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over_4_20
Apr 26th, 2002, 11:17 AM
Group C
Bulgaria leads Estonia 1:0

D.Topalova d. Ani 7-5 6-3 :( :(

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 11:28 AM
oh Maret :sad:

come on Kaia, keep your 100% record :)

jeanne
Apr 26th, 2002, 11:31 AM
Luxembourg leads Yugoslavia 1-0

Claudine def. Katarina Daskovic : 4-6 6-4 6-4 :)

well done Claudine :D, tough match :)


http://www.claudineschaul.lu ;)

Josh
Apr 26th, 2002, 11:31 AM
Israel lds. Holland 1-0

Obziler def. Boogert 6-2 6-3

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 11:37 AM
Boogie :sad: another bad loss :(

alon222
Apr 26th, 2002, 12:14 PM
great for israel!!
now smashnova can beat ormenes!!
come on obziler come back to the tour!!

Jorn
Apr 26th, 2002, 12:25 PM
Go Maja, Tina , Tina & Tina! :)

also good luck Bondarenko. (Ukraine just need to win one match!, but better if they can win 2!!) ;)

Josh
Apr 26th, 2002, 12:41 PM
Israel def. Holland 2-0

Obziler def. Boogert 6-2 6-3
Smashnova def. Oremans 6-2 6-2

Kuilli
Apr 26th, 2002, 12:43 PM
Bulgaria leads Estonia 2-0 :sad:
Magdalena Maleeva def. Kaia Kanepi 6-4 6-2 :sad:

Doubles: Kaia Kanepi/Maret Ani vs. Bulgarian team

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 12:55 PM
what bad luck :(

Kaia :sad:

Frau Antje
Apr 26th, 2002, 01:09 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Tweety
Apr 26th, 2002, 01:10 PM
:eek: :sad:

Alek
Apr 26th, 2002, 01:24 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad: :mad:

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 01:32 PM
Group A P W L MW ML SW SL
Slovenia 2 2 0 05 01 11 02
Greece 2 1 1 03 03 06 07
Belarus 2 1 1 03 03 06 07
Ukraine 2 0 2 01 05 03 10


Jorn ........ Ukraine should be relegated , not only do they have to beat Greece but beat them convincingly........ so not looking good :(

Just glad Belarus should survive, need one win to make sure.

Slovenia can't be caught unless Belarus beat them 3-0 (6 sets to love) & Greece win 3-0 (6 sets to love)
then I also think they use head-to head records.

manuelanmaggielover
Apr 26th, 2002, 01:33 PM
way to go Maggie Maleeva! What a great week for her!:D and her country!:cool:

Monica_Rules
Apr 26th, 2002, 02:07 PM
YEAH MAGGIE!:D

ghosts
Apr 26th, 2002, 02:14 PM
Great matches for Maggie Maleeva and Dessi Topalova!!! :D
Go girls :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

jeanne
Apr 26th, 2002, 03:02 PM
Luxembourg leads Yugoslavia : 2-0

Anne Kremer def. Dragana Zaric in 2 sets

congrats Luxembourg :bounce:

well done Anne and Claudine :kiss:


http://www.claudineschaul.lu ;)

Jorn
Apr 26th, 2002, 03:05 PM
Slovenia leads Belarus 2-0!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


Maja def. Olga

Tina Pisnik also won!! :)


TBE, I was wanting Ukraine to win a match, so SLO was sure the be Group winner! now ithink SLO will have to met Estonia or Yug. tomorrow! (it better them have to met Israel, Lux.b or Bulgaria)

LUXXXAS
Apr 26th, 2002, 03:13 PM
Do you have any Poland-Turkey scores?

jeanne
Apr 26th, 2002, 03:25 PM
anyone know the score Greece vs Ukraine?
thanks

Kuilli
Apr 26th, 2002, 06:23 PM
Here are the results:

Group A
26 April
Slovenia def. Belarus 2-1:
Maja Matevzic (SLO) d. Olga Barabanschikova (BLR) 63 63
Tina Pisnik (SLO) d. Nadejda Ostrovskaya (BLR) 26 62 63
Tatiana Poutchek/Natasha Zvereva (BLR) d. Ajda Brumen/Tina Krizan (SLO) 62 06 63
Ukraine def. Greece 3-0:
Alyona Bondarenko (UKR) d. Maria Pavlidou (GRE) 36 63 63
Yulia Beygelzimer (UKR) d. Eleni Daniilidou (GRE) 61 36 75
Yulia Beygelzimer/Alyona Bondarenko (UKR) d. Eleni Daniilidou/Christina Zachariadou (GRE) 63 64

Group B
26 April
Israel def. Netherlands 2-1:
Tzipora Obziler (ISR) d. Kristie Boogert (NED) 62 63
Anna Smashnova (ISR) d. Miriam Oremans (NED) 62 62
Amanda Hopmans/Seda Noorlander (NED) d. Tzipora Obziler/Hila Rosen (ISR) 62 61
Romania def. Bosnia & Herzegovina 3-0:
Liana Balaci (ROM) d. Sandra Martinovic (BIH) 61 63
Magda Mihalache (ROM) d. Mervana Jugic-Salkic (BIH) 63 63
Raluca Ciochina/Magda Mihalache (ROM) d. Helena Besovic/Maja Mesanovic (BIH) 62 75

Group C
26 April
Bulgaria def. Estonia 2-1:
Desislava Topalova (BUL) d. Maret Ani (EST) 75 63
Magdalena Maleeva (BUL) d. Kaia Kanepi (EST) 64 62
Maret Ani/Kaia Kanepi (EST) d. Filipa Gabrovska/Radoslava Topalova (BUL) 64 61
Georgia def. Portugal 2-1:
Salome Devidze (GEO) d. Ana Catarina Nogueira (POR) 64 67(7) 86
Frederica Piedade (POR) d. Margalita Chakhnashvili (GEO) 61 57 61
Margalita Chakhnashvili/Salome Devidze (GEO) d. Angela Cardoso/ Neuza Silva (POR) 64 63

Group D
26 April
Luxembourg def. Yugoslavia 2-1:
Claudine Schaul (LUX) d. Katarina Daskovic (YUG) 46 64 64
Anne Kremer (LUX) d. Dragana Zaric (YUG) 62 61
Daniela Bercek/Katarina Daskovic (YUG) d. Celine Francois/Mandy Minella (LUX) 46 76(4) 62
Poland def. Turkey 2-1:
Joanna Sakowicz (POL) d. Merve Asimgil (TUR) 64 60
Ipek Senoglu (TUR) d. Katarzyna Straczy (POL) 64 60
Klaudia Jans/Joanna Sakowicz (POL) d. Ismet-Duygu Aksit-Oal/Ipek Senoglu (TUR) 46 75 61


Saturday 27 April
Play Off Round
Slovenia v Yugoslavia
Bulgaria v Ukraine
Luxembourg v Netherlands
Israel v Estonia


Bosnia & Herzegovina, Greece, Portugal and Turkey relegated to Europe/Africa Qualifying Group II
in 2003.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 06:25 PM
yes at last Natasha wins a match :bounce: even though it was a dead rubber :)


wow Ukraine winning 3-0 complicates things

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 06:33 PM
Group A final table


Group A P W L MW ML SW SL
Slovenia 3 3 0 07 02 16 05
Belarus 3 1 2 04 05 09 12
Ukraine 3 1 2 04 05 09 12
Greece 3 1 2 03 06 08 13



I guess Greece got relegated by virtue of sets won/loss and also if they took head to head between UKR & GRE.

so it worked out great :)

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 06:34 PM
how did Ukraine finish 2nd ???

Belarus beat them in meeting and also have a exact same sets won/loss ratio :confused: :confused: :confused:

Kuilli
Apr 26th, 2002, 06:58 PM
how did Ukraine finish 2nd ???
No idea, Eggy! :confused: I was just going to ask you the same thing.

Maybe, they made a mistake, but that's what they had on itf site:
http://www.itftennis.com/html/new/this_week/pdfs/Europe%20Africa%20Qualy%20Group%20I.PDF

AUSBOY
Apr 26th, 2002, 08:15 PM
Ukraine lost fewer games??

I think they then go to games lost after sets are equal

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 08:19 PM
I emailed ITF and got this back

Thank you for your e-mail. The situation you have pointed out had been
noticed as the results were received in the London office. Until we have
complete clarification on the situation though I cannot say why it is as it
is. The referee is in contact with the Fed Cup department and it is being
looked into as we speak.
I applaude you for your very careful calculations, they were being done here
at the same time to check the final results for the day.
Kind regards



AUSBOY ........ games won and lost won't come into it as Belarus bt Ukraine.

Kuilli
Apr 26th, 2002, 08:28 PM
Thanks, Eggy! :)

I guess we just have to wait for them to clarify the whole situation. Hopefully, Belarus will go on to playoffs.

They have removed tomorrow's playoff match-ups from the pdf file now. So, most likely there will be changes.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 26th, 2002, 09:25 PM
Kuilli just got bad news :(

Jane Fraser of ITF confirmed it for me.

In the Pool A Round Robin
Belarus, Greece and Ukraine all won only one tie thereby causing a three way
split in the points.
In this situation the rules for determining places in the round robin comes
into effect.
If only two nations had been tied it would have been decided on the round
robin head-to-head.
As three nations were tied, the number of matches (rubbers) won decides the
winner - this in effect took Greece out of the equation as they only won 3
rubbers and Belarus and Ukraine won 4.
That leaves two nations but the rules go on from this point, not back to the
head-to-head rule, they state that if the matches won at that point are
equal the number of sets won shall decide the winner
As you calculated, the sets won were the same, so it comes down to sets
lost,
again as you calculated, the set lost were the same, so it comes down to
games won deciding the winner.

A nailbiting finish but the Ukraine won 1 game more than Belarus.

I hope this doesn't put you off Fed Cup, it can be tantalisingly close as has been seen today.


:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

GoDominiqu
Apr 26th, 2002, 10:19 PM
1 game ! :eek:

Kuilli
Apr 26th, 2002, 10:26 PM
Sorry, Eggy! :(

Jane's explanation makes sense. I also thought that when Greece was out of the picture, they will look at the head-to-head between Belarus and Ukraine, but I guess that wasn't the case. :(

So, it came down to the difference in just 1 game. Wow! Can't get much closer than that! I wonder what would have they done if the games won and games lost would have been the same also...count points?

Things really turned around in Group A. Before today I thought that Ukraine will be the one most likely to be relegated, but now they are in the playoffs.

Lola
Apr 26th, 2002, 10:34 PM
CONGRATS, ROMANIAN GIRLS!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Monica_Rules
Apr 26th, 2002, 11:18 PM
OMG thats such a bitch for Belarus 1 game:eek:

Jorn
Apr 27th, 2002, 01:51 AM
1 games...:sad: NZ and Olga should just have lost 'only' 6-3, 6-3...or they should not have lost that set 0-6...but 2-6. :sad:

But as someone use to say, tenis is tenis...everything can happen.

polishprodigy
Apr 27th, 2002, 03:32 AM
Poland finally won! LOL! But 2-1 against Turkey is not that great. I'm glad Sakowicz won easily, but I can't believe Ipek beat Katia Straczy 6-4 6-0. The doubles match was close too! :p Oh well, atleast Poland will remain in this group and not be relegated! :) But still, I am disappointed. :(

TS
Apr 27th, 2002, 03:50 AM
Greece :( :sad: Good effort Maria...Eleni :( :confused: :confused: :confused: