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manuelanmaggielover
Apr 22nd, 2002, 11:28 PM
I am a huge fan of hers! I miss her like crazy. I wish her all the best in life. :D

Piquet
May 27th, 2004, 04:52 PM
In the early 1990's I had a Bulgarian girlfriend whose best friend from school days (and after) was Manuela. I had the opportunity to go to Wimbledon but passed due to commmitments, so never met her. Shame. :(

HanaFanGA
May 27th, 2004, 05:06 PM
I am a huge fan of hers! I miss her like crazy. I wish her all the best in life. :D


I saw a recent pic of Manuela just a few weeks ago. I can't remembr if I saw it online or in a magazine, but she looked great! We pick at the Maleeva sisters a little bit for their style of play, but I'll say this, they're plucky and don't mind grinding it out all afternoon to get a win.

Also, like Mary Joe Fernandez (but not as successfully) I'd say that Manuela should be commended for becoming more aggressive post 1989. She won a bunch of titles including the famed Italian Open, carted of tons of cash, and married the man of her dreams and has a family. For all of that, I say hats off to her.

But......I'm feeling........strangely sleepy........at.......the........moment...... :yawn: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

WTT#1Fan
May 28th, 2004, 02:20 AM
I kind of started to like her by the early 90s. While she was boring and she never smiled or showed any emotion, I do think that she had a lot of class and dignity, which I always admire.

preacherfan
May 28th, 2004, 03:02 AM
It was funny to me how once Maleeva announced her intentions of retiring, she played the best tennis of her career. Didn't she retire when she was at her career high ranking? I guess all the pressure was off. She was moving on to bigger and better things.

Zummi
May 28th, 2004, 03:12 AM
Her highest ranking was #3, achieved in 1985, and when she retired, she was around #8, so no, she was not at a career-high in the ranks when she retired. She did however move "up" the rankings to #5 or #6 at one point about 2 months after she retired :eek: Such was the ranking system. I don't believe she ever asked for her name to be taken off the rankings (like Martina, Chris, Gaby, Arantxa etc.)

She played a final 8-player tournament in Prague that summer (which did not carry any ranking points), an exhibition or two against Martina in Bulgaria but that was it.

Andy T
May 28th, 2004, 05:54 AM
She (Man) retired at a really odd (usual) time of year too: February.In fact, it made sense as she played Australia and Tokyo while still at near-peak form/fitness. She'd had such a good season the year before, too. She alays looked as if she was about to start crying though, with a "pained" or "worried" look on her face.

Jem
May 28th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Zummi,

Maleeva was ranked four on the computer when she retired. She won her last tournament as a pro -- in Osaka, Japan. For some reason, the Japanese were crazy about Maleeva, and she had lots of endorsements there.

Zummi
May 28th, 2004, 03:57 PM
Jem, that couldn't be possible b/c the week Maleeva-Fragniere retired, Martina & Conchita Martinez switched places in the rankings - Martina dropping from #3 to #4 while Martinez moved up one. Martina remained #4 in the ranks for most of the year until Novotna overtook her after winning Brighton in October.

The February 14, 1994 rankings would reflect Maleeva-Fragniere's win in Osaka. I don't have the rankings for that week, but from what I've found on "The New Tennis Information Site," it seems almost impossible that she could have been at #4 at any time that year. The points difference betwen Martina & her was just too great.

February 7 (after Tokyo & Auckland)

3. Navratilova 212.1527
4. Martinez 193.0536
9. Maleeva-Fragniere 114.0505

March 21 (after Key Biscayne)

3. Martinez 201.9666
4. Navratilova 193.8450
9. Maleeva-Fragniere 117.1123

April 18 (after Pattaya)

3. Martinez 191.5536
4. Navratilova 164.5616
7. Maleeva-Fragniere 132.2078

On the May 9 ranking list, her name was off the rankings. I had previously been unaware of this. I thought she remained on the rankings all the way through, but I guess sometime in late-April/early-May, she asked for her name to be removed.

HanaFanGA
May 28th, 2004, 04:08 PM
She (Man) retired at a really odd (usual) time of year too: February.In fact, it made sense as she played Australia and Tokyo while still at near-peak form/fitness. She'd had such a good season the year before, too. She alays looked as if she was about to start crying though, with a "pained" or "worried" look on her face.


Seemingly, she and Date both did. But at the same time, it was clear that both had other things that they wanted to do in life. To me, their retirements seem healthy and normal as opposed to some others that we've seen.

louloubelle
May 30th, 2004, 01:25 AM
Also, like Mary Joe Fernandez (but not as successfully) I'd say that Manuela should be commended for becoming more aggressive post 1989. She won a bunch of titles including the famed Italian Open, carted of tons of cash, and married the man of her dreams and has a family. For all of that, I say hats off to her.

Yes, post 89 she actually tried to flatten out her forehand which even tho her results didn't imporve that much she was a bit more interesting the watch, instead of the loopiness earlier.

She lost to Kristin Godridge at Wimbledon 94??? and had enough of tennis and intended to retire. Without pressure I think she then made the semis of the US Open - enough for a US tennis mag to give her comeback player of the year.

I think the year after she made the semis again, taking a set off Graf before being pounded. Graf who had never lost to Maleeva was apparently very nervous before the match (she couldn't explain why) but when she settled down there went Maleeva's chance for a slam final. Manuela also publicy lamented her loss to Seles @ the French one year, leading 4-1 in the 3rd and maybe points for 5-2 saying that she felt she was playing well enough to win the French!! Seles wrote in her bio that Manuela took an injury timeout during this time of the set, in which she felt was a form of gamesmanship to unsettled her because she didn't think that Manuela was showing any signs of injury?? Either way it didn't work and Seles came thru.

Her win over Martina at the US Open one year (the previous she lost to her 60 60) was tremedous in that we actually saw Manuela animated on court. One critical running forehand pass had her jumping in the air clenching a fist after the points before had Martina shouting c'mon in an effort to drag herself back into the match. Great sight was sister Maggie running across the court to hug Manuela after the victory.

She ended her career well with a tournament victory - I think beating upcomer at the time Majoli?

Rollo
May 30th, 2004, 08:50 AM
I would imagine the japanese liked her reserved manners a lot. She sure was popular when I lived in Japan (1988-89)-all the japanese girls were crzy about Stefan Edberg at the time.

HanaFanGA
May 30th, 2004, 04:22 PM
Yes, post 89 she actually tried to flatten out her forehand which even tho her results didn't imporve that much she was a bit more interesting the watch, instead of the loopiness earlier.

She lost to Kristin Godridge at Wimbledon 94??? and had enough of tennis and intended to retire. Without pressure I think she then made the semis of the US Open - enough for a US tennis mag to give her comeback player of the year.

I think the year after she made the semis again, taking a set off Graf before being pounded. Graf who had never lost to Maleeva was apparently very nervous before the match (she couldn't explain why) but when she settled down there went Maleeva's chance for a slam final. Manuela also publicy lamented her loss to Seles @ the French one year, leading 4-1 in the 3rd and maybe points for 5-2 saying that she felt she was playing well enough to win the French!! Seles wrote in her bio that Manuela took an injury timeout during this time of the set, in which she felt was a form of gamesmanship to unsettled her because she didn't think that Manuela was showing any signs of injury?? Either way it didn't work and Seles came thru.

Her win over Martina at the US Open one year (the previous she lost to her 60 60) was tremedous in that we actually saw Manuela animated on court. One critical running forehand pass had her jumping in the air clenching a fist after the points before had Martina shouting c'mon in an effort to drag herself back into the match. Great sight was sister Maggie running across the court to hug Manuela after the victory.

She ended her career well with a tournament victory - I think beating upcomer at the time Majoli?


I don't know if she would have won in Paris that year, but she played a whale of a match against Seles. I think this is the match where she accidentally hit hearself in the head with her racquet. Maybe that's what the timeout was for??

Manuela disliked Seles intensely. Why is that?

HanaFanGA
May 30th, 2004, 04:23 PM
I would imagine the japanese liked her reserved manners a lot. She sure was popular when I lived in Japan (1988-89)-all the japanese girls were crzy about Stefan Edberg at the time.


That may have been why she chose to end her career at such an odd time of year in Japan. All kidding aside, I think she's to be admired for her accomplishments and how she conducted herself on the court.

hingis-seles
May 30th, 2004, 05:34 PM
I don't know if she would have won in Paris that year, but she played a whale of a match against Seles. I think this is the match where she accidentally hit hearself in the head with her racquet. Maybe that's what the timeout was for??

Manuela disliked Seles intensely. Why is that?
I never understood that. Monica also wrote in her book that Manuela always said Monica would never be a great player.

HanaFanGA
May 30th, 2004, 05:52 PM
I never understood that. Monica also wrote in her book that Manuela always said Monica would never be a great player.


Oops! She kinda missed on that prediction now didn't she. The only time I remember seeing them play was in 1990 at the US Hardcourts. Manuela played well but not good enough to win. Her actions and mannerisms in that match sort of gave me the impression that she didn't like Monica. Later, I read that they didn't like one another.

preacherfan
May 30th, 2004, 07:53 PM
As much as Monica grew to be loved and respected, she appeared to be something quite different early in her career. As much as I enjoyed watching her, I remember being annoyed with her Madonna-wannabe attitude. Yet she was really nice. I remeber her giving Garrison a rose before their match at the French. Garrison wanted nothing of it and was annoyed with her PR work with the crowd. Most young players mature with time (just as most people do, I suppose). Manuela probably had feelings that many others did. Even now, there are many people (I'm not one), who feel that Monica milked the stabbing and could have come back much sooner.

Rollo
Oct 15th, 2004, 02:13 AM
Someone mentioned liking Maleeva, so here's a bump up

This thread could use some pics BTW


http://www.tchv.ch/Photos/Divers/Maleeva2.jpg

crazillo
Oct 15th, 2004, 05:32 PM
MANU :D

I hope she will support Maggie next week.

Rollo
Oct 16th, 2004, 05:37 PM
How many kids does Manuela have?

Second question:What ever happened with their mother? Did she go to jail?
I can't even recall what the charges were.

crazillo
Oct 16th, 2004, 09:58 PM
3 I think. 2 Katja I think.

HanaFanGA
Oct 16th, 2004, 10:02 PM
How many kids does Manuela have?

Second question:What ever happened with their mother? Did she go to jail?
I can't even recall what the charges were.

Huh? Did the Maleeva mother go to jail? She was extremely outspoken and anticommuntist. But if anyone has any details on this, please share.

And another question for Manuela's fans? What would be MMF's biggest win:

A) d. Chris 1984 Italian Open
B) d. Martina 1990 US Open
C) d. Chris 1987 Hilton Head
D) d. Martina 1993 Zurich

samn
Oct 16th, 2004, 10:22 PM
And another question for Manuela's fans? What would be MMF's biggest win:

A) d. Chris 1984 Italian Open
B) d. Martina 1990 US Open
C) d. Chris 1987 Hilton Head
D) d. Martina 1993 Zurich

Martina 1993 Zurich. I think it was her most satisfying win in retrospect and it was the happiest I ever was for her :)

Joana
Oct 16th, 2004, 11:22 PM
Huh? Did the Maleeva mother go to jail? She was extremely outspoken and anticommuntist. But if anyone has any details on this, please share.


I think it had something to do with the taxes, I'm not sure though.

Rollo
Sep 13th, 2007, 11:00 PM
Lets see if we can get more info on whether or not mom went to jail. Yulia sure was a character. She either threatened to play Fed Cup at a very old age or actually DID play Fed Cup one year when the Bulgarian Federation wasn't giving her the support she wanted.

Rollo
Sep 13th, 2007, 11:03 PM
Yulia DID play Fed Cup as a mom. Born in 1944, she first played Fed Cup in 1968, then again in 1986 and 1987, aged 43! :eek:

It was doubles only in the 80s-with someone named Rangelova.

Rollo
Sep 13th, 2007, 11:05 PM
Here's here wiki-page, with a cute pic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuela_Maleeva


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Manuela_Maleeva.jpg

trivfun
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:26 AM
Yulia DID play Fed Cup as a mom. Born in 1944, she first played Fed Cup in 1968, then again in 1986 and 1987, aged 43! :eek:

It was doubles only in the 80s-with someone named Rangelova.

Yulia was John Thompson with the "Hoya Paranoia" thing. However, I don't think Yulia wanted them to be successful in winning majors because it remind of her failures as a player. She would make comments like, Manuela didn't have the athletic ability to win majors (like Chris Evert did or maybe knew something about Chris). She was a bit overbearing with Magdalena and totally ignored Katarina. With Manuela, it was Patrick Ewing like.