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Sinnet
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:28 PM
There's a news story on a German tennis website (I'll get the link and edit this post with it when I find it again) about Richard Williams contacting Rick Macci (who worked with both Venus and Serena when they were younger) to set up practice sessions for Serena only. Richard's quote was something like "There are some technical problems with Serena's game, and Rick has offered to help."

Hopefully this is a step toward Serena getting her shots all fixed up. :)

Kabezya
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:29 PM
Rick Macci? Is this the person some have said the Williams family didn't give credit to in terms of the development of both sisters?

tenn_ace
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:30 PM
There's a news story on a German tennis website (I'll get the link and edit this post with it when I find it again) about Richard Williams contacting Rick Macci (who worked with both Venus and Serena when they were younger) to set up practice sessions for Serena only. Richard's quote was something like "There are some technical problems with Serena's game, and Rick has offered to help."

Hopefully this is a step toward Serena getting her shots all fixed up. :)


he should ask payment up front, in full to avoid what heppened to him then (allegedly) ;)

Stamp Paid
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:30 PM
I doubt it.

tennisbum79
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:31 PM
There's a news story on a German tennis website (I'll get the link and edit this post with it when I find it again) about Richard Williams contacting Rick Macci (who worked with both Venus and Serena when they were younger) to set up practice sessions for Serena only. Richard's quote was something like "There are some technical problems with Serena's game, and Rick has offered to help."

Hopefully this is a step toward Serena getting her shots all fixed up. :)

I hope this is true. Still that does not solve the knee problem, but it is good development. This is what I have liked about Richard, he can see the big picture.

tennisbum79
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:32 PM
Rick Macci? Is this the person some have said the Williams family didn't give credit to in terms of the development of both sisters?

Did he say that or some people in the press said that to stick it to Richard?
I saw him on ESPN in story about the sisters, and he did not harbor any animosity toward them or Richard.

starr
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:34 PM
This should be good news for Serena's fans.

crazyroberto6767
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:36 PM
Personally I don't think she really *needs* him now. Her problem the last few tournaments has clearly been fitness and footwork. The fitness is getting better, not sure on the footwork. If Macci is helping her on that, then it would be beneficial, but I was thinking most of her game would come together once she got back into shape. However, Richard has done crazier things in the past that really proved beneficial to the sisters.

Kabezya
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:37 PM
Did he said that or some people in the press said that to stick it to Richard?
I saw him on ESPN in story about the sisters, and he did not harbor any animosity toward them or Richard.


I've only read things on this board from posters who used this against Venus/Serena and their family. I've never read or heard anything from Mr. Macci himself.

tennisjunky
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:37 PM
fitness, foot work, conditioning, training habits, these are the only things i want her be working on. the rest of her game is solid.

tennisbum79
Sep 21st, 2005, 10:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tennisbum79
Did he said that or some people in the press said that to stick it to Richard?
I saw him on ESPN in story about the sisters, and he did not harbor any animosity toward them or Richard.

I've only read things on this board from posters who used this against Venus/Serena and their family. I've never read or heard anything from Mr. Macci himself.

I have seen it mentioned in some articles, but Macci himself was never quoted uttering a word of unhappiness in his association with Richard, Venus and Serena. In TV, Mary Carillo has also pushed the story.

RenaSlam.
Sep 21st, 2005, 10:15 PM
I hope this is true!!

Re-tooling her game is just what she needs, her forehand is awful sometimes and it could use a lot of work.

With her serve, it just hasn't been the same as pre-2003 injury, part of the reason being she doesn't "push off" the ground as much because of the knee injury.

SJW
Sep 21st, 2005, 10:15 PM
since when is fitness a technical issue?
she has poor footwork too but shes had that for years and still won 7 slams.

SelesFan70
Sep 21st, 2005, 10:20 PM
Maybe he can "fix" Serena's game, and she can fix his hair....omg...it's atrocious.

http://www.uspta.com/html/macci1.jpg

VeeReeDavJCap81
Sep 22nd, 2005, 02:15 AM
I think this is a great idea, he's the coach that knows both sisters the best. Back to square one :cool:

charmedRic
Sep 22nd, 2005, 02:23 AM
Best Of Luck.

Mother_Marjorie
Sep 22nd, 2005, 02:34 AM
Maybe he can "fix" Serena's game, and she can fix his hair....omg...it's atrocious.

http://www.uspta.com/html/macci1.jpg

It's '70's, part-down-the-middle kinda hair.

Mother_Marjorie
Sep 22nd, 2005, 02:35 AM
I think this is a great idea, he's the coach that knows both sisters the best. Back to square one :cool:

Yep. And Serena would probably feel more comfortable with someone that coached her at a younger age. Richard obviously trusts him, which speaks volumes about Rick's character.

tennisbum79
Sep 23rd, 2005, 03:42 AM
fitness, foot work, conditioning, training habits, these are the only things i want her be working on. the rest of her game is solid.

No, the rest of her game is not solid. Let us be candid for a minute.

Her forehand is not consistent, and it has been exacerbated by her lack of fitness.

This year, it has been painful to watch all that frustration she displays because she is no longer sure of shots she used to make routinely. The forehand has become the most technically unsound this year; especially when she is forced to hit balls mid court. Also her serve that used to be so lethal has now become so predictable, that she gets broken like any other ordinary WTA player by any players. This is not the Serena of 2002-2003.

That is the reason she needs Rick Macci.
Of course to make the most out this, she needs to be totally healthy and fit so that she can execute all the drills with optimum physical commitment.

morningglory
Sep 23rd, 2005, 03:44 AM
great job, Daddy :yeah:

Diesel
Sep 23rd, 2005, 03:53 AM
Where's the link?

tennisbum79
Sep 23rd, 2005, 03:59 AM
since when is fitness a technical issue?
she has poor footwork too but shes had that for years and still won 7 slams.

Nobody is saying fitness is a technical issue. What some of us are suggesting is that she needs to be healthy, fit before she goes to Rick Macci mini-camp for two main reasons:

She needs to be physically ready to do some drills that may require physical output from her part.
Assuming condition 1 is not met, because of her physical limitations, Rick may not cover areas that need more physical exertion. After this she is still not fit, does she go back to rehabilitation and training, and then go back to playing? I do not think it is wise to leave so much time between leaving Rick's mini camp and going back on tour.
Finally, it is not true that her footwork has always been this bad. As matter of fact TV commentators used to say she has better footwork than Venus because she takes small steps while Venus took big steps, making it diffcult to stop where she needs to. Serena's footwork has only deteriorated the last couple of years.

Derek.
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:00 AM
She needs to do something, fast. This is a step in the right direction. :)

Pureracket
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:01 AM
This should be good news for Serena's fans.Make sure you let us know what should be bad news for us too since you're in the business of dictating how we should receive news.:rolleyes:

Stamp Paid
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:02 AM
Nobody is fitness is technical issue. What some of us are suggesting is that she needs to be healthy, fit before she goes to Rick Macci mini-camp for two main reasons:
She needs to be physically ready to do some drills that may require physical output from her part.
Assuming condition 1 is not met, because of her physical limitations, Rick may not cover areas that need more physical exertion. After this she is still not fit, does she go back to rehabilitation and training, and then go back to playing? I do not think it is wise to leave so much time between leaving Rick's mini camp and going back on tour.



lol you are speaking of this hypothetical mini-camp as if it was really going to happen. Sinnet is a troll, and I doubt Serena is not going back to Rick Macci.

Pureracket
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:05 AM
lol you are speaking of this hypothetical mini-camp as if it was really going to happen. Sinnet is a troll, and I doubt Serena is not going back to Rick Macci.I had almost forgotten how Serena and Venus are the only reasons that some of the Haters exist on this board.

tennisbum79
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:07 AM
lol you are speaking of this hypothetical mini-camp as if it was really going to happen. Sinnet is a troll, and I doubt Serena is not going back to Rick Macci.
It maybe wishful thinking on my part because I think she needs outside intervention.
Besides it was reported (or should I say rumored) that Richard mentioned this so there may be some credibilty to it.

Stamp Paid
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:07 AM
No, the rest of her game is not solid. Let us be candid for a minute.

Her forehand is no consistent, and is has been exacerbated by her lack of fitness.

This year, it has been painful to watch all that frustration she displays because she is no longer sure of shots she used to make routinely. The forehand has become the most technically unsound this year; especially when she is forced to hit balls mid court. Also her serve that used to be so lethal has now become so predictable, that she get broken like any other ordinary WTA player by any players. This is not the Serena of 2002-2003.

That is the reason she needs Rick Macci.
Of course to make the most out this, she needs to be totally healthy and fit so that she can execute all the drills with optimum physical commitment.

I disagree.

Her technique is not failing her. How do you figure her forehand has been technically unsound this year - her forehand hasnt lost her a match this year.

Serena is injured, point blank.

She fractured her ankle, then gained weight, then her knee was reinjured as a result of her left leg compensating for her ankle. Thats why she lost and retired from so many matches this year. She hasnt been able to jump off into her serve for one, and then her movement has been horrible, mostly because of her injury, partly because of her lack of fitness.

Its not a technical issue.

tennisbum79
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:23 AM
I disagree.

Her technique is not failing her. How do you figure her forehand has been technically unsound this year - her forehand hasnt lost her a match this year.

Serena is injured, point blank.

She fractured her ankle, then gained weight, then her knee was reinjured as a result of her left leg compensating for her ankle. Thats why she lost and retired from so many matches this year. She hasnt been able to jump off into her serve for one, and then her movement has been horrible, mostly because of her injury, partly because of her lack of fitness.

Its not a technical issue.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on this one.
Her forehand has particularly detorirated when she has to hit a mid court shot. Most of her frurtrations has come after over hitting or under hitting this shot. She used to own this shot and she can't believe she misses it so often now.

As for the serve, I concede that her anke and knee injuries may have been contributing factors. However, because the serve has been off for awhile, she may have developped bad habits as survival technique that she needs to unlearn and re-discover the good ones we know she has.

Stamp Paid
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:29 AM
I guess we'll agree to disagree on this one.
Her forehand has particularly detorirated when she has to hit a mid court shot. Most of her frurtrations has come after over hitting or under hitting this shot. She used to own this shot and she can't believe she misses it so often now.

In what matches have you noticed this? Unless it was in a match at the Australian Open, Paris, Miami, or Dubai this year, Serena was hampered by an injury.

As for the serve, I concede that her anke and knee injuries may have been contributing factors. However, because the serve has been off for awhile, she may have developped bad habits as survival technique that she needs to unlearn and re-discover the good ones we know she has.

What do you mean "may have been"? Obviously they were, she is serving using only her arm and at speeds of 80 MPH and below! And how long has the serve been off? Could it be since she had surgery on her left knee in 2003...:scratch:

Volcana
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:38 AM
It might be worth waiting til either Serena, or Rick Macci himself, are directly quoted saying they're working together. I love Richard, but he is what he is. A very good tennis coach who happens to be a loonie.

tennisbum79
Sep 23rd, 2005, 04:51 AM
In what matches have you noticed this? Unless it was in a match at the Australian Open, Paris, Miami, or Dubai this year, Serena was hampered by an injury.

Add the US Open and the China Open to the list. I saw some the China Open, ans that forehand gave her so much trouble that TT was constantly attacking it. I also detect another disagreement here.
Correct me if I am wrong, but are you suggesting that all she need is heal and everything will fall in place? While I am saying that because she has developped some bad habits during these 2 years span, it is good idea to retool her game with the help of somebody who knows how she used to hit these shots before her injury, i.e. her fatherwith the assistance of Rick Macci.



What do you mean "may have been"? Obviously they were, she is serving using only her arm and at speeds of 80 MPH and below! And how long has the serve been off? Could it be since she had surgery on her left knee in 2003...:scratch:

Ok. They were. But I still maintain absence these injuries will not automatically bring back the correct technique she used to have. She needs to re-discover them again.

Larrybidd
Sep 23rd, 2005, 06:08 AM
I disagree.

Her technique is not failing her. How do you figure her forehand has been technically unsound this year - her forehand hasnt lost her a match this year.

Serena is injured, point blank.

She fractured her ankle, then gained weight, then her knee was reinjured as a result of her left leg compensating for her ankle. Thats why she lost and retired from so many matches this year. She hasnt been able to jump off into her serve for one, and then her movement has been horrible, mostly because of her injury, partly because of her lack of fitness.

Its not a technical issue.

Man do I agree with you. All her problems stem from the fact that she is not confident in her self physically. Whatever technical problems that anyone can point too derive from her leg problems, and the extra weight she gained after the leg problems. Whenever great players struggle, folks try to make the solution more complicated that it need be. Serena Williams without strong legs is ....well a shadow of the real Serena Williams, who can't serve very well and looks awkward on court.

As far as outside intervention, people swore that Venus needed it too. Outside coaching is fine as long as it focuses in on the real problem.

Brooks.
Sep 23rd, 2005, 06:10 AM
:tape: um this sounds like a load of shit to me :lol: ......but i guess you never know :confused:

serenafan08
Sep 23rd, 2005, 06:21 AM
I think it all boils down to conditioning. Serena's got to get herself back into shape - and that's it. Her game is fine, but her body won't allow her to show it. She used to be one of the game's best athletes when she was fit; no one could sprint like her, cover the court like her (except Venus), hit with her raw power and serve as big as she does. She used to be able to hit winners from anywhere; she could turn defense into offense with one shot. Her athleticism was top-notch because she was in shape then. Now, because of her knee/ankle problems, she's gained weight, her movement has suffered, she's lost muscle mass - that's been replaced by body fat - and it's visibly obvious that she's unsure of her game right now. Trust me - if Serena can just get back into good shape, her game will fall right into place. She can bring back the greatness that she had in 2002 and 2003, and some parts of 2004. Her footwork and movement are the two biggest weaknesses right now. Her strokes are fine, but because she's so lax with her feet, her game suffers. I honestly think she should just take the rest of the year off and come back for the Australian Open fully fit. Get the ankle and knee hemmed up, get that chiseled frame back, and keep practicing with Venus. Then she should come back and shut all the haters up. :yeah:

ivanovic
Sep 23rd, 2005, 06:33 AM
She doesnt need help or couches the women has won so many tournaments and slams she's just lost interest and is bored with the game.

Diesel
Sep 23rd, 2005, 07:02 AM
Make sure you let us know what should be bad news for us too since you're in the business of dictating how we should receive news.:rolleyes:

:haha:

Lindsayfan32
Sep 23rd, 2005, 10:46 AM
There's a news story on a German tennis website (I'll get the link and edit this post with it when I find it again) about Richard Williams contacting Rick Macci (who worked with both Venus and Serena when they were younger) to set up practice sessions for Serena only. Richard's quote was something like "There are some technical problems with Serena's game, and Rick has offered to help."

Hopefully this is a step toward Serena getting her shots all fixed up. :)

Its not her shots that need fixing its her fittness that seems the problem to me. I am not a fan of the sisters but it seems if she went away and worked on fittness for more than week her results would get better.

Venus+Serena#1fan
Sep 23rd, 2005, 11:30 AM
Well this fall season is not that important really. I don't know if she will play more events and improve......not play.....play but continue to struggle....

whatever the case, its not that important for the rest of this year. Obviously I would love it if she plays the rest of her fall events and gets back into form but I have a feeling she is going to work VERY VERY hard this off season and come back a different player to Defend Australia.