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bovina_forever
Jul 12th, 2005, 08:21 PM
How many serve and volleyer are left in the game now a days, the only on i know of that is still active is Lisa Raymond any others?

TF Chipmunk
Jul 12th, 2005, 08:24 PM
Martina Navratilova is one that does it ALL THE TIME.

Some others that integrate it into their game a lot:
Amelie Mauresmo (did that a lot against Lindsay at Wimbledon SF)
Nadia Petrova
Justine Henin-Hardenne
many more, can't think of them right now though

Pengwin
Jul 12th, 2005, 08:27 PM
Cara Black

Berlin_Calling
Jul 12th, 2005, 08:28 PM
Daja Bedanova used to a lot.

tennislover
Jul 12th, 2005, 08:32 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: to that heroic dying species.....

Jippo McScally
Jul 12th, 2005, 08:56 PM
Roberta Vinci

Pengwin
Jul 12th, 2005, 08:57 PM
Amanda Janes

cartmancop
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:12 PM
Molik does it too, right?

Pengwin
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:42 PM
Navratilova's going to open up a serve-volley academy when she retires :bounce:

Grachka
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:43 PM
Most people don't serve & volley on slower surfaces at all, but on faster surfaces a few do it:

Selima Sfar, Carly Gullickson, Amanda Janes, Lisa Raymond....erm....

The last ones standing!

Grachka
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:46 PM
I like the sound of Navratilova's academy, I want some variety goddammit! :p

Thats if she ever decides to retire :angel:

Pengwin
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:46 PM
The last ones standing!

Let's work back in time :p

petey_pan
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:06 PM
Stosur does it quite a bit on grass..... occasionally on hard court aswell. She only does it on her first serve though, she would be better doing it on her second serve which kicks up very high and would have more time to set up for the volley

ZAK
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:13 PM
Lisa Raymond is not a serve and volleyer, and Justine hardly ever does it.

Amelie does but only on grass

Mattographer
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:45 AM
Nathalie Tauziat was the last true serve and volleyer player! :bigcry:

Derek.
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:02 AM
Roberta Vinci

TF Chipmunk
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:51 AM
Nathalie Tauziat was the last true serve and volleyer player! :bigcry:
That distinction would have to go to Martina since she's not fully retired yet. GOSH sometimes I wish she would just stay back!! It's so annoying seeing her serve and volley when she gets passed like 80% of the time :mad::fiery:

Prizeidiot
Jul 13th, 2005, 07:16 AM
Molik does it too, right?
She used to quite a bit actually... but then power tennis came along, so she reworked her ground game, and now stays back most of the time unfortunately, though she still volleys alright.

Vinci, Black, Raymond, Navratilova come to mind. Mauresmo and Henin-Hardenne like to serve volley, but aren't pure serve volleyers. Hantuchova tries a bit as well.

It'd be nice to see a really effective serve volleyer though. Maybe Alicia come Wimbledon time next year if she's fit enough.

Experimentee
Jul 14th, 2005, 04:44 PM
Mauresmo at Wimbledon was the first time in a long tme I've seen a top player serve and volley a lot. Pretty much no one else does it even 50% of the time except for the players mentioned.

alfajeffster
Jul 14th, 2005, 04:47 PM
Navratilova's going to open up a serve-volley academy when she retires :bounce:

Unfortunately, it'll never fly- the consultant fees alone doom such an effort.:lol: (sorry, couldn't resist a light jab at Team Navratilova)!

VeeDaQueen
Jul 14th, 2005, 05:19 PM
it's a shame that the taller girls don't s&v. venus has great potential at the net, and davenport is good aswell.

forever_rafter
Jul 14th, 2005, 06:58 PM
Eleni Daniilidou, especially on grass. :hearts:

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 14th, 2005, 07:23 PM
That distinction would have to go to Martina since she's not fully retired yet. GOSH sometimes I wish she would just stay back!! It's so annoying seeing her serve and volley when she gets passed like 80% of the time :mad::fiery:
yeah that's about right, I'd say Hingis passed Navrat about 8 out of the 10 times she ventured to the net and I loved every second... Love watchin' Navrat play but I've never been a fan- that kind of game plan is a bit dated.

The serve & volley tactic can't be employed like it was in the "old" days cuz there's too much power and the baseline player has the advantage in that match-up. The best player is the kind of player that can be opportunistic and follow up their big shots and finish off points at the net. JuJu, Venus, MoMo, and even Lindsay are really good at doing this. In today's world that what a "complete" player does and I think that along with pure baseline play will continue to be the trend from here on out...

abayen
Jul 14th, 2005, 07:33 PM
You guys seem to forget that Martina was beating players like Graf and Seles (both fairly powerful players) even when she was 36-37. You guys forget that Sampras was successful against the baseliners for a long time.

