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ChrisCologne
Oct 1st, 2005, 11:13 AM
Wer von Euch erinnert sich auch noch wehmütig an eine der besten deutschen Sandplatzspielerinnen der 90er, die zum Ende hin total einbrach+niemand wusste genau warum?

Sie hatte 3 grandiose Jahre, nahm Steffi in Berlin einen Satz 6-0 ab, gewann Houston gegen Novotna und Pierce, besagte Martinez und Sanchez, nur um dann gegen Martinez 2 Mal 6-0 6-0 abgeschossen zu werden und dann in der Versenkung zu verschwinden. Sie war sogar beim Masters, als Indoor-Anti-Spielerin, verlor gegen Date 3-6 0-6, in einem Jahr, das gar nicht ihr bestes Jahr war, glaube ich.

Als sie noch solide in den top30 stand+ich glaubte, sie bleibt dort, verlor sie bei Turnieren, in denen sie topgesetzt war, polnischer Sandplatz etc., gegen "Graupen", ebenso in den Grand Slams. Weiss jemand, woran das lag?
Sie war eine tolle Sandspielerin, leider war von vornherein klar, dass das Potential nicht ausbaufähig war. Gegen die hardhitters von heute wäre Sabine sicher nicht so chancenreich.

Ich vermisse diese tolle Zeit. Sie hätte noch mehr erreichen können.

pan
Oct 3rd, 2005, 12:57 PM
hatten wír diesen thread nicht schonmal? aber ja, ich vermisse sie auch! großartig ihre french open 94 und ihr fed cup-sieg über SANCHEZ-VICARIO! sie war mal no. 13 in der welt - was sie heute tatsächlich nicht mehr schaffen würde...

FARACHI
Mar 20th, 2007, 12:45 PM
Does anyone have contact information for Sabine Hack? She gave us some memorable evenings at VS Houston.

Nervenbuendel
Mar 20th, 2007, 01:48 PM
As far as I know she is married abroad - in the USA - or somewhere else. It should be quite difficult to get contact information.

crazillo
Mar 20th, 2007, 03:34 PM
Sie war interessant und hat eins der längsten Spiele gg. Novotna mal bestritten, 3. 20 h oder so. Aber heute würde sie wohl auch anders spielen müssen. Ihr Potential hat sie wohl mehr als ausgeschöpft.

In der Zeit, wo sie zurückfiel, war nunmal langsam eine Umstellung des Spiels zu beobachten. Dennoch hat sie immernoch mehr erreicht als viele Spielerinnen (und alle, die momentan aktiv sind aus GER). ;)

ChrisCologne
Mar 24th, 2007, 02:46 PM
I believe she is married to her former coach and training kids or whatever in the USA.

The Novotna match was the one in Houston in the event which she won against Pierce, wasn´t it?

ChrisCologne
Apr 14th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Mir ist gerade aufgefallen, dass ihr bestes Paris/Grand-Slam Resultat 1994 war. Danach ist sie 2 Jahre lang in den Grand Slams ganz übel auf die Nase gefallen. D.h. in den letzten 2 Jahren ihrer Karriere hat sie nicht mehr viel gerissen. War es aber nicht so, dass sie 1994 beim Masters war und 1995 noch gut auf der Tour dabei war?

Würde gern mal ihre Ergebnisse im Einzelnen 1993-1996 sehen

Mir scheint, dass sie nach dem Durchbruch 1993/1994 "satt", weil sie wußte, mit ihren Möglichkeiten habe ich das aktuell optimal Mögliche herausgeholt

Anders als z.B. Glass oder Weingärtner, die mit Verletzungen und Motivation zu kämpfen hatten

Und dann hat sie doch 1 Mal Martinez und Sanchez geschlagen und dann gegen Conchita 2 Mal hintereinander ne Doppelnull kassiert

Ist das korrekt

A Magicman
Apr 14th, 2007, 01:48 PM
Hatte sie nicht so eine ähnliche Spielweise wie Coetzer - sprich: war sie nicht eine menschliche Ballwand?! Ich habe sowas noch in Erinnerung, kann mich aber auch täuschen.

chaton
Apr 16th, 2007, 12:30 PM
Mir ist gerade aufgefallen, dass ihr bestes Paris/Grand-Slam Resultat 1994 war. Danach ist sie 2 Jahre lang in den Grand Slams ganz übel auf die Nase gefallen. D.h. in den letzten 2 Jahren ihrer Karriere hat sie nicht mehr viel gerissen. War es aber nicht so, dass sie 1994 beim Masters war und 1995 noch gut auf der Tour dabei war?

Würde gern mal ihre Ergebnisse im Einzelnen 1993-1996 sehen

Mir scheint, dass sie nach dem Durchbruch 1993/1994 "satt", weil sie wußte, mit ihren Möglichkeiten habe ich das aktuell optimal Mögliche herausgeholt

Anders als z.B. Glass oder Weingärtner, die mit Verletzungen und Motivation zu kämpfen hatten

Und dann hat sie doch 1 Mal Martinez und Sanchez geschlagen und dann gegen Conchita 2 Mal hintereinander ne Doppelnull kassiert

Ist das korrekt

Auf www.wtatour.com findest Du unter players/activity alle ihre Ergebnisse. Man kann sich dort die Jahre einzeln anzeigen lassen oder sogar mit "all years" alle Jahre zusammen...

chaton
Apr 16th, 2007, 12:34 PM
Auf www.wtatour.com findest Du unter players/activity alle ihre Ergebnisse. Man kann sich dort die Jahre einzeln anzeigen lassen oder sogar mit "all years" alle Jahre zusammen...

Sehe gerade, dass er Hack nicht findet. Man kommt aber ran, in dem man sich die Ergebnisse von Martinez anzeigen lässt (die findet man) und dann bei einem Spiel gegen Hack auf den Namen klickt. Dann ist man im Player profile von Sabine...

bruce goose
Mar 21st, 2008, 07:59 AM
I believe she is married to her former coach and training kids or whatever in the USA.

The Novotna match was the one in Houston in the event which she won against Pierce, wasn´t it?Although I remember seeing her name in the tennis section of the sports pages,I was just a kid back then and pro'bly didn't see her play.Someone posted that she specialized on clay courts.Did she play a defensive backboard style or did she aggressively go for her shots?Was she petite like Muller or was she a tall girl as Groenefeld is????

pan
Mar 21st, 2008, 05:34 PM
Although I remember seeing her name in the tennis section of the sports pages,I was just a kid back then and pro'bly didn't see her play.Someone posted that she specialized on clay courts.Did she play a defensive backboard style or did she aggressively go for her shots?Was she petite like Muller or was she a tall girl as Groenefeld is????

i've seen her play a couple of times on televion, but never live. she was an absolute claycourt-specialist with some surprisingly good results on slower hardcourts. her style was pretty defensive, she moonballed a lot and she was quick on her feet. her game seemed to be boring (but those pre-WILLIAMS-days a lot of girls played that kind of tennis, look at ARANTXA :rolleyes:) but her strength was her cleverness on court, her tricky tactics. definitely much more a MÜLLER than a GRÖNEFELD. ;) but she was mentally stronger, was never afraid of bigger names. but nevertheless she wouldn't be top100 in today's tennis, i'm sure.
such a nice girl, down to earth and friendly. i liked her a lot and i enjoyed seeing her play - and she has had a bunch of great results!

bruce goose
Mar 21st, 2008, 06:19 PM
i've seen her play a couple of times on televion, but never live. she was an absolute claycourt-specialist with some surprisingly good results on slower hardcourts. her style was pretty defensive, she moonballed a lot and she was quick on her feet. her game seemed to be boring (but those pre-WILLIAMS-days a lot of girls played that kind of tennis, look at ARANTXA :rolleyes:) but her strength was her cleverness on court, her tricky tactics. definitely much more a MÜLLER than a GRÖNEFELD. ;) but she was mentally stronger, was never afraid of bigger names. but nevertheless she wouldn't be top100 in today's tennis, i'm sure.
such a nice girl, down to earth and friendly. i liked her a lot and i enjoyed seeing her play - and she has had a bunch of great results!Thank you for your courtesy and information.No one had posted in this thread for a long time so I wasn't sure that I would even get an answer...and you're right,that moonball style of play was a lot more common back then than it is now...thanks again!:wavey:

bruce goose
Mar 21st, 2008, 10:06 PM
i've seen her play a couple of times on televion, but never live. she was an absolute claycourt-specialist with some surprisingly good results on slower hardcourts. her style was pretty defensive, she moonballed a lot and she was quick on her feet. her game seemed to be boring (but those pre-WILLIAMS-days a lot of girls played that kind of tennis, look at ARANTXA :rolleyes:) but her strength was her cleverness on court, her tricky tactics. definitely much more a MÜLLER than a GRÖNEFELD. ;) but she was mentally stronger, was never afraid of bigger names. but nevertheless she wouldn't be top100 in today's tennis, i'm sure.
such a nice girl, down to earth and friendly. i liked her a lot and i enjoyed seeing her play - and she has had a bunch of great results!You probably already knew this since you speak English so excellently,but a lot of the sports media guys in the US used to make little jokes about Sabine's last name because it's a derogatory word in the English language.Aside from that,they rarely spoke of her very much...it seems impossible to find any photographs of Sabine;do you have any from her playing days or even any recent ones?It would be better to see one where she isn't making a strained expression while attempting a shot.Even Kirilenko could look ugly if you caught her at the wrong angle while she's exerting herself.;)

pan
Mar 22nd, 2008, 10:47 AM
You probably already knew this since you speak English so excellently,but a lot of the sports media guys in the US used to make little jokes about Sabine's last name because it's a derogatory word in the English language.Aside from that,they rarely spoke of her very much...it seems impossible to find any photographs of Sabine;do you have any from her playing days or even any recent ones?It would be better to see one where she isn't making a strained expression while attempting a shot.Even Kirilenko could look ugly if you caught her at the wrong angle while she's exerting herself.;)

you're welcome! :wavey:

and yes, i knew this. her name is also a not so beautiful one in the german language. i joked with friends a lot that if she would ever marry a man called "braten", her name would be "hack-braten" what means "meat loaf" in english. ;)

unfortunately i just found two images of her in the net:

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tenniscollectables.com/hackauto.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.tenniscollectables.com/autoitems.htm&h=208&w=149&sz=30&hl=de&start=1&tbnid=h2vkwlXEeoNN7M:&tbnh=105&tbnw=75&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsabine%2Bhack%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dde%26s a%3DG (http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tenniscollectables.com/hackauto.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.tenniscollectables.com/autoitems.htm&h=208&w=149&sz=30&hl=de&start=1&tbnid=h2vkwlXEeoNN7M:&tbnh=105&tbnw=75&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsabine%2Bhack%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dde%26s a%3DG)

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/52810297.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26c%3DViewImages%26k%3D2%26d% 3D780858ABC91EC214A62975BE23A8270CA40A659CEC4C8CB6&imgrefurl=http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx%3Fmid%3D52810297%26epmid%3D2%26partner %3DGoogle&h=416&w=594&sz=61&hl=de&start=2&tbnid=EjcGA2H2mSXt9M:&tbnh=95&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsabine%2Bhack%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dde%26s a%3DG

bruce goose
Mar 22nd, 2008, 12:24 PM
you're welcome! :wavey:

and yes, i knew this. her name is also a not so beautiful one in the german language. i joked with friends a lot that if she would ever marry a man called "braten", her name would be "hack-braten" what means "meat loaf" in english. ;)

unfortunately i just found two images of her in the net:

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tenniscollectables.com/hackauto.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.tenniscollectables.com/autoitems.htm&h=208&w=149&sz=30&hl=de&start=1&tbnid=h2vkwlXEeoNN7M:&tbnh=105&tbnw=75&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsabine%2Bhack%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dde%26s a%3DG

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/52810297.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26c%3DViewImages%26k%3D2%26d% 3D780858ABC91EC214A62975BE23A8270CA40A659CEC4C8CB6&imgrefurl=http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx%3Fmid%3D52810297%26epmid%3D2%26partner %3DGoogle&h=416&w=594&sz=61&hl=de&start=2&tbnid=EjcGA2H2mSXt9M:&tbnh=95&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsabine%2Bhack%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dde%26s a%3DGThanks for trying with the photos;I also asked another German fellow to help me because I'm sure that she's much more popular in Deutschland than she was in North America.I've seen both of these photos in my own search and the first one doesn't afford a good look at her face due to the sun glare and Sabine's exertion.The second one is a little better but I wasn't sure if it was Sabine when I originally saw it.I recognized Huber and Graf right away,of course,though I'm unfamiliar with the taller gal who's on Graf's other side...I'm sure that one of us will catch a better look at Sabine eventually.:wavey:

pan
Mar 22nd, 2008, 01:22 PM
she's maybe more popular in germany than in america, but she isn't famous or a celebrity or something. and she wasn't when she was playing. in the 90s the german media was interested in GRAF and BECKER, less in STICH and HUBER, but not really into the players beyond the top 10. (great days for german tennis, nowadays only hardcore-fans know the names of the german top100-players.) on top of that has HACK always been a shy and down-to-earth player in the background.

btw, the taller girl on GRAFs other side is CHRISTINA SINGER. :)

bruce goose
Mar 22nd, 2008, 01:57 PM
she's maybe more popular in germany than in america, but she isn't famous or a celebrity or something. and she wasn't when she was playing. in the 90s the german media was interested in GRAF and BECKER, less in STICH and HUBER, but not really into the players beyond the top 10. (great days for german tennis, nowadays only hardcore-fans know the names of the german top100-players.) on top of that has HACK always been a shy and down-to-earth player in the background.

btw, the taller girl on GRAFs other side is CHRISTINA SINGER. :)You're right,it really is amazing how little you hear of German female players nowadays compared to when Graf was playing.Maybe her success motivated your tennis federation to develop more young gals back then???(obviously,you know much more than I do here)I remember Singer's name only because it sticks out in one's mind easily though I can't recall if she ever had any big moments.

It's funny how the German media works sometimes as with the example of Vanessa Henke--who is much more beautiful than 99% of actresses or models.It's impossible to find pictures of her whereas in the US even a low-ranked girl like Harkleroad is popular with lots of attention given her way.Still,Sabine DID win four tournaments so I suspect that there MUST be some decent pics of her somewhere despite her shyness...I'll catch one eventually.:)

pan
Mar 23rd, 2008, 11:09 AM
Still,Sabine DID win four tournaments so I suspect that there MUST be some decent pics of her somewhere despite her shyness...I'll catch one eventually.:)

good luck, dude! :)

bruce goose
Mar 23rd, 2008, 05:45 PM
good luck, dude! :)Thanks:)...the good Lord gave me a brainstorm and I remembered 'DiNaPic' who is a photographer AND German.It turns out that he has some negatives from Sabine's playing days.:D

ChrisCologne
May 4th, 2008, 09:42 PM
As the clay season now starts, it sadly reminds of the prime years of Sabine in 1994 and 1995. She did never come back to full strength in her final 2 years.

In fact, next to the injury plague in those years, I just surfed the wtatour.com to find out what I thought I remembered to be true:

Sabine´s 1995 was as solid as 1993 and 1994, but when it came to the French Open, there came a significant loss which -tragically- even happened twice within two month: She lost to Conchita Martinez TWICE 0-6, 0-6. As she had beaten the clay specialist -as she was too- twice in the 2 years before, I think that showed Sabine that she was not at full motivation anymore. She was thought to be a sensible person. Maybe she got broken mentally after that. She even lost against no names on clay after that.

I am sad she was not able to retire in her prime and that the WTA is not able to create a full profile for a former top20 player.

bruce goose
May 4th, 2008, 09:56 PM
As the clay season now starts, it sadly reminds of the prime years of Sabine in 1994 and 1995. She did never come back to full strength in her final 2 years.

In fact, next to the injury plague in those years, I just surfed the wtatour.com to find out what I thought I remembered to be true:

Sabine´s 1995 was as solid as 1993 and 1994, but when it came to the French Open, there came a significant loss which -tragically- even happened twice within two month: She lost to Conchita Martinez TWICE 0-6, 0-6. As she had beaten the clay specialist -as she was too- twice in the 2 years before, I think that showed Sabine that she was not at full motivation anymore. She was thought to be a sensible person. Maybe she got broken mentally after that. She even lost against no names on clay after that.

I am sad she was not able to retire in her prime and that the WTA is not able to create a full profile for a former top20 player.Yes,good point;the Tour often focuses ONLY on the more glamorous stars while they tend to forget some other high-quality players.