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Danke Anke
Jul 8th, 2005, 03:26 AM
:) Now come back to the tour.

Anna F'd Enrique
Jul 8th, 2005, 03:26 AM
oh my....

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:27 AM
Not surprising...

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:28 AM
But I still don't think she's ready for a return to the tour, she still lost to Meghann.

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:28 AM
I expected Hingis to win, but I thought that Nav would have won a couple of games!

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:29 AM
she beat catalina castano 6-1 6-0 at wimbledon nav Lol :P
lets go hingis

Danke Anke
Jul 8th, 2005, 03:30 AM
But I still don't think she's ready for a return to the tour, she still lost to Meghann.

true, but so have a lot of great players (venus, seles, to name a few). mind you meghann has been playing all year and martina hasn't. i think if she gives herself fully to tennis again she can def. come back.

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:30 AM

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:31 AM
AHHHHHHHH Martina Hingis!!! :hearts: my old flame... :kiss:
please come back to the tour. We miss u

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:31 AM
:eek: Hingis!!! :hearts: :bounce: :worship: :D

Danke Anke
Jul 8th, 2005, 03:31 AM
P.S. poor Monica must be feeling pretty shitty about losing to Martina *twice! in NZ :)

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:32 AM
Marti :woohoo:

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:35 AM
Go Martina

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:35 AM
Navvy. You suck. :(

Anyone see the match?

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:35 AM
if you think about it, Navratilova had nothing to hurt Hingis with. Even Hingis is more powerful.

Recipe for disaster for Nav

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:36 AM

I know it's Navratilova, but Martina N. also beat Chanelle Scheepers last night, and Scheepers is a top 200 player. Besides, I don't care who you are, you need to be playing well to shut out Martina Navratilova in a set...perhaps she's getting her singles groove back :)

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:41 AM
Date: Thursday, July 07, 2005http://www.worldteamtennis.com/images/blank.gifNew York Sportimes def. Boston Lobsters 23-13

Set ScoreNYSBOShttp://www.worldteamtennis.com/images/blank.gifMD:Kendrick/Merklein (NYS) def.
T. Blake/Chu (BOS)5-4(4)54http://www.worldteamtennis.com/images/dots_sched.gifMS:T. Blake (BOS) def. Kendrick (NYS)5-389http://www.worldteamtennis.com/images/dots_sched.gifWD:Hingis/Hopkins (NYS) def.
Bedanova/Navratilova (BOS)5-31312http://www.worldteamtennis.com/images/dots_sched.gifWS:Hingis (NYS) def. Navratilova (BOS)5-01812http://www.worldteamtennis.com/images/dots_sched.gifMX:Hingis/Merklein (NYS) def.
Chu/Navratilova (BOS)5-12313http://www.worldteamtennis.com/images/dots_sched.gifOTFINAL2313
Martina Hingis won the singles, doubles and mixed...pretty fair night I'd say!!:worship: :hearts: :kiss:


Jul 8th, 2005, 03:41 AM
a win is a win :)

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:46 AM

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:49 AM
I'm so depressed Navvy...stop losing! :sad:

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:50 AM
OF course Hingis would win. Nav is twice her age! What Nav can do, Hingis can do betters. Players who don't have power will get easily beaten by Hingis.

Jul 8th, 2005, 03:59 AM
Hingis lost to Shaughnessy 3-5

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:03 AM
Martina :cool:

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:06 AM
I am not surprised at all.

the only thing hingis is lacking is less power but she still has more than nav. its a recipie for a white wash. :rolleyes: martina was still playing tenis full time till 2002, what year did nav retire fromsingles full time like 94 or 95?????

i wouldnt look in o this result much at all...

Martian KC
Jul 8th, 2005, 04:08 AM
Wait, where's venusfan?

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:13 AM
Hey SM!...as far as I know, Martina Nav is still playing full time as a double player and sometimes mixed double on the tour, so we can't say that she's out of the game....Anyways, Im a bit surprised at the score, I thought Martina Nav would at least win a couple of game cause of her serve and volley can take some points off from Hingis, but how come ?...

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:21 AM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050708/capt.maea10107080017.world_team_tennis_maea101.jpg \

Nice jackets, Marti is looking at Navra with much admiration! I wonder if it rained, I heard the baseball game couldn't be completed in Boston because of the rain...they finished all the matches so guess they weren't affected by it at all. Thanks for posting the pic!:hearts: :worship:


Jul 8th, 2005, 04:23 AM

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:23 AM
Well done Hingus. With a bit more training and dedication she could easily return to the tour.

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:26 AM
Wow that is really cool!!! I hope she can come back!!

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:29 AM
Martina :D
Martina :(

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:30 AM
Not surprising

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:47 AM
I watched this match and I tell you that it wasn't even close. Martina N. got to only one game point in the whole set (pretty sure about that). Martina H. was hitting beautiful passing shots left and right. She also showed a nice touch with a drop shot. Her serve is still shaky (not much on it), but the rest of the game really impresses. Martina N. was also impressed a few times as she applauded to Martina H.

Jul 8th, 2005, 04:55 AM
c'mon people... the age gap alone tells the whole story!

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:04 AM
It's not really surprising although I wished Navi could have at least got a game or 2.

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:17 AM
Hingis medically can't come back, folks. Someone already threw a hissie about this in a nother thread a few days ago. We can fantasize, however...

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:18 AM
the problem of hingis for the tour its her forehand because her backhand is so effective against powerful shot

Mateo Mathieu
Jul 8th, 2005, 05:43 AM
Yawn, as expected...

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:44 AM
yeah, I notice her forehand was very uneffective when playing against hard hitting players

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:46 AM
Great job Martina (H) :)

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:48 AM
Wow, I didnt expect it that easily

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:54 AM
P.S. poor Monica must be feeling pretty shitty about losing to Martina *twice! in NZ :)
not really... when you consider monica resumed training without her air cast just 10 days before the first match they played.

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:56 AM
I wonder what Justine's RG win and Venus's Wimbledon win did to Martina Hingis. Justine proves that height doesn't matter, Venus proves that droughts can be banished....I bet Navratilova encouraged Hingis again to return at least once this week!

Jul 8th, 2005, 05:57 AM
Oh Martina H!!

So glad you won, but if you continue winning convincingly, I'm going to start hoping about a return even more...and that's just not healthy for me.

Jul 8th, 2005, 06:27 AM
So happy for MartinaH!!! I hope she returns and plays doubles with Navratilova! I'm sure they'll be a huge threat at slams!

btw, Hingis also won her other 2 matches!

TF Chipmunk
Jul 8th, 2005, 06:37 AM
:eek: destruction :eek:

Jul 8th, 2005, 08:17 AM
This is pretty embarassing, errr....Great job Martina!!!!! :D:):D

Jul 8th, 2005, 08:33 AM
come back Hingis

Jul 8th, 2005, 09:20 AM
:eek: Shock scoreline ..

Jul 8th, 2005, 09:30 AM
Martina :inlove:

Jul 8th, 2005, 09:30 AM
Oh Martina H!!

So glad you won, but if you continue winning convincingly, I'm going to start hoping about a return even more...and that's just not healthy for me.

I know :eek: She should just come back :tears:

Jul 8th, 2005, 10:03 AM
That's pretty impressive. Despite Nav's age, she still volleys better than any of the top women on tour, and is still one of the most tactically smart players around. To shut her out is a good effort.

Although, taking 3 games of Shaughnessy (who is a good player) is perhaps even more impressive.

Jul 8th, 2005, 10:19 AM
it would be very interesting if martina were to come back... seeing that the belgians are back on tour, so are the williams sisters, the russians are... also still here :lol:

Martian Willow
Jul 8th, 2005, 10:22 AM

Jul 8th, 2005, 10:47 AM
She definitely should comeback in doubles! :bounce:

Jul 8th, 2005, 11:43 AM
another nice win Marti, hope you can come back and play some doubles once in a while, though it's unlikely ;)

Jul 8th, 2005, 01:11 PM
:) Now come back to the tour.
Sign of greatness=defeating your grandmother. Kudos to Martina H:bowdown:

Jul 8th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Sign of greatness=defeating your grandmother. Kudos to Martina H:bowdown:You're a grandfather at 25? :tape:

Jul 8th, 2005, 01:31 PM
You're a grandfather at 25? :tape:
Nav is 25 or have you started inhaling that stuff again?:p

Jul 8th, 2005, 01:35 PM
Nav is 25 or have you started inhaling that stuff again?:p49 - 24 = 25 :p

Arithmetic, my dear Watson. Martina H isn't a baby.

Jul 8th, 2005, 01:53 PM
49 - 24 = 25 :p

Arithmetic, my dear Watson. Martina H isn't a baby.
My bad Einstein:p. Sign of greatness=beating your (grand)mother:bowdown:

Jul 8th, 2005, 02:05 PM
And Monica Seles lost to Navi a few months ago..shows where they stand as far as their game. I would be nice to see Hingis and Seles back...even if they do loose the first round.

Jul 8th, 2005, 02:12 PM
http://sports.bostonherald.com/otherSports...articleid=93019 (http://sports.bostonherald.com/otherSports/view.bg?articleid=93019)

Navratilova still won't slow down
By Karen Guregian
Friday, July 8, 2005 - Updated: 12:25 AM EST

All over the world, countless young girls were inspired to play tennis after watching Martina Navratilova, arguably the greatest women's player of all time.
Some, like Martina Hingis, were even named after her.
Hingis, of course, meticulously followed Navratilova's career path, and grew up to be the top-ranked player in the world. While their careers crossed paths on the circuit for a little more than a decade, remarkably they had never played a meaningful point against each other.

Until last night.
It was billed as the Battle of Martinas.
The incomparable 48-year-old legend vs. the 24-year-old former champ, who has come out of retirement to play World Team Tennis.
It had an odd dream-like quality to it, until they actually got on the court and the 24-year age difference hit you over the head like one of Johnny Damon's water balloons dropped from the top floor of the Ritz.
``That's the best I've played, and I still got whooped,'' sighed Navratilova, who didn't win a game in their singles match.
Navratilova did hit some of her patented serves and volleys, and gallantly chipped and charged her younger opponent. Hingis, however, didn't miss with her laser-like passing shots from both sides.
Of playing her idol, Hingis attempted to downplay the significance, given the stage of Navratilova's career.
``I know she just came from playing in the semifinals (in mixed doubles) at Wimbledon, but she's at the end of her career,'' Hingis said. ``You can't take (what I did) serious. I know people blew it up as a big thing. Hey, now everyone has seen it.''
Without question, the near-capacity crowd at Bright Arena came to see the duel, but mostly, they came to see the original Martina.
While people are in awe of the golfing exploits of 15-year-old Michelle Wie, there is also a wow factor with a near 50-year-old woman continuing to play competitive tennis - and add to her Hall of Fame resume.
She's still got game - even if the result of the Hingis match didn't suggest it.

I loved Navra when she said "That's the best I've played and I still got whooped!":eek: Knowing how very competitive Navra is (thats why she's still playing folks) I knew she'd fight "tooth and nail" to win this match:mad: but I liked the fact that Hingis downplayed the victory saying "but she's at the end of her career":worship:
So nice words from Marti and I'm sure she's pleased with her win despite the low-key venue! My two favorites!!:hearts: :kiss: :worship:


Jul 8th, 2005, 02:22 PM
Thank you, Miss Hingis! :banana:

Jul 8th, 2005, 02:29 PM
I think the most impressive thing was the two victories in doubles. Martina N. is obviously still capable of being a force in doubles and for my money, the greatest woman doubles player of all times. But I have long contended that Hingis is the second greatest woman doubles player of all times and last night, she clearly showed her stuff and without top flight partners, either.

Cliff Drysdale once said Hingis could pick her partner out of the stands and win a match and I don't think that's too much of an exaggeration. Hingis and Hopkins vs Naratilova and Bedanova would seem to be a pretty even match up, but Hingis walked away with it.

I think Hingis is proving in these WTT matches that she could come back and contend for slam doubles titles right out of the box. Of course, noone knows right now how her feet will hold up with constant play and practice.

I doubt that she'll do it, but it would be such a lift for tennis.

Jul 8th, 2005, 02:32 PM
I'm just happy that Marti is happy with playing WTT. If she can come back and play doubles full/part-time, that would be awesome! If she cant, then at least we can look forward to her playing more WTT or exhibitions in the future.

Jul 8th, 2005, 02:44 PM
nice comments from both...

martina nav probably meant best she has played in a while

Jul 8th, 2005, 06:38 PM

Match boiled down to the Martinas
By Bud Collins, Globe Correspondent | July 8, 2005

Martina peered across the net and into the eyes of . . . Martina.

And so, after 11 years of Martina Navratilova and Martina Hingis inhabiting the same world, this curious fairy tale in a tennis setting resulted at last in a collision last night on the banks on the Charles.

The once-upon-a-time factor: In 1980, a woman in Czechoslovakia names her newborn for the great Czech-grown champion

Navratilova, expecting greatness to strike again like lightning under her tutelage. Who could imagine that Melanie Hingis's dream would materialize, or that her prodigious protege would one day confront the original Martina?

But it happened, the full Martinazation of a court, the blue-tinted rectangle within Harvard's Bright Arena -- a faceoff with rackets in a hockey rink, although they weren't on their own as in triumphant times.

It was a World Team Tennis encounter of the newly resurrected Boston Lobsters and the New York Sportimes, won by Martina II and the visitors, 23-13. Won because Hingis was able to outplay her namesake in three events: singles, doubles, and mixed.

Fourteen years was too much to give away, even in the one-set sprints of WTT.

For Martina I, it was an uproarious homecoming -- for a while. Back in The Bean after a 27-year absence, once again in the uniform of the reconstituted Lobsters, she was loudly welcomed by a gathering of about 3,000, almost filling the place.

''I never thought I'd see her and the Lobsters again. It was wonderful even if they lost," said fan Marion Gale of Revere, who considers herself ''an original Lobsterian."

''It was great to be back," said Navratilova, a determined attacker but bageled in the singles, 5-0, by missing out on the key points. ''The crowd was terrific. I thought I played well, but Martina was very sharp, a fine tactician. Sure, I was curious to see how I could do against her."

So were the customers, who came from as far off as California. Tennis tour operators Steve and Anne Furgal of San Diego brought 50 of their friends from here and there to town for a lobster dinner and a Lobster boiling.

Martina II, off the tour for three years with a variety of injuries, had wondered ''for a long time" what it would be like to accost Martina I.

''It was cool. Coming to the net, she gave me a target" -- which Martina II bull's-eyed with a flock of flying passers.

Before the match, Hingis had predicted with a wink, ''Definitely the winner will be Martina."

Amid the raucous music and screaming for the Lobsters, Martina II ''thought I would be nervous, but I wasn't. I think this format of one-set matches is just right for me now."

They had watched each other for years. A good thing about WTT is that the brevity makes it possible for both Martinas to look good, show the stuff that made them great, provide an evening's entertainment.

When two old boys from the 'hood, ex-Harvard notables turned Lobsters Jon Chu and Tom Blake, held Mark Merklein and Robert Kendrick to a 5-4 win in doubles, and Blake beat Kendrick, 5-3, life was swell for the home side with a 9-8 lead.

But with Martinas I and II as the cleanup hitters in the remaining skirmishes, it was Hingis carrying the evening. She and Jennie Hopkins beat Navratilova and Daja Bedanova, 5-3. Then she and Merklein put the lid on the Lobster pot, 5-1.

Navratilova is contracted to the Lobsters for six matches. Having led Wednesday's 21-17 victory over the Delaware Smash, she will appear once more here, July 21 against Hartford.

Arrival and departure -- that was the theme 11 years ago on a rainy October night in Zurich. A child named Martina was making her debut as a professional tennis player, and a career woman named Martina was about to bid farewell.

Martina Hingis, 14, was coming and Martina Navratilova, 38, supposedly going.

The occasion was the European Indoor Championships, including both Martinas, and each won an early match. Martina I was complimentary: ''The kid's keeping the name in business."

Martina II remembers, ''We almost played each other shortly after that at Filderstadt, but I lost to Marianne Werdel, and she lost to Anke Huber the round before."

So they waited 11 years. WTT has preserved them nicely.

On her first visit to Boston, Hingis, a high school dropout, was most pleased. Not only did she get the better of Martina I, but, ''Now I can tell people I went to Harvard."

Really nice article by Bud!:worship: :D


Jul 8th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Martina has played essentially 3 sets of tennis 3 days in a row...just one of those sets was singles, but still...that's a pretty hefty load of tennis. I think her ankles are holding up.

Jul 8th, 2005, 06:54 PM
the problem of hingis for the tour its her forehand because her backhand is so effective against powerful shot

Martina's forehand was pretty sound, she wasn't great at hitting it effectively xcourt but her inside out and dtl forehands were things of beauty.

She had no trouble w/pace when she had time to set up for a shot off either side.

Jul 8th, 2005, 07:19 PM
Does anyone know the result of the Hingis/Novotna exhibition match at Eastbourne just before Wimbly? What I would do to see Martina H return!

Jul 8th, 2005, 07:54 PM
Still mean like a snake, then. :D :worship:

Jul 8th, 2005, 10:36 PM
I think the Eastbourne matches were mixed doubles and , in one case, doubles with Martina and Jana playing two men. So, they were definitely of the hit and giggles variety exhibition matches. I don't think they played a singles match.

Jul 9th, 2005, 04:01 AM
Well done Marti, we miss you girl!!! :bounce:

Jul 9th, 2005, 04:03 AM
Martinas Duel at Harvard

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As tennis great Billie Jean King looked on, two of the biggest names in the history of women’s tennis—Martina Navratilova and Martina Hingis—toed opposite service lines yesterday in the most unlikely of venues, Harvard’s Bright Hockey Center.

In its second home World TeamTennis (WTT) match, the Boston Lobsters fell 23-15 to the New York Sportimes at the Bright Center, which will be the Lobsters’ home arena for its three-week season.

WTT is a professional tennis league in its thirtieth year of existence, although this is the Boston Lobsters’ first year in the league since 1978.

The Sportimes’ victory hinged on Hingis, 24, who took down Navratilova, 48, in singles, women’s doubles, and mixed doubles sets. Hingis won 15 games to Navratilova’s 4.

“I thought I played pretty well,” Navratilova said, later adding, “It was the best I played, and I got whooped.”

Hingis’ strength was clearest in the women’s singles set, which she won 5-0. WTT rules provide for five events—men’s and women’s singles and doubles, and mixed doubles. Each match consists of one five-game set.

Although early in the singles match she fought hard for points, Navratilova—Sports Illustrated’s fourteenth greatest athlete of all time—barely broke into a match that never really went her way. Navratilova repeatedly struck a frustrated pose, jerking her head towards the rink’s wood-boarded ceiling and throwing up her arms in exasperation after double-faulting in her service game and returning volleys directly into the net.

Navratilova paired up with Daja Bedanova in women’s singles, putting up their best showing of their night early and advancing to an initial 2-0 set lead. New York rallied—and despite Navratilova’s athletic prowess, which she showed off with an improbable leaping cross-court backhand volley—won the set 5-3, as Hingis nailed a series of deep shots.

Navratilova’s age showed by her third set, a mixed-doubles contest played with Lobsters alternate Jonathan B. Chu ’05 that the twosome lost 5-1 to Hingis and Mark Merklein.

“She’s just such a good tactician. I had a lot of fun trying to find a way to beat her,” Navratilova said, summarizing her reaction to the day as “Energized by my game, disappointed by my result.”

Thomas J. Blake ’98 and Chu constituted a Harvard alumni duo in the evening’s first match, demonstrating strong game management early before succumbing in a sudden-death match tiebreaker to fall 5-4.

Blake, 6’5”, delivered Boston’s sole victory on the night, winning his last two games to defeat New York’s Robert Kendrick 5-3.

Marquee player and former Crimson standout James R. Blake, a member of the Class of 2001, will play against the Springfield Lasers on Monday.

WTT matches pit gender-balanced teams, and team scoring is cumulative of total game victories.

The match-up was the second of seven home games. The WTT season runs for three weeks, in which Boston will play 14 matches. Navratilova will play four more, including one at home on July 21.

The stadium was close to full, as 2,755 spectators paid for tickets at prices starting at $45. Primarily corporate-owned box seats ringed the court, which was centered in the rink.

A jazz band played at the pre-game tailgate, and the concession food was supplied by Legal Seafoods—including, cannibalistically, lobster salad.

And, thanks to a traditionally rowdy Boston fans, the Lobsters enjoyed a distinct home-team advantage in the matches.

The WTT format stripped the sport of some of its pedigree, and an announcer bellowed long calls reminiscent of televised Mexican soccer matches and played clips of Montell Jordan’s “This Is How We Do It” between sets. Fan participation is encouraged, and spectators whooped, clapped, and knocked noisemakers together before serves and between points.

Down 4-0 in her singles set, Navratilova played her home court, looking to the crowd and gesturing to solicit cheering.

Everyone, however, seemed to have trouble with Bright’s bright overhead lighting.

“It’s incredibly difficult to track the ball when you’re trying a toss-up on the serve,” Chu said. “You have to trust yourself and your timing.”

The overhead beams weren’t the only blinding lights for Chu, who shared the court with two of his sport’s legends.

“I grew up watching highlight videos of [Navratilova] playing center court at Wimbledon,” Chu said. “She’s as large as the game. It’s a dream come true.”

Chu hasn’t traveled far from last year, when he advanced to the NCAA semifinals wearing Crimson and after playing home matches mere yards from Bright.

“It certainly means a lot to come back and be here, and be with a great organization like the Boston Lobsters,” Chu said.

“This still feels like home,” he added.

After playing from 1974-1978, the Lobsters franchise returned to Boston this year.

Other big names in the league range from contemporary stars like Andy Roddick and 2005 Wimbledon women’s singles champion Venus Williams to legendary warhorses like Boris Becker and John McEnroe.

Last night’s match will be broadcast on delay on ESPN2 on Saturday at 11 p.m. —Staff writer Samuel C. Scott can be reached at sscott@fas.harvard.edu.

Jul 9th, 2005, 04:20 AM
I miss reading articles on Hingis playing tennis... great articles! Thanks for posting!

Jul 9th, 2005, 11:38 AM
Thanks for the articles!