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Lady
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:01 PM
+ Few words on Sharapova

– Сборная США перед самым матчем внесла изменения в состав. Против вас выпустили Крейбас, хотя планировалось, что сыграет Вашингтон. Это как-то сказалось, на вашей игре?
– Честно говоря, мне было совершенно без разницы, кто находится на противоположной стороне корта. Начнем с того, что я вообще не планировала играть сегодня. Но Елена Дементьева неожиданно уступила Винус Уильямс и мне пришлось выходить на корт. А мне уже было не до анализа своей соперницы.

– Винус Уильямс сегодня сказала, что подпитывалась некой энергией, которую не могла найти вчера. А у вас есть свои секреты настраиваться на матч? Поделитесь ими.
– Я бы не стала слишком серьезно относиться к словам Уильямс. Ее неприятно кольнуло то, что она уступила вчера. И перед второй встречей в ней проснулось ее личное Ŧяŧ. Мол, не может Винус проиграть две встречи подряд. А у меня нет никаких секретов. Все индивидуально. Я по-разному настраиваюсь на ту или иную встречу.

– Уже известно, что в финале Кубка Федераций вы сыграете со сборной Франции. Как вы считаете, нужно ли усилить сборную перед решающими матчами? Может быть, стоит привлечь Марию Шарапову, чтобы второй раз выиграть турнир?
– Шарапову? Нет, нам хватит Дементьевой.

Translation:

- USA team changed your opponent at the last minute. Did that influence you in any way?

Anastasiya: Honestly, I didn't care who is on the other side of the net. Actually I didn't even plan to play today. But Elena Dementieva unexpectetly lost to Venus Williams, and I had to come on court. I didn't care to analyze my opponent at that time.

- Venus Willians said today that she found some energy that she was lacking yesterday. Do you have any secrets how you get ready to the specific match?

Nastya: I would't treat Venus' words too seriously. She was unplesantly hurt that she lost yestarday. Her presonal "I" woke up, that is Venus just can't lose 2 matches in a row. (that what Venus thinks). I don't have any secrets. Everything is individual.

- It's known that you'll play France in the final. Do you think we should made the team stronger before that? Maybe invite Sharapova to win the Cup for the 2nd time?

Nastya: Sharapova? No, Dementieva will be enough for us!

;)

Knizzle
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:03 PM
``It was another Williams today,'' Dementieva said. ``She was playing different tennis today.''

Myskina was glad she didn't have to face Williams on Sunday.

``I think she was really hurt that she lost to me,'' Myskina said. ``Her ego was hurt and she really wanted to give a point to her team. That's why she found extra motivation.''

Vamos Feńa
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Nastya: Sharapova? No, Dementieva will be enough for us!

;)

Thanks Nastya :D :D :worship: :worship:

deja_entendu
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:03 PM
:haha: :rolls: :hearts: bitch is nastya!

Stamp Paid
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:03 PM
lmfao @ nasty :kiss:

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:04 PM
Nastya ;) :hug: go girl

Lady
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:04 PM
That was in the press, but they person who was at the press-conference said that the last question sounded like that in real life:

It's known that you'll play France in the final. Do you think we should made the team stronger before that? Maybe invite Kuznetsova, Petrova, Sharapova to win the Cup for the 2nd time?

Nastya: No, Dementieva will be enough! :)

Knizzle
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:05 PM
lmfao @ nasty :kiss:

LMAO @ your sig. Someone should make one about Venus in 2000.

.ivy.
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:13 PM
- It's known that you'll play France in the final. Do you think we should made the team stronger before that? Maybe invite Sharapova to win the Cup for the 2nd time?

Nastya: Sharapova? No, Dementieva will be enough for us!

;)

:lol: Maybe that's why you can't spell Nastya without the Nasty. She's so right. :)

manu32
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:17 PM
ok but maybe kuznetsova???

Vamos Feńa
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:20 PM
Lena has good H2H with Momo and Mary so she could stay ;)

HAIL-VENUS
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Damn, sounds to me like some unpleasantries were passed after yesterday's match. Mmmm, I want more juicy details.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Myskina is a bitch. No question about it. Her attitude though will make a threat during the summer season. She surely has Lindsay's number. A win against her might really up her confidence.

Wiggly
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:32 PM
ok but maybe kuznetsova???

She choke last year in her 2 matches :rolleyes:

manu32
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:47 PM
i like myskina but when she plays for russia (team's captain real???) she seemed to be another person.....

SJW
Jul 10th, 2005, 07:49 PM
i like myskina but when she plays for russia (team's captain real???) she seemed to be another person.....
same.
looks like all of my faves have to be taken with a pinch of salt ;)

_LuCaS_
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:12 PM
Gotta love her :kiss: :hug:

AliBoss
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:14 PM
I'm angry that Lena lost to Venus. I don't know what's the matter with her, at the same time she plays beautifully she makes terrible mistakes. :fiery:

Slumpsova
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:18 PM
``It was another Williams today,'' Dementieva said. ``She was playing different tennis today.''

Myskina was glad she didn't have to face Williams on Sunday.

``I think she was really hurt that she lost to me,'' Myskina said. ``Her ego was hurt and she really wanted to give a point to her team. That's why she found extra motivation.''

Lena :worship:
Natsya :rolleyes:

a bitch is still a bitch :o

selking
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:20 PM
haha the bitch wins a few matches in a row and thinks she can talk like that. Can't wait for reality check aka summer hardcourts

Brooks.
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:22 PM
I love how Myskina goes from........"feel sorry for me.....everything in my life is so terrible right now" to "i am a bitch....and i cant believe dementieva didnt beat the wimbledon champion" in a matter of like 2 weeks :rolleyes: ..........i suggest you let your tennis do the talking from now on honey ;)

Brooks.
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:23 PM
haha the bitch wins a few matches in a row and thinks she can talk like that. Can't wait for reality check aka summer hardcourts

LMAO! :lol: :lol:

Knizzle
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:23 PM
I love how Myskina goes from........"feel sorry for me.....everything in my life is so terrible right now" to "i am a bitch....and i cant believe dementieva didnt beat the wimbledon champion" in a matter of like 2 weeks :rolleyes: ..........i suggest you let your tennis do the talking from now on honey ;)

She'll see Venus again, hopefully sometime soon.

Brooks.
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:52 PM
A.Myskina: I didn't exp... Jul 10th, 2005 04:45 PM michelle11 do you know what cancer means?there are things in life much more important than tennis.also you will learn it someday

um yes michelle11 i know what cancer is :rolleyes: .......so basically your saying its ok to be a bitch and make comments about other people just so long as your mom has cancer........yea ok :rolleyes: :tape:

Larrybidd
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:53 PM
- Venus Willians said today that she found some energy that she was lacking yesterday. Do you have any secrets how you get ready to the specific match?

Nastya: I would't treat Venus' words too seriously. She was unplesantly hurt that she lost yestarday. Her presonal "I" woke up, that is Venus just can't lose 2 matches in a row. (that what Venus thinks). I don't have any secrets. Everything is individual.

;)
That girl certainly has a attitude (which is not a crime in my book). It makes things interesting. I never have a problem with players being honest about how they feel in a press conference, as long as they stick to tennis related topics. Talk is cheap however, and Nastya's got a bigger mouth than she's got game, i'm afraid. She's got the chance to prove otherwise on American hardcourts.

jimbo mack
Jul 10th, 2005, 08:57 PM
i don't think what she said was that bitchy...i've seen worse many times

i like it that she speaks her mind. honesty is the best policy and all that

TF Chipmunk
Jul 10th, 2005, 09:01 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, Nastya is back! Wow those were some angry words :hearts:

spartanfan
Jul 10th, 2005, 09:25 PM
Sadly, the win over Venus, the Wimbledon champ, is all that Mystinka has to show for her year so far. Where was all this bravado during the FO, when the pressure was really on and she was suppose to step up and defend her title. Now speak on that Mystinka!

victory1
Jul 10th, 2005, 09:45 PM
I'm sure Venus is not worried about Myskina who happens to make it to 1 slam finals now she's talking smack about a person how made it to 11 slam finals anf happen to win 5 of them.

Diesel
Jul 10th, 2005, 09:58 PM
Sadly, the win over Venus, the Wimbledon champ, is all that Mystinka has to show for her year so far. Where was all this bravado during the FO, when the pressure was really on and she was suppose to step up and defend her title. Now speak on that Mystinka!


Agreed.

Maria Croft
Jul 10th, 2005, 10:03 PM
I can't believe her, she wins one important match and there she is again with her big mouth, but I guess that was never really gone in the first place :lol:

hablo
Jul 10th, 2005, 10:03 PM
wow. the nastya haters are hilarious. she must be doing something right to attract them vultures :haha:

next fed cup, go France go :devil:

( I still like you nastya and lena but my loyalties remain : go Momo :angel: )

selking
Jul 10th, 2005, 10:12 PM
found this one online. I have to say i agree

JCF
Jul 10th, 2005, 10:14 PM
One of the many reasons i love myskina.

Go Nastya :hearts:

_LuCaS_
Jul 10th, 2005, 10:34 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:
Trolls storming in already

ptkten
Jul 10th, 2005, 11:18 PM
I'm a Venus fan, and I find Nastya hilarious :lol:

...also, what did she say that was that bad, she said the reason she didn't think Venus would play well because it's difficult to play after winning a major, this just doesn't tell everything she said.

maccardel
Jul 10th, 2005, 11:20 PM
"Her ego was hurt?" So what was hurting Evilena when she didn't defend her Grand Slam? I guess her ass must have been hurting from watching Maria win her slam after Evilena win hers but yet Maria is the one challenging for number one less than a year later.

What was hurting all that time before her "comeback" if that is what you want to call it, I mean three, what four matches in a row and suddenly the bitch is a know it all.

Wow, what would happen if she had won four matches in a row? I think she would be out there commentating the matches while she is playing......to think you are playing host to what is probably the most accomplished country in tennis and you make stupid comments like that?

I think she is hating cos the bitch just couldn't call her comeback a comeback. Whateva, evilena, should just worry about herself and her miniature comeback. I don't know if she knew this, but the days long after her ass was shown the door at Wimbledon, Venus was still playing and on top of that, she had a ball to attend to. How much partying can she do.....and still hop on a plane, long after Myskina been there already(like two, what three days in advance) and still get used to living out of a suitcase, while Evilena sits at home with family and friends eating whatever they eat when they get together in Moscow. Yet Venus, who have to delay her grand slam celebration with family back home, still shows up. Yet Venus who just played two strenous weeks on grass, and now have to play on clay( the tennis calendar backwards, mind you) shows up and still manage to take Evilena to three sets.......go figure. Why should Venus be upset she lost?

I think that Evilena should be ashamed to have all that time to prepare and yet the bitch still deliver a three setter. I think Evilena, who is on her home turf and with family around, should be ashamed of herself.

Hooray, she won a damn match. I am happy for her, she was just waiting for that one; a win, a big win to come, and it came. Now What?

Nothing. When she waits up tomorrow, she will look on her mantlepiece and see what? The head of Venus Williams? No, what she would see is an empty space where her Roland Garros or other grand slam should be for 2005. The nerve of some people.

Instead of saying she is grateful for the win, especially against someone of her caliber, she goes out and makes it seem as if she went out knowing she was going to win. I think she is surprised she won. She knew she was going to get trampled, but she is suddenly the rejuvenated player with a hot streak. One? Ok, well you are not number one and it was only one match.

Girl please!!! In the words of Serena Williams: Some players make a name for themselvese by beating me [sic]

Volcana
Jul 10th, 2005, 11:25 PM
I'm happy Myskina is loyal to Dementieva. As for her attitude about Venus, I think it's fine. I'm sure it doesn't bother Venus.

hotandspicey
Jul 10th, 2005, 11:25 PM
haha the bitch wins a few matches in a row and thinks she can talk like that. Can't wait for reality check aka summer hardcourtsIt's amazing how much smack she talk's when it comes to Fed cup. She's feeling her oats now that everyone's done sympathizing with her. :tape: Let's see if we hear that in the next few weeks.:lol:

RVD
Jul 10th, 2005, 11:41 PM
"Her ego was hurt?" So what was hurting Evilena when she didn't defend her Grand Slam? I guess her ass must have been hurting from watching Maria win her slam after Evilena win hers but yet Maria is the one challenging for number one less than a year later.

What was hurting all that time before her "comeback" if that is what you want to call it, I mean three, what four matches in a row and suddenly the bitch is a know it all.

Wow, what would happen if she had won four matches in a row? I think she would be out there commentating the matches while she is playing......to think you are playing host to what is probably the most accomplished country in tennis and you make stupid comments like that?

I think she is hating cos the bitch just couldn't call her comeback a comeback. Whateva, evilena, should just worry about herself and her miniature comeback. I don't know if she knew this, but the days long after her ass was shown the door at Wimbledon, Venus was still playing and on top of that, she had a ball to attend to. How much partying can she do.....and still hop on a plane, long after Myskina been there already(like two, what three days in advance) and still get used to living out of a suitcase, while Evilena sits at home with family and friends eating whatever they eat when they get together in Moscow. Yet Venus, who have to delay her grand slam celebration with family back home, still shows up. Yet Venus who just played two strenous weeks on grass, and now have to play on clay( the tennis calendar backwards, mind you) shows up and still manage to take Evilena to three sets.......go figure. Why should Venus be upset she lost?

I think that Evilena should be ashamed to have all that time to prepare and yet the bitch still deliver a three setter. I think Evilena, who is on her home turf and with family around, should be ashamed of herself.

Hooray, she won a damn match. I am happy for her, she was just waiting for that one; a win, a big win to come, and it came. Now What?

Nothing. When she waits up tomorrow, she will look on her mantlepiece and see what? The head of Venus Williams? No, what she would see is an empty space where her Roland Garros or other grand slam should be for 2005. The nerve of some people.

Instead of saying she is grateful for the win, especially against someone of her caliber, she goes out and makes it seem as if she went out knowing she was going to win. I think she is surprised she won. She knew she was going to get trampled, but she is suddenly the rejuvenated player with a hot streak. One? Ok, well you are not number one and it was only one match.

Girl please!!! In the words of Serena Williams: Some players make a name for themselves by beating me [sic]:haha: :yeah:

I get the feeling that Venus and Myskina just may provide us fans with some nice pyrotechnics come hard court season. And given that both are healthy this year, it should be quite a display of (different) styles at work.
WHAT A TREAT!! :bounce:

ezekiel
Jul 10th, 2005, 11:46 PM
Nastya :retard:
Bigger mouth than your current form/results is never good in this sport but I am sure you'll find that soon enough :devil:

Rtael
Jul 10th, 2005, 11:47 PM
"Her ego was hurt?" So what was hurting Evilena when she didn't defend her Grand Slam? I guess her ass must have been hurting from watching Maria win her slam after Evilena win hers but yet Maria is the one challenging for number one less than a year later.

What was hurting all that time before her "comeback" if that is what you want to call it, I mean three, what four matches in a row and suddenly the bitch is a know it all.

Wow, what would happen if she had won four matches in a row? I think she would be out there commentating the matches while she is playing......to think you are playing host to what is probably the most accomplished country in tennis and you make stupid comments like that?

I think she is hating cos the bitch just couldn't call her comeback a comeback. Whateva, evilena, should just worry about herself and her miniature comeback. I don't know if she knew this, but the days long after her ass was shown the door at Wimbledon, Venus was still playing and on top of that, she had a ball to attend to. How much partying can she do.....and still hop on a plane, long after Myskina been there already(like two, what three days in advance) and still get used to living out of a suitcase, while Evilena sits at home with family and friends eating whatever they eat when they get together in Moscow. Yet Venus, who have to delay her grand slam celebration with family back home, still shows up. Yet Venus who just played two strenous weeks on grass, and now have to play on clay( the tennis calendar backwards, mind you) shows up and still manage to take Evilena to three sets.......go figure. Why should Venus be upset she lost?

I think that Evilena should be ashamed to have all that time to prepare and yet the bitch still deliver a three setter. I think Evilena, who is on her home turf and with family around, should be ashamed of herself.

Hooray, she won a damn match. I am happy for her, she was just waiting for that one; a win, a big win to come, and it came. Now What?

Nothing. When she waits up tomorrow, she will look on her mantlepiece and see what? The head of Venus Williams? No, what she would see is an empty space where her Roland Garros or other grand slam should be for 2005. The nerve of some people.

Instead of saying she is grateful for the win, especially against someone of her caliber, she goes out and makes it seem as if she went out knowing she was going to win. I think she is surprised she won. She knew she was going to get trampled, but she is suddenly the rejuvenated player with a hot streak. One? Ok, well you are not number one and it was only one match.

Girl please!!! In the words of Serena Williams: Some players make a name for themselvese by beating me [sic]


:retard: Your post didn't even make sense.

volta
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:10 AM
haha the bitch wins a few matches in a row and thinks she can talk like that. Can't wait for reality check aka summer hardcourts
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

No Name Face
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:21 AM
i thought it was funny...and i'm a venus fan!

Martian Willow
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:25 AM
"Her ego was hurt?" So what was hurting Evilena when she didn't defend her Grand Slam? I guess her ass must have been hurting from watching Maria win her slam after Evilena win hers but yet Maria is the one challenging for number one less than a year later.

What was hurting all that time before her "comeback" if that is what you want to call it, I mean three, what four matches in a row and suddenly the bitch is a know it all.

Wow, what would happen if she had won four matches in a row? I think she would be out there commentating the matches while she is playing......to think you are playing host to what is probably the most accomplished country in tennis and you make stupid comments like that?

I think she is hating cos the bitch just couldn't call her comeback a comeback. Whateva, evilena, should just worry about herself and her miniature comeback. I don't know if she knew this, but the days long after her ass was shown the door at Wimbledon, Venus was still playing and on top of that, she had a ball to attend to. How much partying can she do.....and still hop on a plane, long after Myskina been there already(like two, what three days in advance) and still get used to living out of a suitcase, while Evilena sits at home with family and friends eating whatever they eat when they get together in Moscow. Yet Venus, who have to delay her grand slam celebration with family back home, still shows up. Yet Venus who just played two strenous weeks on grass, and now have to play on clay( the tennis calendar backwards, mind you) shows up and still manage to take Evilena to three sets.......go figure. Why should Venus be upset she lost?

I think that Evilena should be ashamed to have all that time to prepare and yet the bitch still deliver a three setter. I think Evilena, who is on her home turf and with family around, should be ashamed of herself.

Hooray, she won a damn match. I am happy for her, she was just waiting for that one; a win, a big win to come, and it came. Now What?

Nothing. When she waits up tomorrow, she will look on her mantlepiece and see what? The head of Venus Williams? No, what she would see is an empty space where her Roland Garros or other grand slam should be for 2005. The nerve of some people.

Instead of saying she is grateful for the win, especially against someone of her caliber, she goes out and makes it seem as if she went out knowing she was going to win. I think she is surprised she won. She knew she was going to get trampled, but she is suddenly the rejuvenated player with a hot streak. One? Ok, well you are not number one and it was only one match.

Girl please!!! In the words of Serena Williams: Some players make a name for themselvese by beating me [sic]

Somebody is hurt, that's for sure.

@m@nd@
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Nastya: Sharapova? No, Dementieva will be enough for us!

;)

aww....what a nice friend :worship: :yeah:

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:36 AM
"Her ego was hurt?" So what was hurting Evilena when she didn't defend her Grand Slam? I guess her ass must have been hurting from watching Maria win her slam after Evilena win hers but yet Maria is the one challenging for number one less than a year later.

What was hurting all that time before her "comeback" if that is what you want to call it, I mean three, what four matches in a row and suddenly the bitch is a know it all.

Wow, what would happen if she had won four matches in a row? I think she would be out there commentating the matches while she is playing......to think you are playing host to what is probably the most accomplished country in tennis and you make stupid comments like that?

I think she is hating cos the bitch just couldn't call her comeback a comeback. Whateva, evilena, should just worry about herself and her miniature comeback. I don't know if she knew this, but the days long after her ass was shown the door at Wimbledon, Venus was still playing and on top of that, she had a ball to attend to. How much partying can she do.....and still hop on a plane, long after Myskina been there already(like two, what three days in advance) and still get used to living out of a suitcase, while Evilena sits at home with family and friends eating whatever they eat when they get together in Moscow. Yet Venus, who have to delay her grand slam celebration with family back home, still shows up. Yet Venus who just played two strenous weeks on grass, and now have to play on clay( the tennis calendar backwards, mind you) shows up and still manage to take Evilena to three sets.......go figure. Why should Venus be upset she lost?

I think that Evilena should be ashamed to have all that time to prepare and yet the bitch still deliver a three setter. I think Evilena, who is on her home turf and with family around, should be ashamed of herself.

Hooray, she won a damn match. I am happy for her, she was just waiting for that one; a win, a big win to come, and it came. Now What?

Nothing. When she waits up tomorrow, she will look on her mantlepiece and see what? The head of Venus Williams? No, what she would see is an empty space where her Roland Garros or other grand slam should be for 2005. The nerve of some people.

Instead of saying she is grateful for the win, especially against someone of her caliber, she goes out and makes it seem as if she went out knowing she was going to win. I think she is surprised she won. She knew she was going to get trampled, but she is suddenly the rejuvenated player with a hot streak. One? Ok, well you are not number one and it was only one match.

Girl please!!! In the words of Serena Williams: Some players make a name for themselvese by beating me [sic]

HA!:lol: :worship:

fammmmedspin
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:42 AM
:haha: :yeah:

I get the feeling that Venus and Myskina just may provide us fans with some nice pyrotechnics come hard court season. And given that both are healthy this year, it should be quite a display of (different) styles at work.
WHAT A TREAT!! :bounce:

Nastya seems a pretty good judge of the other players. She's just beaten Venus and Elena so she should have had a good idea of Elena's chances against Venus. She summed Venus up very accurately - Venus's for losing excuse was pretty nonsensical given she had a week's rest and that Myskina played 7 matches herself at Wimbledon and Venus spent less time on court and spread her matches over more days.

Obviously she doesn't want Maria on the team and given Maria's record against Momo and Elena's its probably a wise choice anyway.

K-Dog
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:47 AM
Hey Myskina, Venus has done a lot more than you this year!! She also beat you this year. Um, keep it quiet becasue you'll get your ass handed to you on a silver platter by Venus next time on a playable court unlike the court that your team put up!!

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:47 AM
Nastya seems a pretty good judge of the other players. She's just beaten Venus and Elena so she should have had a good idea of Elena's chances against Venus. She summed Venus up very accurately - Venus's for losing excuse was pretty nonsensical given she had a week's rest and that Myskina played 7 matches herself at Wimbledon and Venus spent less time on court and spread her matches over more days.

Obviously she doesn't want Maria on the team and given Maria's record against Momo and Elena's its probably a wise choice anyway.

Venus played 9 matches.

K-Dog
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:49 AM
Nastya seems a pretty good judge of the other players. She's just beaten Venus and Elena so she should have had a good idea of Elena's chances against Venus. She summed Venus up very accurately - Venus's for losing excuse was pretty nonsensical given she had a week's rest and that Myskina played 7 matches herself at Wimbledon and Venus spent less time on court and spread her matches over more days.

Obviously she doesn't want Maria on the team and given Maria's record against Momo and Elena's its probably a wise choice anyway.

Um, Venus played 9 matches!! She played 6 sets of mixed and she won a grand slam in the singles beating the number 1 and 2 players. Not to mention that she hasn't had any time to rest with all the media she had to do.

K-Dog
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:59 AM
Venus played 9 matches.

We must have seen the error at the same time!!

Iheartennis
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:05 AM
People are so stupid. You guys need to learn to search for all the articles and not just pick only snippets of interviews. If eveyone did that you wouldn't be hating that much. Nastya spoke the truth and i bet if you ask Venus williams she'd agree. nastya is saying that venus had to dig more for the win. and she definately said in another article that venus being tired would work to her advantage.

you bitches need to chill. believe it or not nastya's mouth is good for tennis.

Wiggly
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:07 AM
Well, Final will be on clay and Maris is not really great on clay so they can not choose her ;)

Funny how chnaces reacts, one day it's Venus will destroy Myskina, the other day is She lose because she was tired and the 3rd day is Myskina is a bitch...

If Myskina would have lost, nobody would have said she's a bitch and everybody would have aid Venus is back and will be #1 soon :rolleyes:

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:11 AM
Well, Final will be on clay and Maris is not really great on clay so they can not choose her ;)

Funny how chnaces reacts, one day it's Venus will destroy Myskina, the other day is She lose because she was tired and the 3rd day is Myskina is a bitch...

If Myskina would have lost, nobody would have said she's a bitch and everybody would have aid Venus is back and will be #1 soon :rolleyes:

Why would someone say Venus is back and will be #1 soon because she beat MYSKINA?? :haha:

That's the most preposterous thought I've ever heard. I guess half the players on tour should be #1 soon because they've all beaten Myskina too. :lol:

BTW who said Venus would destroy Myskina?? :scratch:

shap_half
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:12 AM
I love Anastasia!!!!!! :bounce:

ivanovic
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:14 AM
Myskina is a bitch. No question about it. Her attitude though will make a threat during the summer season. She surely has Lindsay's number. A win against her might really up her confidence.

myskina rules :worship:
she doesn't give in to the americans, especially the williams sisters.... i think she's a legend. I think myskina was the first player to break the williams dominance and bring out the 'russian revolution'....didn't she once say something like 'I'm not affraid of the william sisters.....or something like that is was just really cool". I think myskina is just so down to earth, just a typical plain Russian girl..... i hope they dont invite sharapova....she's become an arrogant yank. :lol:

K-Dog
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:14 AM
Well, Final will be on clay and Maris is not really great on clay so they can not choose her ;)

Funny how chnaces reacts, one day it's Venus will destroy Myskina, the other day is She lose because she was tired and the 3rd day is Myskina is a bitch...

If Myskina would have lost, nobody would have said she's a bitch and everybody would have aid Venus is back and will be #1 soon :rolleyes:

I think that the census was tht Venus would struggle against Myskina because of fatigue, lack of practice, Myskina's Fed Cup record, and the clay surface. No one thought it would be a walk in the park.

Jeff
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:35 AM
Haha Nastya is so funny :D :D

Yeah I do agree that Nastya acts different during Fed Cup. Her ego really shows through, but I think that is to be expected when you are one of the oldest Russians and the other Russians have tons of respect for you. She has a lot on her shoulders, so pretty much she plays the bad-ass big sister role. One thing is for sure, Myskina doesn't hide what she thinks and she doesn't sugar coat things.

Summer_Snow
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:41 AM
That's why I love nastya hahahaha!!! Go girl!!!

xan
Jul 11th, 2005, 01:42 AM
myskina rules :worship:
she doesn't give in to the americans, especially the williams sisters.... i think she's a legend. I think myskina was the first player to break the williams dominance and bring out the 'russian revolution'
sorry?

Myskina's WTA Head to Head

Against Venus 1-3
Against Serena 0-3
...didn't she once say something like 'I'm not affraid of the william sisters....
No. That was Masha.

brunof
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:01 AM
I love the Willy fans. It's true, Myskina (or anyone but Venus or Serena) start winning and the trolls come out of the woodwork. :devil:

In her audio interview, Myskina voices just how important it is to play well at home, and I assume the same goes for Elena, since both are obviously very tied to Russia, and Moscow in particular.

"Definately, you know. I dunno, I was really focused today, and I was want to win, because I play home.

Myskina also said she knew Venus didn't play her best.

"Venus didn't really play her best, not how she played at Wimbledon. And I understood, because emotional, she was really empty today I guess, but I'm still happy, I brought point to my team, and thats pretty much matter today. I love to play at home, I love our crowd, and they are really great."

She's said it before, playing in Russia is very important to her, and it shows. I don't think you find a player more proud of her country. I also think one must take into context that because Venus was "empty", it makes it difficult to come back, and she maybe didn't expect her to be fired up again against Elena. If anyone understands how difficult it can be to get up for matches sometimes, it's Myskina. ;)

selking
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:08 AM
Its bad for someone like her to have confidence like this. Shes gonna have a roguh time when she starts losing over and over during the summer. You would think that she would realize that she didnt play anywhere near a top USA team but ofcorse being herself she is the same old bitch again

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:09 AM
Its bad for someone like her to have confidence like this. Shes gonna have a roguh time when she starts losing over and over during the summer. You would think that she would realize that she didnt play anywhere near a top USA team but ofcorse being herself she is the same old bitch again Damn, you really don't like her do you??

BoucharDRules
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:55 AM
Translation:

- USA team changed your opponent at the last minute. Did that influence you in any way?

Anastasiya: Honestly, I didn't care who is on the other side of the net. Actually I didn't even plan to play today. But Elena Dementieva unexpectetly lost to Venus Williams, and I had to come on court. I didn't care to analyze my opponent at that time.

- Venus Willians said today that she found some energy that she was lacking yesterday. Do you have any secrets how you get ready to the specific match?

Nastya: I would't treat Venus' words too seriously. She was unplesantly hurt that she lost yestarday. Her presonal "I" woke up, that is Venus just can't lose 2 matches in a row. (that what Venus thinks). I don't have any secrets. Everything is individual.

- It's known that you'll play France in the final. Do you think we should made the team stronger before that? Maybe invite Sharapova to win the Cup for the 2nd time?

Nastya: Sharapova? No, Dementieva will be enough for us!

;)


:bounce: Myskina! She supports her friend Lena! :D

I forgive her now for Wimbledon.

joz
Jul 11th, 2005, 03:15 AM
The odd thing about this thread is... IF YOU read both interviews from Williams and Myskina for yesterday and today... you find the story is pretty much the same from both. Today's Myskina interview was almost as if she saw a transcript of the Venus interview. They basically said the same thing both days and it was in agreement. The only thing different really was the Sharapova comment.

Kipton222
Jul 11th, 2005, 03:26 AM
Are we forgetting that Myskina did reach the Wimbledon quarterfinals just a week ago and made the French Open mixed doubles semifinals? That's pretty decent results. :)

Alize's#1fan
Jul 11th, 2005, 03:54 AM
They could be a lot beter with Sharapova and Kuznetsova instead of Myskina!

ys
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:05 AM
I'm happy Myskina is loyal to Dementieva. As for her attitude about Venus, I think it's fine. I'm sure it doesn't bother Venus.

Myskina is very loyal to everyone ( except for her boyfriends that is ) and fair. Last year she insisted that Dementieva should not be on the team as she wanted to win the cup with the same girls who won early rounds with her.

I think these comments are nothing compared to her 2003 interview with "Justine is a great actress" and stuff..

ys
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:09 AM
Why would someone say Venus is back and will be #1 soon because she beat MYSKINA?? :haha:

Indeed. What would Karatancheva think then.. :)

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:10 AM
Indeed. What would Karatancheva think then.. :)

I have to admit this one went over my head. What do you mean??

Stamp Paid
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:13 AM
did sesil beat nasty during this current slump?

Hurley
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:14 AM
Man, I'm confused.

1) What exactly did she say that is making the Venus fans clamor for revenge, given that she said Dementieva (not herself) would beat Venus?

2) How is the Sharapova comment, in which she is defending Dementieva's singles spot from any usurper, bitchy and not a show of loyalty?

Some of you people really need to clean the sand out of your vaginas.

selking
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:18 AM
Man, I'm confused.

1) What exactly did she say that is making the Venus fans clamor for revenge, given that she said Dementieva (not herself) would beat Venus?

2) How is the Sharapova comment, in which she is defending Dementieva's singles spot from any usurper, bitchy and not a show of loyalty?

Some of you people really need to clean the sand out of your vaginas.

don't use south parks lines

~ The Leopard ~
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:49 AM
:retard: Your post didn't even make sense.

Yeah, but you've got to love it when someone is inspired to produce a mad, incomprehensible rant. It shows they care about tennis. :hearts:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:41 AM
Myskina should watch her mouth for her own sake. Many players do not get away with bad mouthing the sisters. An ass whopping usually follows comments like that.

Netsurfer
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:33 AM
Man, I'm confused.

1) What exactly did she say that is making the Venus fans clamor for revenge, given that she said Dementieva (not herself) would beat Venus?

2) How is the Sharapova comment, in which she is defending Dementieva's singles spot from any usurper, bitchy and not a show of loyalty?


I agree. I also agree with what someone said earlier about how people shouldn't quote articles quite so selectively. You gotta see everything in context, not pick single lines and then get your knickers in a twist. I bet Venus and Anastasia would be perplexed to see some of the bashing going on here. They are both such cool women, despite being in such a competitive sport. Classy women, both of them.

russophile
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:00 AM
anastasia is a true girl and says what she feels. and i like that she shows her friendship with lena and her patriotism to russia. go nastya!

Slumpsova
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:53 AM
"Her ego was hurt?" So what was hurting Evilena when she didn't defend her Grand Slam? I guess her ass must have been hurting from watching Maria win her slam after Evilena win hers but yet Maria is the one challenging for number one less than a year later.

What was hurting all that time before her "comeback" if that is what you want to call it, I mean three, what four matches in a row and suddenly the bitch is a know it all.

Wow, what would happen if she had won four matches in a row? I think she would be out there commentating the matches while she is playing......to think you are playing host to what is probably the most accomplished country in tennis and you make stupid comments like that?

I think she is hating cos the bitch just couldn't call her comeback a comeback. Whateva, evilena, should just worry about herself and her miniature comeback. I don't know if she knew this, but the days long after her ass was shown the door at Wimbledon, Venus was still playing and on top of that, she had a ball to attend to. How much partying can she do.....and still hop on a plane, long after Myskina been there already(like two, what three days in advance) and still get used to living out of a suitcase, while Evilena sits at home with family and friends eating whatever they eat when they get together in Moscow. Yet Venus, who have to delay her grand slam celebration with family back home, still shows up. Yet Venus who just played two strenous weeks on grass, and now have to play on clay( the tennis calendar backwards, mind you) shows up and still manage to take Evilena to three sets.......go figure. Why should Venus be upset she lost?

I think that Evilena should be ashamed to have all that time to prepare and yet the bitch still deliver a three setter. I think Evilena, who is on her home turf and with family around, should be ashamed of herself.

Hooray, she won a damn match. I am happy for her, she was just waiting for that one; a win, a big win to come, and it came. Now What?

Nothing. When she waits up tomorrow, she will look on her mantlepiece and see what? The head of Venus Williams? No, what she would see is an empty space where her Roland Garros or other grand slam should be for 2005. The nerve of some people.

Instead of saying she is grateful for the win, especially against someone of her caliber, she goes out and makes it seem as if she went out knowing she was going to win. I think she is surprised she won. She knew she was going to get trampled, but she is suddenly the rejuvenated player with a hot streak. One? Ok, well you are not number one and it was only one match.

Girl please!!! In the words of Serena Williams: Some players make a name for themselvese by beating me [sic]

:bowdown:

pla
Jul 11th, 2005, 08:11 AM
I agree. I also agree with what someone said earlier about how people shouldn't quote articles quite so selectively. You gotta see everything in context, not pick single lines and then get your knickers in a twist. I bet Venus and Anastasia would be perplexed to see some of the bashing going on here. They are both such cool women, despite being in such a competitive sport. Classy women, both of them.

You'll never teach the posters here to consider all the contex, the intonation and so on of an interview. If they decided that Anastasia is a bitch, no matter what she says it will be "bitchy" for them. So, I think, there is no need to even try.

Prizeidiot
Jul 11th, 2005, 08:45 AM
I thought the "her ego was hurt" comment was sort of a compliment to Venus. ie. "she's the Wimbledon Champion, losing to me (maybe a more lowly player) would hurt."

And you can't blame her for sticking with her buddy. I don't think people like to hear that their friends didn't think they could win. And you have to stick with Elena in the team, she's played the other ties when no one else could/would. Losing to Venus in form (even if 1 and 2) isn't THAT bad. Maria can't skip the preliminary rounds and rock up for the final. Anastasia is exactly right in that regard.

iced gem
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:15 AM
I honestly don't think that Myskina said anything bad - some of these responses have blown the whole thing way out of proportion!
So - Myskina shows loyalty to her best friend - not a sign of being a bitch :lol:

Maria can't skip the preliminary rounds and rock up for the final. Anastasia is exactly right in that regard.

I agree - Maria hasn't shown any committment to Russia so far so she can't just expect to be selected to the final for when it suits her.

ceiling_fan
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:51 AM
lol good one nastya!! :lol:

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 11:54 AM
Itīs so fucking great to see posters bitching about Nastya! That is sooo 2004...WE ARE BACK!!! :lol: This has to be a good sign;)

Nastya you just rock!!! :rocker:

maccardel
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:29 PM
Somebody is hurt, that's for sure.

Sounds like Evilena was waiting to show that she can win big matches and also decide who gets on the Fed Cup team. Who is she to say that Dementieva is enough. If I remember correctly, usually the top player in that country has more input than the number 10 player. Yet Myskina is saying who should be on the team. She is like the number 3 or number 4 player :confused: go figure. Maybe, just maybe Mashona Washington should have said that Venus and Jill is all that is needed for team USA.

Use common sense instead of nonsense.

Tennis is a sport that is also defined by nationality and to say Sharapova and others are not invited, proves she messed up and those words will come back to eat her, especially when she takes on France and finds she needs some extra help.

maccardel
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:33 PM
People are so stupid. You guys need to learn to search for all the articles and not just pick only snippets of interviews. If eveyone did that you wouldn't be hating that much. Nastya spoke the truth and i bet if you ask Venus williams she'd agree. nastya is saying that venus had to dig more for the win. and she definately said in another article that venus being tired would work to her advantage.

you bitches need to chill. believe it or not nastya's mouth is good for tennis.

Her mouth may be good for tennis as a sideshow, but seriously speaking, is it good for her on the main courts?

maccardel
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:35 PM
Why would someone say Venus is back and will be #1 soon because she beat MYSKINA?? :haha:

That's the most preposterous thought I've ever heard. I guess half the players on tour should be #1 soon because they've all beaten Myskina too. :lol:

BTW who said Venus would destroy Myskina?? :scratch:

:haha::haha::haha::haha:

Martian Willow
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:37 PM
Sounds like Evilena was waiting to show that she can win big matches and also decide who gets on the Fed Cup team. Who is she to say that Dementieva is enough. If I remember correctly, usually the top player in that country has more input than the number 10 player. Yet Myskina is saying who should be on the team. She is like the number 3 or number 4 player :confused: go figure. Maybe, just maybe Mashona Washington should have said that Venus and Jill is all that is needed for team USA.

Use common sense instead of nonsense.

Tennis is a sport that is also defined by nationality and to say Sharapova and others are not invited, proves she messed up and those words will come back to eat her, especially when she takes on France and finds she needs some extra help.

Let's try not to take things quite so seriously, shall we? Then we won't waste our time typing out ridiculously vitriolic essays in response to a few fairly flippant remarks by a tennis player whose team have just won an important tie.

That's common sense. :wavey:

Anastasia has a sense of humour. You, apparently, do not. :)

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:48 PM
I love it when they are all bitches...kicking bags across lockerrooms and talking shit...Good on you Myskina...:devil: Now Kick her ass venus The next time you play her then talk shit about her...:D Thats what sports is about...:D

maccardel
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:52 PM
Let's try not to take things quite so seriously, shall we? Then we won't waste our time typing out ridiculously vitriolic essays in response to a few fairly flippant remarks by a tennis player whose team have just won an important tie.

That's common sense. :wavey:

Anastasia has a sense of humour. You, apparently, do not. :)

It's an open forum. Let the thread stay on the top of the list and slowly trickle down to the bottom of page one and into archive with no response at all. Her comments deserve some kind of acknowledgement. I am sure she is saying this to the press, but worse is probably said in the Russian newspapers with headlines of Myskina defeats Venus in some horrid Russian byline of "top russian player ends comeback of wimbledon champion" or whateva they write as bylines in russia.

I am sure she was pouring salt on the wounds of the loss. I saw that and decided to come with sour grapes against her salt. It was not personal, but more passionate than the norm. So what?

denine
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:54 PM
i think whatever myskina said was ok!i mean.. shouldn't she be proud of winning venus?!?! ahhh.see its kinda like a compliment! :)

miffedmax
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:05 PM
Are we forgetting that Myskina did reach the Wimbledon quarterfinals just a week ago and made the French Open mixed doubles semifinals? That's pretty decent results. :)

It's Fed Cup. Nasty can talk all the shit she wants to during Fed Cup because her record is pretty damned impressive.

Experimentee
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:23 PM
Myskina's always been bitchy, which is why its really amazing how people always talk about her like shes a sweet lovely girl. She says something bitchy just about every interview.

RenaSlam.
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:27 PM
One Slam Wonder Nastya. :p :wavey:

5 Slam (and Counting) Vee :) :worship:

Take that, Nastya! BWahahahhaha

Bitch

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:34 PM
All Anastasia said is that she thought Lena would beat Venus.
She didn't say anything negative about Venus.

And Anastasia will always be the first Russian slam winner.
That's a piece of history that will mean more and more over the years.
Because the Russians are coming. And will keep moving up the rankings and winning slams.

Jasmin
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:47 PM
I usually root for Myskina but when she is on the team she acts so different.
Can't wait for the hard courts.

It's also too bad that every only gloats over Maria when Myskina was the first Russian to win a slam.

miffedmax
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:54 PM
Okay, I love Lena. I worship Lena.

But "expecting" Lena to beat Venus?

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:54 PM
So basically this all comes down to one statement:

Playing Fed Cup turns Nastya into a nasty, bitchy, patriotic, agressive, great, thoughtless, mean and damn successfull russian asshole.

:lol: Love ya, Nastya;)

ys
Jul 11th, 2005, 02:59 PM
BTW, doesn't it annoy the Myskina's haters that with all her "bitchiness" she is a good friend with just about everyone on Tour. Everyone likes her.

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 03:03 PM
BTW, doesn't it annoy the Myskina's haters that with all her "bitchiness" she is a good friend with just about everyone on Tour. Everyone likes her.

Interesting isnīt it? I do especially love those few Dementieva fans who absolutely hate Nastya, itīs funny.

And even more interesting, how many people actually felt sorry for her in the last couple of months and now that she started to win again (esp. against certain top players), sheīs the super menace again.

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 03:31 PM
This is it? 3 pages? This is all the swarm can do? You are a disgrace for the Bashing Academy :(

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 03:32 PM
This is it? 3 pages? This is all the swarm can do? You are a disgrace for the Bashing Academy :(

Will get better throughout the next months, you can count on it...maybe already starting with Stockholm ;)

AlexB
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:13 PM
let the haters hate!....although the haters should try to find something tangible to hate her over rather than taking clips of interviews and not reading the whole thing....but what can u do?

it seems the fed cup brings out the haters en masse, last year with the sharapova comments and now this year with this...what he haters can try to do is call her names (and cant anyone come up with something more original than just "bitch" btw), but the facts are facts: over the last 2 years there has been NO BETTER player in fed cup than nastya...mvp in 2 of the last 2 ties she has played, and coming through in the clutch like no other....

but, ide like to welcome the haters back, because of her brutal year, they had taken a break but they have gotten into 2004 form in no time...

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:17 PM
I love it when they are all bitches...kicking bags across lockerrooms and talking shit...Good on you Myskina...:devil: Now Kick her ass venus The next time you play her then talk shit about her...:D Thats what sports is about...:D

Venus is not going to talk shit about her though. That's always a one way street.

moby
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:18 PM
It has been a long slump. And now it's finally over.

I'm talking about Nastya's haters, of course. :p

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:24 PM
It has been a long slump. And now it's finally over.

I'm talking about Nastya's haters, of course. :p

Hunting-season has officially started :eek:

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Speaking of selective memory:

"I expected Lena to win her match today but after she lost, I didn't really care who I played," Myskina said. "It was much harder yesterday as Williams is a player of a much higher class."

Ok, now people will say she bitched about Washington, Craybas or whoever. Beep.

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Hunting-season has officially started :eek:

I think you are putting a little too much importance on Myskina...:tape:

ys
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:45 PM
I think you are putting a little too much importance on Myskina...:tape:

Sure.. Too much importance for officially best female tennis player in the world of 2004.

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:46 PM
Sure.. Too much importance for officially best female tennis player in the world of 2004.

I guess this is what Cam'ron is talking about.

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:47 PM
I think you are putting a little too much importance on Myskina...:tape:

A lot of hunters apparently donīt;)

Oneofakind0490
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:49 PM
Myskina:worship: Love the bitchyness. I expect her to do well during the hardcourt season.

zuluagafan
Jul 11th, 2005, 04:53 PM
well all i can say is that she's back all the comments and everything.

GLAD TO HAVE U BACK NASTYA :hearts:

DA FOREHAND
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:01 PM
Sadly, the win over Venus, the Wimbledon champ, is all that Mystinka has to show for her year so far. Where was all this bravado during the FO, when the pressure was really on and she was suppose to step up and defend her title. Now speak on that Mystinka!
HELLO!

Wake up the sleeping beast...cya on the hardcourts!

chain
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:05 PM
They could be a lot beter with Sharapova and Kuznetsova instead of Myskina!
So what you're saying is it'll take two players to do the job Myskina does by herself? ;)

Larrybidd
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:09 PM
Its bad for someone like her to have confidence like this. Shes gonna have a roguh time when she starts losing over and over during the summer. You would think that she would realize that she didnt play anywhere near a top USA team but ofcorse being herself she is the same old bitch again

An abundance of comfidance is almost never a bad thing in the context of a pro athlete. A quick scan of the personality traits common to the greatest athletes in history shows that most all of them were quite arogant about their abilities, some obviously more outwardly arrogant than others. (Ali, McEnroe, Bonds come to mind). All the greats have a competitive edge to them.

If you don't think you are better than Venus Williams, you probrably won't beat Vebus Williams, becasue its pretty sure thing Venus thinks she's better than you. Serena Williams "knows" she's better than you. If Venus wasn't arrogant, she might actually have believed that her forehand was "hopelessly broken", like many pundits were saying. Confidence, even arrogance in the context of professional sport is'nt bad thing, I don't understand why people criticize it. It is a necessary componet for success at the highest level.

selking
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:12 PM
An abundance of comfidance is almost never a bad thing in the context of a pro athlete. A quick scan of the personality traits common to the greatest athletes in history shows that most all of them were quite arogant about their abilities, some obviously more outwardly arrogant than others. (Ali, McEnroe, Bonds come to mind). All the greats have a competitive edge to them.

If you don't think you are better than Venus Williams, you probrably won't beat Vebus Williams, becasue its pretty sure thing Venus thinks she's better than you. Serena Williams "knows" she's better than you. If Venus wasn't arrogant, she might actually have believed that her forehand was "hopelessly broken", like many pundits were saying. Confidence, even arrogance in the context of professional sport is'nt bad thing, I don't understand why people criticize it. It is a necessary componet for success at the highest level.

Sure confidence is a good thing, but not false confidence. The thing is, she can't beat these players on a regular basis but it seems from this that she thinks she can.

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:14 PM
Anastasia finished 2004 as #3. She certainly can beat Venus, Lindsay, Amelie, Kim, Justine, Maria...
and everyone else. She's already done it.

Denise4925
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:15 PM
haha the bitch wins a few matches in a row and thinks she can talk like that. Can't wait for reality check aka summer hardcourts
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Denise4925
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:17 PM
I love how Myskina goes from........"feel sorry for me.....everything in my life is so terrible right now" to "i am a bitch....and i cant believe dementieva didnt beat the wimbledon champion" in a matter of like 2 weeks :rolleyes: ..........i suggest you let your tennis do the talking from now on honey ;)
First she said she was nervous to play Venus, now she's talkin' all this shit. :lol:

DemWilliamsGulls
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:22 PM
LMAO! :lol: :lol:

Dont worry..after Venus reads her lil smart comments...she is going to eat her ass up on the court this fall....everybody knows those clay courts are for "special" players anyway...its pretty much a wildcards court. Myskina..will never be the champion or have the game Venus has....come on now...nobody really care what Myskina is talking about....everybody's still on a natural high from Venus winning Wimbledon...and Myskina is talkin trash about a FED CUP match????.. :rolleyes: Bitch please...

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:24 PM
Who cares what Venus reads. If she really can read Russian, she'll know Anastasia didn't say anything bad about her.

The reading comprehension of most posters is pathetic.

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:25 PM
Who cares what Venus reads. If she really can read Russian, she'll know Anastasia didn't say anything bad about her.

The reading comprehension of most posters is pathetic.

So the translation in the opening post was wrong?

Martian Willow
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:28 PM
Dont worry..after Venus reads her lil smart comments...she is going to eat her ass up on the court this fall....everybody knows those clay courts are for "special" players anyway...its pretty much a wildcards court. Myskina..will never be the champion or have the game Venus has....come on now...nobody really care what Myskina is talking about....everybody's still on a natural high from Venus winning Wimbledon...and Myskina is talkin trash about a FED CUP match????.. :rolleyes: Bitch please...

People do seem to care. A lot. :)

Denise4925
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:28 PM
Why would someone say Venus is back and will be #1 soon because she beat MYSKINA?? :haha:

That's the most preposterous thought I've ever heard. I guess half the players on tour should be #1 soon because they've all beaten Myskina too. :lol:

BTW who said Venus would destroy Myskina?? :scratch:
:tape: :haha:

AlexB
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:30 PM
it seems to me some are taking this loss hard

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:30 PM
So the translation in the opening post was wrong?Anastasia had just beaten Venus, and she thought Lena would also.

ys
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:35 PM
Who cares what Venus reads. If she really can read Russian, she'll know Anastasia didn't say anything bad about her.

The reading comprehension of most posters is pathetic.

Venus will be fine. She is an intelligent girl. Not a fuckwit, like some of her fans.. :lol:

Larrybidd
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:36 PM
Sure confidence is a good thing, but not false confidence. The thing is, she can't beat these players on a regular basis but it seems from this that she thinks she can.

I disagree. Even false confidence is a good thing - even a necessary thing, in sports. This is where sport is defferent than real life. In real life we are not competing against another individual every second. Very few players should "realistically" be able to beleive thay are better than Serena Williams. But if you are ranked #50 in the world and go up against Serena, you had better beleive that you are at least potentially better than Serena, or else you're gonna be road kill.

That's what intimidation means in sport. I doesn't mean players are scared their gonna be beaten up. Its that they are afraid thay are not as good as their opponent. Even if that's true, as a competitor you have to beleive it not true.

ys
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:39 PM
But if you are ranked #50 in the world and go up against Serena, you had better beleive that you are at least potentially better than Serena, or else you're gonna be road kill.

Serena looks more like a potential roadkill victim these days.. :lol:

selking
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:45 PM
I disagree. Even false confidence is a good thing - even a necessary thing, in sports. This is where sport is defferent than real life. In real life we are not competing against another individual every second. Very few players should "realistically" be able to beleive thay are better than Serena Williams. But if you are ranked #50 in the world and go up against Serena, you had better beleive that you are at least potentially better than Serena, or else you're gonna be road kill.

That's what intimidation means in sport. I doesn't mean players are scared their gonna be beaten up. Its that they are afraid thay are not as good as their opponent. Even if that's true, as a competitor you have to beleive it not true.

yea Serena isn't really a prime example to use.. lets say davenport. And I don't care what you say, if Lindsay davenport is better then one certain player and she is playing normal she is going to beat them. The mental part of the game can only go so far..

Larrybidd
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:52 PM
Serena looks more like a potential roadkill victim these days.. :lol:

Tough to understand. Serena came back from injury to play in a tournament that was important to her - too soon it's now clear - and was clear to her coach before the tournament began. Yet, 'Rena lasts to the 3rd round. Now all of a sudden, this is evidence of her demise? Henin losses in the 1ST ROUND, and its evidence of nothing but injury or fatigue or whatever. What's wrong with this picture?

I agree. Injured players are vulnerable.

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 05:59 PM
Serena looks more like a potential roadkill victim these days.. :lol:

Still better than any of your faves.

Denise4925
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:06 PM
Tough to understand. Serena came back from injury to play in a tournament that was important to her - too soon it's now clear - and was clear to her coach before the tournament began. Yet, 'Rena lasts to the 3rd round. Now all of a sudden, this is evidence of her demise? Henin losses in the 1ST ROUND, and its evidence of nothing but injury or fatigue or whatever. What's wrong with this picture?

I agree. Injured players are vulnerable.
:o :tape:

spartanfan
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:34 PM
Anastasia finished 2004 as #3. She certainly can beat Venus, Lindsay, Amelie, Kim, Justine, Maria...
and everyone else. She's already done it.

Yea, now go say that shyt to Serena and let her beat Myskina back down like she's done every time they've played.

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:39 PM
They just played a 6-4 in the third, match at the YEC. Anastasia's not running from anyone.
Let Serena come to Moscow, like she said she would.
There's a Tier I in Moscow every year. Come get some.

Crazy Canuck
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:44 PM
Wow. This thread has dumbfounded me.

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:45 PM
:lol: is this "discussion" still going on?

One thing is for sure: To read all those bashing attacks, is actually the highest compliment one can possibly get from certain posters;)

Dead and buried...RESURRECTION :lol:

frenchie
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Wahoo.....
This shows Nastya represents a threat again to all this posters' faves!

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Venus will be fine. She is an intelligent girl. Not a fuckwit, like some of her fans.. :lol:

This is interesting point...I wouldnīt really call it that way but yeah Venus is great and I really like her...why canīt some of her fans be like the player?

Stupid bitches we are according to that :o

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:49 PM
Wahoo.....
This shows Nastya represents a threat again to all this posters' faves!

Itīs a good feeling, isnīt it?

Denise4925
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:50 PM
I can't speak for everyone, but I think what insulted a lot of Venus' fans was this comment made by Myskina:

- Venus Willians said today that she found some energy that she was lacking yesterday. Do you have any secrets how you get ready to the specific match?

Nastya: I would't treat Venus' words too seriously. She was unplesantly hurt that she lost yestarday. Her presonal "I" woke up, that is Venus just can't lose 2 matches in a row. (that what Venus thinks). I don't have any secrets. Everything is individual.


It sounds arrogant and dismissive. But, I take it with a grain of salt, because I have no idea whether something was lost in the translation. I do, however, think it was funny, because I like for players to talk shit.

I also think that what she said about Maria was funny as hell, but by the same token, I respect her for honoring her present teammates. Because whatever brought you, should take you the rest of the way.

spartanfan
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:51 PM
They just played a 6-4 in the third, match at the YEC. Anastasia's not running from anyone.
Let Serena come to Moscow, like she said she would.
There's a Tier I in Moscow every year. Come get some.

Russia's a third world country. Why do you think so many players flee to other spots for better facilities and better opportunities. Let Myskin bring her butt back to the US to get another beat down. Has Myskina ever won a tournament in North America?

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:52 PM
Yeah, she won in Florida.

frenchie
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:52 PM
Itīs a good feeling, isnīt it?

Yeah I like it
It remembers me the good old days ;)

spartanfan
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Yeah, she won in Florida.

What tournament?

frenchie
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Yeah, she won in Florida.

Sarasota 2003 ;)

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Sarasota in 2003. She made the San Diego final last year.

Denise4925
Jul 11th, 2005, 06:54 PM
This is interesting point...I wouldnīt really call it that way but yeah Venus is great and I really like her...why canīt some of her fans be like the player?

Stupid bitches we are according to that :o
Spunky, I'm surprised that you're stooping to ys' tactic of fan bashing, when he has nothing more relevant to say. I had more respect for you than that. You were doing fine earlier.

miffedmax
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:01 PM
I can't speak for everyone, but I think what insulted a lot of Venus' fans was this comment made by Myskina:



It sounds arrogant and dismissive. But, I take it with a grain of salt, because I have no idea whether something was lost in the translation. I do, however, think it was funny, because I like for players to talk shit.

I also think that what she said about Maria was funny as hell, but by the same token, I respect her for honoring her present teammates. Because whatever brought you, should take you the rest of the way.

I have to agree. There's no way on earth Venus expects to lose 2 in a row.

And she's usually right. The minute I heard Nasty won, I knew my girl was going to get taken behind the woodshed by Venus.

I'm sorry, but I really don't see why the Nasty haters are out on this, other than that they are haters. My list o' faves goes 1. Lena D. 2. Nasty 3.Vee, but I was backing Vee in both matches 'cause it was Fed Cup.

spartanfan
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Sarasota 2003? Wasn't that like a tier IV or V? Serena won't even get out of bed to sign up for anything under a tier II. But let me put things in perspective for you little Myskina fans. Myskina has ONE GRAND SLAM TITLE. Serena has SEVEN, count them SEVEN. Myskina has ONE GRAND SLAM TITLE. Venus has FIVE, count them FIVE. THE entire COUNTRY OF RUSSIA in its ENTIRE HISTORY OF PLAYING TENNIS has THREE GRAND SLAM titles! SERENA alone has won that many in one single YEAR (2002). Now stop acting like Myskina is a threat or all that, cause she isn't and won't ever be. She's a soft top ten player at best and is lucky to be still in it.

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Everyone can badmouth a player. It doesn't require much intellectual depth. When you don't know what to say, bring up Serena (she would have kicked her ass, yeah definately, right on, etc).
Venus lost. On red clay. In Moscow. Against a former RG champion. A defeat to a RG finalist wouldn't have been a suprise either.

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:05 PM
Spunky, I'm surprised that you're stooping to ys' tactic of fan bashing, when he has nothing more relevant to say. I had more respect for you than that. You were doing fine earlier.

Well like I said...according to my theory, I can be bitchy as well if itīs necessary.

Nahh...Iīll be back in normal Spunky mode soon, but you certainly canīt say that there arenīt some (I didnīt say every single one) fans who are a bit - letīs say "mean".

I just wanted to have some fun with all you guys...I declare myself insane in this wonderful thread. Otherwise I wouldnīt survive all this. :lol:

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:07 PM
This thread is pretty pathetic (well most of it)

Nastya said this............ so what ???
CHILL OUT !!!!!!!!!!!

its not like Venus hasnt said anything ever before is it :rolleyes:

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:08 PM
Now stop acting like Myskina is a threat or all that, cause she isn't and won't ever be. She's a soft top ten player at best and is lucky to be still in it.
That doesn't explain Venus's trip to Moscow to face the Russian victims does it? Right after Wimbledon. You have no logic at all. Think before posting

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Venus lost. On red clay. In Moscow. Against a former RG champion. A defeat to a RG finalist wouldn't have been a suprise either.

Itīs not about that Lucas, still donīt get it? The bashing would also take place even if Nastya had lost that match!

I think I need a drink... :tape:

Denise4925
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Well like I said...according to my theory, I can be bitchy as well if itīs necessary.

Nahh...Iīll be back in normal Spunky mode soon, but you certainly canīt say that there arenīt some (I didnīt say every single one) fans who are a bit - letīs say "mean".

I just wanted to have some fun with all you guys...I declare myself insane in this wonderful thread. Otherwise I wouldnīt survive all this. :lol:
:lol: Okay, you're forgiven. :yeah:

.ivy.
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:13 PM
They could be a lot beter with Sharapova and Kuznetsova instead of Myskina!

Right..."Queen of Clay" & "I don't choke"

I have no idea why they didn't think of it before!

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:14 PM
Itīs not about that Lucas, still donīt get it? The bashing would also take place even if Nastya had lost that match!

I doubt it...for some reason.

Shuji Shuriken
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:16 PM
Looking at Natsya pictures, that bitch really needs to get her grill fixed. They are definitely messed up :tape:

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:17 PM
I doubt it...for some reason.

No, no, noooo...Lucas...not you!!! You were the only one who "understands" me...I lost you :sad:

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:22 PM
This is FUN thread :D :bounce:
The Russians beat the USA in Fed Cup.
On to RG!:cool:

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:25 PM
Spunky I'll deal with you later

AlexB
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Sarasota 2003? Wasn't that like a tier IV or V? Serena won't even get out of bed to sign up for anything under a tier II. But let me put things in perspective for you little Myskina fans. Myskina has ONE GRAND SLAM TITLE. Serena has SEVEN, count them SEVEN. Myskina has ONE GRAND SLAM TITLE. Venus has FIVE, count them FIVE. THE entire COUNTRY OF RUSSIA in its ENTIRE HISTORY OF PLAYING TENNIS has THREE GRAND SLAM titles! SERENA alone has won that many in one single YEAR (2002). Now stop acting like Myskina is a threat or all that, cause she isn't and won't ever be. She's a soft top ten player at best and is lucky to be still in it.

the last sentence applies to venus as much as it does to nastya if you follow tennis closely...and i dont need to remind you that myskina beat a williams on her way to her grand slam..and she has won zero titles in russia and us title is no better than a russian tier one

good God, some people are taking this loss WAY WAY hard

and what does all of russia have to do with any of this or serena btw....myskina beat v williams in a fed cup match, good win for her, no shame on venus....so instead of the hardcores saying congrats myskina u played well, at first they whip out a fatigue excuse, then when venus routs dementieva (funny how she wasn't fatigued less than 24 hours later) the myskina loss sinks in so they have to invent and twist some press conference to extract a supposed diss to have an avenue to vent for pages on end...some fans have short memories forgeting that before wimbledon she had won some small time title in istambul (the same ones this poster disparages) and over the last 2 years or so venus has not had better results than myskina, so they start whipping out results from ages ago to prove points that dont matter in this discussion...because of myskina's bad year people forgot she can beat any player on any day even your precious venus...

spartanfan
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:28 PM
That doesn't explain Venus's trip to Moscow to face the Russian victims does it? Right after Wimbledon. You have no logic at all. Think before posting

And you can't seem to face reality. Myskina is not a real threat, and was lucky to beat a tired Wimbledon champion. Lets see how Mystinka does in the remaining big tourney, probably likes she's done for the last year, like shyt! Living and playing right up to her true potential.:kiss:

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Anastasia is still defending 2 Tier I's in Moscow. Going for a Tier I threepeat in her hometown.
And she made the YEC semis, although another Russian won it.

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:32 PM
the last sentence applies to venus as much as it does to nastya if you follow tennis closely...and i dont need to remind you that myskina beat a williams on her way to her grand slam..and she has won zero titles in russia and us title is no better than a russian tier one

good God, some people are taking this loss WAY WAY hard

and what does all of russia have to do with any of this or serena btw....myskina beat v williams in a fed cup match, good win for her, no shame on venus....so instead of the hardcores saying congrats myskina u played well, at first they whip out a fatigue excuse, then when venus routs dementieva (funny how she wasn't fatigued less than 24 hours later) the myskina loss sinks in so they have to invent and twist some press conference to extract a supposed diss to have an avenue to vent for pages on end...some fans have short memories forgeting that before wimbledon she had won some small time title in istambul (the same ones this poster disparages) and over the last 2 years or so venus has not had better results than myskina, so they start whipping out results from ages ago to prove points that dont matter in this discussion...because of myskina's bad year people forgot she can beat any player on any day even your precious venus...

Did you check out who started this thread and translated that interview??

spartanfan
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:32 PM
Russia 3 Grand Slams
Venus 5 Grand Slams
Serena 7 Grand Slams.

Enough Said.

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:33 PM
A Justine fan started this thread. She doesn't like Anastasia.
Russia - 3 slams out of the last 6. Plus the YEC and Fed Cup.

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:34 PM
And you can't seem to face reality. Myskina is not a real threat, and was lucky to beat a tired Wimbledon champion.
Lucky was that net cord that gave Venus the 1st set.

Lets see how Mystinka does in the remaining big tourney, probably likes she's done for the last year, like shyt! Living and playing right up to her true potential.:kiss:
I fear a board crash if Nastya beats Venus in the Stockholm final

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:34 PM
A Justine fan started this thread. She doesn't like Anastasia.

AlexB makes it seem like someone was so upset that Venus lost to Myskina that they made a thread twisting Myskina's words so that they could bash her for beating Venus. I'm not seeing how that is the case.

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:36 PM
A Justine fan started this thread. She doesn't like Anastasia.

Seems I misjudged that girl :(

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:36 PM
This thread was not started by an Anastasia fan.

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:37 PM
AlexB makes it seem like someone was so upset that Venus lost to Myskina that they made a thread twisting Myskina's words so that they could bash her for beating Venus. I'm not seeing how that is the case.
That's not the case, drawing some attention off maybe...and having fun reading page after page :rolleyes:

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:43 PM
Page 5 and counting...come on people...we can set a new "bashing thread" record!!!

AlexB
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:47 PM
Did you check out who started this thread and translated that interview??

i know who started the thread...the problem is not posting interviews, but those with an agenda who see hidden meanings in it...as an aside, and just as a reminder, the fatigue excuse was used right after the rubber before this was posted

Knizzle
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:50 PM
i know who started the thread...the problem is not posting interviews, but those with an agenda who see hidden meanings in it...as an aside, and just as a reminder, the fatigue excuse was used right after the rubber before this was posted

The fatigue thing was something Venus said before the rubber. She admitted she was tired even before the draw came out.

Zippy
Jul 11th, 2005, 07:59 PM
How this thread is preety long, so I simply post in it too :p

Btw Myskina didn't criticize nor insult Venus based on the translations in the 1st page, so what the heck is al ths fuss about anyway :confused:
:rolleyes:

DevilishAttitude
Jul 11th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Since by the sounds of it this thread has turned into a mess it desperately needs a post or something from me :hearts: :lol:

I think Myskina is being well stupid. At first. I'm surprised Elena lost :shrug: :rolleyes: HELLO! This is Dementieva were talking about, not exactly known for wins over top players this year.

Apart from that her comments are fine and funny. *Her ego is hurt* :lol: :tape: So would mine if I'd lost to her this year. :tape:

I personally don't see why it's such a big issue but it seems Williams fans have it so so rough they feel the need to attack every player and poster who doesn't give a good comment and then say when Venus says things like this and gets complained about she's being mistreated and everybody is a hypocrite cos it's a Williams sister and nobody gets it as bad. Stop taking it heart and get on with your lives people. :)

I think Venus couldn't really care less about Myskina. It's Venus. She's a Williams sister. That = Me, Me, ME.

This thread will be locked soon probably :sad:

Serena+LenaDrule
Jul 11th, 2005, 08:37 PM
won't be surprised to see this thread still alive by the end of the week.

michelle11
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:06 PM
Russia 3 Grand Slams
Venus 5 Grand Slams
Serena 7 Grand Slams.

Enough Said.



and Steffi Graf 22 Grand Slams

so what is said ??

Black Mamba.
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:10 PM
and Steffi Graf 22 Grand Slams

so what is said ??
Are you Calimero377?

meyerpl
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:13 PM
Wow. I think the truest thing I read on this thread was that if either player read some of the comments here, they'd be baffled. Also true: They're both classy players. I don't need a history lessons on the Williams sisters. The fact is, Venus and Nastya are both special, elite players at the present time. They are both a threat in any tournament and capable of beating any player alive. There is no woman dominating the game now. There are a handfull who are the best players today. We had two of them play each other in Venus and Anastasia. Anastasia won this time. There's no need to be so angry about it or about something you THINK Anastasia implied in something she said. It's a game. Just enjoy it.

michelle11
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:16 PM
Are you Calimero377?


no


is it a good or a bad sign that you ask me this?
tell me who is calimero.

Brooks.
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:20 PM
Myskina's constant bitchiness is just a mask for her own insecurities anyways.......she did this with sharapova last fall when she knew maria was gonna take over as the russian number 1......myskina should just be happy with her 1 french open title b/c unfortunately for her thats all she's ever gonna get ;)

meyerpl
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:42 PM
Why would someone take apparent pleasure in bashing a tennis player? Because she made remarks that, if you interpret them a certain way, were conceited or disrespectful? For this a person would degrade a player's entire career? No, you would do so because she beat the player you were hoping would win and you don't handle disappointment very well.

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Wow. I think the truest thing I read on this thread was that if either player read some of the comments here, they'd be baffled. Also true: They're both classy players. I don't need a history lessons on the Williams sisters. The fact is, Venus and Nastya are both special, elite players at the present time. They are both a threat in any tournament and capable of beating any player alive. There is no woman dominating the game now. There are a handfull who are the best players today. We had two of them play each other in Venus and Anastasia. Anastasia won this time. There's no need to be so angry about it or about something you THINK Anastasia implied in something she said. It's a game. Just enjoy it.

You get my "Newbie of the year"-award! :worship:

Maybe someone can just turn this stupid thread into a direction which would finally close this thread like a remark which is politically incorrect or...hey what about livescoring? Itīs a pity there are no matches on right now :lol:

SJW
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:53 PM
why the hell is this thread 5 pages? :confused:

Black Mamba.
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:53 PM
no


is it a good or a bad sign that you ask me this?
tell me who is calimero.


You mentioned Graf and Calimero brings Graf up when the topic has nothing to do with her.

_LuCaS_
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:55 PM
We should make this a chat thread :lol:

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 09:56 PM
We should make this a chat thread :lol:

Good idea! I bought an apple today :D and then I went home. :angel:


:confused:

AlexB
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:01 PM
Why would someone take apparent pleasure in bashing a tennis player? Because she made remarks that, if you interpret them a certain way, were conceited or disrespectful? For this a person would degrade a player's entire career? No, you would do so because she beat the player you were hoping would win and you don't handle disappointment very well.


that sums it up nicely..

Zippy
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:04 PM
why the hell is this thread 5 pages? :confused:
Cause members keep posting in it :p

SJW
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:09 PM
i skimmed over the first three pages but nothing interesting was posted.

a) Nastya is a bitch about everyone. FACT.
b) the same people who are defending her get worked up when she bitches about their fave. FACT. these same Henin fans are bigging her up now as they were damning her when she talked shit about JHH. :)
c) you gotta appreciate her honesty. something must be going for her, because she gets on with most players, most of my faves included.
d) her comments dont bother or affect Venus. and Venus will probably beat her more times than not on anything other than clay especially.
e) while Nastya can lose to qualifiers, she can beat anyone on her day :lol: Serena is the only top player she doesnt have a win over :)

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:15 PM
Cause members keep posting in it :p

Ups, I did it again :tape: ...remember the time when Nastya even "bitched" about good friend and team mate Dementieva? It was just two weeks ago. All those memories...just wait and see: Next week she will bitch about Kim with whom sheīs even better friends...just wait and see. Welcome to BitchNasty!

AlexB
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:17 PM
Myskina's constant bitchiness is just a mask for her own insecurities anyways.......she did this with sharapova last fall when she knew maria was gonna take over as the russian number 1......myskina should just be happy with her 1 french open title b/c unfortunately for her thats all she's ever gonna get ;)


for the love of God, its a fed cup tie.....people took this loss badly....where to begin with this: sharapova was asked to join the team this year and refused.....she may not win another major but she made the fed cup final going through v in the process...myskina is insecure but some venus fans have to bring up the past and make excuses everytime she loses...that sounds secure to me


anyway we need to revisit the press conference transcript:
- USA team changed your opponent at the last minute. Did that influence you in any way?
Anastasiya: Honestly, I didn't care who is on the other side of the net. Actually I didn't even plan to play today. But Elena Dementieva unexpectetly lost to Venus Williams, and I had to come on court. I didn't care to analyze my opponent at that time.

- Venus Willians said today that she found some energy that she was lacking yesterday. Do you have any secrets how you get ready to the specific match?
Nastya: I would't treat Venus' words too seriously. She was unplesantly hurt that she lost yestarday. Her presonal "I" woke up, that is Venus just can't lose 2 matches in a row. (that what Venus thinks). I don't have any secrets. Everything is individual.

if v was fatigued like we are led to believ, then she would not have been any better off the next day, and playing away against a fresh dementieva, venus should be an underdog...hence her winning, and killing actually dementieva was a suprise....doesn't sound like bitchiness thats a good assesment of the situation....anyway WHAT TEAM EXPECTS TO LOSE? from what i saw saturday, williams was not winning sunday.....the team felt venus would lose and myskina would get the night off....they didnt and myskina then said id dont matter if the opponent changed (and it didn't cause she ended up winning)

next myskina with her answer doesn't buy that fatigue was a factor in her win (and its funny cause most people killing these comments probably didnt watch the match) myskina won fair and square...and also mentions venus didnt want to lose 2 matches in a row....thats being a bitch? i thought the fatigue excuse was nonsense as well...

truth is nastya the last 2 years has been a fed cup pillar, winning all the important matches, and no amount of excuses or hate will change that

michelle11
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:17 PM
You mentioned Graf and Calimero brings Graf up when the topic has nothing to do with her.


o.k.

instead of graf I could have named any other player with a high number.
the point is that I don't see any sense in repeating the number of grand slams on and on and to concluse that the player with more is right and vice versa.

as you can see,I'm new in this forum and this thread is really frightening.
perhaps a player could get killed by some "fans" because of defeating their fav.

all in all some ... let's say "strange" people out her.

ys
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:21 PM
Cause members keep posting in it :p

They are indeed .... members..

serenafan08
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:22 PM
o.k.

instead of graf I could have named any other player with a high number.
the point is that I don't see any sense in repeating the number of grand slams on and on and to concluse that the player with more is right and vice versa.

as you can see,I'm new in this forum and this thread is really frightening.
perhaps a player could get killed by some "fans" because of defeating their fav.

all in all some ... let's say "strange" people out her.
Well, welcome to the board michelle. :wavey: Stuff like this happens all the time; people will bash a player when she beats their favorite. Don't be alarmed though; all threads aren't like this one.

ys
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Serena is the only top player she doesnt have a win over :)

And, mind you, they played only once since she has entered Top 15, and it was damn close..

Paneru
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:28 PM
i skimmed over the first three pages but nothing interesting was posted.

a) Nastya is a bitch about everyone. FACT.
b) the same people who are defending her get worked up when she bitches about their fave. FACT. these same Henin fans are bigging her up now as they were damning her when she talked shit about JHH. :)
c) you gotta appreciate her honesty. something must be going for her, because she gets on with most players, most of my faves included.
d) her comments dont bother or affect Venus. and Venus will probably beat her more times than not on anything other than clay especially.
e) while Nastya can lose to qualifiers, she can beat anyone on her day :lol: Serena is the only top player she doesnt have a win over :)

That's one of the many things I admire
about Venus.

She doesn't allow herself to get caught up
she said-she said garbage or create any of it.

You notice she'll rarely ever talk about any other
player outside of Serena in her interviews.

She stays out of that stuff and
goes about her business.


Anyways, this thread should die now! :cool: :tape: :wavey:

LeRoy.
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:30 PM
Anyways, this thread should die now! :cool: :tape: :wavey:


No. :p Myskina hating is the in thing now that she has beaten a big name ;)

Iheartennis
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:30 PM
the people being negative to myskina obviously didn't do any research. you should listen to her interview on the Fedcup home page and read the fedcup article, plus read venus's interview and listen to it.

do some homework bitches and hopefully you realize myskina isn't being a bitch. stop makin assumption from snippets of articles!

this goes for all post. You need to learn some internet research skills. find the answers for yourself instead of just going on by what someone says.

Paneru
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:32 PM
Die Die DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE................. :smash:

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:32 PM
No. :p Myskina hating is the in thing now that she has beaten a big name ;)

Iīd love to see further intense bitching in the future :angel:

Iheartennis
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:33 PM
the people being negative to myskina obviously didn't do any research. you should listen to her interview on the Fedcup home page and read the fedcup article, plus read venus's interview and listen to it.

do some homework bitches and hopefully you realize myskina isn't being a bitch. stop makin assumption from snippets of articles!

this goes for all post. You need to learn some internet research skills. find the answers for yourself instead of just going on by what someone says.


Plus i hate that people call a lady a bitch when she speaks her mind. honestly when roddick or any of the men do it. It's no big deal. You think a board called WTAWORLD would have people in it that would support womens tennis and its athletes instead of bashing them for being strong women.

this is probably the reason women will never be equal to men in the work place. face it ladies, we are our worst enemy.

LeRoy.
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:34 PM
do some homework bitches and hopefully you realize myskina isn't being a bitch. stop makin assumption from snippets of articles!



Don't you know that anyone not being cloyingly sweet about her opponents/others is a real BITCH. :p

Paneru
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:39 PM
Plus i hate that people call a lady a bitch when she speaks her mind. honestly when roddick or any of the men do it. It's no big deal. You think a board called WTAWORLD would have people in it that would support womens tennis and its athletes instead of bashing them for being strong women.

this is probably the reason women will never be equal to men in the work place. face it ladies, we are our worst enemy.

Truth on so many levels.

It's one thing to have a man trying to tear a woman down but
astonishing to see how many women tear each other down.

Iheartennis
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:39 PM
oh yeah, im big bitch. hahahaha. especially when in the company of other bitches. but seriously that bitch played awesome against venus.

deckham
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:41 PM
I don't mind venus to be honest... it's serena i can't stand.

Myskina always kicks it up a notch for fed cup.. with her attitude and her play... she's basically acting as the captain of russia and it seems to me she's doing a hell of a job. she's doing it on the court and off the court. what more could you ask for???

You Venus fans are entirely too sensitive. B/c of what myskina said at the press conference Venus will destroy her in the next match???? :lol: if that's the only thing that's going to motivate her in the next matchup then she has a lot of work to do. again, that's "venus fans" who think that. i'm sure venus isn't so sorely affected by such words from nastya.

nastya's whoopin' ass and taking names..... you guys just need to realize that... :drink:

Spunky83
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:41 PM
oh yeah, im big bitch. hahahaha. especially when in the company of other bitches. but seriously that bitch played awesome against venus.

A bitchinī performance! Ok, me the bitchy fan of the uber-bitch has to sleep now and when I am back, thread probably will be still here.

DragonFlame
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:43 PM
iewh i just cant believe the woman, finally won some matches in a row and she's back to the bitching. i felt really sorry for her after the french, she was crying and sad in a pressconference. nobody deserves that but coming back like this.. i am the queen, kneel to me to me she's just an average player with a bad season at the moment wont be amazed 1 of or dogs died when she loses in the first round in the coming tournie:rolleyes:

Iheartennis
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:43 PM
A bitchinī performance! Ok, me the bitchy fan of the uber-bitch has to sleep now and when I am back, thread probably will be still here.


bump. lets keep this thread going.

bitches of the WTA World UNITE!

deckham
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:52 PM
iewh i just cant believe the woman, finally won some matches in a row and she's back to the bitching. i felt really sorry for her after the french, she was crying and sad in a pressconference. nobody deserves that but coming back like this.. i am the queen, kneel to me to me she's just an average player with a bad season at the moment wont be amazed 1 of or dogs died when she loses in the first round in the coming tournie:rolleyes:
wow... that's bitter, sick and twisted

nastya never asked for pity. she takes it all out on herself....

i am the queen kneel to me???? where the hell did she imply that?

GogoGirl
Jul 11th, 2005, 10:55 PM
Hey All,


I don't think Ana was putting Venus down all the way. Remember what she said about beating Elena @ Wimby? She mentioned Elena's serve and insinuated - that although it looked like she was down - out and over in their match - the reason she was able to turn it around was because of Elena's serve, or something to that effect. I disagreed with that statement then - because in that match - a three setter - Elena's serve held up pretty good. She should have built herself up by stating the obvious - and that was that she stepped it up - found her game - and etc.

So..............some of these comments from players reinforce why for the most part - there is nothing wrong when a player explains their play - what they did wrong - what they could improve upon in the future and etc., when they lose a match. That should be all that is required. When a player wins - they should be able to explain what went right for them - w/o knocking the other player, or explain what they think went wrong with said other player. Elena woulda-shoulda-coulda won that Wimby match. Wouldn't it have been in Myskina's best interest to explain how she escaped with a win by the hair on her chinny-chin-chin - and as it pertained to HER upping her level? We all know Elena didn't fall asleep in that match. That child is a fighter.

I don't want to crack on Ana about what she said about Elena and Venus, because she didn't have time to think things out. It would have served her better though if she would have said something along the lines - about how she felt/thought Elena would have made it a tougher match - and just ended it at that. Because in my mind - may haps she hurt Elena's feelings more so than Venus's - and if Venus even cares. We know Elena would care - because she was playing for her country, and what Ana says might affect her.

So again, a player should stick to just commenting on what they did wrong in a loss - how they hope to improve next time, and blah-blah-blah. And w/a win - they should just talk about what they did to secure it - IMO. Serena, Venus and some others, usually only talk about themselves and what they did wrong.

gorecki
Jul 12th, 2005, 01:03 AM
nice interview with Nastya with Chris Bowers before the tie
http://www.fedcup.com/news/newsaudio.asp?id=10677
http://www.fedcup.com/shared/medialibrary/audio/mp3/FC_1992_mp3.MP3

another one after her match
http://www.fedcup.com/news/newsaudio.asp?id=10694
http://www.fedcup.com/shared/medialibrary/audio/mp3/FC_2088_mp3.MP3

Sorry Spunky :hug: for tarnishing her uberbitch reputation! :lol:

vwfan
Jul 12th, 2005, 02:16 AM
First of all, there must be something lost in the translation. I don't even know what myskina said. I guest the gist was that Venus had a bruised ego from losing to her. The rest is just incomprehensible. :confused:
Anyway, Myskina knew exactly how to frustrate a tired Venus who just completed an epic final to win a Grand Slam title. Myskina knew the situation. Good for her: she read the circumstances correctly and exploited them to her benefit and the benefit of the Russian team.
I wouldn't want her to read too much in the win or project Venus defeats on a regular basis to Russian players. After all, she has just taken down the Russian #1 and reigning Wimbie champ. So. . .give Myskina a break. Clearly, she is more hopeful than realistic about Russian prospects, including her own.

Larrybidd
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:21 AM
do some homework bitches and hopefully you realize myskina isn't being a bitch. stop makin assumption from snippets of articles!



Anyone presuming to opine about another player's ego is - sorry to say - being a bit bitchy. Come on, lets be honest.

Look, as I said earlier, I don't think - taken in total - what she said was all that egregius. She won both of her mathes in an important event, she can crow a little. And she likes being provocative (or blunt) or whatever you call it. And people reacted to it. It's called blowback. I'm sure Myskina could care less (she probrably enjoys getting a rise out of people).

maccardel
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:29 AM
I say bash the bitch, the whateva you want to call her. Hey, williams fans are entitled to their opinions just like any other fans up in here. I think if you read between the lines and there are many, other fans don't really want to hear Williams fans rip any player a new one.....well this week on the platter is Myskina and if another player wants to nominate themselves for next week, go right ahead. Sometimes it is not personal and only fun. Afterall, how many tourneys were going on this past week?

Daniel
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:45 AM
Nastya :banana:

Veritas
Jul 12th, 2005, 06:11 AM
- USA team changed your opponent at the last minute. Did that influence you in any way?

Anastasiya: Honestly, I didn't care who is on the other side of the net. Actually I didn't even plan to play today. But Elena Dementieva unexpectetly lost to Venus Williams, and I had to come on court. I didn't care to analyze my opponent at that time.

I kinda expected Lena to lose. She didn't play well against Mashona, which wasn't a good sign going into a match against the current Wimbledon champ...

- Venus Willians said today that she found some energy that she was lacking yesterday. Do you have any secrets how you get ready to the specific match?

Nastya: I would't treat Venus' words too seriously. She was unplesantly hurt that she lost yestarday. Her presonal "I" woke up, that is Venus just can't lose 2 matches in a row. (that what Venus thinks). I don't have any secrets. Everything is individual.

I agree. Winning Wimbledon not long ago would've given Williams the confidence and self-belief that she was back to the top of the tennis order. Losing to a slumping Myskina would've been a blow to her confidence, and coming back to beat the world no.5 in straight sets probably came from her being determined to not be embarassed again.

denine
Jul 12th, 2005, 10:04 AM
goodness..venus fans should just chill. its ok to LOSE YOU KNOW. no point being all sore about it.:)

Spunky83
Jul 12th, 2005, 12:08 PM
The way how this board is working
(all-mighty rule: itīs not about the truth, itīs what YOU personally make out of it)

One:

"To be honest, I wasn't expecting us to be leading after the first match (of the tie)," said Dementieva.

Interpretation 1: Elena thinks Venus is a genius on court and respects her abilites
Interpretation 2: Elena thinks Nastya just totally sucks and she herself will be the one to get Russia into the finals
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Conclusion (according to the all-mighty rule): Elena is a total bitch


Two:

Myskina: "I wasn't just playing an ordinary player. I was up against Venus Williams, the Wimbledon champion."

Interpretation 1: Nastya thinks Venus is a genius on court and respects her abilites
Interpretation 2: After having beaten Venus, Nastya thinks she could have easily won Wimbledon too and thus doesnīt see Venus as this yearīs vindicated Wimby winner
-----------
Conclusion: Nastya is a bitch


Overall conclusion: Go figure!

miffedmax
Jul 12th, 2005, 02:26 PM
[B]The way how this board is working

----
Conclusion (according to the all-mighty rule): Elena is a total bitch






How DARE you say that about my FAVORITE player! ELENA IS PERFECT!

She is so perfect when she farts it smells like roses! You are a bitch for saying anything other than "Elena is PERFECT." You should be banned from ever posting again because you said something bad about ELENA.

Everybody on WTAworld loves Elena EXCEPT YOU. You are clearly insane. Blah, blah, blah. And, BTW, Nastya slept with all the officials and ball people at RG last year so they would make calls in her favor and give Lena D. heavier balls. That's the only reason she beat PERFECT ELENA. Nastya is a horrible diseased bitch and so are all her fans.

:mad:

morningglory
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:38 PM
I say bash the bitch, the whateva you want to call her. Hey, williams fans are entitled to their opinions just like any other fans up in here. I think if you read between the lines and there are many, other fans don't really want to hear Williams fans rip any player a new one.....well this week on the platter is Myskina and if another player wants to nominate themselves for next week, go right ahead. Sometimes it is not personal and only fun. Afterall, how many tourneys were going on this past week?

I can understand the 'not personal' part... since everybody gets bashed...
but FUN??? :sad:
Can't you guys find another way to vent your boredom? :angel:

meyerpl
Jul 12th, 2005, 03:39 PM
That last post is a stroke of genius...clearly inspired. Well said. Deeply wierd and well put.

A thought for people who diminish Myskina's accomplishments by stating that the venue and/or surface etc. served to her advantage in her major wins: Imagine what she could accomplish if there was a Russian equivelant of the American hard-court season and a grand slam event in Moscow? In the world of international tennis, the deck isn't exactly stacked in her favor. Bottom line....they all deserve credit for what they accomplish, not derision.

Hey Spunky. Your nice words ("newbie of the year") are appreciated. I should be bowing down to you though. (I'm Lawrence BTW)