005, 07:16 PM
Get well soon Anna-Lena!

Maria Croft
Oct 13th, 2005, 08:12 PM
I'm glad that it's not Stosur, she would get back to many balls on this slow court, I doubt Maria would already be able to only make a few errors, I think she has a better shot with Safina, but still, if Maria plays like she did against ALG she isn't going to win, but I have faith in Maria!

Go Maria !!

xan
Oct 14th, 2005, 12:21 AM
Good Luck Maria!

Hope you're back on form for the QF match.

Andy Mac
Oct 14th, 2005, 12:30 AM
good luck masha:D

Andy.
Oct 14th, 2005, 04:47 AM
Safina is going to be just as tough as ALG i hope that having one match under her belt will help her and she will be ready to play. Safina will be going for her shots Masha will have to really cut down the errors and go out much more confidently. Good luck masha

Sharapower
Oct 14th, 2005, 05:40 AM
Actually Masha has the most awful draw that one could imagine for this tourney. From the beginning I wasn't expecting much from her in Moscow this year, given all the pressure: Russian media and fans sollicitation, holding #1 spot, coming back after injury and so on...

It might sound stupid but I really suffer for her these days.

Dan23
Oct 14th, 2005, 06:09 AM
yea i know what you mean quasi/sharapower (do you have a name? :lol: )

Another really tough match....I hope Maria clicks back into her usual game tonight :cool:

Andrews avatar is awesome...love that pic...Maria peeking out from amongst that thing on her head :awww: :D

Sharapower
Oct 14th, 2005, 06:30 AM
yea i know what you mean quasi/sharapower (do you have a name? :lol: )

Why :hehe: ?

Dan23
Oct 14th, 2005, 06:41 AM
Why :heh: ?
ok ill just call you sharapower then :lol:

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 09:08 AM
Good luck Maria !!

@m@nd@
Oct 14th, 2005, 09:43 AM
good luck maria!

shadowsecret
Oct 14th, 2005, 02:06 PM
i like being optimistic and stuffs but it's SO not looking good right now.. she doesnt even look like she wanna be there sigh..

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 02:43 PM
This is just heartbreaking to see, Maria came back only to lose, it's horrible, she really should have won this match, and I'm a little disappointed, she wasn't even playing bad, all I can really say is good luck in your next tournament, it's about time Maria can play some matches without getting injured!

Sharapower
Oct 14th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Yes, I think she's in extreme mental exhaustion.

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 02:52 PM
I hope everything gets slowly back to normal now, because ever since Wimbledon it has been crazy with media and injuries, I really hope Maria's injuries are in the past now (at least for a while) and she can start to built some confidence again and play some tournaments without getting injured.....

Dan23
Oct 14th, 2005, 02:57 PM
:(
its been too much for her
at least its out of the way...if only the injury will stay away too...hopefully 3 weeks rest/recovery is coming up

Sharapower
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:04 PM
Injuries are probably part of the problem, but IMHO it's mainly in her head that things are not perfectly okay right now.

I badly hope she will regain confidence very quickly otherwise things are going to get worse and worse. The point is that she's only 18 (no joke!): at such an age it's not easy to keep everything up neither to take all this year's disappointments with serenity.

I'm pretty sure the outcome of her three last matches is devastating her self-esteem. It will take a lot of subtlety from Yuri to get his daughetr back on the right tracks.

Andy.
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:04 PM
Wow i was not expecting Maria to lose. She did show good fight to keep herself in it though. I hope she will rest up now and just take time away from the spotlight and just heal physically and mentally.

shadowsecret
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:05 PM
this reminds me again why she's my favourite player..she never gives up! let's applaud her effort and wish her well :)

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:05 PM
I mean this year has been horrible for Maria, with her growing (still) losing against Serena with match points, 0-6 0-6 against Davenport, all the number one pressure in the clay season, then the pressure of defending Wimbledon, and after that it was her injury that caused trouble, and still she won 3 titles and became the number one in the world, and has an incredible 51-10 record

I really hope her injury will stay away now so she can get play some matches again and concentrate on playing in stead of getting better

Go Maria!

