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Helas
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:38 PM
Johannesburg (http://www.themercury.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=283&fArticleId=2850592): The hunt is on for three women who ambushed a 30-year-old man and forced him to have sex with them at gunpoint.

According to police spokeswoman Paula Nothnagel, a case of indecent assault had been opened and identity kits would be released soon. The man cannot be named because of the nature of the offence.

Nothnagel said that on Saturday night the man was walking through Roodepoort when the women pulled up next to him in their maroon BMW.

They asked him for directions to the Savoy Hotel and he got into the car to show them the way.

At the hotel the women persuaded him to join them for a drink, before asking him for directions to yet another hotel.

While on the road to the Station Hotel the women suddenly changed direction and drove to a dark and empty field near the Durban Deep mine.

"One woman produced a firearm and held the man at gunpoint," Nothnagel said.

"The women got undressed and all three took turns to have intercourse with him."

The man was then ordered back into the car and dropped off along Main Reef Road.

Nothnagel said the man then went home before opening a case at the local police station. The West Rand Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Unit is investigating. They suspect the women were all aged between 20 and 30.

Poor guy ;)

Pureracket
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:52 PM
I'm wondering if he's going to have nightmares and hate women now.

Wigglytuff
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:56 PM
i wonder if it made him hard :devil:

kabuki
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:58 PM
I'm wondering if he's going to have nightmares and hate women now.

If this is for real, then I'm sure he is going to need some serious counselling.

tfannis
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:58 PM
I was wondering - I'm not a guy ;) - how can a man be forced to have sex? :scratch: If he has a gun pointed to his face and he's all stressy and stuff, how can he get him up? :shrug:

Williams Rulez
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:03 PM
the guy sure had some stamina! lol... 3 woman... ;)

Helen Lawson
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:03 PM
I was wondering - I'm not a guy ;) - how can a man be forced to have sex? :scratch: If he has a gun pointed to his face and he's all stressy and stuff, how can he get him up? :shrug:

Someone saying "get it up or I'll cut it off" would probably work.

tfannis
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:09 PM
Someone saying "get it up or I'll cut it off" would probably work.

You think? :unsure:

Wigglytuff
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:15 PM
You think? :unsure:

i dont think. me - not a guy - thinks that to get it up u need to be sexually stimulated. and the only way it would work is if hearing "put it up or ill cut it off" is sexually stimulating :scared: :scared:

Fantastic
Aug 31st, 2005, 03:31 PM
A man can indeed obtain an erection when forced. The arousal comes from his instinct to survive. He was sexually stimulated in the usual way but that does not mean he wanted to have sex. That's why male rape, when perpetrated by a woman, is a grey area and can be difficult to argue in a court of law, unless the context and situation is clearly explained and there is no reasonable doubt.

Louis Cyphre
Aug 31st, 2005, 03:37 PM
i dont think. me - not a guy - thinks that to get it up u need to be sexually stimulated. and the only way it would work is if hearing "put it up or ill cut it off" is sexually stimulating :scared: :scared:
not a guy but it seems that you know men well ;) Thats right if someone tell me "put it up or ill cut it off" i`ll definitely will not "put it up

Knizzle
Aug 31st, 2005, 03:38 PM
Well if they did things to AROUSE him, then his penis could betray him and get hard.

Veritas
Aug 31st, 2005, 04:25 PM
If this is for real, then I'm sure he is going to need some serious counselling.

I think he'll need the counselling regardless. Not to be mysogynistic or anything, but being raped by a woman will be especially degrading for a guy's ego. I don't find this funny at all - just as I don't find women being raped a light or funny matter as well. It's fortunate he wasn't killed, but I'm sure the psychological damage would be significant.

Cam'ron Giles
Aug 31st, 2005, 04:29 PM
There's a homo in the making...:eek:

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 31st, 2005, 04:35 PM
i wonder if they all had Aids :o

Pengwin
Aug 31st, 2005, 04:39 PM
I wonder how old the women were :tape:

Infiniti2001
Aug 31st, 2005, 04:43 PM
i wonder if they all had Aids :o

Me too-- usually it's the men raping women and even babies in South Africa :o

SelesFan70
Aug 31st, 2005, 04:43 PM
Basically, all you have to do is touch a man's dick and it'll get hard...even if you have a gun in your face and you're scared. :o

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 31st, 2005, 04:47 PM
it would be FUNNY if it turns out they caught Aids of him.
that would serve them right.

Sally Struthers
Aug 31st, 2005, 04:56 PM
It sounds like kinky sex gone bad to me.

HAIL-VENUS
Aug 31st, 2005, 05:51 PM
This story's kinda hott :o I haven't really analyzed my feelings about the male rape issue. I'm sure that the guy was really freaked out, but it's hard for me to believe that he didn't enjoy it just a little bit, unless he's gay. I guess I feel this was because the guy obviously achieved and maintained an erection throughout the duration of this traumatising ordeal. I guess this is why a lot of people don't take this issue seriously enough. A woman doesn't have to be aroused to have forced sex, but a man does. That tends to put the male rape issue on an uneven playing field.

James
Aug 31st, 2005, 05:56 PM
This story's kinda hott :o I haven't really analyzed my feelings about the male rape issue. I'm sure that the guy was really freaked out, but it's hard for me to believe that he didn't enjoy it just a little bit, unless he's gay. I guess I feel this was because the guy obviously achieved and maintained an erection throughout the duration of this traumatising ordeal. I guess this is why a lot of people don't take this issue seriously enough. A woman doesn't have to be aroused to have forced sex, but a man does. That tends to put the male rape issue on an uneven playing field.

Your vision seems somewhat strange. Why would that man have enjoyed it a little bit? Are men supposed to like every female or something?

HAIL-VENUS
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:01 PM
Well, ofcourse not, but I think I explained the "why" in my post. He kept an erection long enough to perform sex on three young women.

James
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:03 PM
Well, ofcourse not, but I think I explained the "why" in my post. He kept an erection long enough to perform sex on three young women.

That is pure speculation on your part though, cause the article does not say that. It said they had intercourse with him, which can mean a lot of things. And just stimulating his dick making it hard, does not imply he was sexually aroused.

Wigglytuff
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:14 PM
not a guy but it seems that you know men well ;) Thats right if someone tell me "put it up or ill cut it off" i`ll definitely will not "put it up
:nerner: :nerner:

HAIL-VENUS
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:17 PM
I guess I misinterpreted the opening sentence of the article which reads: "The hunt is on for three women who ambushed a 30-year-old man and forced him to have sex with them at gunpoint"

So, you're implying that they stripped naked only to have some other type of intercourse with him? :shrug: I also guess that you're suggesting that he was ordered to take his dick out, and the wind stimulated him long enough to fuck three chicks? I'm not suggesting that I know how he felt at any point during this experience. I'm just saying that, I believe, he may have gotten into it at some point between the stripping, the gun, and the drop off.

James
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:26 PM
I guess I misinterpreted the opening sentence of the article which reads: "The hunt is on for three women who ambushed a 30-year-old man and forced him to have sex with them at gunpoint"

So, you're implying that they stripped naked only to have some other type of intercourse with him? :shrug: I also guess that you're suggesting that he was ordered to take his dick out, and the wind stimulated him long enough to fuck three chicks? I'm not suggesting that I know how he felt at any point during this experience. I'm just saying that, I believe, he may have gotten into it at some point between the stripping, the gun, and the drop off.

Having sex with them still does not mean actual arousal on the part of the man. What if it had been men doing this to a woman? You would never have suggested she would have enjoyed it.

Jarrett
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:29 PM
Wasn't this a Law & Order:SUV episode?

HAIL-VENUS
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:36 PM
I'm sure that I explained the "why" I said he might have enjoyed it in an earlier post as well. His dick was hard. A woman DOES NOT have to show any type of physical interest in what is happening to her in order for her to be raped. A woman DOES NOT have to be aroused to get fucked. If a man's fucking someone, then he HAS to be aroused, whether it's intentional or not. This may give pause to theory on the male rape issue. That's a major reason why it's so damn hard to prove in a court of law.

James
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:38 PM
I'm sure that I explained the "why" I said he might have enjoyed it in an earlier post as well. His dick was hard. A woman DOES NOT have to show any type of physical interest in what is happening to her in order for her to be raped. A woman DOES NOT have to be aroused to get fucked. If a man's fucking someone, then he HAS to be aroused, whether it's intentional or not. This may give pause to theory on the male rape issue. That's a major reason why it's so damn hard to prove in a court of law.

That would mean that if my dick was hard I would be aroused, which is simply not the case.

Stamp Paid
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:42 PM
This story's kinda hott :o

to you too? :o

I could get it up at gunpoint. I dont think I could do all 3 of them back-to-back-to-back though.

HAIL-VENUS
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:53 PM
James, we can go on and on and on all day, but I don't think either of our minds would change about this. So, since this is an extremely sensitive issue for you, I'm willing to agree to disagree. And I'm not saying that every case of male rape is the same. There's just something strange about him, unwillingly, doing three chicks in a row, being under the pressure of life or death. Hey, Justin, I knew I wasn't the only one. I can just imagine the scene and hearing them say, "Fuck us....NOWWW".

James
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:56 PM
James, we can go on and on and on all day, but I don't think either of our minds would change about this. So, since this is an extremely sensitive issue for you, I'm willing to agree to disagree. And I'm not saying that every case of male rape is the same. There's just something strange about him, unwillingly, doing three chicks in a row, being under the pressure of life or death. Hey, Justin, I knew I wasn't the only one. I can just imagine the scene and hearing them say, "Fuck us....NOWWW".

It's not a sensitive subject for me at all. I was just offering a different view. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. I just find the double standard a bit strange. If this happens to a guy, his friends might react like you and Justin do and find it hot he got it on with those three chicks. If it had been a girl, everyone would be appalled and nobody would even suggest it was hot she got to do those three guys.

HAIL-VENUS
Aug 31st, 2005, 07:09 PM
Ofcourse, I see where you're coming from, and you're absolutely right. But, the contrasting attitudes between men and women towards sex, as well as the issue of male physical dominance makes it very easy to create this double standard. It's just so hard to believe a man can be a victim in this sense. It would be different if he'd been forceably penetrated. In the cases where men are forced to penetrate a woman, it's much harder to gain popular belief that he didn't want to do it.

Julian
Aug 31st, 2005, 08:25 PM
the women must have been pretty ugly to force the guy to have sex by gunpoint

imagine if it were 3 hot chicks :hearts: u wouldnt need to force me!

tennislover
Aug 31st, 2005, 08:34 PM
A man can indeed obtain an erection when forced.

Indeed. All male porn-actors do like that! :drool:

SelesFan70
Aug 31st, 2005, 08:53 PM
Indeed. All male porn-actors do like that! :drool:

Especially the "straight for pay" ones... :tape:

flyingmachine
Aug 31st, 2005, 09:37 PM
:eek: :scared:
Poor him.

Darop.
Aug 31st, 2005, 10:44 PM
Pfffft, he fucked em cuz he wanted to, wife found out somehow, he invented wacky story. :p

Some guys can't get hard in front of a videocamera, i think it would be hard difficult if you're at gun point unless you're really turned on :p

wta_zuperfann
Aug 31st, 2005, 11:26 PM
I'm wondering if he's going to have nightmares and hate women now.


When I was in law school many years ago, a classmate told me of a male friend that she had who suffered a similar assault. He had to go to a psychiatrist for 7 years before he could ever look at a woman again. Some may laugh and joke about this type of attack but it sure as hell isn't funny to such a victim.



:sad: for the victim

JenFan75
Sep 1st, 2005, 12:17 AM
Were they at least good looking?

CanIGetAWhat
Sep 1st, 2005, 12:29 AM
Wasn't this a Law & Order:SUV episode?Yeah, it was. The male stripper who was raped by three women was hot. It was the episode where Diane Neal was one of the accused.

Scotso
Sep 1st, 2005, 02:19 AM
You know, this really isn't funny. People are laughing but it isn't funny at all. If a woman was raped, that wouldn't happen. It's the same.

And regarding him "getting it up," an erection does not equal consent.

*roddicksinme*
Sep 1st, 2005, 02:49 AM
I hope he is atleast straight

Ravsieg
Sep 1st, 2005, 03:32 AM
What the fuck is the Child Protection unit doing there... :rolleyes:

Anniemal
Sep 1st, 2005, 03:50 AM
As if he didn't enjoy it!

Berlin_Calling
Sep 1st, 2005, 04:27 AM
As long as they used protection :o

Zippy
Sep 1st, 2005, 05:26 AM
I'm sorry but I have always been skepticle about the whole "woman rapes a man" thing. See, men fuck women. Men fuck men. Women DON'T fuck men. Therefore a man CAN rape a women obviously. And also a man CAN rape a man. He can force himself into (penetrate) the other mans asshole, or force his cock down the other mans throat. There's nothing that a women can force into a man. Sorry, but it just doesn't jive well with me. He fucked 3 women. He entered 1 and did some pelvic thrust, then entered a 2nd and did some pelvic thrust, then entered yet a 3rd and did some more pelvic thrust. And then from what I read, he repeated fucking them the process. They DIDN'T fuck rape him. Why?, cause they CAN'T. Men penetrate women (& sometimes men). Women don't penetrate man.

bionic71
Sep 1st, 2005, 06:12 AM
I cannot understand how anybody could find this funny...

Rape is rape, sexual assault is sexual assault...the gender of the victim should not make the offence any different.

At gunpoint and confronted with the fear of violence and or possible death the victim is not responding sexually...they are responding the act of violence against them.

Any sort of genital stimulation, combined with the rush of adrenaline in a such a traumatic situation will produce an erection....I fail to see how people cannot understand that.

"Sluggy"
Sep 1st, 2005, 08:04 AM
Precisely.

Just a reminded to some of you women or even men for that matter, and that is to the effect that baby boys, young boys, adolescent boys, teenager men, Young men, men in their thirties, middle aged men, older middle aged men, and venerable men ALL HAVE INNOCENCE. We may have just as much innocence or more innocence then some or many or all of you women. There is no difference. Just because we have a penis, and a penis CAN be used as a weapon, doesnt mean that we all USE it has a weapon and clearly, most of us do not use it as a weapon. And I also might remind you that men who have lost thier tempers at times, have even struck people (women included) or done worse things, may STILL have some measure of innocence. It is disturbing to see how some people view us and you should remind yourselves that your brothers, fathers and grandfathers still have inner children in them. I know many men who were the finest of children, who were great pals as adolescents, who treated all people with digniity and respect ... but who had mothers, sisters or girlfriends that were fucking bitchy as helll!

With your permission, I will give badrep to all of you with bad attitudes. :lol:

Gowza
Sep 1st, 2005, 08:28 AM
a woman can fuck a man, they pick up his cock, shove it in their box and fuck him, chick riding a mans cock=fucking a man, just because she isnt penetrating him doesnt mean she can't fuck him. as for the erection part, as noted already an erection doesnt equal consent, rape is a sexual act without consent. women laught at men getting raped yet they wouldnt want to be laughed at if they themselves were raped. doesnt matter whether one can penetrate and the other can't, if someone is forced to have sex without consent then it's rape. and it's not all about arousal either, even if they find the person raping them attractive, it's the situation also. you may find a person hot and want to have sex with them in a normal situation but if they held you at gunpoint and said i'll kill you if you don't fuck me then would you really want to do it with them (unless that sort of thing turns you on).

pla
Sep 1st, 2005, 08:41 AM
Some people in this thread are sick! To find this funny or hot? :mad: :o :fiery: I have no words.

I hope they never experience something similar to that because the last thig they would want is someone making fun of it.

NFFC_FAN
Sep 1st, 2005, 09:26 AM
I'm sorry but I have always been skepticle about the whole "woman rapes a man" thing. See, men fuck women. Men fuck men. Women DON'T fuck men. Therefore a man CAN rape a women obviously. And also a man CAN rape a man. He can force himself into (penetrate) the other mans asshole, or force his cock down the other mans throat. There's nothing that a women can force into a man. Sorry, but it just doesn't jive well with me. He fucked 3 women. He entered 1 and did some pelvic thrust, then entered a 2nd and did some pelvic thrust, then entered yet a 3rd and did some more pelvic thrust. And then from what I read, he repeated fucking them the process. They DIDN'T fuck rape him. Why?, cause they CAN'T. Men penetrate women (& sometimes men). Women don't penetrate man.

rape ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rp)
n.
1) The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
2) The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
3) Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

If someone was holding a gun to my head, saying fuck me or I pull the trigger, then clearly I am being made to have sexual intercourse against my will.

Irrespective of penetration or thrusting, the point is that I am being forced to have sex, which we can all see from the above definition (courtesy of the lovely people at dictionary.com) constitutes rape.

I can't believe how ignorant and naive some people are. If it had been three men holding a woman at gunpoint, and forcing her to have sex, there'd be uproar. The other way round is just as bad.

Experimentee
Sep 1st, 2005, 03:25 PM
Its sad to see the lack of sympathy for male rape victims. No wonder most dont report it. Its entirely possible to maintain an erection if you had a gun pointed to your head, and its really easy to arouse a guy even if he doesnt want to. He definitely would have done it if it was a choice between sex with 3 women or death. It doesnt mean he consented.
It irrelevant too whether the women were good looking or not. A lot of male rapists are good looking and that doesnt make it enjoyable.

Fantastic
Sep 1st, 2005, 04:06 PM
What the fuck is the Child Protection unit doing there... :rolleyes:

"The West Rand Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Unit is investigating."

Obviously crimes involving children in danger, sexually-based offences and domestic violence are all under the same Police Unit in West Rand. Child Protection was not specifically called.

Zippy
Sep 1st, 2005, 08:19 PM
I apologize to all that I offended with me before mentioned post. I guess it’s my male macho/masculine thing that have that makes me feel that there’s no way I could be raped by a women. I mean obviously every ones different, and though I wasn’t there in his shoes. If I women (or women) held me at gunpoint and made my have sex with them, that would make me just fuck them harder. More as “Oh, you think you got me bitch? Naw bitch, I got you. Take this dick rough bitch. Yeah I got you now” But hey, that’s just me.

"Sluggy"
Sep 2nd, 2005, 07:24 AM
This story's kinda hott :o I haven't really analyzed my feelings about the male rape issue. I'm sure that the guy was really freaked out, but it's hard for me to believe that he didn't enjoy it just a little bit, unless he's gay. I guess I feel this was because the guy obviously achieved and maintained an erection throughout the duration of this traumatising ordeal. I guess this is why a lot of people don't take this issue seriously enough. A woman doesn't have to be aroused to have forced sex, but a man does. That tends to put the male rape issue on an uneven playing field.

Thanks for the bad rap, and as for your calling me an idiot, it takes one to know one you freaking creap

WF4EVER
Sep 2nd, 2005, 06:09 PM
I wonder, did they offer him to join them for some gangbanging or did they just decide they wouldn't ask?

If I were a guy I'd be flattered to get some free pussy like that, but God knows if they had AIDS.

Apart from that no-one should be allowed to do anything against their will; that was just wrong. It would be deserving for them to catch a dose of something from him. Bad thing is, if they're in the habit of raping men they'll only spread it more.

WF4EVER
Sep 2nd, 2005, 06:13 PM
This story's kinda hott :o I haven't really analyzed my feelings about the male rape issue. I'm sure that the guy was really freaked out, but it's hard for me to believe that he didn't enjoy it just a little bit, unless he's gay. I guess I feel this was because the guy obviously achieved and maintained an erection throughout the duration of this traumatising ordeal. I guess this is why a lot of people don't take this issue seriously enough. A woman doesn't have to be aroused to have forced sex, but a man does. That tends to put the male rape issue on an uneven playing field.

I can't help but agree. First, he got an erection and kept it to satisfy these three woman. Like you said a woman does not have to be aroused to be raped but I didn't know a man in fear for his life could muster an erection.

But the fact that he reported it must substantiate his feeling of being violated, no?

Number19
Sep 2nd, 2005, 08:36 PM
Arousal and stimulation are a bit different I think. Arousal is because of sexual feeling and desire to have sex. Stimulation would be a response, like when a doctor takes a mallet and hits your knee to see your reflex. This guy is a healthy heterosexual, whose penis was stimulated by female touch against his own feelings and desires.

kournikovafan13
Sep 3rd, 2005, 06:00 AM
I'm sorry but I have always been skepticle about the whole "woman rapes a man" thing. See, men fuck women. Men fuck men. Women DON'T fuck men. Therefore a man CAN rape a women obviously. And also a man CAN rape a man. He can force himself into (penetrate) the other mans asshole, or force his cock down the other mans throat. There's nothing that a women can force into a man. Sorry, but it just doesn't jive well with me. He fucked 3 women. He entered 1 and did some pelvic thrust, then entered a 2nd and did some pelvic thrust, then entered yet a 3rd and did some more pelvic thrust. And then from what I read, he repeated fucking them the process. They DIDN'T fuck rape him. Why?, cause they CAN'T. Men penetrate women (& sometimes men). Women don't penetrate man.

You're an idiot. Of course he was the one "fucking" them, but the other bitches had a gun to his head the whole time. What the fuck was he supposed to do?