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furrykitten
Jul 12th, 2005, 02:56 PM
I was watching Mirza's game at Wimbledon recently and they put a stat on the screen after she'd passed her oponent that the shot was 97mph. The next day I was watching a mens game between 2 of the top mens players and the one did a passing shot and they showed the speed as 87mph.
This got me thinking that Mirza must have one of the hardest and fastest ground strokes in the game, there is huge potential there for her.

Oneofakind0490
Jul 12th, 2005, 02:59 PM
She can smack at the ball. But that will make a lot of errors and her serve and movement really is making her lose matches.

*roddicksinme*
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:02 PM
she seemed to have a pretty good serve when i saw her at a challenger last year

Shonami Slam
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:42 PM
she's the hype-girl of the year.
it seemed as though AO, hyderabad and the w`in over kuzzy ment she would be top30 in no time.
couldn't get it going since.
i hope she get's it together for the rest of the year.

Oneofakind0490
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:46 PM
She has been injured most of the year. She came back I think the week before Wimbledon.
But her serve can be very good. She has a lot of power on it but not a lot of variety and her second serve isn't that good.

skanky~skanketta
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:50 PM
she had a bad ankle injury and yet she won hyderabad on it. on the clay injuries get worse if u play on it. and it's not like she slouched at wimbledon. she did push sveta to 3 tight sets. and she had set points in the first.

TF Chipmunk
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Passing shots can vary in speed depending on where they're hitting them....I think if a person were to smack a passing shot down the line, it would go faster than if it was going short and crosscourt as that requires more angle than power. Also, if the person's approach shot was more powerful, then she could've used that pace and added a little extra more muscle and voila, 97 MPH.

Prizeidiot
Jul 13th, 2005, 06:40 AM
Passing shots can vary in speed depending on where they're hitting them....I think if a person were to smack a passing shot down the line, it would go faster than if it was going short and crosscourt as that requires more angle than power. Also, if the person's approach shot was more powerful, then she could've used that pace and added a little extra more muscle and voila, 97 MPH.
True... and you have to look at the situation. If the person moving to the net has hit a good approach and has closed in, you can't hit hard and flat, or they'll punch it away if they get a racket on it. Sometimes you've just got to take the pace off, add topspin, and dip it in, so that in the chance the pick it, you can yourself for the next pass.

But I don't think that's the point of this thread. Yes, Sania hits the ball bloody hard :p She has potential. When she beat Svetlana earlier this year, she was outhitting her. And I don't think Svetlana loses like that too often. I think she has a weakness in her movement though (I haven't seen too much of her, so i'm just going with what she has said about her own game)

tennisrox
Jul 13th, 2005, 07:34 AM
I saw that stat too(she hit one at 98mph too :worship: ).Sania is probably the biggest hitter in women's tennis(heck she can outhit most of the men too!Even Safin and A-rod from what i saw of those stats!) and was averaging 79mph for her groundstrokes in that match so wherever she is hitting from you can bet she'll rip the cover off the ball.But she also hits great angles and her forehand esp is tough to read.Her power comes from her timing and her amazing racket head speed,not from muscle.She definitely has huge potential.I think she makes a lot of UE's because she's really agressive and impatient at the moment.She'll cool off once she's a bit older.
I though her lateral movement was fairly good actually(muuch better than at the beginning of the year),but her forward movement needs to improve.Her main weakness is her second serve.Her first is good and pretty powerful,but her second lacks variety.She is starting to show some improvement in that dept however.

tyk101
Jul 13th, 2005, 09:56 AM
she's a big hitter, her serve is a bit edgy~ and her movement looks slightly clumsy.. but when in position, she gives the ball a good whack.

Maryamator
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:24 AM
i went to all matches at dubai open and i saw her she played pretty good especially against kuznetsova i and her serves and groundstrokes are pretty good

controlfreak
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:27 PM
I don't like her. There are too many up-and-coming players these days; I wish the game would stagnate a bit.

tennisrox
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:30 PM
Why don't you like her just because there are a lot of up and coming players??That seems a little irrelevant to me.I think the more the merrier.Its the reason why womens tennis is so much more exciting than the mens side nowadays (roger roger roger....).I'm glad the tourneys are unpredictable because of all the young guns like Ivanovic,Sesil,Makiri,Nicole and the rest.The game shouldn't stagnate.

Paialii
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:33 PM
Sounds like she must hit the ball pretty flat.

The men all hit with heavy spin, which is why the speed isn't as high in MPH, however those balls are just as hard if not harder to return than the flat hard-hit ball. Believe me when I say that Roddick, Safin or any top male player (or even top 100 mens player) would just hit Mirza off the court. ;)

Experimentee
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:35 PM
Up and coming players are good for the game, they keep everyone on their toes, and upsets can happen at any time.

tennisrox
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Of course they would:).Serena got whacked of court by a guy ranked 250 (6-0 i think)Men just play different kinds of shots.But Sania can get a lot of spin on the ball when she likes from what i've seen,esp her forehand.She just prefers to hit flat i guess.

Dominic
Jul 13th, 2005, 07:54 PM
Of course they would:).Serena got whacked of court by a guy ranked 250 (6-0 i think)Men just play different kinds of shots.But Sania can get a lot of spin on the ball when she likes from what i've seen,esp her forehand.She just prefers to hit flat i guess.
Actually her and Venus played against a guy ranked 200 5 or 6 years ago while they were no where near as good as they were at their peak and rena lost 6-1 and venus 6-2 so it is official that you are wrong. And Im sorry but a 98mph shot is way way harder to return than a 79mph no matter how much topspin you can manage to put on it. I actually think flat shots are harder to return than topspin cause they skid of the court. they tend to slide instead of bounce.

tennisrox
Jul 14th, 2005, 03:56 AM
I agree with that.Flat hard shots are really tough to return because they skid.I remember sveta being unable to handle some of her backhands because of the sheer pace and lack of bounce.Mirza has this terrific wrist action on the FH when she hits the ball into the corners and basically kills the bounce of the ball so it barely rises off the ground.Even if you are in position to recieve that you wouldn't be able to return it.Even a guy would find that tough to handle at 98MPH.And you can barely see the ball its so fast!I'm not quite sure how she does that.Shots with vicious topspin are difficult to handle but you at least have time to get in position.But i still say that although some of the women are more powerful than a lot of men,the men will win every time because of their superior reaction time.Even not counting the serve.
What was the name of the guy who played venus and serena??

dansnewbeg
Jul 14th, 2005, 05:32 AM
Karsten Braasch was the guy who beat Venus/Serena back in 1998.

Prizeidiot
Jul 14th, 2005, 08:07 AM
Actually her and Venus played against a guy ranked 200 5 or 6 years ago while they were no where near as good as they were at their peak and rena lost 6-1 and venus 6-2 so it is official that you are wrong. And Im sorry but a 98mph shot is way way harder to return than a 79mph no matter how much topspin you can manage to put on it. I actually think flat shots are harder to return than topspin cause they skid of the court. they tend to slide instead of bounce.
If we're talking passing shots, like in this thread... I reckon 79mph dipping at your feet is much harder to deal with than 98mph flat and above waist high, when you're at the net. At 98mph, you get your racket on the ball, you'll punch it away, no worries.

But yeah, I do agree with you in regards to being at the back of the court. Unless we're talking Nadal-like topspin, which would be a shit to deal with at 30mph, let alone 79