Andy.
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:06 PM
Injuries are probably part of the problem, but IMHO it's mainly in her head that things are not perfectly okay right now.

I badly hope she will regain conifence very quickly otherwise things are going to get worse and worse. The point is that she's only 18 (no joke!): at such an age it's not easy to keep everything up neither to take all this year's disappointments with serenity.

I'm pretty sure the outcome of her three last matches is devastating her self-esteem. It will take a lot of subtlety from Yuri to get his daughetr back on the right tracks.

The self confidence is a thing im really worried about.

DrChemicalX
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:06 PM
I dont think this was her injury.. i think it was pressure.. in my opinion, this tournament means alot to maria.. I believe it is just second after wimbledon... Because it is her homeland... And also remember, in 2004 after maria one wimbledon, she didnt do to well for a while... Same principle.. And yes Sharapower i agree with exactly what you said, maria's self confidence would not be at it's peak right now...

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:08 PM
this reminds me again why she's my favourite player..she never gives up! let's applaud her effort and wish her well :)


yes your right, as always Maria fought until the end, I'm again very proud of her, just I feel bad for her situation, it's not easy being Maria Sharapova, so I hope that Maria just forgets about her injury that kept her away from so many matches since the US open series

Go Maria! :worship:

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:11 PM
The self confidence is a thing im really worried about.


Yes me too, because she really didn't have the chance to play much since Wimbledon because of her injury, I know Maria is very strong, she surprises me everytime with how mentally strong she is, but the past couple of months weren't fun for Maria, I hope she can do the same as after Indian Wells, just move on as if nothing ever happened :)

Go Maria!

Sharapower
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:12 PM
I am in a double anger now : didn't see the match and Maria lost. GRRRRR!!!

DrChemicalX
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:14 PM
:worship: Go Masha! So much time ahead of you now, i hope she doesnt let this damage her self confidence to much.. This year or the past few month's have not been the best for maria indeed... But i am very sure she will recover and come back amazingly.. Hopefully her injury can be fixed, if it isnt fixed already.. But in the end, and forever, i will always be very proud of maria, she is highly intellectual, inspirational and amazing, and nothing can ever stop her from being who she is, thats for sure ;) :angel:

Dan23
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:16 PM
I mean this year has been horrible for Maria, with her growing (still) losing against Serena with match points, 0-6 0-6 against Davenport, all the number one pressure in the clay season, then the pressure of defending Wimbledon, and after that it was her injury that caused trouble, and still she won 3 titles and became the number one in the world, and has an incredible 51-10 record

I really hope her injury will stay away now so she can get play some matches again and concentrate on playing in stead of getting better

Go Maria!
Thats true...shes just moved from one tough situation to another all year. Hopefully next season will be a little easier in that sense.

I think youre on the right track sharapower. Maria has shown a lot more emotion on the court recently when things havent been well.

nicely said shadowsecret, we can still be proud of Maria :worship:

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:18 PM
Yes we can :)

Go Maria! :worship:

Dan23
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:19 PM
I am in a double anger now : didn't see the match and Maria lost. GRRRRR!!!
im in the same boat :(
though I had ppl telling me what was going on...useless tennis coverage we have here...not helped by the sh*thouse computer I have at home. :bigcry: why did they have to schedule these matches outside of my work hours :(

Sharapower
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:19 PM
I have some paradoxal thoughts, right now. I want Maria to do well in the YEC (defend her title, hem...) but in the same time, I fear she doesn't win a single match and that would be the worst situation so I almost wish she doesn't play there.

Portobello
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:21 PM
it sucks she finally lost this match :o

but im really proud of her,she did fight it till the end :yeah:

it's amazing comback from 1-5 to 5-5 but it's not enough ;)

better luck next time :hug:

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:23 PM
I have some paradoxal thoughts, right now. I want Maria to do well in the YEC (defend her title, hem...) but in the same time, I fear she doesn't win a single match and that would be the worst situation so I almost wish she doesn't play there.


lol, that could be, that Maria doesn't win a single match in the YEC, because she will face the best of the best and right now Maria isn't playing her best, it will take some time, I just really hope that Maria's confidence isn't damaged now

Go Maria!

Dan23
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:25 PM
I hear you though Maria just needs some confidence, both in herself and her arm. Once she has those anything can happen. She was close tonight..the 1st set was superb and then she stumbled when it was all but in the bag. Surely turning up to try and defend the YEC is better than not.

Sharapower
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:29 PM
lol, that could be, that Maria doesn't win a single match in the YEC, because she will face the best of the best and right now Maria isn't playing her best, it will take some time, I just really hope that Maria's confidence isn't damaged now

Go Maria!

It's a pessimistic scenario of course but given her last appearances, it's far from impossible.

Let's just think that a lot of things can happen in one month. And as I said before it's really important that Yuri (or whoever else) finds the right way to make Maria recover the positive drive.

Maria Croft
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Sure, I would rather lose 3 matches and have tried then nothing at all, she really needs some match practice, and there is only one way to get that ;)


Go Maria! :bounce:

Andy.
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:30 PM
Im sure she will be glad when 2005 ends. I just want her to take time off from the tour and jusy be a normal teenager and just let herslef relax and settle.

Portobello
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:33 PM
that's life

it's always up n down

it's just down turn for maria right now,but things 'll be alright :)

Dan23
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:41 PM
Im sure she will be glad when 2005 ends. I just want her to take time off from the tour and jusy be a normal teenager and just let herslef relax and settle.
Maria wont have a long break at the end of the year :(
She'll have a few weeks (4-5), then off to Japan for that fashion tour thingy, then straight to Australia for the AO series and then we go through it all again. Not a lot of rest time there.

jacobruiz
Oct 14th, 2005, 03:54 PM
Maria wont have a long break at the end of the year :(
She'll have a few weeks (4-5), then off to Japan for that fashion tour thingy, then straight to Australia for the AO series and then we go through it all again. Not a lot of rest time there.


True. There is such incredible pressure on Maria to perform on the court and off that I believe she is going through a crisis in her self-confidence. I don't think constant activity away from her mother and her comfort zone (down time with home & family) is going to build it back.:sad:

Teemu
Oct 14th, 2005, 04:38 PM
A good fight! :)
A bit sad about how the tournament went overall though, but atleast Maria realized that she has a heck of a lot of fans in her home country who support her and love her as their own.

I hope Masha takes it easy for the rest of the year, defending her Championships title being her remaining main goal. None of the players have a very long off season, but I don't think that Maria's Japan tour is that bad for her nor does it add to her stress. It's just a few relaxed matches and then she can take part in fashion shows, another of her interests outside of tennis world. I think such occasions when she can take her mind of tennis and just have fun and enjoy life are very important to her. Ofcourse spending time with friends and family is important too, but sadly, there is little time for that in the life of a professional athlete. Luckily Maria seems to handle it well and can squeeze in some time for her personal life.
All the best Maria, in every part of your life! :)

sharapova1987
Oct 14th, 2005, 04:44 PM
There are an awful lot of "what ifs" for Maria right now. Yes, the injury has hurt her, but injuries are part of the game. Things happen. Nobody says everything always has to be perfect. If Serena Williams hadn't become injury prone the past few seasons she probably would have continued to win everything. If Monica Seles had not gotten stabbed, she may have become the greatest women's player EVER. Last year was a fantastic season for Maria, with some very big wins. This year there have been many more expectations, and many more disappointments. Yes, she's won three tournaments, and I am not the biggest tennis fan in the world by any means, but has anyone even heard of the three tournaments that she's won? It's just frustrating and disappointing. Yes, I know she is "only" 18, but that isn't exactly considered "young" for women's tennis players anymore. And it's not like we will see her playing tennis until she's 30 or 35 I doubt. Yes, she has potential, and yes, she should continue to improve, but..............lots of players have great potential, and lots of players will continue to improve. Of course I want Maria to be the best player, but as I have stated in a previous post, I think there are soooooo many top players currently that she is capable of beating, but who are also very capable of beating her. Not to mention a lot of the up and coming players maybe a year or two younger than Maria. I think women't tennis will be very very interesting for many years to come. I don't see how any one player is going to dominate.

morningglory
Oct 14th, 2005, 05:18 PM
:drink: let us drown all our sorrows :drink: :hug: :sobbing:
Shame though... like against Clijsters, Maria had an impressive comeback... only she couldn't quite pull it off....

Portobello
Oct 14th, 2005, 05:23 PM
some1 in gm posted this....

As great a fighter as Maria has shown,this is the second time she fought even,then gave it right back to oppnent!

Today against Safina she was down 1/5 in third,fights all the way back to 5/5,jus to lose next two games and mtach 5/7

Same thing adainst Kim in US Open Semi,down a set 5/6 and triple mtch pt,fights em off,wins the tiebreaker only to quickly go down a break(or maybe two)in 3rd,fights back again only to get broken and lose 4/6

that i really wonder the same thing.......

what do yu guys thing??? :)

shadowsecret
Oct 14th, 2005, 06:11 PM
i just love coming here and read what you guys have to say haha it's less depressing than GM that's for sure.. as expected, still supportive.. yeah! haha

Sweep
Oct 14th, 2005, 06:40 PM
Maria battled very bravely despite being out-of-sorts. She should put her feet up and relax, take it easy for a few weeks before the YEC.

I'm proud of Maria - she may have lost, but the fight she put up showed just why she's number 1.

waratahsrock
Oct 14th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Hard luck Maria. As i didn't get to see this match, it's hard for me to judge, however.. this must've been a huge improvement from her match against ALG. And 2 weeks off is not going to do Maria any damage, extra time to freshen up and hopefully finally get rid of her injury.

Yea, her off season is VERY short, but thats professional sport for you. And Maria loves going to Japan, and a couple of light hearted exhibition matches mixed in with some fashion shows will be good for her.

All the best in Philadelphia Maria!

xan
Oct 14th, 2005, 09:57 PM
I'm surprised at all the negativity here.

Maria never realistically had a great chance of winning this tournament, coming off an injury that was still troubling her just a week ago. I half expected her to have to pull out. In fact Moscow was always going to be an ordeal, playing to a home crowd under a publicity spotlight on a very slow court that hugely favours her opponents' game.

Maria performed excellently after her Wednesday level of play, but she clearly tired in the 2nd set, and didn't hold it together for the quick, two set win she really needed against a strong, motivated opponent with home-town support. I'm glad she managed to get through this tournament without worsening her injury - which was a real possibility.

Players can't always win. It's sad, but true, the ups are generally accompanied by some downs. It can't be up, up, up, all the time. In 2005 so far Maria has lost to only two people who haven't been former world No 1 players - Safina and Schnyder. That's an amazing record, and part of the reason she's now World No 1. yet people are going on as if she's in a major slump! She's not won any tournaments since Birmingham, true - but she's been out with injury most of that time. Her Grand Slam losses were to players on their peak of form at the time. Maria is a great player, but she hasn't been lucky in individual events this year. She has had some close losses - which is something that needs to be addressed, but she is improving her basic game all the time.

What Maria needs is to take the opportunity to rest, make sure the injury is healed, and then get ready for the YEC. Defending a YEC is a rarely-performed feat, but if she's fit, she has the talent to go a long way in the competition.

morningglory
Oct 14th, 2005, 10:02 PM
ah well... I shall take a break of from this board until YEC where I will be cheering my heart out for Maria, so C ya'll then :wavey:
Ps. Yep... I need to mourn, maybe shaving my head or dyeing my hair :p

xan
Oct 14th, 2005, 10:06 PM
some1 in gm posted this....

As great a fighter as Maria has shown,this is the second time she fought even,then gave it right back to oppnent!

Today against Safina she was down 1/5 in third,fights all the way back to 5/5,jus to lose next two games and mtach 5/7

Same thing adainst Kim in US Open Semi,down a set 5/6 and triple mtch pt,fights em off,wins the tiebreaker only to quickly go down a break(or maybe two)in 3rd,fights back again only to get broken and lose 4/6

that i really wonder the same thing.......

what do yu guys thing??? :)

What this shows is that Maria can fight her way back against virtually anyone, even on bad surfaces for her, for a limited time. She can produce patches of play that no-one can live with. But she can't sustain that as long as she would like.

The problem is really that her serve is still too vulnerable. In so many matches, she's fought ahead, and then lost her serve. Her growth this year and injuries have prevented her beefing her serve up. If she can start holding serve easily on all surfaces, like Davenport or even Petrova, she won't be so subject to sudden reversals. that will increase her confidence and diminish that of her opponents.

andrewbroad
Oct 14th, 2005, 11:26 PM
If Monica Seles had not gotten stabbed, she may have become the greatest women's player EVER.

Sorry to be off-topic, but what you posted is a common misconception. Monica's comeback from the Stabbing proved that she is the greatest player of all time. :worship:

--
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andrewbroad
Oct 17th, 2005, 11:03 PM
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LADIES KREMLIN CUP (Moscow, Russia; Supreme; WTA Tier I)
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It was very important for Maria to win this tournament, but sadly she played - by her own high standards of excellence - very poorly indeed. This was a great opportunity for Maria to put distance between herself and Kim Clijsters, who could have usurped her #1 ranking by winning the Filderstadt tournament the week before.

Instead, Maria will lose the #1 ranking on 24th October, as she is not defending her finalist's points from Zurich 2004. Lindsay Davenport can become #1 next week by winning her opening match at Zurich (in which case Maria will drop to #3), otherwise it will be Kim Clijsters (with Maria at #2). :(

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Photos
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Off-court:
http://www.kremlincup.ru/www/gallery/gall_10.10.05.shtml (http://www.kremlincup.ru/www/gallery/gall_10.10.05.shtml)
http://www.wtatour.com/photogallery/ (http://www.wtatour.com/photogallery/) (select "Moscow")

On-court:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news/?c=news_photos&p=sharapova (http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news/?c=news_photos&p=sharapova)
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=99305&page=90 (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=99305&page=90)
http://www.kremlincup.ru/www/gallery/gall_14.10.05.shtml (http://www.kremlincup.ru/www/gallery/gall_14.10.05.shtml)

Search Getty Images for "sharapova"

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Pre-tournament quotes
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Maria: "I definitely feel Russian inside, even when I'm in America I feel Russian. But coming here for the first time in years, it made me feel even more so."

Re. her pectoral muscle:
"I hope everything will be all right, though when the tournament starts it may be different, but so far it's all right."

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Second round
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+ MARIA SHARAPOVA [1] d. Anna-Lena Grönefeld, 1-6 2-4* (30/0*) retired (left-ankle sprain)

When I saw this on the www.wtatour.com (http://www.wtatour.com) Results page, I couldn't believe that it was Grönefeld who led 6-1 4-2. Perhaps Maria's pectoral muscle was still bothering her, perhaps she was rusty and out of practice after it forced her to retire from Beijing, but the reports just say that Grönefeld was outplaying Maria with the match of her life when she twisted her ankle at 6-1 4-1* - after missing two break-points that would have left her serving for the match at 5-1.

Grönefeld tried to continue, but had to retire in the next game after serving two double faults, and was in floods of tears.

I feel sorry for Grönefeld, and I wish her a full recovery. I freely admit that Maria was extremely lucky to be in the quarter-finals (though we'll never know whether Grönefeld would have been able to close out the match against the world number one), and I could only hope that - pectoral muscle permitting - she would be a transformed player on Friday.


Maria quotes
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"I knew I didn't win this match fairly. I don't like such victories. But strange things do happen in tennis, and today's match was one of them.

"I wasn't winning that match. She was doing the right things and I wasn't. I would be lying if I said that I was not nervous before the match.

"I don't think that I had totally lost the match. Sometimes you look at the score and you think it's all lost, but anything can happen in tennis, and sometimes people even come back from match-point down.

"I knew she was a strong player and played well in Beijing, but I must admit I just wasn't myself on the court today. It's always tough to come back after injury, and I haven't played for two weeks, so obviously I need some time to find my rhythm.

"Hopefully, I'll play better in my next match. I need to feel like I am able to really play. I need to work on my footwork and the forehand especially.

"The crowd definitely helped me today. It was nice to hear them yell my name. The atmosphere was very much Russian."


Grönefeld quotes
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"Of course I'm very disappointed, especially because I was just a couple of points from winning the match - and also to end the season this way. I'm leaving tomorrow for Germany to get an MRI and see how bad the injury is. I want to find out what I have to do to get well and get ready for next season."

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Quarter-finals
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- MARIA SHARAPOVA [1] lt. Dinara Safina, 1-6 6-4 7-5

Maria hadn't lost to a player outside the top 16 all year, apart from #38 Kim Clijsters in the Miami final and her retirement against #45 Maria Kirilenko at Beijing, but it was clear from her dreadful performance against Anna-Lena Grönefeld that even the #24-ranked Safina would be a threat to Maria on that form.

Maria took advantage of Safina's early nerves to lead 6-1 4-2 - ironically the same scoreline by which she had trailed Grönefeld in her previous match when the latter retired with an ankle-injury.

But Maria capitulated with what Teletext described as a "dreadful performance" (which they later changed to "below-par display", no doubt in response to complaints).

What's so disturbing about this scoreline is how uncharacteristic of Maria it is. She can be a slow starter and drop the first set, but to lose from 6-1 4-2 up - and after fighting back from 1-5 to 5-5 in the third (saving a match-point at 1-5) - is not the sort of momentum-shift I'd expect from her at all, even if she were playing her nemesis Kim Clijsters.

I'm not sure whether it's simply that Maria is rusty after being sidelined with a pectoral-muscle strain, whether she hasn't fully recovered from that injury, or whether her nerves about playing in Russia for the first time had a greater impact than we might imagine.

www.wtatour.com (http://www.wtatour.com):
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Sharapova came out on fire early in the match, pounding big serves and groundstrokes to perfection in winning the first set easily and taking a 4-2 lead in the second set.

Safina fought back with her own brand of power tennis, reeling off five straight games to win the second set and take a 1-0 lead in the third. Sharapova held for 1-all, but Safina continued on her tear, building a seemingly insurmountable 5-1 lead and reaching match point.

Sharapova picked up her game when it mattered most, and with Safina getting a little tentative, she mounted her own comeback to even things up to 5-all.

However, it was Safina who came through in the final two games of the match, holding serve with ease and breaking Sharapova one last time to close out the topsy-turvy victory.
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Maria quotes
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"A couple of points in the third set made a difference to the end result. When I was 1-5 down, I played very relaxed and tied the score, but at 5-all, she held her serve after she had a couple of lucky points and it turned her way. In the deciding moment I lost my chance and failed to win.

"I should forget this loss because I had two good weeks in Russia, and will take positive things from my game today.

"I think today I played much better, especially in the first set, than in my first match on Wednesday. In the second set I broke her in the seventh game to lead 4-3, but she broke right back and she looked a lot more confident after that. In the end it was one or two points which decided the outcome, but what can I say - life goes on.

"I'm going home to Florida to have some rest and get ready for the WTA Championships."


Safina quotes
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"She didn't give me a thing at the start. I almost cried - I didn't want to lose a match like that.

"I played softly on a match point, and then waited for her mistakes. I was almost crying. And at 5-5, I began to attack myself.

"This is undoubtedly the biggest win of my career so far. Until now I've never beaten the world's top player. I felt so much support from the crowd. Everywhere I looked I saw friends and relatives, and it helped me a lot. Everyone was cheering me on, and I felt I just can't lose in such circumstances."

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lakan kildap
Oct 18th, 2005, 11:19 AM
I'm doing what the Colonel in "Scent of a Woman" threatened to do. I'm bringing in a flamethrower :)

OK, I think the Russians, collectively, deserve to lose the Kremlin Cup. They must be wondering now over what just happened to their year. Not only do they fail to win a Grand Slam after winning three last year, they also lose their biggest tournament to a foreigner.

And I think it's because instead of focusing on winning the Cup, the Russians would rather open for discussion the Russian-ness of the player now currently representing their nation, Maria Sharapova. Yes, dear forum members, in this age where Jamaican athletics great Merlene Ottey can run for Slovakia without any fuss, where the Canadian-American Mary Pierce plays for France, Russian players are still in a Cold War time warp.

Maria's sins? 1) She's not from Moscow 2) She has fraternized with the enemy, that is, the old enemy of the old Soviet Union, which is the US of A. Frankly, I'm disappointed that Sveta is also getting into this debate. She of all people, based in Spain since her early teens, training with Spanish players, speaking fluent Spanish, now saying Sharapova is more American than Russian. What rubbish.

It's not the accent. It's not even the birthplace, nor the residence (Marat Safin is based in Monaco).

IT'S THE HEART THAT DETERMINES WHAT YOU ARE.

Portobello
Oct 18th, 2005, 12:10 PM
I'm doing what the Colonel in "Scent of a Woman" threatened to do. I'm bringing in a flamethrower :)

OK, I think the Russians, collectively, deserve to lose the Kremlin Cup. They must be wondering now over what just happened to their year. Not only do they fail to win a Grand Slam after winning three last year, they also lose their biggest tournament to a foreigner.

And I think it's because instead of focusing on winning the Cup, the Russians would rather open for discussion the Russian-ness of the player now currently representing their nation, Maria Sharapova. Yes, dear forum members, in this age where Jamaican athletics great Merlene Ottey can run for Slovakia without any fuss, where the Canadian-American Mary Pierce plays for France, Russian players are still in a Cold War time warp.

Maria's sins? 1) She's not from Moscow 2) She has fraternized with the enemy, that is, the old enemy of the old Soviet Union, which is the US of A. Frankly, I'm disappointed that Sveta is also getting into this debate. She of all people, based in Spain since her early teens, training with Spanish players, speaking fluent Spanish, now saying Sharapova is more American than Russian. What rubbish.

It's not the accent. It's not even the birthplace, nor the residence (Marat Safin is based in Monaco).

IT'S THE HEART THAT DETERMINES WHAT YOU ARE.

best speech so far :worship:

Dan23
Oct 18th, 2005, 01:04 PM
Thats very true Lakan :cool:...but getting it through the thick skulls of ppl who dont want to hear it is a different matter

xan
Oct 18th, 2005, 11:27 PM
I'm sure Maria was still troubled by the pectoral muscle. She said it wasn't healed when she arrived in Moscow a week earlier, and she was going to get it treated.

Maria rarely gives any excuses, but I feel 1 week wasn't time for it to heal completely, and it either was giving her mild pain, or she was afraid to aggravate it. Add that to the pressures of playing in front of a home crowd as World No 1, and the awful slow court, and Moscow was always going to be a tournament it would be very hard to win.

I'm sad Maria lost the match with Safina, and with it her chance of keeping No 1 a little longer. But I was also relieved that she got out of Moscow (which she was more-or-less forced to play) without aggravating her injury.

Maria Croft
Oct 19th, 2005, 08:12 AM
I'm sure Maria was still troubled by the pectoral muscle. She said it wasn't healed when she arrived in Moscow a week earlier, and she was going to get it treated.

Maria rarely gives any excuses, but I feel 1 week wasn't time for it to heal completely, and it either was giving her mild pain, or she was afraid to aggravate it. Add that to the pressures of playing in front of a home crowd as World No 1, and the awful slow court, and Moscow was always going to be a tournament it would be very hard to win.

I'm sad Maria lost the match with Safina, and with it her chance of keeping No 1 a little longer. But I was also relieved that she got out of Moscow (which she was more-or-less forced to play) without aggravating her injury.

Yeah I agree, I just hope that her injury won't bother her anymore, at least for a very long time

Andy.
Oct 19th, 2005, 10:40 AM
From What i saw against Safina she looked Ok and not to bothered. I hope that she is just relaxing and having fun off the court without pressure for a while. She shouldnt focus too much on the YEC just getting healthy for next season.

Dan23
Oct 19th, 2005, 02:09 PM
I had a feeling Maria wasnt 100% confident in the pec muscle at Moscow but it was a good thing that it seemed to hold up. The YEC is the single biggest thing on Maria's ranking atm so its important for her to try and defend of much of it as she can to keep right up at the pointy end of the rankings for a good AO seed. Keeping herself fit and healthy is of course the most important thing though.

Sharapower
Oct 19th, 2005, 03:20 PM
Anyway, whatever happens until the end of the season, losing places in the rankings might be of some good for Maria and her staff : it could lead them to question Maria's playing system and work more seriously on new shots and different tactics.
This year I didn't like seeing Maria playing with no game-plan. For example she definitely has what it takes to beat Kim Clijsters but then, on court she seems not to think properly: serves Kim's backhand, gets into backhand rallies most of the time which is the absolute contrary of what she should do.

Maria Croft
Oct 19th, 2005, 11:34 PM
I think right now not being number one would probably be better, that would put the pressure off a bit, it's always tough being the top of the world, everyone expects you to be the best all the time, and that's a lot to ask from an 18 year old girl, and even though I don't doubt Maria, she is handling the pressure great, but I think she could focus more on tennis if she didn't have so much at stake every single match!

Dan23
Oct 20th, 2005, 12:22 AM
...gets into backhand rallies most of the time which is the absolute contrary of what she should do.Against Kim? or in general?
I would have thought getting into backhand rallies with most players would suit Maria just fine...very few could compete with her.

Andy.
Oct 20th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Maria's forehand was just off in Mosco it is an underated shot IMO it has tremendous power and when its on its deadly. If she treats it like a weaker side and favours the backhand then i believe it will become a weakness in her mind so i think she should just play her game thru this mini slump and not change anything. But really there is only the YEC left and then 2006 coulodnt come any sooner.

Sharapower
Oct 20th, 2005, 05:17 AM
Against Kim? or in general?
I would have thought getting into backhand rallies with most players would suit Maria just fine...very few could compete with her.

Against Kim

Sharapower
Oct 20th, 2005, 05:19 AM
Maria's forehand was just off in Mosco it is an underated shot IMO it has tremendous power and when its on its deadly. If she treats it like a weaker side and favours the backhand then i believe it will become a weakness in her mind so i think she should just play her game thru this mini slump and not change anything. But really there is only the YEC left and then 2006 coulodnt come any sooner.

She will also defend Philadelphia SF points, I think.

Andy.
Oct 20th, 2005, 05:32 AM
She will also defend Philadelphia SF points, I think.

Is she playing Philli

Dan23
Oct 20th, 2005, 07:08 AM
Is she playing Philli
as it stands now...yes :)
..but she can change her mind :p

Doc
Oct 20th, 2005, 03:15 PM
If Maria is healthy, she should probably play Philly - just to get match practice for the Championships. Also, I think Philly would hate it if she pulled out again! :o

Maria Croft
Oct 20th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Yeah Maria should play, just for some practice

Dan23
Oct 21st, 2005, 12:13 AM
If Maria is healthy, she should probably play Philly - just to get match practice for the Championships. Also, I think Philly would hate it if she pulled out again! :o
yea after the crap that went on last time..

Andy.
Oct 21st, 2005, 06:25 AM
I would really like to her play and win some matches and get some much needed confidence ahead of the YEC if she is healthy.