If a player possesses a good serve, I don't see why he or she should be afraid to volley after a good serve. Yes, they will get passed a few times but so what? They can also possibly lose rallies from the baseline.

Again, no one is asking them to come to the net everytime when they are not serving or when they served poorly. Even Martina didn't use to do so, when she was at her peak. You approach the net on the right shot and you end it with a volley.

yeah that's about right, I'd say Hingis passed Navrat about 8 out of the 10 times she ventured to the net and I loved every second... Love watchin' Navrat play but I've never been a fan- that kind of game plan is a bit dated.

The serve & volley tactic can't be employed like it was in the "old" days cuz there's too much power and the baseline player has the advantage in that match-up. The best player is the kind of player that can be opportunistic and follow up their big shots and finish off points at the net. JuJu, Venus, MoMo, and even Lindsay are really good at doing this. In today's world that what a "complete" player does and I think that along with pure baseline play will continue to be the trend from here on out...

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 14th, 2005, 07:42 PM
You guys seem to forget that Martina was beating players like Graf and Seles (both fairly powerful players) even when she was 36-37. You guys forget that Sampras was successful against the baseliners for a long time.

If a player possesses a good serve, I don't see why he or she should be afraid to volley after a good serve. Yes, they will get passed a few times but so what? They can also possibly lose rallies from the baseline.

Again, no one is asking them to come to the net everytime when they are not serving or when they served poorly. Even Martina didn't use to do so, when she was at her peak. You approach the net on the right shot and you end it with a volley.
I have a tape where Billie Jean King was saying that if she were playing with all the power players of today she would have to retool her game. She went onto say something to the effect that the serve & volley is still a good tactic, but that a pure serve & volleyer probably wouldn't do to well in todays game... and I agree with her.

SzavayFi
Jul 14th, 2005, 07:47 PM
As other kinda people on this board has already stated for meh. VINCI! :)

alfajeffster
Jul 14th, 2005, 08:41 PM
I have a tape where Billie Jean King was saying that if she were playing with all the power players of today she would have to retool her game. She went onto say something to the effect that the serve & volley is still a good tactic, but that a pure serve & volleyer probably wouldn't do to well in todays game... and I agree with her.

Billie Jean King is one of the only tennis players I can actually call a hero of mine, as I've always tried to focus on the game, and never any one player. She transcends the player because of what she has done and continues to do for the game (and its broader range of influences, especially for women). She was and is one of the great tacticians of our sport. One important thing to note is her formative years of training and building her tennis game in the early 60s. She was always a natural net player, even back in the late 50s when she came up through the public parks system in Long Beach. Her serve-and-volley style was sharpened and nurtured by an Aussie named Merv Rose, and right throughout her career (even back in Long Beach) she sought help with developing her game around outstanding volleying skills. Many people today don't realize that she was every bit as good (if not better) a volleyer than Martina Navratilova, whom she ended up coaching.

Contrast that with the atmosphere, tactics, and training methods that Graf, Seles, Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Justine, and any of the top players of the past 20 years, and you see how a serve-and-volley player can indeed be successful in todays game. Todays players weren't taught to play this way. Most of them from their first introduction to tennis as children were given oversized racquets and semi or extreme grips and taught to cover the ball from the baseline ala Bollettieri and Maci camp blueprints. A few places like the then Czechoslovakia still taught the classic style (size of racquet doesn't matter- in fact it helps the serve and the volley).

I am VERY happy that the one-handed backhand is experiencing a rennaisance of sorts, because it only means that the opportunity for a gifted junior girl to learn how to serve-and-volley well is just around the corner! Tennis wins as soon as the first girl makes a breakthrough!:bounce:

Paldias
Jul 14th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Rubin does it a lot

Andy.
Jul 15th, 2005, 09:16 AM
Roberta Vinci is the only one but Sam Stosur does it now on grass and a little on hardcourt.

andrewbroad
Aug 12th, 2005, 01:28 AM
Daniela Hantuchová used to serve and volley all the time in juniors. It's much harder to do it in women's tennis because the returns-of-serve and passing-shots are much more powerful.

Iroda Tulyaganova serves and volleys on grass - I saw her at Eastbourne 2002. She's a remarkably versatile player.

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New
Aug 12th, 2005, 02:42 AM
Els Callens...

Roberta Vinci!!!:hearts: :kiss: