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Zippy
Aug 22nd, 2005, 12:23 AM
I have two questions for you all.

1) Who is Jessica Lynch?
2) Who is/was Natalee Holloway?

Yeah I know. The basic answers to those two questions are really easy. I mean only a fool or someone who has been completely oblivious to today’s news wouldn't know of these to white women.

Now I have two more questions.

3) Who is Shoshana Johnson?
4) Who is/was La'Toyia Figueroa?

Well I know most of you all here know of the latter person mentioned. Likely only cause there's a thread pertaining to her story now. I mean white America; oops I mean the American media sure didn't go out of their way to cover it. In fact she was missing for a damn month and the story didn't get any coverage that was note worthy up until they other day when they finally found her. I mean most of us were like, "they found whose body? Who was she?"

Now this what I believe the common American view of the persons in questions 1,2,3, & 4:

1) Wonderful white girl who is such an inspiration to us all.
2) Beautiful yet unfortunate young white girl who was taken advantage of (and possibly killed) be those damn Aruban hevans. It was so not her fault.

3) It really doesn't matter. She's black.
4) Who really cares anyway? She's black/Hispanic.

Now I may be wrong, but the disparity in media coverage and also one being held as a cultural icon (Ms Lynch) tends to insinuate my views to be true. Oh btw if you all didn't know of her. Ms Johnson was an Army Specialist that belonged to the same 507th Maintenance Company as Lynch. But unlike Lynch, Johnson fought to stave off their Iraqi captors. Like Lynch, she sustained serious injuries. Yeah, she was the other female POW captured with Lynch. 'What, you mean there was another one? Who would have thought it :rolleyes:' One has a book, a movie, been on news interview specials, and is loved and revered by "almost" all. The other... well at least her family and friends loves her. Yeah :o

ampers&
Aug 22nd, 2005, 12:30 AM
I have two questions for you all.

1) Who is Jessica Lynch?
2) Who is/was Natalee Holloway?

Yeah I know. The basic answers to those two questions are really easy. I mean only a fool or someone who has been completely oblivious to today’s news wouldn't know of these to white women.

Now I have two more questions.

3) Who is Shoshana Johnson?
4) Who is/was La'Toyia Figueroa?

Well I know most of you all here know of the latter person mentioned. Likely only cause there's a thread pertaining to her story now. I mean white America; oops I mean the American media sure didn't go out of their way to cover it. In fact she was missing for a damn month and the story didn't get any coverage that was note worthy up until they other day when they finally found her. I mean most of us were like, "they found whose body? Who was she?"

Now this what I believe the common American view of the persons in questions 1,2,3, & 4:

1) Wonderful white girl who is such an inspiration to us all.
2) Beautiful yet unfortunate young white girl who was taken advantage of (and possibly killed) be those damn Aruban hevans. It was so not her fault.

3) It really doesn't matter. She's black.
4) Who really cares anyway? She's black/Hispanic.

Now I may be wrong, but the disparity in media coverage and also one being held as a cultural icon (Ms Lynch) tends to insinuate my views to be true. Oh btw if you all didn't know of her. Ms Johnson was an Army Specialist that belonged to the same 507th Maintenance Company as Lynch. But unlike Lynch, Johnson fought to stave off their Iraqi captors. Like Lynch, she sustained serious injuries. Yeah, she was the other female POW captured with Lynch. 'What, you mean there was another one? Who would have thought it :rolleyes:' One has a book, a movie, been on news interview specials, and is loved and revered by "almost" all. The other... well at least her family and friends loves her. Yeah :o
Good post, but couldn't you have just posted this in the La'Toyia Figueroa thread?
Some of us were basically saying the same thing as you.

Zippy
Aug 22nd, 2005, 12:39 AM
Good post, but couldn't you have just posted this in the La'Toyia Figueroa thread?
Some of us were basically saying the same thing as you.
Thanks:) Believe it or not, I actually haven't opened/viewed the La'Toyia thread yet. This just has been on my mind all day and I simply wanted to get my points out once I had the chance. I'll go look into the other thread now, and I'll likely will just copy & paste this ost in there.
:wavey:

Stamp Paid
Aug 22nd, 2005, 12:42 AM
Well, they are the majority...

TF Chipmunk
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:02 AM
Although I do see what you're talking about, I doubt that it's really an issue of race. It's probably just a coincidence. If you want to take on white America, or the American media for this, then why doesn't BET or UPN or any other network that has predominantly African-American viewership tell the world about Shoshana or La'Toyia?

It is sad that those two women didn't have their stories told, but I really see this as just a coincidence. And you can't say what I'm saying is biased because I'm Asian, so I am part of the minority as well.

spokenword73
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:03 AM
majority of what?

Zippy
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:10 AM
Well, they are the majority...
That's true, and also the media does hold the right to cover whatever stories they wish to. But it still doesn't make it right.

On the flip side, I guess I can't complain. I mean sure, when something unfortunate (kidnapped, raped, taken POW) happens to a black person, no one seems to care. But hey, when a black man commits or is charged with commiting a voilent crime nothing in America gets followed more closely. So I guess we get our dues :o

TF Chipmunk
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:12 AM
That's true, and also the media does hold the right to cover whatever stories they wish to. But it still doesn't make it right.

On the flip side, I guess I can't complain. I mean sure, when something unfortunate (kidnapped, raped, taken POW) happens to a black person, no one seems to care. But hey, when a black man commits or is charged with commiting a voilent crime nothing in America gets followed more closely. So I guess we get our dues :o
And what would you call the BTK Serial Killer? Texas Chainsaw Massacre person? Are they all amazingly African Americans underneath that skin?

ampers&
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:16 AM
Although I do see what you're talking about, I doubt that it's really an issue of race. It's probably just a coincidence. If you want to take on white America, or the American media for this, then why doesn't BET or UPN or any other network that has predominantly African-American viewership tell the world about Shoshana or La'Toyia?
Do you even watch UPN, BET and other stations that are watched predominantly by blacks???
First of all, most UPN stations have no regular nightly news programs.
Second of all, BET Nightly News has talked about these women more than all the other news stations combined.

And, just so you know, UPN and BET are the only main stations (the only 2 I know) that predominately center on black cultural media.

TF Chipmunk
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:19 AM
Do you even watch UPN, BET and other stations that are watched predominantly by blacks???
First of all, most UPN stations have no regular nightly news programs.
Second of all, BET Nightly News has talked about these women more than all the other news stations combined.

And, just so you know, UPN and BET are the only main stations (the only 2 I know) that predominately center on black cultural media.
I watch UPN now and then. I thought there were more predominantly African-American centered networks :o

ampers&
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:23 AM
I watch UPN now and then. I thought there were more predominantly African-American centered networks :o
Nope.
Those are the primary networks.

selking
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:30 AM
:speakles:

uhh yea...i honestly can't belive you just posted that

Zippy
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:31 AM
And what would you call the BTK Serial Killer? Texas Chainsaw Massacre person? Are they all amazingly African Americans underneath that skin?
They simply got so much coverage because they were 'SERIAL KILLERS' i.e. mass murderers. Hell it seems a black man simply has to be charged with rape and will get that same amount of airtime. You can't really compare a mass murderer to someone suspected of 1 or 2 murders or rapes, or whatever. I mean the only minority serial killer I can think of was the D.C. Snipers (a father and his son).

I see for whatever reason you want to put up a rebuttal against me. But this is the truth and maybe you're just too naive to realize it. 'Spokenword73' said it best in the other thread, "The media usually like to show people of color in a negative light."

ampers&
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:33 AM
:speakles:

uhh yea...i honestly can't belive you just posted that
Me??

TF Chipmunk
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:38 AM
They simply got so much coverage because they were 'SERIAL KILLERS' i.e. mass murderers. Hell it seems a black man simply has to be charged with rape and will get that same amount of airtime. You can't really compare a mass murderer to someone suspected of 1 or 2 murders or rapes, or whatever. I mean the only minority serial killer I can think of was the D.C. Snipers (a father and his son).

I see for whatever reason you want to put up a rebuttal against me. But this is the truth and maybe you're just too naive to realize it. 'Spokenword73' said it best in the other thread, "The media usually like to show people of color in a negative light."
It's not that I don't like you or anything. It's just that the message that I'm getting is that you think the African-Americans are being treated unfairly and that they are somewhat being oppressed because of this, and that is NOT true. I hear this all the time, and it's pathetic. Slavery was over a century ago, African-Americans now have all the freedom everyone else can enjoy, but yet sometimes people still make it seem like they deserve much more than what they have right now, which is the same as everyone else.

Maybe you meant something else, or was making another point :shrug: That's just how I interpreted it :shrug:

selking
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:42 AM
Me??

no zippy

ampers&
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:46 AM
...the message that I'm getting is that you think the African-Americans are being treated unfairly and that they are somewhat being oppressed because of this, and that is NOT true. I hear this all the time, and it's pathetic. Slavery was over a century ago...
:speakles:
Slavery and the current oppression of minorities go hand and hand.
History will prove that.
It's FACT...oppression and racism still exist and they still affect minority communuties.
If you don’t realize this, you truly are young and/or naive.

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:58 AM
I have two questions for you all.

1) Who is Jessica Lynch?
2) Who is/was Natalee Holloway?

Yeah I know. The basic answers to those two questions are really easy. I mean only a fool or someone who has been completely oblivious to today’s news wouldn't know of these to white women.

Now I have two more questions.

3) Who is Shoshana Johnson?
4) Who is/was La'Toyia Figueroa?

Well I know most of you all here know of the latter person mentioned. Likely only cause there's a thread pertaining to her story now. I mean white America; oops I mean the American media sure didn't go out of their way to cover it. In fact she was missing for a damn month and the story didn't get any coverage that was note worthy up until they other day when they finally found her. I mean most of us were like, "they found whose body? Who was she?"

Now this what I believe the common American view of the persons in questions 1,2,3, & 4:

1) Wonderful white girl who is such an inspiration to us all.
2) Beautiful yet unfortunate young white girl who was taken advantage of (and possibly killed) be those damn Aruban hevans. It was so not her fault.

3) It really doesn't matter. She's black.
4) Who really cares anyway? She's black/Hispanic.

Now I may be wrong, but the disparity in media coverage and also one being held as a cultural icon (Ms Lynch) tends to insinuate my views to be true. Oh btw if you all didn't know of her. Ms Johnson was an Army Specialist that belonged to the same 507th Maintenance Company as Lynch. But unlike Lynch, Johnson fought to stave off their Iraqi captors. Like Lynch, she sustained serious injuries. Yeah, she was the other female POW captured with Lynch. 'What, you mean there was another one? Who would have thought it :rolleyes:' One has a book, a movie, been on news interview specials, and is loved and revered by "almost" all. The other... well at least her family and friends loves her. Yeah :o


:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

there was a dateline special about this and it talks about how it sooo fucking about race. people who say its not are just dreaming.
but it sooo fucked up, that the lives of blacks mean so little to so many :sad: :sad:

Zippy
Aug 22nd, 2005, 02:06 AM
:speakles:

uhh yea...i honestly can't belive you just posted that
Well believe it Hun. I wasn't going to bite my lip or hold my tougue in cheek this time. :p

Btw if you disagree you should respond back with an intelligent or at least semi intelligent rebuttal. That's how mature folks debate. ;)

TF Chipmunk
Aug 22nd, 2005, 02:14 AM
I don't see how my rebuttal was immature :confused:

Justeenium
Aug 22nd, 2005, 02:40 AM
:rolleyes:
Who killed Natalee Holloway? a white person: Joran Van der Sloot.

Who killed latoya figueroa? I couldn't find a source but judging by his behavior i'd wager a guess that Stephen Poaches was not white.

This works against you? get it?

spokenword73
Aug 22nd, 2005, 02:57 AM
:rolleyes:
Who killed Natalee Holloway? a white person: Joran Van der Sloot.

Who killed latoya figueroa? I couldn't find a source but judging by his behavior i'd wager a guess that Stephen Poaches was not white.

This works against you? get it?

We don't know Joran killed Natalee. He says he's innocent.
Stephen Poaches is black, so what is your point?

Cariaoke
Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:38 AM
I'm just going to post what a dear friend of mine just sent me. He is my inspiration:

you know the media only cares about us when we're either killin' some white folks, stealin' from 'em or *insert m.j. clause* messin' with their kids."

the american press/media are so biased & prejudiced in what they present to the people. you would think someone would create a national newspaper or news show dedicated solely to our communities. :idea: :boo:

mofos don't want you to know what's going on in our communities and it's a shame that so many people are unaware and that's there's no outlet for information specifically relating to us. i mean, hispanics have telemundo --- all spanish-speaking programming all the time: 24/7 365...what do we have? a twenty-some odd hour station showcasing nothing more than modern-day coonery and buffoonery that is absolutely ignorant, blatant and demeaning in its approach to showcase blacks, by feeding off age-old stereotypes of black people.

think about it: the one channel out of who knows how many that is actually supposed to be geared towards black audiences is white-owned. what sense does that make? that's like a dude trying to create a new tampon. wtf does he know about that? absolutely nothing...which is exactly what those whities who head up viacom's board of directors know about black people --- not all black people are concerned with blings, bitches, booties, booze, and blunts. along with jesse jackson and al sharpton, bet is one of the many causes of continued racial division in america today. while it purports to support black culture, it's instilling the idiotic ideas that plague black culture like cancer. basically, bet is the antithesis of the african diaspora and negates and nullifies everything our ancestors were, which is rightfully referred to and recognized as nothing more than a minstrel show supporting stereotypical views of blacks, instilling bad grammar and, in the end, doing much more harm than good.

i don't have much more to add to that other than: why is white, blonde and missing more intriguing than human and missing? No one is able to answer that... I wonder why.

ceiling_fan
Aug 22nd, 2005, 11:58 AM
i don't really know much about the media in America, but since i believe basically everything on prime time TV shows such as Law and Order....

The 'cops' on L&O:SVU were investigating this case about a black girl who was raped and killed, and they were like... "a white girl gets raped and it's all over the news and a black girl gets raped and what do we have on her? 4 cops"

i guess if it happens regularly enough to be mentioned on Law and Order, it's a real issue

Erika_Angel
Aug 22nd, 2005, 12:18 PM
Who is JOANNA KATHRYN ROGERS
Who is YOLANDA A. BINDICS
Who is KIPLYN DAVIS
Who is JAYCEE LEE DUGARD
Who is KRISTI LYNN NIKLE
Who is AUDREY MAY HERRON
Who is BETHANY LEANNE MARKOWSKI
Who is KRISTIN DENISE SMART
Who is KAELIN ROSE GLAZIER
Who is BROOKE CAROL WILBERGER

.... I haven't heard of any of these girls, and they are all white.

The media chooses the most exciting stories. The ones with the twists, the strange details etc that they can play up on the news.
The La'Toyia Figueroa case is just Lacey's case except she was less pregnant. From the media's point of view, it has been done. Unfortunate yes, but true.
The 3 hispanic kids got reasonable coverage considering they had been missing only 2 days or so and they all live in a poor neighbourhood and are (like i said) hispanic.

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:11 PM
:rolleyes:
Who killed Natalee Holloway? a white person: Joran Van der Sloot.

Who killed latoya figueroa? I couldn't find a source but judging by his behavior i'd wager a guess that Stephen Poaches was not white.

This works against you? get it?
wow you suck at logic. not even logic, just making any sense at all.

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:44 PM
Who is JOANNA KATHRYN ROGERS
Who is YOLANDA A. BINDICS
Who is KIPLYN DAVIS
Who is JAYCEE LEE DUGARD
Who is KRISTI LYNN NIKLE
Who is AUDREY MAY HERRON
Who is BETHANY LEANNE MARKOWSKI
Who is KRISTIN DENISE SMART
Who is KAELIN ROSE GLAZIER
Who is BROOKE CAROL WILBERGER

.... I haven't heard of any of these girls, and they are all white.

The media chooses the most exciting stories. The ones with the twists, the strange details etc that they can play up on the news.
The La'Toyia Figueroa case is just Lacey's case except she was less pregnant. From the media's point of view, it has been done. Unfortunate yes, but true.
The 3 hispanic kids got reasonable coverage considering they had been missing only 2 days or so and they all live in a poor neighbourhood and are (like i said) hispanic.
errrr...no
its impossible to cover every missing persons case. but there i can think of no case of any person of color that has been missing as much or near as much press as laci and the others. and the case of the hispanic boys came AFTER the particular media personalities and outlets got told of and recieved some bad press for refusing to cover the case of Tamika Huston. (and of course the very fact that these 3 missing hispanic boys stands out so much is evidence to what an anomaly it is that missing persons who are not white and female get any airtime at all.)

Is there gender, racial profiling in missing persons coverage?
Why some stories like Tamika Huston's are never told

Tamika Huston, 24, has been missing from Spartanburg, S.C. since June 2004. Her wallet, credit cards, and her dog were left in her apartment. Her car was found abandoned on the other side of town a week after she was reported missing.
Tamikahuston.com

Josh Mankiewicz
Correspondent
Missing American girls are often the lead story: The networks and the cable news channels can't seem to get enough of Laci, of Chandra, of Lori, of Jennifer, of Elizabeth, of Natalee.

Their disappearances have brought heartbreak and anguish to their families. But if all you did was watch the TV news in this country, you might think that these are the only people who are missing — or that their fate in particular is incredibly important. News channels tell the story of their disappearances not once, but again and again.

But in a country of almost 300 million, many other Americans are missing too.

Tamika Huston, bright and beautiful with an angel's voice, is one of the other missing Americans.

Tamika Huston's untold story
Aunt Rebkah Howard calls Huston "an amazing young woman."

"She's very bubbly, very bright," says Howard. "She has an amazing singing voice."

Huston's dream of becoming a singer led her to try out for the TV show "American Idol." She didn't make the cut, but the experience seemed to inspire her to set her sights beyond the life she was living in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

"I think she really realized, 'It's time for me to like figure out what I really want to do with the rest of my life,'" says her aunt.

And then, one day in late May of 2004, Huston vanishes. At 24, Huston had quit her waitressing job and was going out on interviews. Since she was living alone, it took a couple of weeks for her family to notice they hadn't heard from her in awhile.

