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tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 05:25 AM
Serena having won the first edition of the China Open, if Venus wins this weekend, she and Serena will be the first sisters pair to win the same tournament in its first 2 years of inception.

This is very significant and a unique opportunity. Once she does it, it will never be repeated here at this same tournament again.
Venus and Serena will always be the first Sister pair to win it back-to-back, the first 2 years of its inception.

Can she be denied?

If Venus is successful, the archives on the China Open might look like this years from now. It is assumed China open has become the 5 th slam by then.

History Of The Beking Open

Past winners

2004 Serena Williams (*)
2005 Venus Williams (*)

....





(*) Venus Williams and Serena Williams are sisters; Venus is the oldest by a year. They also hold titles in the other sister major slam events. They were the most successful sister pair in tennis at the turn the last century and beginning of this century. They revolutionized the sport with by their power, speed, athletism and all-around game. Venus later became lethal with her net game. Both had power serves, routinely serving over 185KMH up to a speed of 229KMH, which was in man territory at the time. The sisters had varied interests outside tennis, and made tennis more popular in the general public in the US and around the World. They were also entrepreneurs and own and run their own companies while still competing

Jennifer North
Sep 22nd, 2005, 05:27 AM
well, she's the best left in the field anyway

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 05:40 AM
well, she's the best left in the field anyway

Well the WTA number 1 ranked and number 1 seeded player, Maria S. is still in the draw.
Although I am optimistic about Venus winning this, nothing should be taken for granted these days. This week alone has seen its share of upsets.
A match is not won until the umpire calls the final score.

Jennifer North
Sep 22nd, 2005, 05:51 AM
Well the number ranked and seeded player, Maria is still in the draw.
Although I am optimistic about Venus winning this, nothing should be taken for granted these days. This week alone has seen its share of upsets.
A match is not won until the umpire calls the final score.

Venus has the mental edge over Maria at this moment, and should be slightly favored to win in case they meet

tennisIlove09
Sep 22nd, 2005, 06:14 AM
100 bonus points is looking really nice right about now

K-Dog
Sep 22nd, 2005, 06:46 AM
Even though exo's mean nothing in terms of head-to-head, they sometimes can affect dynamics between players mentally. Maria clearly tried in Seoul, but Venus' game is just a touch better at the moment. Venus will have to work hard to win here.

Williams Rulez
Sep 22nd, 2005, 07:43 AM
i hope venus wins here... :)

new-york
Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:36 AM
Well the WTA number 1 ranked and number 1 seeded player, Maria S. is still in the draw.
Although I am optimistic about Venus winning this, nothing should be taken for granted these days. This week alone has seen its share of upsets.
A match is not won until the umpire calls the final score.

she's really able to win, but let's be prudent, i'm with you. go Venus.

Odd
Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:48 AM
Serena having won the first edition of the China Open, if Venus wins this weekend, she and Serena will be the first sisters pair to win the same tournament in its first 2 years of inception.

This is very significant and a unique opportunity. Once she does it, it will never be repeated here at this same tournament again.
Venus and Serena will always be the first Sister pair to win it back-to-back, the first 2 years of its inception.

Can she be denied?

I hope Venus wins, but I can't see how this is a significant achievement, well an achievement on the same par as something like "First sisters to meet in the final of 4 consecutive grand slams". It's still a cute piece of trivia though i guess.

Sam L
Sep 22nd, 2005, 10:48 AM
She won't be denied!

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 11:59 AM
I hope Venus wins, but I can't see how this is a significant achievement, well an achievement on the same par as something like "First sisters to meet in the final of 4 consecutive grand slams". It's still a cute piece of trivia though i guess.

Well, wishful thinking of fan I guess. But here is my rationale.

Things are moving very fast in China, the country is becoming more powerful on the world stage and getting more influence.

Few years from now, this event could become a 5th grand slam as the organizers are aiming. And if it does, the archives would become all of the sudden important and you'll see.





