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Mark43
Apr 27th, 2002, 04:39 AM
sucks a**!

Seriously...well I am being serious, but I hope this negative energy doesn't affect Jennifer in any way. I am glad Jen stood up to the old hag but I hope there are no consequences (like being distracted by the press, etc etc).

JCFan
Apr 27th, 2002, 04:53 AM
I don't get BJK. I don't know much about her, but didn't she and Jen play doubles a decade ago? Don't they go way back and are more or less friends? Why would BJK do something so idiotic. Now they may lose the tie. All Jen wanted to do was get some extra practice in. Why would that warrant a dismissal from the team? I am just baffled by this right now.

Yeah I hope this does not negatively affect Jen. I hope she can just move on, put it out of her mind, and get ready for the big tournaments coming up.

cappy happy
Apr 27th, 2002, 05:43 AM
There has GOT(!!!!!!!!!) to be more to this bizarre story than what we're hearing. From what I understand, it's difficult to get players of any decent ranking (at least in the U.S. - maybe elsewhere too??) to commit to the Fed Cup. So to throw a player off of this caliber, for this "reason", seems cavalier at best. I tried to attend this event but even the $200 tickets were sold out when I called yesterday. Whew - - Thank God!! I would NEVER, EVER have even THOUGHT about going if I knew JC wasn't going to be allowed to play!!!! :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

I hope BJK knows what the f-she's doing because it's not innately intuitive to me... and probably not to half those fans in stands tomorrow who paid a lot of money to see Jen play! :mad: :mad:

veryborednow
Apr 27th, 2002, 09:48 AM
pfffff - i came to Jens Den first and had no idea what you were talking about

I've just read it, and it's sounds like a pathetic school yard spat with BJK going over the top.

Could be good for Jen - extra rest - less liklihood of an injury

GO JEN!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

kazzmazz
Apr 27th, 2002, 01:36 PM
What an egomaniacal idiot!!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't this the same person who goes on and on ad nauseum about the importance of top players representing their country and promoting the Fed Cup? And she axes her top player and main draw for practicing too much?? :confused: :mad: After fulfilling all her obligations to the team?? Moron. She thinks she's the fu@*ing Billie Jean King.:fiery: :fiery: :fiery:


*sending positive vibes to JCap*

GO JEN!!!!!!!!!!

Snuffkin
Apr 27th, 2002, 01:59 PM
Well, truth is, she broke the rules. Problem is, it's a crazy rule. How can an extra practice session have been bad for the team? She would only have improved her play...surely a bonus for the team?

Although I can see both sides of the argument, I'm completely with Jennifer on this one. Fed Cup is not her career, she has other tournaments to look out for. If the other players are satisfied with little preparation then good luck to them, but Jennifer wants all the practice she can get and this is a problem? If she had hit someone, got drunk before her match, then throw her off the team, but for trying to make herself a better player...such a crime.

Stupid rule...but part of me think that even violation of it isn't enough for being dismissed. Surely forfeitting her first match and fining her would have been enough. Something else may have been said/done behind the scenes. It will be interesting to see what happens when Fed Cup comes around again next.

My main worry is what it will do to Jennifer. I do so hope that she will just shrug this off and it will inspire her to a great clay court season, but who knows where her head is at most of the time? Not too happy about it for her...but as a Brit...Fed Cup? no thanks!

Mark43
Apr 27th, 2002, 03:14 PM
$200 dollars a ticket....YEEESH!

That is fitting of a final round match between top players.

I hope all the people that got ripped give BJK a piece of their mind when she is introduced on court.

paigery
Apr 27th, 2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Mark35
$200 dollars a ticket....YEEESH!

That is fitting of a final round match between top players.

I hope all the people that got ripped give BJK a piece of their mind when she is introduced on court.

I know I am on vacation and I swore I would not post while away but guys this is stupid. And Capriati did not even complete the practice session, in her statement on Friday night Jennifer said she did not have the session, that she was dismissed for "scheduling" the practice session witha hitting partner and her coach, so how idiotic is that!!!!!!!!BJK made a huge error, BJK=moron..................................Capriat i should just take the rest period and forget about this, BJK should have enough egg on her face to sell a dozen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO CAPPA!

Luna_Angel_84
Apr 27th, 2002, 05:09 PM
BJK is a fucking wanker. I mean it'd have been far worse if Jen hadn't been practising, but oh no, she gets booted off simply for wanting to practice a little more. Such a a stupid rule.
I just hope to God Jen bounces back from this okay because she was really looking forward to representing her country!

veryborednow
Apr 27th, 2002, 05:37 PM
Sorry to be the cynical one here - I love Jen and all that

But ... do you honestly believe that potentially breaking a code polka dot rule is worthy of dismissal from the team ???

Or is there something else going on here?

Rollo
Apr 27th, 2002, 06:39 PM
The real issue was over Stefano being with and practicing with Capriati. Go to ********************

I also did a copy and paste in GM.

Lets look on the bright side. Maybe this will fire her up to do well in France!:)

Veggy
Apr 27th, 2002, 06:42 PM
I read in a few articles that BJK got fed up with Stefano hanging around whilst the team practiced. But , come on BJK, how could you do that? You kick of the worlds best tennis player out of your team. I'll so be laughing if they lose now. Everyone thinks there is more to this story that BJK and Jen are letting on. Anyone agree?:fiery: :fiery: :mad: :fiery: :mad:

Nimi
Apr 27th, 2002, 06:52 PM
i do!

kazzmazz
Apr 27th, 2002, 08:17 PM
Obviously there's more going on. But if BJK had issues with Jen she should have kept it on the down-low, let Jen play and focus on winning a normally routine tie (which is her job afterall), and then simply not invited Jen to return next time.

Instead genius decides to pull a (very public) power trip and is gonna end up with a lot of egg on her face and questions to answer if the US loses (which it looks like they might). Ironically, she's been a lot more detrimental to the team and team spirit in the way she's handled the situation. But what else do you expect from a woman who terrorizes small children (right Mark? ;) ).

No wonder the Williams sisters don't want to play for the tyrant bitch unless there's an Olympic medal in it for them. Obviously Jen's out of the picture now as well. BJK will be eating major crow, maybe as soon as tomorrow.

I just hope the inevitable media circus over this doesn't affect get to Jen in her upcoming tournaments.

cappy happy
Apr 27th, 2002, 08:34 PM
Yeah, $200 per ticket!! When I heard that I just laughed into the phone. Apparently it's so expensive because they make you purchase tickets for both days - they don't sell just a single day ticket. So, I guess that just proves even the fans are subjected to counter-effective rules when it comes to Fed Cup. (And they wonder why no one's really into it...)

And can you imagine - $200 to sit there and watch an exhibition match (no offense to Lisa Raymond) Ė as if Fed Cup isnít enough of a diluted event to begin with!! This whole mess seems to me to be a pitiable way to try to sell the product to fans and sponsors and to encourage future players to want to participate. BJK, I think, really lost sight of her objectives and responsibilities as a Cup ambassador and promoter by letting her emotions make that decision. My somewhat educated guess is, Jen wasn't a perfect angel, but it was BJK's responsibility to handle the matter with the maturity and experience and leadership her role as team captain requires. No one was paying Jen to handle team "personnel" issues, and they probably didn't pay BJK to just dismiss them.

TeNnIsFaN
Apr 28th, 2002, 03:05 AM
BJK pissed me off when I heard what happened! That's a really dumb reason to kick a player off the team, especially someone that could probably help the team out a lot. And because they kicked her off they just made it worse on themselves. They are now 0-2 because of Jennifer's match and then Moinca lost today. I really hope BJK knew what she was doing when she kicked her off....

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 28th, 2002, 03:22 AM
why are you all blaming bjk? who was the one bringing her coach to practice when it was expressly forbidden? who was the one planning and having outside practice sessions that were clearly against the rules? who all agreed to these rules? MONICA MEG LISA AND JEN! If she couldnt handle that then she never should have joined

Mark43
Apr 28th, 2002, 04:33 AM
Whatever.

As I said before, I hope this negative energy doen't adversely affect Jen during the clay season.

veryborednow
Apr 28th, 2002, 09:37 AM
cybelledarkholmexx - this is Jenn's Den - who else do you think we're going to be blaming :rolleyes:

Well SA are losing now - mwah ha ha ha ha!! I would be more pissed off about the whole thing if I was american, but as the UK are in some obscure Afrcian group, it's entertainment.

Oizo
Apr 28th, 2002, 10:02 AM
Who the f+++ does BJK thinks she is??? :mad:
I am sorry for saying this, but I hope the US team will lose so they can blame her for it! ;) :fiery: :o

Oizo
Apr 28th, 2002, 10:49 PM
I should become a prophet...;) Sorry US-people ;)

Mark43
Apr 28th, 2002, 11:59 PM
Don't worry the Fed Cup is NOT a big deal in the USA anymore. It never really was to begin with as it has gone through so many format changes that the US press doesn't pay it much attention.

It was a lot more prestigious in the 70's-mid 80's when Billie Jean/Chris Evert were leading the way.

I am sorry that Monica lost. I feel bad for her but overall I was kinda glad we lost. Call me unpatriotic, whatever you like. I just feel that whatever really happened between BJK and Jen (and OBVIOUSLY Stefano) that BJK should have allowed Jen to play out the tie and then taken the next several months between matches to iron out their differences. Kick her out, go to a mediator, whatever, just let her play for the good of the team for that weekend. Now BJK might just be removed as captain and the USA is out until next year.

I just hope Jen doesn't get a lot of shit from the press because she needs to concentrate on the FO defense.

TeNnIsFaN
Apr 29th, 2002, 12:14 AM
Mark, I dont think Jenn will take anything from the press..but BJK might have to...:D

Zhao
Apr 29th, 2002, 04:07 AM
US lost not because of the kicking of Jennifer but more to BJK's guidance n motivation during matches....really suxs big time

BJK really got herself slapped on the face real hard this time...fansy saying its ok after their loss

Luna_Angel_84
Apr 29th, 2002, 08:33 PM
It seems like BJK is the only one getting the negative press. From what I can see, people are taking Jen's side in ths and the whole episode is certainly doing BJK more harm than good.

Lola
May 9th, 2002, 01:16 AM
... sucks!!!

Oizo
May 10th, 2002, 01:22 PM
I hope that BJK learned her lesson! :p