"I spent Saturday and Sunday trying to find her," says Howard. By Monday morning, Howard called police in Spartanburg and told them something was terribly wrong.

Dog left alone
Police went to Tamika's home. She wasn't there and there was no sign of a struggle. And yet, what police did find was reason for her family to worry even more: Huston's abandoned dog.

"Her dog, Macy, who Tamika treated like her child, was there and had given birth to a litter of puppies," says Howard. "It had obviously been left alone for some time in distress. So, at that point, I knew, without question, that something had gone horribly wrong," says Howard.

And the police report got worse. Inside Tamika's home, police found her driver's license, her cell phone, and some uncashed paychecks. It didn't appear that Huston had just gone on vacation.

Six days later, officers found Huston's car on the other side of town. Inside the car, they found a set of keys that led them to apartments that seemingly had no connection to the missing woman.

Spartanburg Police Lieutenant Steve Lamb, who led the investigation, says he walked around that apartment complex asking if anybody had seen Huston.

Police were at work and so was Rebkah Howard, a public-relations executive in Miami.

PR blitz in Spartanburg
Howard did what she does best: She drafted press releases and started making phone calls.

In Spartanburg, her public relations skills paid off. The local media picked up on Tamika's story pretty quickly.

But Howard knew she had to spread the word outside Spartanburg. "Tamika could be anywhere from California to New York," she says. "I had no idea, so I wanted to cast as wide a net as I could possibly cast."

Broadcast networks initially don't respond
So Howard starting calling the broadcast networks. But nothing happened. "I couldn't understand why I wasn't even getting, you know, 'Thank you very much, but we're not interested in this story at this time,'" says Howard.

Howard says no one responded: Not at NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, or MSNBC.

It was crushing news for Howard. Her family had done everything they could think of from prayer vigils and a $30,000 reward to Web sites devoted to news about Huston. And this was a family with some connections — an uncle works for U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy, while Howard’s husband is former NFL star Desmond Howard (a Heisman trophy winner and later Super Bowl MVP).

But those connections didn't help enough and this family found the disinterest in Tamika's story frustrating. To them, Tamika's story was so similar to those of other women like Chandra Levy and Lori Hacking.

"Lori Hacking went missing about three weeks after my niece did and her family was getting round-the-clock coverage on that case," recalls Howard. "And I had just spent the preceding three weeks trying to get the attention of those same reporters, of those same programs, of those same networks, to pay attention to what I was saying about Tamika. I was flabbergasted."

Not taking ‘no’ for an answer
But Howard wouldn't take no for an answer: Seeing the steady drumbeat of the Laci Peterson coverage, she says she called the "Today" show directly and got nowhere. The same was true at "Good Morning America," at the "Early Show" on CBS, at "20/20" and "Dateline."

"I never got past — I was directed to send an e-mail, which I did," says Howard. But nobody ever messaged her back.

No one is claiming that every missing-persons story should get a place on the news — there are almost 50,000 people in the FBI's database of missing persons cases. But consider this: most of those missing adults are men. Almost 30 percent of those abducted or kidnapped are black.

So why is it that we in the news media, seem to focus so much on stories that involve victims who are young, attractive, female, and white?

"Tamika's young, she's attractive, middle class," says her aunt. "The only thing that she's isn't is white. You know, I don't know what else it could be."

If you’re missing, it helps to be young, white, female
The problem with MWP news stories
Before one can dismiss that criticism, there are numbers gathered by media analyst Andrew Tyndall, who regularly monitors network news: In the year Tamika's relatives were begging for airtime, the morning news broadcasts on NBC, ABC, and CBS aired a combined 941 minutes on the Laci Peterson story, 135 minutes about Lori Hacking (killed by her husband in Salt Lake City), and 98 minutes of coverage on Audrey Seiler (a University of Wisconsin student who faked her own abduction).

There was even more coverage on cable. At "Dateline," we did almost six hours just on the Laci Peterson story.

For this story, "Dateline" contacted the presidents of all three network news divisions, as well as the heads of the cable-news channels. Only one of them agreed to sit down for an interview: NBC News President Neal Shapiro (MSNBC.com is a joint venture between Microsoft and NBC).

Josh Mankiewicz: Why is there such a huge disparity in stories about white victims as opposed to all other kinds?

Neal Shapiro, NBC News president: Well let me say, I don't like hearing that that's true. Our mission is to try to cover America. And that means all facets of America. And when our coverage doesn't reflect that, it distresses me. That said, I think it's important that people in the industry talk about it. I think the fact that I'm talking about it, I think the fact that "Dateline NBC" is devoting airtime to it, means we take it seriously. And we have to do better.


Shapiro says the wall-to-wall coverage often starts not with the networks, but with cable, which has 24 hours to fill each day and can follow a developing story in an effort to hold an audience.

But that doesn't explain all those network hours devoted to stories like Laci Peterson.

Mankiewicz: I can only conclude that the reason we do those kinds of stories again and again and again is because they work with the audience. Because they get a rating.

Shapiro: I think we do stories that people care about. And there's no doubt that when a story gets, has, and reaches such talkability that everybody's talking about, that it's on Talk Radio, that it's on cable — that if we as a network news division feel like we can weigh in, we can advance the story — we should. I think we shouldn't be above the news.


Shapiro says that in NBC, there are no rules, written or unwritten, about who should or shouldn't be covered.

Shapiro: I think when the Peterson story first started, I remember hearing it on the radio. And I had no idea who the Petersons were or what they looked like. So I think, certainly, when we start to chase stories, I'm not sure we even know.

Mankiewicz: But is the fact that the victim in those cases turned out to be an attractive white woman — is that why we covered it so many times and devoted so much air time to it?

Shapiro: I hope not. And I don't think so.

Mankiewicz: To what extent is the race of the people involved a factor in making editorial decisions?

Shapiro: Let me make this clear. Race is not a factor in who we cover or how we cover it.

Not everyone is convinced.
"If you're covering the nation, cover the entire nation. If you're covering the American people, cover all the people," says Deborah Mathis, a newspaper columnist who also teaches journalism at Northwestern University.

"I'm not accusing news executives of racism, not per se. I am accusing them of ignorance," says Mathis, a former anchor, reporter, producer, and newsroom manager.

Finally, getting some attention
Months after Huston vanished, Howard finally made some headway. Tamika Huston's story got a 15-second mention on Fox news channel, "America's Most Wanted" aired a show about the case, and "Headline News" also did the story.

Meanwhile, police have made progress. Through a key found in Tamika's car, they discovered what might be a crime scene in a nearby apartment. Blood evidence on a carpet matched Tamika's DNA. And police now have a suspect, but no proof whether or not Tamika is dead or alive.

After "Dateline" interviewed Howard, USA Today picked up the story. And recently, news programs have been discussing not the story of Tamika, but why the story of her disappearance received so little attention.

Broadcast networks and cable news channels did give more coverage than usual to the story of three missing Hispanic boys in Camden, N.J.

And in the midst of the Natalee Holloway coverage, some national attention was given to the story of Latoyia Figueroa, a 24-year-old pregnant mother of one, who has been missing from Philadelphia since July 18.

Despite the best efforts of her family, Tamika Huston is still missing from her home and from the lives of her relatives. She's missing from those hours of network and cable news coverage as well.

But she is finally in the headlines — ironically, as a symbol of how missing Americans who look like her are almost never on the nation's electronic front page.

© 2005 MSNBC Interactive
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8667821/


now even nbc and other news orgs admit that something is afoot and for what its worth implied that they would try to do better in the future.

Helen Lawson
Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:50 PM
I think if a Black chick went missing and she had like a model-quality face and a killer body, then she'd get coverage like this. Otherwise, forget it. I think being white is the large factor, but by the same token, I've never seen any ugly white chicks get a lot of coverage when they go missing either. Elizabeth Msart
I'm thinking it Natalee Holloway was a dog, she would have gotten more coverage than a Black chick, but nowhere near what she really got.

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:06 PM
I think if a Black chick went missing and she had like a model-quality face and a killer body, then she'd get coverage like this. Otherwise, forget it. I think being white is the large factor, but by the same token, I've never seen any ugly white chicks get a lot of coverage when they go missing either. Elizabeth Msart
I'm thinking it Natalee Holloway was a dog, she would have gotten more coverage than a Black chick, but nowhere near what she really got.
so you are saying these ladies are ugly without ever having seen even a picture? thats mature. :rolleyes:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050722/050722_tamikahuston.vsmall.jpg
Tamika Huston

http://byroncrawford.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/storymissingwomanwpvi.jpg
Latoya Figueroa

Erika_Angel
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:07 PM
errrr...no
its impossible to cover every missing persons case. but there i can think of no case of any person of color that has been missing as much or near as much press as laci and the others. and the case of the hispanic boys came AFTER the particular media personalities and outlets got told of and recieved some bad press for refusing to cover the case of Tamika Huston. (and of course the very fact that these 3 missing hispanic boys stands out so much is evidence to what an anomaly it is that missing persons who are not white and female get any airtime at all.)