History Of The Beking Open

Past winners

2004 Serena Williams (*)
2005 Venus Williams (*)

....





(*) Venus Williams and Serena Williams are sisters; Venus is the oldest by a year. They also hold titles in the other sister major slam events. They were the most successful sister pair in tennis at the turn the last century and beginning of this century. They revolutionized the sport with by their power, speed, athletism and all-around game. Venus later became lethal with her net game. Both had power serves, routinely serving over 185KMH up to a speed of 229KMH, which was in man territory at the time. The sisters had varied interests outside tennis, and made tennis more popular in the general public in the US and around the World. They were also entrepreneurs and own and run their own companies while still competing.

vettipooh
Sep 22nd, 2005, 12:05 PM
That piece of history lies in Venus' hands!! Go Venus!! Add another page!! :yeah:

volta
Sep 22nd, 2005, 12:09 PM
bring it home Vee :hearts: :bounce:

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 12:17 PM
A step closer to making history after first victory.

new-york
Sep 22nd, 2005, 12:20 PM
A step closer to making history after first victory.

:woohoo:

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 01:25 PM
She is on course to meet Maria again.
And if Venus wins, would she climb in the ranking?

kaki
Sep 22nd, 2005, 01:28 PM
She is on course to meet Maria again.
And if Venus wins, would she climb in the ranking?

Did you watch Venus match? I read on yahoo that she took a time out to treat her knee,so what are your thoughts?

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 01:33 PM
Did you watch Venus match? I read on yahoo that she took a time out to treat her knee,so what are your thoughts?

Have not seen the match. I think CCTV-5 might show it later.
Your post prompted me to read the yahoo as well. They said it had no effect so I hope it is not that serious.
Maybe we'll see an account of her press conference where she may or may not talk about it.

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 01:45 PM
Can't wait to see this picture again after the final

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050922/capt.xhg11309221257.china_tennis_open_xhg113.jpg

kaki
Sep 22nd, 2005, 01:49 PM
Can't wait to see this picture again after the final

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050922/capt.xhg11309221257.china_tennis_open_xhg113.jpg

Dis-moi,tu es ivoirien?

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 03:04 PM
Dis-moi,tu es ivoirien?

Oui. Mais je change de drapeau de temps en temps.
Et vous, etes-vous congolais?

Ryan
Sep 22nd, 2005, 04:01 PM
Well, wishful thinking of fan I guess. But here is my rationale.

Things are moving very fast in China, the country is becoming more powerful on the world stage and getting more influence.

Few years from now, this event could become a 5th grand slam as the organizers are aiming. And if it does, the archives would become all of the sudden important and you'll see.





History Of The Beking Open

Past winners

2004 Serena Williams (*)
2005 Venus Williams (*)

....





(*) Venus Williams and Serena Williams are sisters; Venus is the oldest by a year. They also hold titles in the other sister major slam events. They were the most successful sister pair in tennis at the turn the last century and beginning of this century. They revolutionized the sport with by their power, speed, athletism and all-around game. Venus later became lethal with her net game. Both had power serves, routinely serving over 185KMH up to a speed of 229KMH, which was in man territory at the time. The sisters had varied interests outside tennis, and made tennis more popular in the general public in the US and around the World. They were also entrepreneurs and own and run their own companies while still competing.


:tape: Except it isn't a slam now, so the fact that they won wont mean anything.

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 04:09 PM
:tape: Except it isn't a slam now, so the fact that they won wont mean anything.

There several factors of significant meaning

First 2 years of inception
2 Sisters winning back-to-back titles at inception of an event to become grand slam later
I am sure the US Open or Autralian open were not always grand slams, however their history would mention the early years, including milestone like inception.

Ryan
Sep 22nd, 2005, 04:11 PM
There several factors of significant meaning

First 2 years of inception
2 Sisters winning back-to-back titles at inception of an event to become grand slam later
I am sure the US Open or Autralian open were not always grand slams, however their history would mention the early years, including milestone like inception.




Riiiight. Well, the China Open aint a Grand Slam yet. It's not even a Tier 1. I guarantee it wont be bigger than Filderstadt/Stuttgart 5 years from now, let alone Miami.

And, so what if Venus wins it? They dont play tennis as a team, so if Venus does win, it's not any more special because Serena won the year before.

TomTennis
Sep 22nd, 2005, 04:18 PM
i really dont think there is gonna be a fifth slam, at least not for like 10 years yet! lol.

First it will have to become a tier 1, then a Super tier 1 (like Miami, Indian Well - which i think would be the best option) THEN a Slam, and i really dont think the wtatour are just gonna hand out slams! lol.

I really hope China becomes a 2week tier1!!!!

Anyway, yes i would love Venus to win this! Go Venus!!!

tennisbum79
Sep 22nd, 2005, 05:56 PM
Riiiight. Well, the China Open aint a Grand Slam yet. It's not even a Tier 1. I guarantee it wont be bigger than Filderstadt/Stuttgart 5 years from now, let alone Miami..
I know it is not yet a grand slam yet, I am wishing it become one in the future.
As I said, it is the effect of irrational exhuberance from a Venus fan.

And, so what if Venus wins it? They dont play tennis as a team, so if Venus does win, it's not any more special because Serena won the year before.
On this one, I beg to differ. Venus and Serean, although not a team, already have made history as Sister Act by meeting in in grand slam finals. Wimbledon historians even had to did into their archives to find comparable sibbling records.

tennisbum79
Sep 23rd, 2005, 11:21 AM
Serena having won the first edition of the China Open, if Venus wins this weekend, she and Serena will be the first sisters pair to win the same tournament in its first 2 years of inception.

This is very significant and a unique opportunity. Once she does it, it will never be repeated here at this same tournament again.
Venus and Serena will always be the first Sister pair to win it back-to-back, the first 2 years of its inception.

Can she be denied?

If Venus is successful, the archives on the China Open might look like this years from now. It is assumed China open has become the 5 th slam by then.

History Of The Beking Open

Past winners

2004 Serena Williams (*)
2005 Venus Williams (*)

....





(*) Venus Williams and Serena Williams are sisters; Venus is the oldest by a year. They also hold titles in the other sister major slam events. They were the most successful sister pair in tennis at the turn the last century and beginning of this century. They revolutionized the sport with by their power, speed, athletism and all-around game. Venus later became lethal with her net game. Both had power serves, routinely serving over 185KMH up to a speed of 229KMH, which was in man territory at the time. The sisters had varied interests outside tennis, and made tennis more popular in the general public in the US and around the World. They were also entrepreneurs and own and run their own companies while still competing



***History making run aborted***
Venus has withdrawn due to knee injury

Nimi
Sep 23rd, 2005, 11:26 AM
Is this an attempt to joke? Or is this some serious ignorance? :confused:

twight6
Sep 23rd, 2005, 11:31 AM
Is this an attempt to joke? Or is this some serious ignorance? :confused:

:confused: What???

tennisbum79
Sep 23rd, 2005, 11:31 AM
Is this an attempt to joke? Or is this some serious ignorance? :confused:

Well it was done in a spirit of good fun. And had Venus continued and won the title, it would have been history making for the sisters.
I do not see any ignorance here >

kaki
Sep 23rd, 2005, 11:41 AM
Oui. Mais je change de drapeau de temps en temps.
Et vous, etes-vous congolais?

Je suis Congolaise effectivement

tennisbum79
Sep 23rd, 2005, 11:50 AM
Je suis Congolaise effectivement

Je m'excuse, j'ai automatiquement assume que vous etiez un homme.
Mais, croyez-moi, je ne suis pas chauvinist:angel: :scratch: