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kabuki
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:29 PM
It looks like Jen will be back for the third act of her career. (Every good drama generally has three acts :D )

Act 1 - Teen Queen Wunderkind who tragically falls on her own sword.

Act 2 - Comeback Kid fulfills early promise, returns to the game better than ever, wins Slams, ascends to #1, but ultimately fades and falls to injury.

Act 3 - ???


Discuss! :D

Stamp Paid
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Shes going to win the Golden Grand Slam in 2008.

kabuki
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:35 PM
I feel like Jen will struggle at first to find her form. Obviously her body will dictate what she is capable of, but it will take her six months to round into form, in time for Wimbledon. (Maybe RG) The problem is, I think to be competitive, she will have to come back better than ever (again) to be competitive at the top levels. The top ten is looking very crowded and competitive to me. I think Jen will have a productive 2-4 years (provided she is healthy), but no slams, culminating in a farewell tour heading into the US Open 07 - 09. Or, maybe i will be eating my words on this someday, as Jen has certainly proved people, including me, wrong before.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:36 PM
It looks like Jen will be back for the third act of her career. (Every good drama generally has three acts :D )

Act 1 - Teen Queen Wunderkind who tragically falls on her own sword.

Act 2 - Comeback Kid fulfills early promise, returns to the game better than ever, wins Slams, ascends to #1, but ultimately fades and falls to injury.

Act 3 - ???


Discuss! :D

I think it's going to take her several months to find her form. Jen always comebacks after long layoffs looking rusty and a little bit pudgy. I don't expect anything near a good result until Miami and I think it will take her until about the summer hard court season/US Open to get her old form back.

She can definitely crack the top 10 again and still reach the quarterfinals and semifinals of Grand Slams, but I'm not sure if she can pull a Mary Pierce type resurgence. Jennifer's game relies on footwork a lot more than Mary's does, and it's sort of inevitable you're going to lose a step at 30 (which Jennifer will be next year).

It'll be good to see her back though :)

bigshow21
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:38 PM
She is going to be freaking awesome! Her long, hard training and practicing days will pay off. She will win a few titles and most importantly, win grand slams as well! If you guys thought Mary Pierce did spectacular this year for her age, you haven't seen anything yet. Jen is the big show and will prove it once again!! Go Jen!!!! :bounce:

CrossCourt~Rally
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:41 PM
She is going to be freaking awesome! Her long, hard training and practicing days will pay off. She will win a few titles and most importantly, win grand slams as well! If you guys thought Mary Pierce did spectacular this year for her age, you haven't seen anything yet. Jen is the big show and will prove it once again!! Go Jen!!!! :bounce:

NO 1, GRAND SLAMS and winning records against all current top 10 players
:woohoo: :drive: :woohoo:

bigshow21
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:42 PM
NO 1, GRAND SLAMS and winning records against all current top 10 players
:woohoo: :drive: :woohoo:

You got it!!!!! :worship: :yeah: :) :woohoo:

Oneofakind0490
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:44 PM
She will try and have a decent season. Not much succes as shes rusty. Will retire at end of year as she sees she can't play on a high level.

thelittlestelf
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:45 PM
Her ball striking abilities will never go away, and she looks pretty fit right now. It should be interesting :)

bigshow21
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:46 PM
She will try and have a decent season. Not much succes as shes rusty. Will retire at end of year as she sees she can't play on a high level.

Pfft! Retirement?? ....What is that?? :rolleyes: She said herself she isn't ready yet. She still has a few more years left in her.

Martian Willow
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:46 PM
I give her six months. :)

kabuki
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:53 PM
Pfft! Retirement?? ....What is that?? :rolleyes: She said herself she isn't ready yet. She still has a few more years left in her.

I agree that if Jen's body holds out, she will give it a go for at least more than one season.

kabuki
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:54 PM
I give her six months. :)

For physical reasons?

Chrissie-fan
Sep 25th, 2005, 09:00 PM
She'll do just fine. I have faith in her. :smoke:

Brandon85
Sep 25th, 2005, 09:03 PM
she will take a while to get to playing well. i see a not so good 2006. possibly a good us open though? 2007 may be her year to take out a grand slam!

lindsayno1
Sep 25th, 2005, 10:18 PM
i hope she thrases maria Sharapova!

jenny161185
Sep 25th, 2005, 10:21 PM
I just can t wait to see Jen back on her =- shes nothing left to prove but she still really wants it so it will be great!

jfk
Sep 25th, 2005, 11:04 PM
I'd say there have been 4 acts to her career. First was the teen phenom era. Second was the off-the-tour/failed comeback era. Third was the slam champ era. And now this is the fourth and final chapter. One last comeback.

As I've said in other threads, she's not someone who can make immediate comebacks. My guess is that she'll lose early in her AO warmup, but win an upset or two at the AO, making the 4R or QF. She'll stumble at Doha and Dubai. Make the semis at Miami. Have a decent claycourt season....maybe semis or finals at Rome, but not have as much success at the French or Wimbledon. She'll finally come into her own during the American hardcourt season....whatever that truly means.

Mother_Marjorie
Sep 25th, 2005, 11:18 PM
i hope she thrases maria Sharapova!

I'm sure you do. But at some point, Lindsay would have to play her as well :lol:

LoveFifteen
Sep 25th, 2005, 11:22 PM
I hope Jen comes back strong ... her matches are always interesting ...

Lindsayfan32
Sep 25th, 2005, 11:29 PM
It looks like Jen will be back for the third act of her career. (Every good drama generally has three acts :D )

Act 1 - Teen Queen Wunderkind who tragically falls on her own sword.

Act 2 - Comeback Kid fulfills early promise, returns to the game better than ever, wins Slams, ascends to #1, but ultimately fades and falls to injury.

Act 3 - ???


Discuss! :D

I have followed Jen since 1990. The way I see it we could get 2001 - 2002 Jen winning three grand slams and living the fairytale she deserved after the first part of her career. Or we'll get the Jen that is not really motovated train and the results will show it. But either way I don't want her to retire because of her injury. Let hope its 2001 - 2002 Jen that comes back.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 25th, 2005, 11:43 PM
I think she will come back strong since she made sure that she was ready to come back and not rush into it.

Gowza
Sep 26th, 2005, 12:37 AM
she'll be top 10 still i think, it is looking crowded but she'll be up there, if not she will still be competing well with the elite players. the depth of womens tennis is improving a lot (still bad compared to mens tennis by a long shot) in that now rather than 2 or 3 players competing at the top we pretty much have the full top 10 competing so if capriati doesnt make the top 10 it's going to be because the depth is picking up and it's toguher to get top 10 not because she isn't good enough to be in there which means she should at least float in and out of the top 10 if not for a solid spot. she will be a slam contender i think but not one of the favourites, more like a kuznetsova/dementieva/mauresmo type contender.

yukon145
Sep 26th, 2005, 12:39 AM
as long as she's happy playing again and healthy, it will make me happy too.

Knizzle
Sep 26th, 2005, 12:44 AM
i hope she thrases maria Sharapova!

I'd be interested to see them play now.

Tatiana Panova
Sep 26th, 2005, 01:26 AM
I think it's going to be very difficult for her at first. Every six months the tour moves on in terms of power and movement I think, and I think the game has moved on a bit since she was last at the top. Its even more physical now! But she's such a great fighter and ball striker she can be back at the top - it might just take a while - maybe even a year or so before she's contending again.

K-Dog
Sep 26th, 2005, 01:42 AM
For Jennifer to be as great as she once was, she needs to go for winners and perphaps go to a more powerful frame, lighter tension, or just go for more cold-blooded winners. When she was on top, she hit winner after winner on the forehand, and even some on the backhand. When we last saw her, she was too much of a backboard/counterpuncher. For her to have success, she has to let the forehand fly a little bit. I don't know if Jen's serve is good enough now either. While Elena gets away with it, Elena has some of the most powerful groundstrokes and some of the quickest legs in the sport. Jen isn't as athletic or as quick as Elena, although she is still pretty quick. Jen can't be one-dimensional at all, she needs to mix solid defense, with power.

FanDeJen
Sep 26th, 2005, 01:53 AM
She will win at least one Grand Slam ... canīt wait to see her back.

tennnisfannn
Sep 26th, 2005, 02:00 AM
Peopel tend to find form if injury is not related to the feet, ankle or knee. Her movement should not be too affected and that is her greatest strength. Right now there are enough of the top tenners also ailing so she really could catch up. She won't be winning titles by the dozen coz that is not her forte but expect an unexpected slam on any surface.

actor1
Sep 26th, 2005, 02:00 AM
hurry back jen. we need you.

Stamp Paid
Sep 26th, 2005, 04:54 AM
I'd be interested to see them play now.

If shes moving well, she has that Kim-Clijsters type game that Maria cant deal with. I think Jen would win.

Zhao
Sep 26th, 2005, 04:59 AM
look at Mary Pierce.. she's still in slam finals
Jenn can do the same

one thing for sure: Serena 2002 will be back soon... she just loved to be challenged by Jenn :hearts:

TeamUSA#1
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:25 AM
What is all this BS talk about the game is so much better since last year?!? IF anything, the level of play this year has been abysmal, save Kimmie Clijsters.... There are a few players in the top 10 right now, who really shouldn't be given their level of play.

I will differ with most here, and say that Jen will come back strong, doing well in Sydney (QFs) and well at the AO. I dont think she will start slow at all, and this is why:
1. Here injury had nothing to do with her back or legs, thus not hampering her movement, one of her biggest weapons. (Unlike her back injury in 2004 which hampered her movement and prevented her from training).
2. She has been working out since the spring, and is in good shape (she looks really fit and lighter in the pics we have seen of her this year).
3. She has awesome ball striking abilities, and as Stefano has said, it doesnt take long for Jen to get her timing back.
4. She will have been practicing for 4 months when she returns---she'll be grooved.
5. There will be no expectations of Jen, and that is when she is the most dangerous.... I bet she wins a Slam next year.......

leokennan
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:38 AM
i believe she had picked up some courage from LADY PIERCE

Brooks.
Sep 26th, 2005, 06:04 AM
If shes moving well, she has that Kim-Clijsters type game that Maria cant deal with. I think Jen would win.

took the words out of my mouth ;) :worship:

Brooks.
Sep 26th, 2005, 06:05 AM
What is all this BS talk about the game is so much better since last year?!? IF anything, the level of play this year has been abysmal, save Kimmie Clijsters.... There are a few players in the top 10 right now, who really shouldn't be given their level of play.

I will differ with most here, and say that Jen will come back strong, doing well in Sydney (QFs) and well at the AO. I dont think she will start slow at all, and this is why:
1. Here injury had nothing to do with her back or legs, thus not hampering her movement, one of her biggest weapons. (Unlike her back injury in 2004 which hampered her movement and prevented her from training).
2. She has been working out since the spring, and is in good shape (she looks really fit and lighter in the pics we have seen of her this year).
3. She has awesome ball striking abilities, and as Stefano has said, it doesnt take long for Jen to get her timing back.
4. She will have been practicing for 4 months when she returns---she'll be grooved.
5. There will be no expectations of Jen, and that is when she is the most dangerous.... I bet she wins a Slam next year.......

i'd be shocked if jen didnt at least get back to the top 10 with a few semis (or maybe better :D ) in slams before its all said and done ;)

DEETHELICK
Sep 26th, 2005, 01:20 PM
I have every faith that Jen will ultimately hit peak form. She has such a natural talent when hitting the ball, very much something you can't lose.

If she comes back as fit as she was before and realises she needs to go for her winners as every player in the Top 10 is aggressive, she'll be fine.

her combination of superb ball strking and power will see her through against most. She needs her fitness against the rest.

Good luck Jen, can't wait to see you back on court! :D

Maryamator
Sep 26th, 2005, 01:59 PM
i hope she thrases maria Sharapova!
yeah and she wins a grandslam lets go jenn

jfk
Sep 26th, 2005, 02:33 PM
What is all this BS talk about the game is so much better since last year?!? IF anything, the level of play this year has been abysmal, save Kimmie Clijsters.... There are a few players in the top 10 right now, who really shouldn't be given their level of play.

I will differ with most here, and say that Jen will come back strong, doing well in Sydney (QFs) and well at the AO. I dont think she will start slow at all, and this is why:
1. Here injury had nothing to do with her back or legs, thus not hampering her movement, one of her biggest weapons. (Unlike her back injury in 2004 which hampered her movement and prevented her from training).
2. She has been working out since the spring, and is in good shape (she looks really fit and lighter in the pics we have seen of her this year).
3. She has awesome ball striking abilities, and as Stefano has said, it doesnt take long for Jen to get her timing back.
4. She will have been practicing for 4 months when she returns---she'll be grooved.
5. There will be no expectations of Jen, and that is when she is the most dangerous.... I bet she wins a Slam next year.......
Those are all excellent points. It really all depends on how fit and match tough Jen will be from the outset. Her initial performance at the start of 2004 after returning from injury was not good. She improved throughout the year and had success on clay and on the hardcourts. This upcoming comeback is different though in that she will be starting on the Australian hardcourts, arguably her best surface.

In terms of ranking, even an average Jen would probably be ranked higher than players like Petrova and Schnyder. I don't like how Jen's game matches up against the Belgians though. If Jen can somehow reach her top form, she could be top 5. If she doesn't, top 10 is still likely IMO. Just depends on how injuries factor in.

wateva
Sep 26th, 2005, 03:19 PM
definitely top ten!

Jenny.C.Fan
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:49 PM
i think it may take her while, but she is such a natural ball striker that she can easily fit back into the top ten as soon as she gets a few results and a little run together the rest of the tour better watch out because i believe she will hit top form, she's been working hard and deserves a successful comeback the tour hasn't been the same without her.

serenafan08
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:58 PM
Jennifer knows how to spice things up on tour. It almost seems a little boring without her playing right now. I really hope the other players use her as a role model - don't come back from an injury unless it's completely healed!!!!! Jennifer is doing things the right way, and that's very admirable. I won't lie; I'm not a big fan of her. But I do recognize good things when I see them, and it's really good to see that she's waiting until she's at 100% to come back. If she's fit and healthy, Jennifer will make some noise when she comes back.

Muffin the Mule
Sep 26th, 2005, 06:02 PM
She needs some decent draws in the early part of the year, we don't wanna see her up against the likes of Sharapova or Davenport in first and second rounds. If she gets them, I think she could be around the Top 20 by mid-summer which would represent a real achievement to build on for the rest of the year.

Once Jenn is in a position where she is seeded for most events, she could really start to do some damage. She is certainly good enough to get back in the Top 10.

I for one can't wait to see her back! :bounce:

Dexter
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:00 PM
Top10 probably...

TeamUSA#1
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:04 PM
She needs some decent draws in the early part of the year, we don't wanna see her up against the likes of Sharapova or Davenport in first and second rounds. If she gets them, I think she could be around the Top 20 by mid-summer which would represent a real achievement to build on for the rest of the year.

Once Jenn is in a position where she is seeded for most events, she could really start to do some damage. She is certainly good enough to get back in the Top 10.

I for one can't wait to see her back! :bounce:


This might be a moot point, as the WTA are strongly considering bringing back the Special Seed Rule for players returning from injury. Based on where she was when she went out, she would be seeded 7-10 for a # of tournaments.

mn73
Sep 27th, 2005, 11:05 AM
I agree that Jen will still have Top 10 potential, but remember she will have NO RANKING when she starts next year and could face a big name in the FIRST ROUND at the Australian Open and early at all following events - it's tough to get your ranking up when that keeps happening, and Jen's record against big-name players has not been that great in recent years.

The biggest factor for Jen will be the 'nothing-to-lose' factor I think. I think that is what will make her most dangerous next year.

Welcome back Jen :bounce:

*abby*
Sep 27th, 2005, 12:40 PM
if this comeback is anything like her last one she is gonna come back swinging for the fences and that is when she is gonna kick ass cos she has nothing to lose she wont care she cant fall any further down the rankings rite?
so long as she has fun while shes out there i reckon she will be around for a good while yet :D

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Oct 27th, 2005, 08:49 AM
i think she will make top 20 and then ill reevaluate im not sure how well prepared she will be shes a great player and can win tough matches but against players like clijsters and sharapova i think she would have some trouble.

Williams Rulez
Oct 27th, 2005, 10:15 AM
i hope she comes back strong... playing aggressive tennis... i love it when she does tt... :)