"Laci and the others"
The truth is there is not alot of people who go missing who get alot of coverage. Especially not to the extent of Laci, or Natalie H.

Like Helen said, if an attractive female went missing with model looks in some bizarre circumstance, she would most likely get coverage aswell.

Meanwhile I can't think of many cases (if any) where men have gone missing and gotten huge media coverage.
Why not start a thread about the media being sexist.
Oh no wait, playing the race card is about all you bunch are good at.
Fair enough.

Erika_Angel
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:09 PM
so you are saying the girl is ugly without ever having seen her? thats mature. :rolleyes:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050722/050722_tamikahuston.vsmall.jpg
Tamika Huston

http://byroncrawford.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/storymissingwomanwpvi.jpg
Latoya Figueroa

Try reading Helen's post. She said "model-quality face and a killer body."
She said white chicks who are ugly wouldn't get coverage.
She didn't call either of these girls ugly.

You read into things the way you want to see them, obviously.
Meanwhile these girls are nothing special, not ugly, but nothing wonderful IMO.

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:10 PM
"Laci and the others"
The truth is there is not alot of people who go missing who get alot of coverage. Especially not to the extent of Laci, or Natalie H.

Like Helen said, if an attractive female went missing with model looks in some bizarre circumstance, she would most likely get coverage aswell.

Meanwhile I can't think of many cases (if any) where men have gone missing and gotten huge media coverage.
Why not start a thread about the media being sexist.
Oh no wait, playing the race card is about all you bunch are good at.
Fair enough.

we get you didnt read the article and you think she's unattractive without ever seeing her picture, but whats your point?

ampers&
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:11 PM
Try reading Helen's post. She said "model-quality face and a killer body."
She said white chicks who are ugly wouldn't get coverage.
She didn't call either of these girls ugly.

You read into things the way you want to see them, obviously.
Meanwhile these girls are nothing special, not ugly, but nothing wonderful IMO.
As each post wears on, your ignorance becomes more and more obvious.

Erika_Angel
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:13 PM
As each post wears on, your ignorance becomes more and more obvious.

by saying I don't find the girls extremely attractive.
Yes how ignorant of me :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, as each post wears on, your desperation becomes more and more obvious. :rolleyes:

Erika_Angel
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:15 PM
we get you didnt read the article and you think she's unattractive without ever seeing her picture, but whats your point?

I never said she was unattractive .... try reading my post ..... And I have read the article, and seen pictures of the girls you have mentioned (numerous times ..... another assumption) ....... so jiggly ... what exactly is your point, other than making yourself look like an idiot?

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:17 PM
Try reading Helen's post. She said "model-quality face and a killer body."
She said white chicks who are ugly wouldn't get coverage.
She didn't call either of these girls ugly.

You read into things the way you want to see them, obviously.
Meanwhile these girls are nothing special, not ugly, but nothing wonderful IMO.

the claim that they are not attractive is simply put stupid. the claim that they are not as attractive as the white women who get a lot of air time is also stupid.

i mean do we not remember this:
http://www.skzdalimit.com/images/jennifer.wilbanks.jpg

Edit:
and this
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2004/03/30/image609367x.jpg

ampers&
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:20 PM
by saying I don't find the girls extremely attractive.
Yes how ignorant of me :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, as each post wears on, your desperation becomes more and more obvious. :rolleyes:
Please….desperate for what? :lol:
It’s obvious that people like you will see what they want to see, regardless of the factual information the glares right in front of they’re eyes.

Erika_Angel
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:23 PM
the claim that they are not attractive is simply put stupid. the claim that they are not as attractive as the white women who get a lot of air time is also stupid.

i mean do we not remember this:
http://www.skzdalimit.com/images/jennifer.wilbanks.jpg

Once again misrepresenting others posts seeing what you want.
I never said that people only get on if they are extremely attractive, Helena Lawson said that.
I just commented that the girls weren't extremely attractive. (they are pretty but thats about it - never said they weren't attractive)
If you read my posts I said that stories that are good stories get alot of coverage.
Jennifer Wilbanks was deemed the Runaway Bride. She had vanished after going for a run and was set to be married the next week. That was the whole think the media loved, was it cold feet, was she kidnapped? etc and they played it up accordingly.
When it turned out she had ran away, they had a field trip.

Try paying attention to my posts before making allogations.

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:24 PM
As each post wears on, your ignorance becomes more and more obvious.

thats what i have been saying :tape:

Erika_Angel
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:26 PM
Please….desperate for what? :lol:
It’s obvious that people like you will see what they want to see, regardless of the factual information the glares right in front of they’re eyes.

Desperate by using a comeback based on the fact that I'm showing my ignorance by saying that the two girls Jigglypuff posted pics off arn't super attractive ....... :tape:
Funny, I'd say the same thing about you.
Try looking on the FBI site on missing persons. There are alot of attractive women I have never heard of, one in particular who looks like she could be a model (blonde hair etc) but no never heard of her.

Erika_Angel
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:28 PM
thats what i have been saying :tape:

and you are both looking like idiots.

So jiggly I see you have steered the convo away from your false arguments against me saying that I said only Super attractive women get media attention (FALSE) ..... care to comment on my reply to your jennifer wilbanks comments?

EDIT: Well Whatever, Im off, it's been lovely arguing with you lol ;)

Justeenium
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:41 PM
wow you suck at logic. not even logic, just making any sense at all.

why? the media is focusing on a murder comitted by a white person rather than focusing on a double murderer(his girlfriend and her baby) that is black.

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:48 PM
Once again misrepresenting others posts seeing what you want.
I never said that people only get on if they are extremely attractive, Helena Lawson said that.
I just commented that the girls weren't extremely attractive. (they are pretty but thats about it - never said they weren't attractive)
If you read my posts I said that stories that are good stories get alot of coverage.
Jennifer Wilbanks was deemed the Runaway Bride. She had vanished after going for a run and was set to be married the next week. That was the whole think the media loved, was it cold feet, was she kidnapped? etc and they played it up accordingly.
When it turned out she had ran away, they had a field trip.

Try paying attention to my posts before making allogations.

um did you not make a big deal about how they had to be "model quality" and i am saying that nethier one of those women who got a LOT of press as "missing persons" anything near model quality.

Wigglytuff
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:55 PM
why? the media is focusing on a murder comitted by a white person rather than focusing on a double murderer(his girlfriend and her baby) that is black.

because you miss point entirely.
no one knows who killed these missing persons or what happened to them thats why they "MISSING PERSONS" and they get the coverage regardless. some of these white women get the coverage even if they faked thier own disappearance.
and finally most people who have any violent acts commited agaisnt them its by someone of their own race.

basicly the race of the person commiting the crime is usually unknown and rarely the issue (unless you are talking about susan smith)

spokenword73
Aug 22nd, 2005, 06:27 PM
because you miss point entirely.
no one knows who killed these missing persons or what happened to them thats why they "MISSING PERSONS" and they get the coverage regardless. some of these white women get the coverage even if they faked thier own disappearance.
and finally most people who have any violent acts commited agaisnt them its by someone of their own race.

basicly the race of the person commiting the crime is usually unknown and rarely the issue (unless you are talking about susan smith)

:worship:

Erika_Angel
Aug 23rd, 2005, 04:52 AM
um did you not make a big deal about how they had to be "model quality" and i am saying that nethier one of those women who got a LOT of press as "missing persons" anything near model quality.

No I never said they had to be "model quality"
I only ever started mentioning looks after you misread Helen's post and clarified what she had stated, thouh I never agreed with it Then gave my view on the looks of the two women you posted photo's of.
I Never said anything about missing persons having to have "model quality" to get media attention. If you look back I based it on the excitment of the story involved.

Wigglytuff
Aug 23rd, 2005, 06:33 AM
No I never said they had to be "model quality"
I only ever started mentioning looks after you misread Helen's post and clarified what she had stated, thouh I never agreed with it Then gave my view on the looks of the two women you posted photo's of.
I Never said anything about missing persons having to have "model quality" to get media attention. If you look back I based it on the excitment of the story involved.
oh whatever you are just running on empty :wavey:

Knizzle
Aug 23rd, 2005, 06:41 AM
Don't forget the runaway bride. Had everyone feeling sorry for her family and praying for her safety and come to find out that she just didn't want to get married. You can't tell me there would have been national daily coverage of a black lady who disappeared right before her wedding.

Erika_Angel
Aug 23rd, 2005, 08:18 AM
oh whatever you are just running on empty :wavey:

Omg whatever :lol:
More like I just prooved you make things up for your own benifit and you have no reply .... so i'm apparently "running on empty"
Whatever Jiggles. Don't you get tired of always losing to me in arguments?

Wigglytuff
Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:10 PM
Don't forget the runaway bride. Had everyone feeling sorry for her family and praying for her safety and come to find out that she just didn't want to get married. You can't tell me there would have been national daily coverage of a black lady who disappeared right before her wedding.
:worship: :worship: :worship:

spokenword73
Aug 23rd, 2005, 02:37 PM
Cable tv is obsessing over a couple of more missing (white) people these days: Olivia Newton John's b/f and a "model" type college girl who disappeared from a bar. HOw many black men go missing every day and does the media care? :shrug: