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Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:21 PM
Here are the choices, now who do you fancy as the pair that brings the most drama, the best tennis, the gut wrenching emotional roller coaster you ever saw on a tennis court!

Bring it on Ladies!

tobe
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:37 PM
difficult. I guess I go for Jennifer-Serena cos they met so often and their matches really brought lots of drama! Especially during Serena's peak, Jen was most of the time even and played amazing against her, but in the end Serena had more energy I guess! Then last year, Jennifer turned to play more defensive against Serena which brought less quality but she finally won again and the drama was still there (US Open...) So, emotinal rollercoaster fits as well, those ladies always fought so hard and really gave it to each other!
While writing this, I realize I really miss this match up! Please come back Jen!

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:38 PM
masha-ree

Zippy
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:44 PM
I'd have to say that Justine vs Serena is the most compelling and brings the most drama. Also they resently have had a more competitive rivally with Justine winning 2 of the last 3.

Knizzle
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:47 PM
I'd have to say that Justine vs Serena is the most compelling and brings the most drama. Also they resently have had a more competitive rivally with Justine winning 2 of the last 3.

Why is that??

Diesel
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:47 PM
I wouldn't mind Venus and Maria getting one started :)

Knizzle
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Serena vs Sharapova. Ever since the Wimbledon final there seems to be something special about these 2 hooking up. There is just so much tension when they have to face off now. Serena wants to prove that the Wimbledon final was a fluke and Maria wants to prove that she is in fact a better player than Serena.

Knizzle
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:49 PM
I wouldn't mind Venus and Maria getting one started :)

Yeah, but I don't think they should be in this poll cause they don't really have a rivalry yet.

Pengwin
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:49 PM
V vs D

Volcana
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:51 PM
The only matchup on that list that even qualifies as a 'rivalry' is Serena Williams-Jennifer Capriati. Oh that's not true. It's just that there's some actual negative emotion there.

Henin-Hardenne vs Clijsters SHOULD be a rivalry, and maybe in Eurpoe it is. But to me, Henin-Hardenne wins whenever it's important. Like a slam final. Y'know, I'm not being fair. It's a rivalry. And a good one, actually.

Venus Williams vs Lindsay Davenport SHOULD be a rivalry, but it's not. Just too great players with a lot of respect for each other and a ridiculously close head-to-head. 14-13.

I guess my real problem with this is that I was around for the whole 80 matches of Evert-Navratilova. So I just can't treat a 2-2 head-to-head as in any way significant. Even 10-10 doesn't seem like so many matches.

serenafan08
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:51 PM
I'd have to say that Justine vs Serena is the most compelling and brings the most drama. Also they resently have had a more competitive rivally with Justine winning 2 of the last 3.
They haven't played in two years...and the only time Justine ever beats Serena is on clay. This isn't a rivalry yet.

The best one is Jennifer/Serena. They always go three sets, the matches are always drama-filled, and there's been a war of words between these two as well. There always seems to be some type of controversy with these two as well, so that fuels the fire.

CJ07
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:51 PM
personally, i'm sick of seeing Venus vs. Davenport every 2 secs

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Serena vs JCap- always full of tons of drama and since no other player has defeated Serena more than Jen it's always a nail bitter. These two love to compete against one another and when they play it's probably the most intense rivalry we have.

Serena vs Sharapova- they've only played 4 times but they are tied at 2 wins a piece. Every match they seem to play seems like it's an important match. These two have battled at the later stages of slams, but unlike JCap and Serena they have played in a final of a major against one another. This rivalry is turning into one of the most exciting on tour.

Serena vs Justine- too bad they haven't had a chance to play lately, but I have a feeling that when they do end up facing each other their rivalry will pick up right where it left off. This is another high drama battle and I love how neither player wants to give an inch.

Lindsay vs Venus- I'm not sure why this rivalry hasn't been "The Rivalry" you have all the ingredients. I think it's because for so long their rivalry has swung either one way or the other. Late in their rivalry it's become more and more a toss up as to who will win and that just adds to the excitement.

Kim vs Justine- this rivalry is on par with Serena vs. Venus... all the ingredients are there for fireworks, but you never know what kind of match you'll get. I'm anxious to see these two resume their on-court battles.

mr_burns
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:54 PM
If Jen was playing, I'd voted for her against serena. So I had to decide: Kim against Lindsay or Maria against Serena. Both had tough fights in the last 12 months.

I chose Kim against lindsay, just because I think these two are the best in the world at the moment. every match between them is a little final

serenafan08
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:55 PM
Serena vs Sharapova. Ever since the Wimbledon final there seems to be something special about these 2 hooking up. There is just so much tension when they have to face off now. Serena wants to prove that the Wimbledon final was a fluke and Maria wants to prove that she is in fact a better player than Serena.
Let this one develop first. A 2-2 head to head is a good start, but the matches between these two are really far apart. They played at Miami in March of '04, then Wimbledon of July '04, then Los Angeles of November '04, and now January of '05 - and they haven't played since then. When they start playing more frequently, then it will really shape into a rivalry.

Sam L
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:58 PM
Before Maria came along, I would've said Venus vs. Serena. And it was for awhile. But they both never played well at the same time. Maybe, with Venus back now, that rivalry could be renewed.

I like Serena vs. l'Enfant Terrible too. :lol:

Knizzle
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:59 PM
Let this one develop first. A 2-2 head to head is a good start, but the matches between these two are really far apart. They played at Miami in March of '04, then Wimbledon of July '04, then Los Angeles of November '04, and now January of '05 - and they haven't played since then. When they start playing more frequently, then it will really shape into a rivalry.

You don't have to play 30 times to have a rivalry. They played 3 times in 04, that's a good amount for one year. 3 of their 4 matches have been huge matches.

serenafan08
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:59 PM
You don't have to play 30 times to have a rivalry. They played 3 times in 04, that's a good amount for one year. 3 of their 4 matches have been huge matches.
True. :yeah:

Zippy
Jul 12th, 2005, 10:07 PM
Why is that??
Why is what :confused:

Why is it the most compelling and drama filled?
Cause it's a poll with choices, and I have an opinion and you have an opinion. And in my opinion it is.

Why did I note that it's getting more competitive?
Cause domination (which was the case between these two before) isn't a rivalry, so to be classed as a rivalry it has to go either way sometimes.

*Karen*
Jul 12th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Jen vs Serena. Lindsay vs kim or venus can also be good sometimes.

Sam's Slave
Jul 12th, 2005, 10:21 PM
patty-conchita maybe

Knizzle
Jul 12th, 2005, 10:23 PM
Why is what :confused:

Why is it the most compelling and drama filled?
Cause it's a poll with choices, and I have an opinion and you have an opinion. And in my opinion it is.

I guess I can't ask you a question ever again since you are biting my head off. I just wanted to know why you thought it was compelling and drama filled and what you said above doesn't explain what about their matches made you think that way.

deckham
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:20 PM
those aren't really good choices.... serena hardly plays any of them anymore... sharapova doesn't have a rivalry with anyone anymore.....

i'd say the best rivalries going on for dramatic entertaining tennis is nastya v. any other russian... hahaha....

but there aren't any real rivalries anymore... not yet... the one's that seem like rivalries are very one-sided

JenFan75
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:27 PM
Jen and Serena

volta
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:32 PM
Jennifer Cap vs Rena. now that really was a rivality that was worth to watch :hearts: :hearts: amazing matchs

Vee vs Rena is not a rivality imo and Maria vs Rena it´s not one as well(at least for now)

SJW
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:36 PM
They haven't played in two years...and the only time Justine ever beats Serena is on clay. This isn't a rivalry yet.
.

:D

at the moment: Serena vs Masha. although i am interested in how Serena-Venus will turn out. Serena has been the superior player for a few years but now Venus is back on form. that is gonna be awesome viewing. lindsay and venus have great matches too now.

volta
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:39 PM
what about Cap vs Vee? i mean they were the top 2 players at that time i think that that was a really good one 2 although Jen never managed to defeat Vee

Wiggly
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:42 PM
I would loves to see a Myskina/Sharapova :devil:

Now, it's Serena vs Sharapova by a miles :)

GoDominique
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:46 PM
Right now there's none.

Shonami Slam
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:47 PM
I think nowadays the top players sometimes barely play.
serena and venus are almost boycotting anything that isn't GS status, JHH and even Kim look to follow.
that gives us less oppurtunites to have match-ups.
Nadal-Federer grew to be so huge since in one year they started meating all the time BECAUSE they competed and won all the time.
for a big rivalary, you need big players.
graf just didn't lose early. same for evert, navratilova and so on.
with serena not playing a slam, then going out so early or the opposite with venus aussie and RG to wimbledon, lindsay not dealing with clay and justine almost worthless on grass - you lose alot of the spice, even if the players could meet in the draw they don't reach that far.
we have to wait a few years to see who's business.

Gowza
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:51 PM
none of them really compell me, each rivalry have had a couple of really good matches but i wouldnt say one rivalry is better than the other. probably the justine/jen match at the us open a couple years ago was the best, then probably a serena/jen match then serena/justine. i think the clijsters/henin rivalry might become more interesting, kim seems to be playing well while justine isnt as consistent as she was before so that one might become the best in the near future.

vwfan
Jul 13th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Serena vs Sharapova. Ever since the Wimbledon final there seems to be something special about these 2 hooking up. There is just so much tension when they have to face off now. Serena wants to prove that the Wimbledon final was a fluke and Maria wants to prove that she is in fact a better player than Serena.

I agree. They both think they are the best and are trying to prove it to the other player. I think Serena has the mental edge here now though.

vwfan
Jul 13th, 2005, 12:40 AM
I chose Kim against lindsay, just because I think these two are the best in the world at the moment. every match between them is a little final

hmmm. . .really.
I guess it is because they are always meeting in slam finals and one or the other defeating the other to take the trophy. :tape:

I like them both actually, but I would hardly say they are the best in the world, certainly if you go by their grand slam performances.

shap_half
Jul 13th, 2005, 12:50 AM
Definitely Kim and Justine. They are now tied at 9-9 in their H2H.

They've had compelling matches and there is a true sense of rivalry between them.

Of course the last time they've played was a year and a half ago in Australia, but they're both fabulous and this rivalry is the most interesting.

ezekiel
Jul 13th, 2005, 12:50 AM
Maria vs Lindsay :confused:
Clearly Maria is under pressure to grab no.1 but Linsay sticks around just enough to keep it for herself.

Martian Jeza
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:04 AM
Maria Sharapova vs. WS
The Belgians specialy JHH vs. WS

morningglory
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:06 AM
Maria S vs Karatancheva hands down :angel:
Of course,... in about 5 years.... :)

Paneru
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:14 AM
The only matchup on that list that even qualifies as a 'rivalry' is Serena Williams-Jennifer Capriati. Oh that's not true. It's just that there's some actual negative emotion there.

Henin-Hardenne vs Clijsters SHOULD be a rivalry, and maybe in Eurpoe it is. But to me, Henin-Hardenne wins whenever it's important. Like a slam final. Y'know, I'm not being fair. It's a rivalry. And a good one, actually.

Venus Williams vs Lindsay Davenport SHOULD be a rivalry, but it's not. Just too great players with a lot of respect for each other and a ridiculously close head-to-head. 14-13.

I guess my real problem with this is that I was around for the whole 80 matches of Evert-Navratilova. So I just can't treat a 2-2 head-to-head as in any way significant. Even 10-10 doesn't seem like so many matches.


Well, Lindsay/Venus is like 14/13.

Don't believe any other two players
on tour have as many matches between them.

So,are you saying V&L aren't a "Rivalry" because
their is no animoscity of any kind between the two?

Knizzle
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:19 AM
Well, Lindsay/Venus is like 14/13.

Don't believe any other two players
on tour have as many matches between them.

So,are you saying V&L aren't a "Rivalry" because
their is no animoscity of any kind between the two?

They really don't seem like rivals to me either.

volta
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:27 AM
They really don't seem like rivals to me either.
me 2. can´t see them as rivals

~ The Leopard ~
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:47 AM
Amelie Mauresmo and Venus Williams

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:48 AM
I still think it's Jen and Serena

~ The Leopard ~
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:51 AM
Or for comic relief, Anna Kournikova and Patty Schnyder. :D

Knizzle
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:51 AM
Amelie Mauresmo and Venus Williams

Venus will get revenge in Toronto!! :devil:

ezekiel
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:59 AM
I still think it's Jen and Serena

Rivalry "today". Jen hasn't played in a while and hasn't been at her best even longer.

Paneru
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:00 AM
me 2. can´t see them as rivals
So is it safe to assume that what makes a "good"
rivalry is if their is visible tension between the two
opponents, otherwise it isn't?

LeRoy.
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:01 AM
I loved to see Jen and Serena play each other but with Jen out i prefer to see Maria v/s Serena .

Knizzle
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:07 AM
So is it safe to assume that what makes a "good"
rivalry is if their is visible tension between the two
opponents, otherwise it isn't?

I know the Wimbledon final was good, but before that their matchups were kinda stale.

Stamp Paid
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:24 AM
Serena/Masha, altho I hope Serena/Juju can resume so all Henin fans will know, without a doubt, Enna cannot challenge Serena on non-clay courts. :) :devil:

StarDuvallGrant
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:35 AM
So is it safe to assume that what makes a "good"
rivalry is if their is visible tension between the two
opponents, otherwise it isn't?

That seems to be the case with the top choices.

Sam L
Jul 13th, 2005, 10:53 AM
I know the Wimbledon final was good, but before that their matchups were kinda stale.
Yeah tell me about it. I'm glad we were pleasantly surprised by the Wimbledon final though.

SJW
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:02 AM
I know the Wimbledon final was good, but before that their matchups were kinda stale.

you gotta be kidding me knizzle lol their USO match last year was great (and everyone was saying that at the time too). their Stanford final was one of the most hotly contested matches of the year last year. and Venus was treeing like anything in AI in the first set of this years QF.

and that's just recently

Mr_Molik
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:13 AM
kimmy vs henin
serena vs henin
serena vs sharapova

Sunny_Boy
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:22 AM
Myskina vs Sharapova

DragonFlame
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:26 AM
owh my god, now i realise the great matchups i've missed so much. im really looking forward to the serena-justine battle and a belgiumencounter is always very special. have the feeling they are gonna meet pretty soon :) :worship: :bounce:

Volcana
Jul 13th, 2005, 12:55 PM
So,are you saying V&L aren't a "Rivalry" because
their is no animoscity of any kind between the two?A rivalry is when you have a persona stake in beating that particular opponent, and you've HAD a personal stake in beating that opponent for a long time. Neither Venus nor Lindsay have ever given any indication that playing the other meant anything more than they knew they would have a hard time.

Evert and Navratoliva grew very close over time. But for a long time, any tournament they were in was simply routine destruction til they met the other one. They had no other real opponent. Plus contrasting styles, gay vs straight, all-time greats, yada, yada, yada....

Venus and Lindsay don't have the contrasting style thing. She's basically, 'the white Williams sister'. Big serving, big hitting, multi-GS winning baseliner from California. Every succeeding model is shorter, faster and wins more GS titles.

Things between Camp Hingis and Camp Williams, OTOH were so bad the WTA stepped in to make peace. That's the sort of element that helps make a rivalry. This one had all the elements. Contrasting styles. Racial tension. Similarity in ages. Melanie Molitor refused to even talk about Richard Williams after a while. Because of course you had the rivalry between parent/coaches. Absolute hatred between fans. But what sustained it was good tennis. Because when all was said and done, Venus and Martina had genuine respect for each other.

Jen and Serena, beside having so many good matches, are both so willing to say things to the media that are just bound to piss off the other one. Besides, they're both a bit paranoid. Each of them genuinely think the refs are trying to cheat them. (of course, sometimes it actually LOOKS that way. Serena has yelled at the chair umpire when playing Venus.

Serena and Maria Sharapova have played ONE good match.
2004 MIAMI....... HARD (O) 4r S WILLIAMS.. 6-4 6-3
2004 WIMBLEDON... GRAS (O) FR SHARAPOVA... 6-1 6-4
2004 WTA CHAMPS.. HARD (I) FR SHARAPOVA... 4-6 6-2 6-4
2005 AUS OPEN.... HARD (O) SF S WILLIAMS.. 2-6 7-5 8-6
Miami '04 was a routine straight set win.
Wimbledon '04 was a shock, but it wasn't a close match, or a good one from Serena.
Serena couldn't lift here arm to serve during the '04 Tour Championships.
OZ '05 was the first time they both played two good sets of tennis in the same match.

I think there's a rivalry between some of the fans of the two players, especially the ones more intersted in clothes and magazine covers than what happens on the court.

Volcana
Jul 13th, 2005, 12:59 PM
BTW, Patty Schnyder and Conchita Martinez

Chunchun
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:01 PM
Serena vs. Sharapova - the most dramatic :rolls:

Lindsay vs. Venus - the classic :boxing:

Doc
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:03 PM
Maria versus Serena is clearly the marquee match now. With four dramatic matches splitting 2-2 with major titles on the line in the most recent three, this has to be the rivalry of the moment.

Serena-Capriati is just a non-runner at the moment.
The same "no recent match-up" factor rules out Justine-Serena.
Venus-Serena matches have tended to be damp squibs for various reasons.
Kim-Justine was once, but isn't at the moment.
Maria-Venus hasn't really sparked into a rivalry yet.
Lindsay has tended to tank big matches at slams - so no classic rivalries.

Serena-Maria without a doubt atm.

Zippy
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Though it's been way too long ago since their last match for my taste, JuJu & Rena seems to be a pretty good rivalry:

2001 US OPEN R16 ..........................S. WILLIAMS 7-5, 6-0
2001 SANEX CHAMPIONSHIPS Qtr ......S. WILLIAMS 6-3, 7-6(5)
2002 BERLIN Final ...........................J. HENIN-HARDENNE 6-2, 1-6, 7-6(5)
2002 ROME Final ............................S. WILLIAMS 7-6(6), 6-4
2002 LEIPZIG Semi ..........................S. WILLIAMS 6-4, 6-2
2003 CHARLESTON Final ..................J. HENIN-HARDENNE 6-3, 6-4
2003 FRENCH OPEN Semi ..................J. HENIN-HARDENNE 6-2, 4-6, 7-5
2003 WIMBLEDON Semi ....................S. WILLIAMS 6-3, 6-2

H2H currently 5-3 in Rena's favor att.

Plus these two have arguably been the best in the world of the 21st century, and usually the better rivalries tend to be the best versus the best.
:)

Xanadu11
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:33 PM
Maria and Serena. They are just two great personalities to watch, who play which such high intensity.

Venus vs Hingis was one of my favourite rivalries though, that rivalry had everything.

RenaSlam.
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Maria vs. Serena, hands down.

jfk
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:15 PM
Best rivalries:

1. Capriati/Serena - best personality clash; both are so emotional and great fighters, and you can tell they have a slightly divisive relationship; so many great matches with unparalled intensity. They need to play in GS finals though!
2. Serena/Sharapova - not a huge fan of this rivalry yet as Maria is too robotic and predictable at times to give the emotional heft needed...but it's the best rivalry taking place the last two years
3. JHH/Capriati - they push each other soooo hard and have had 6 of 7 matches go 3 sets, with one being my favorite match of all time....unfortunately, the last time they played was in 2003.
4. Davenport/Venus - for being so prolific in an age where players don't meet as often
5. Serena/JHH - most of their matches have been straight sets but it needs to be renewed ASAP...has potential to be one of the best ever

These are the five that stand out. Clijsters is too nice to engage in compelling rivalries. The Russians aside from Maria respect each other too much and don't seem to play well against each other. There aren't any rivalries brewing between a Russian and another player, except for maybe Dementieva-Mauresmo. Mauresmo does have some nice rivalries with Serena, Jen, and JHH....but she doesn't interest me enough and hasn't done enough in her career to ever seem to be a huge threat to the big players

Paneru
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:38 PM
I know the Wimbledon final was good, but before that their matchups were kinda stale.

How so?
In tennis terms of play or
high drama resulting from
tension for what was on the line?

IMO, their last four of five matches were
some great tennis and drama.

Again, I guess because their isn't the extra
tension as with a Serena/Maria some won't
find it interesting because Venus/Lindsay
genuinely like and respect each other.


Lindsay vs. Venus 14/13

F Wimbledon July 3 2005 V Williams(14) - L Davenport(1) 4-6 7-6(4) 9-7
QF Amelia I. Apr 10 2005 L Davenport(1) - V Williams(5) 1-6 6-3 6-4
4 US Open Sep 12 2004 L Davenport(5) - V Williams(11) 7-5 6-4
SF L. Angeles July 25 2004 L Davenport(3) - V Williams(2) 7-5 2-0
F Stanford July 18 2004 L Davenport(2) - V Williams(1) 7-6(4) 5-7 7-6(4)
QF Wimbledon July 6 2003 V Williams(4) - L Davenport(5) 6-2 2-6 6-1
F New Haven Aug 25 2002 V Williams(1) - L Davenport(2) 7-5 6-0
SF San Diego Aug 4 2002 V Williams(1) - L Davenport(3) 6-2 6-1
F New Haven Aug 26 2001 V Williams(3) - L Davenport(1) 7-6(6) 6-4
SF San Diego Aug 5 2001 V Williams(2) - L Davenport(4) 6-2 7-5
SF Wimbledon July 8 2001 V Williams(2) - L Davenport(3) 6-2 6-7(1) 6-1
F Linz Oct 22 2000 L Davenport(1) - V Williams(2) 6-4 3-6 6-2
F US Open Sep 10 2000 V Williams(3) - L Davenport(2) 6-4 7-5
F Stanford July 30 2000 V Williams(2) - L Davenport(1) 6-1 6-4
F Wimbledon July 9 2000 V Williams(5) - L Davenport(2) 6-3 7-6(3)
SF Ph'delphia Nov 14 1999 L Davenport(2) - V Williams(3) 6-2 6-1
F New Haven Aug 29 1999 V Williams(2) - L Davenport(1) 6-2 7-5
SF San Diego Aug 8 1999 V Williams(4) - L Davenport(1) 6-4 7-5
F Stanford Aug 1 1999 L Davenport(1) - V Williams(2) 7-6(1) 6-2
QF Australian O. Jan 31 1999 L Davenport(1) - V Williams(5) 6-4 6-0
F Zurich Oct 18 1998 L Davenport(1) - V Williams(2) 7-5 6-3
SF US Open Aug 23 1998 L Davenport(2) - V Williams(5) 6-4 6-4
F Stanford Aug 2 1998 L Davenport(1) - V Williams(3) 6-4 5-7 6-4
SF Oklahoma C Mar 1 1998 V Williams(3) - L Davenport(1) 6-7(5) 6-2 6-3
QF Australian O. Feb 1 1998 L Davenport(2) - V Williams 1-6 7-5 6-3
QF Zurich Oct 19 1997 L Davenport(4) - V Williams-Q 6-0 6-4
QF Indian W. Mar 16 1997 L Davenport(4) - V Williams-Q 6-4 5-7 7-6(1)


I wish I could've seen their 1st meeting and
the 1st time Venus won against Lindsay.


Hope they meet in Stanford again! :cool:

daffodil
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:45 PM
I'd have to say that Justine vs Serena is the most compelling and brings the most drama. Also they resently have had a more competitive rivally with Justine winning 2 of the last 3.

Justine and Serena have a great rivalry on clay.


2002 Berlin- Justine d. Serena 6-2, 1-6, 7-6
2002 Rome- Serena d. Justine 7-6, 6-4
2003 Charleston- Justine d. Serena 6-3, 6-4
2003 FO- Justine d. Serena 6-2, 4-6, 7-5

Those were all fantastic matches. But, Serena led Justine in ALL of those matches. She had a match point in one, a two-break lead in another, and a match game in another.

They have a great rivalry on clay. On hard, grass, and indoor, they do not have a rivalry. Serena is way superior.

goldenlox
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:50 PM
I don't think there is a major rivalry right now. The top 3 players do not hold majors. 4 others do.
That's 7, and Kim won IW & Miami. That's 8.
The US Open will help to clear things up a little.

Experimentee
Jul 13th, 2005, 04:08 PM
The most exciting IMO is Serena v Sharapova. Both are similar in style and on court personality, they are fierce competitors, best fighters in the game, who never give up. Both like to go for broke, and its a contest of who can overpower the other, as well as mentally win the battle. They are both out to prove they are the best.

The best rivalries are the ones involving Williams sisters, as this poll shows. Who can say they arent good for tennis?

DragonFlame
Jul 13th, 2005, 04:32 PM
i really dont think you can say serena is way superior then justine on all servises then clay. The last time they met was in 2003! This was before serena lost her best form and justine was at her peak. I would really need to see another meeting before i can say serena is superior. Its just impossible to say someone is better based on meetings 2 years ago, so much has changed. Justine is a 4time grandslamchampoin now and mental much better then she was.
so before you guys make conclusions, wait for their first meeting again.

RoanHJ
Jul 13th, 2005, 04:42 PM
I don't think there is a major rivalry right now. The top 3 players do not hold majors. 4 others do.
That's 7, and Kim won IW & Miami. That's 8.
The US Open will help to clear things up a little.

I went with Serena and Justine. Although, Serena and Maria is a close second. I like the Serena/ Justine because they do have a bit of a difference in style. Plus, there always seems to be a bit of drama when they play each other. The thing is I argee with the statement about there being no major rivalry right now. I still don't see anything out there that matched the Martina Navratilova/Chris Evert type of rivalry. Now that was a good one :worship:

Andy T
Jul 13th, 2005, 05:12 PM
Interesting question.

I'm speaking for myself here but guess for a "rivalry" to exist in your head, you automatically think of the second player when you think of the first, not in the sense of Nav & Shriver, King & Casals but in the sense of the opponent, like Court vs King, Evert vs Navratilova and so on.

For me right now, if I think of Venus, then it's Lindsay, if I think of Serena, then it's Masha (not Jen, curiously), and if I think of Justine, it's Kim (scratches head)....hmmm... have to think about this more.

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 13th, 2005, 05:25 PM
Interesting question.

I'm speaking for myself here but guess for a "rivalry" to exist in your head, you automatically think of the second player when you think of the first, not in the sense of Nav & Shriver, King & Casals but in the sense of the opponent, like Court vs King, Evert vs Navratilova and so on.

For me right now, if I think of Venus, then it's Lindsay, if I think of Serena, then it's Masha (not Jen, curiously), and if I think of Justine, it's Kim (scratches head)....hmmm... have to think about this more.
For me it's more about that mouth watering anticipation that comes from the thought of any two players doing battle. The best rivalries are drenched in excitement and anticipation. Let's assume that all the top players were going to be at the US Open- which potential match up would guarantee that every seat would be filled. Who are the fans most excited to see battle, which previous match-ups have produced the most excitement... these are the things that go through my head when trying to decipher the most compelling rivalries in the sport. And again it's usually Serena vs. some other big name:

Serena- Maria, Serena- JCap, Serena-JuJu

Jenny.C.Fan
Jul 13th, 2005, 06:00 PM
Without doubt jennifer and serena its an awesome rivalry they nearly always have great matches

.ivy.
Jul 13th, 2005, 06:07 PM
For me, it'd definitely be JHH v. Serena.

JHH has won the last two times they've played. Plus, they're both coming back from injury and will have that desire and hunger for the game. It'll be interesting to see the two play.

Zippy
Jul 13th, 2005, 06:32 PM
For me, it'd definitely be JHH v. Serena.

JHH has won the last two times they've played. Plus, they're both coming back from injury and will have that desire and hunger for the game. It'll be interesting to see the two play.
Try two of the last three ;)

Rena won the last: Wimbledon Semi 03 :)

Knizzle
Jul 13th, 2005, 10:15 PM
you gotta be kidding me knizzle lol their USO match last year was great (and everyone was saying that at the time too). their Stanford final was one of the most hotly contested matches of the year last year. and Venus was treeing like anything in AI in the first set of this years QF.

and that's just recently

They were horrible quality matches though.

SJW
Jul 13th, 2005, 10:19 PM
They were horrible quality matches though.
they were? :confused:
to each their own. i kinda enjoyed them, if not the result :dance:
although AI did get kinda boring towards the end. maybe i need to watch Stanford again. but i remain firm on the USO match ;)

Knizzle
Jul 13th, 2005, 10:24 PM
they were? :confused:
to each their own. i kinda enjoyed them, if not the result :dance:
although AI did get kinda boring towards the end. maybe i need to watch Stanford again. but i remain firm on the USO match ;)

Well it was the same thing over and over. Lindsay playing the FH and letting Venus beat herself. It gets boring after a while and we all know only one of them was playing well the last few matches.

Siyasema
Jul 13th, 2005, 10:32 PM
Serena and Jen matches are by far the best in terms of a rivalry.

SJW
Jul 13th, 2005, 10:35 PM
For me, it'd definitely be JHH v. Serena.

JHH has won the last two times they've played. Plus, they're both coming back from injury and will have that desire and hunger for the game. It'll be interesting to see the two play.

nah, Henin hasnt really competed on the faster surfaces and Serena has only 1 win in 4 matches on clay. it was pretty predictable: clay= Justine, everything else=Serena (even though Serena gets closer on clay than JHH on faster surfaces).

maybe that will change. then it can be a rivalry

Dirty Sanchez
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:35 PM
I've always loved the rivalry between JenCap and Serena but unfortunately that's had to have been put on hold for a while! :( :sad:

Dawn Marie
Jul 14th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Well imho I thought Venus vrs Maria had some great chemistry. They both screamed, they both have long lines and both have huge wingspans. I don't know I felt some chemistry during the Wimbeldon tournament semifinal.

irishgirl
Jul 14th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Lindsay and Venus-The matches between these two nearly kill me! It’s my favourite player against the player I like the least and at this stage there is so much history between them- the last two matches have been epics! I also think that Serena and Momo is an interesting rivalry, even though Serena has ted their encounters there is definently a “bite” there.

Knizzle
Jul 14th, 2005, 12:55 AM
Lindsay and Venus-The matches between these two nearly kill me! It’s my favourite player against the player I like the least and at this stage there is so much history between them- the last two matches have been epics! I also think that Serena and Momo is an interesting rivalry, even though Serena has ted their encounters there is definently a “bite” there.How come you like Venus the least?? ;)

Haute
Jul 14th, 2005, 05:17 AM
Lindsay and Venus - especially their matches lately. They may not be consistently playing the best tennis against each other, but when they do (that 25-stroke rally at Wimbly anyone?) it's amazing. Plus, the tension and drama of the matches are always great too. Not only is their h2h very close right now, their matches are very close as well, usually coming down to who plays the tight points best. I still think that the Stanford Final last year was one of the best matches I've seen on the women's tour in the longest time. :) What was the score? Something like 7-5, 6-7, 7-5 to Lindsay? Can't ask for a closer match than that (other than all sets as TBs lol). :)

manu32
Jul 14th, 2005, 10:51 AM
jen serena

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 14th, 2005, 02:26 PM
...I also think that Serena and Momo is an interesting rivalry, even though Serena has ted their encounters there is definently a “bite” there.
How could I forget about those two? Last year they played two of the most exciting matches all season long- and while Serena heavily dominates this rivalry often times it's comes down to a third set. It's great when these two play because you get to see the difference in sheer will and belief and those two assets are usually what determines the outcome- no surprise Serena has only lost to MoMo once. Maybe people are reluctant to call it a rivalry because of the H2H, but I surely consider it one.