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JennyS
Jul 7th, 2005, 03:54 AM
NOOO!!!!!

http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=3564075&nav=0RdWbqwA

selking
Jul 7th, 2005, 03:57 AM
shhhiiiiit

AjdeNate!
Jul 7th, 2005, 03:57 AM
:crying2:

F-R-E-A-K
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:00 AM
Udachi Lena Bovina :kiss:

Defend ur title! :D

Jen :sad:

i heart backhand
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:06 AM
Goddddddd. Will she ever come back?

Stamp Paid
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:08 AM
:D

XaDavK_Kapri
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:09 AM
Oh no :sobbing:

VeeDaQueen
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:09 AM
When will she lose her ranking?

JennyS
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:11 AM
What I don't understand is that during the French Open Mary Joe Fernandez said Jen had recovered and would be ready for the hardcourt season. Maybe she'll have a last second recovery and take a wildcard. I wonder if she'll play at all in 2005!!!

DAMN LABRUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bigshow21
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:13 AM
Shut the fuck up!!!! :mad: Man, this f*cking blows. I can't freaking believe this. Damnit!!! My whole week is ruined now. What the hell. She was supposed to play and be back and everything. I have waited 307 days to go back to the US Open. She sure as hell better be playing that. Gosh, damn! AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHh! :mad: :sad:

selking
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:12 AM
Shut the fuck up!!!! :mad: Man, this f*cking blows. I can't freaking believe this. Damnit!!! My whole week is ruined now. What the hell. She was supposed to play and be back and everything. I have waited 307 days to go back to the US Open. She sure as hell better be playing that. Gosh, damn! AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHh! :mad: :sad:

yea, my favorites seem to like to be injured. Try waiting over 2 years and counting.. oh god lets hope that doesnt happen. I miss the swearing and the fire in her eyes

Robbie.
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:13 AM
This is fucked up. :mad:

G1Player2
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:16 AM
If she isn't playing New Haven, no way will she be playing the US Open...

LefandePatty
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:33 AM
:bigcry:

Lady
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:46 AM
Shut the fuck up!!!! :mad: Man, this f*cking blows. I can't freaking believe this. Damnit!!! My whole week is ruined now. What the hell. She was supposed to play and be back and everything. I have waited 307 days to go back to the US Open. She sure as hell better be playing that. Gosh, damn! AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHh! :mad: :sad:

I just feel for you so much!!
That's horrible feeling. I remember how I felt when I found out that Justine is out of AusOpen.
You're waiting and waiting for your fave to return and then... :sad:

So sorry for all Jen fans!! :sad:

Sevenseas
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:58 AM
Oh nooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sad: :sad:

We are just getting tired of waiting here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :sad: :mad: :sad:

Jen, please get well soon and start playing again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VeeDaQueen
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:06 AM
On August 29, 2005, Jennifer Capriati will fall off the WTA Tour Rankings.

Slumpsova
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:35 AM
i don't think Jen will come back :sad: :crying2:

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:38 AM
I think she will come back at the US Open or sometime during the Indoor season. I really don't think that we have seen the last of her (on a tennis court)!

TF Chipmunk
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:48 AM
That's not good.

Stamp Paid
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:50 AM
On August 29, 2005, Jennifer Capriati will fall off the WTA Tour Rankings.

:drool:

Andrew..
Jul 7th, 2005, 12:50 PM
Get well soon Jenn. :(

This tournament field really blows now.

Beat
Jul 7th, 2005, 12:52 PM
no?! :(

sebbe
Jul 7th, 2005, 12:57 PM
To bad.

V-MAC
Jul 7th, 2005, 12:59 PM
well now ye Jennifer fans know how it feels for all us Chanda fans out there :(

Andrew..
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:00 PM
well now ye Jennifer fans know how it feels for all us Chanda fans out there :(
:o

JennyS
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:03 PM
Jen still has points from Philly.

You know as bad as this sounds, there is one tiny microscopic glimmer of hope. Notice that Jen pulled out of New Haven 7 full weeks before the start of that tourney, meaning she is certain she isn't ready to come back. BUT she hasn't pulled out of the USO also. Does anyone else find that weird?

BTW- a long recovery doesn't mean the outcome will be bad in the end. Apparently the labrum is the trickiest of all shoulder injuries to recover from. Many baseball pitchers are never the same. HOWEVER, the GOOD news is that Curt Schilling had the same injury and surgeon as Jen and the guy has played his best SINCE the surgery!

V-MAC
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:09 PM
:o
:eek: I hope you are not thinking that Chanda isn't in the same league as Jennifer :eek: ;)

Andrew..
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Jen still has points from Philly.

You know as bad as this sounds, there is one tiny microscopic glimmer of hope. Notice that Jen pulled out of New Haven 7 full weeks before the start of that tourney, meaning she is certain she isn't ready to come back. BUT she hasn't pulled out of the USO also. Does anyone else find that weird?
Not really. Alot of players wait as long as possible to pull from the slams.

*Karen*
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:24 PM
nooooooooo she's got to come back and win the us open :sad:

lindsayno1
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:29 PM
pah everyones getting injured again!

Serena, Lindsay, Jen!

Chunchun
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:33 PM
:awww: When is she coming back then?

Chunchun
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:33 PM
or she is going to become another Seles, or Kournikova :tape:

Daniela¤Forever
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:34 PM
Jennifer..:sad: This was SO not the thread I expected to see after being thrashed in the first round by a girl i could beat..:sad:

spartanfan
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:42 PM
7 weeks is very early to pull out for a tournament. Which means no US Open, but not a bad things after her poor sportswomanship at last years open. I do think she is going to be like Monica and Mary Jo Fernandez, leave the tour by injury and just never come back and never have an official retirement or anything.

kabuki
Jul 7th, 2005, 01:49 PM
:drool:

Way to be compassionate, Justin.

AliBoss
Jul 7th, 2005, 02:02 PM
Listen guys, if you just want to see Jennifer plays again, yes, you have to be sad, but if you are all sad because you ant her back to get titles, NO, it is too early for Jenny to be back to titles. I expect that we will see the titlest Jennifer in next Austrainlian Open 2006.

Mase
Jul 7th, 2005, 02:13 PM
Damn

Damn

and more

Damn..... :sad::sad:

TeamUSA#1
Jul 7th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Well this bit of news has ruined my day/week/summer :sad: :sad: FUCK!!! I seriously doubt she will play the USOpen with no prep, but I guess anything is possible... She has entered The Kremlin Cup in Moscow in September.... perhaps that is when she will be back????? GOD I MISS SEEING JEN PLAY!!!

GertAlert
Jul 7th, 2005, 02:30 PM
oooooh... that's to bad.... :sad: :sad: :sad:
I was so looking forward cheering for her again soon...

Get well soon Jen!!!!

JennyS
Jul 7th, 2005, 03:16 PM
Well, on the bright side. At leat Jen waited 15 years to get this kind of injury. Look at the players who get serious injuries in their late teens or early 20's.

Maybe we should be happy that Jen isn't rushing back. I mean, the shoulder surgery was just over 5 months ago. I remember when figure skater Tara Lipinski tore a labrum in her hip. She was told to stay off the ice for SIX months before even practicing and what did she do? She went back on the ice within weeks and now can't even skate any more! She'll probably need a hip replacement before she's 40.

Based on what I've read, Jen's recovery time is not slow for the type of injury and surgery she had. Look at football players. They tear their ACL in their knee- bye bye football season, see you in a year. There are so many players that are out for a full year when they suffer a torn knee ligament in football.

I think we're so accustomed to the 10-11 month tennis season, that a 7-8 month absesnce seems like an eternity, when in reality it isn't. Look how long it took Serena to come back from her knee surgery: 8 months. If Jen returns 8 months after her surgery that would be around the first week of October.

Anyway, I'm going to try to stay positive and know that she is better off waiting to be fully healed. She's already been out 3 full years during her career and didn't play a huge match load from 1996-1998. In tennis years, she's more like 24 or 25.

Jen will be back!

JennyS
Jul 7th, 2005, 03:56 PM
I found this bit of info:

Rehabilitation

You may enjoy walking, Stairmaster and stationary bicycle riding within one to
two weeks after surgery. Jogging, and regular bicycle riding can start two to three months after surgery, as can gentle golf strokes. Swimming, running, and tennis ground strokes start four to six months after surgery.

A return to overhead throwing, tennis strokes and contact sports require at least six months of rehabilitation, and a full return to competitive overhead sports requires 12 months. YOur return to weight lifting is unpredictable. You may need one full year before performing activities such as the bench press and you may never recover enough to lift heavy weights.

http://drgartsman.schipul.net/labrum_repair/index.asp

DevilishAttitude
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:45 PM
:drool:

I'd criticise you for the :D For the injury but I did that on MTF over Coria so I won't be a hypocrite.

Your probably jealous that Serena was not good enough to beat Jen often last year and that the rivalry has swung back in Jen's favour :D :tape:

I don't think Jen will play this year though now :sad: But I refuse any claims that's she's turning into Monica. Always!

G1Player2
Jul 7th, 2005, 04:50 PM
I'd criticise you for the :D For the injury but I did that on MTF over Coria so I won't be a hypocrite.

Your probably jealous that Serena was not good enough to beat Jen often last year and that the rivalry has swung back in Jen's favour :D :tape:

I don't think Jen will play this year though now :sad: But I refuse any claims that's she's turning into Monica. Always!

Oh please...Serena was COMING back from a serious injury last year which IMO is one of the reasons Jenn has the wins over Serena..Serena did not move as well and she was not at full physical fitness because of a rehabbing knee...Besides, even with this Serena drummed Jenn 6-1, 6-1 in a match...

A physically fit, non-injured, non-rehabbing Serena BEATS Jenn 9 out of 10 times...Remember, before Seren'as injury she had BEATEN Jenn 8 TIMES in a row...

:wavey:

TeamUSA#1
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:03 PM
Oh please...Serena was COMING back from a serious injury last year which IMO is one of the reasons Jenn has the wins over Serena..Serena did not move as well and she was not at full physical fitness because of a rehabbing knee...Besides, even with this Serena drummed Jenn 6-1, 6-1 in a match...

A physically fit, non-injured, non-rehabbing Serena BEATS Jenn 9 out of 10 times...Remember, before Seren'as injury she had BEATEN Jenn 8 TIMES in a row...

:wavey:


A win is a win..

A physically fit, non-injured, non-rehabbing Serena BEATS Jenn 9 out of 10 times...Remember, before Seren'as injury she had BEATEN Jenn 8 TIMES in a row...
...... problem is Serena is rarely playing at a 100% these days, and even when she was 100% (2002-03) Jen was the only player who could consistently push her to 3 sets---

TeamUSA#1
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:05 PM
Oh please...Serena was COMING back from a serious injury last year which IMO is one of the reasons Jenn has the wins over Serena..Serena did not move as well and she was not at full physical fitness because of a rehabbing knee...Besides, even with this Serena drummed Jenn 6-1, 6-1 in a match...

A physically fit, non-injured, non-rehabbing Serena BEATS Jenn 9 out of 10 times...Remember, before Seren'as injury she had BEATEN Jenn 8 TIMES in a row...

:wavey:


besides... Jen beat Serena at 3 months, 4 months, and 6 months after Serena won Miami upon her return---she obviously was NOT just returning from injury :tape:

G1Player2
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:08 PM
besides... Jen beat Serena at 3 months, 4 months, and 6 months after Serena won Miami upon her return---she obviously was NOT just returning from injury :tape:

No, Serena returned in late March/early April...They played in Rome just 6 eweeks after Serena returned and they played at Roland Garros 8 weeks after Serena returned...

G1Player2
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:10 PM
besides... Jen beat Serena at 3 months, 4 months, and 6 months after Serena won Miami upon her return---she obviously was NOT just returning from injury :tape:

Besides, when Jenn returns no doubt in my mind she'll suffer a string of losses to Serena MAINLY because she is still rehabbing from injury and just trying to get into the "flow" of things...Basically, PEAK Serena beats PEAK Jenn...When they were both in their PEAK Serena beat Jenn 8 times in a row...

Marie Waggedorn
Jul 7th, 2005, 05:37 PM
Jen just has to heal, that's all. She'll be back, tougher than ever. :D

serenafan08
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:16 PM
Your probably jealous that Serena was not good enough to beat Jen often last year and that the rivalry has swung back in Jen's favour :D :tape:
Uh, no. Jennifer doesn't have the weapons to compete with Serena, which is why she lost to her 8 straight times. The only reason that those matches are close is because Jennifer runs everything down and waits for Serena to make a mistake. How else can you win a three-set match with just 12 winners (that's how many winners Jennifer had @ the US Open last year against Serena)??? Jennifer just happened to be on the other side of the court when Serena beat herself, that's why she won three out of those four matches last year. If Serena would keep her unforced errors down, she would have won all those matches; the match at Wimbledon proves it. Jennifer at her best can't beat Serena at her best - Serena has even beaten an at-her-best-Jennfier on an off day. Serena always hits far more winners than Jennifer, and it's because she's got bigger weapons and uses them. The key to this rivalry is unforced errors. When Serena makes too many, Jennifer wins. Serena made 57 unforced errors at the US Open and somewhere in the 40s at the French Open, and as a result she lost. If Serena keeps the errors down, she wins. She only made 14 unforced errors at Wimbledon, which resulted in a routine victory. Besides, Jennifer is still 7-10 against Serena, so she still has some catching up to do.

Jennifer's weapons seem to have left her; now she just plays defense every match. Because the game has so many great players now, she can't expect to win when she's on the defensive all the time. I really hope that she's using this time off to develop her offensive game. That's why she lost in the US Open semifinals last year - she was way too defensive when she needed to go for it. She's going to have to go for it if she expects to win another major; she can't win playing defense all the time.

Jenny.C.Fan
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:19 PM
This is bad news, im not sure if we will see jen this year. Im glad she's not rushing back i just hope she will be able to play the open if not then just write this year off and start again next year.

serenafan08
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:24 PM
This is bad news, im not sure if we will see jen this year. Im glad she's not rushing back i just hope she will be able to play the open if not then just write this year off and start again next year.
That's the best suggestion I've heard. She should just rest until she's COMPLETELY healthy and come back next year. Serena at Wimbledon showed us what can happen if you're not fully in shape and recovered, so hopefully Jennifer will not rush things.

Stamp Paid
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:26 PM
I'd criticise you for the :D For the injury but I did that on MTF over Coria so I won't be a hypocrite.

Your probably jealous that Serena was not good enough to beat Jen often last year and that the rivalry has swung back in Jen's favour :D :tape:

I don't think Jen will play this year though now :sad: But I refuse any claims that's she's turning into Monica. Always!

LMAO, jealous? maybe if Jen had WON those slams when she beat Serena and not been humiliated each time. Myskina and Dementieva will always hold a place in my heart for those Semifinals against Capriati. :hearts: Especially Elena. Third set tiebreak, and a bagel. :drool:

Its not jealousy, I just hate Jennifer Capriati as a tennis player, much like a lot of people hate Serena Williams as a tennis player. She, like Serena, is one of those people you either like or dislike. And I hate her.

kabuki
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:28 PM
LMAO, jealous? maybe if Jen had WON those slams when she beat Serena and not been humiliated each time. Myskina and Dementieva will always hold a place in my heart for those Semifinals against Capriati. :hearts: Especially Elena. Third set tiebreak, and a bagel. :drool:

Its not jealousy, I just hate Jennifer Capriati as a tennis player, much like a lot of people hate Serena Williams as a tennis player. She, like Serena, is one of those people you either like or dislike. And I hate her.

Hater. :lol:

Sorry, but I think cheering health problems/injuries is in questionable taste, no matter who it is.

TeamUSA#1
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:30 PM
Uh, no. Jennifer doesn't have the weapons to compete with Serena, which is why she lost to her 8 straight times. The only reason that those matches are close is because Jennifer runs everything down and waits for Serena to make a mistake. How else can you win a three-set match with just 12 winners (that's how many winners Jennifer had @ the US Open last year against Serena)??? Jennifer just happened to be on the other side of the court when Serena beat herself, that's why she won three out of those four matches last year. If Serena would keep her unforced errors down, she would have won all those matches; the match at Wimbledon proves it. Jennifer at her best can't beat Serena at her best - Serena has even beaten an at-her-best-Jennfier on an off day. Serena always hits far more winners than Jennifer, and it's because she's got bigger weapons and uses them. The key to this rivalry is unforced errors. When Serena makes too many, Jennifer wins. Serena made 57 unforced errors at the US Open and somewhere in the 40s at the French Open, and as a result she lost. If Serena keeps the errors down, she wins. She only made 14 unforced errors at Wimbledon, which resulted in a routine victory. Besides, Jennifer is still 7-10 against Serena, so she still has some catching up to do.

Jennifer's weapons seem to have left her; now she just plays defense every match. Because the game has so many great players now, she can't expect to win when she's on the defensive all the time. I really hope that she's using this time off to develop her offensive game. That's why she lost in the US Open semifinals last year - she was way too defensive when she needed to go for it. She's going to have to go for it if she expects to win another major; she can't win playing defense all the time.


Well, if Serena only can beat herself then why even have an opponent on the other side of the court :confused: What a stupid ass arguement! You ever wonder why Serena makes so many errors when she plays Jen--- becasuse she cant overpower Jen like she does the other players--- Jen is too quick and too strong and can get to Serena's balls and send them back with interest. Sure Jen didnt have a lot of winners in her QF match against Serena last year at the USO--- Serena is quick and a good defensive player as well..... Serena often made the error after Jen got many, many balls back--- which means Jen was more consistent than Serena--- which, my dear, if you play tennis, you would know wins matches--- not the count of winners--- very, very few matches are ever won by winners alone--- it is who can be the most consistent while still being aggressive.

Every match Jen and Serena have played has been competitive, except for ONE where Jen just had an off day. And while Serena may have more wins than Jen does, no other player on the tour has more wins over Serena than Jen does.......

sartrista7
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:33 PM
Myskina and Dementieva will always hold a place in my heart for those Semifinals against Capriati.

6-2 6-2 in 61 minutes :drool:
Elena dropping only five points in the first set :drool:
Elena breaking back when Capriati served for the match :drool:

serenafan08
Jul 7th, 2005, 06:59 PM
Well, if Serena only can beat herself then why even have an opponent on the other side of the court :confused: What a stupid ass arguement! You ever wonder why Serena makes so many errors when she plays Jen--- becasuse she cant overpower Jen like she does the other players--- Jen is too quick and too strong and can get to Serena's balls and send them back with interest. Sure Jen didnt have a lot of winners in her QF match against Serena last year at the USO--- Serena is quick and a good defensive player as well..... Serena often made the error after Jen got many, many balls back--- which means Jen was more consistent than Serena--- which, my dear, if you play tennis, you would know wins matches--- not the count of winners--- very, very few matches are ever won by winners alone--- it is who can be the most consistent while still being aggressive.

Every match Jen and Serena have played has been competitive, except for ONE where Jen just had an off day. And while Serena may have more wins than Jen does, no other player on the tour has more wins over Serena than Jen does.......
I see your point. I do play tennis, so I understand the consistency argument very well. I'll agree with you on that one; Jennifer is more consistent than Serena; she'll put more balls in play. The difference is that Serena is more consistently AGGRESSIVE. Tennis isn't just about getting balls in play - you have to do something with it once you get it in play, and that's where Jennifer falls short. She caught herself playing defense all the time against Serena last year. Winners are a product of aggression, and it's apparent that Serena is the more aggressive of the two. If Serena didn't make so many mistakes, she would have won all those matches because she was going after her shots more than Jennfier was. That's what I'm saying. Most of the matches between these two lie in Serena's hands. Jennifer can't expect to keep winning if she's playing defense all the time. When you play defense against Serena, a lot of times you're going to lose - and Jennifer has. Let me see her beat Serena when she's going after her shots like she did in 2001, then I'll shut up. I don't understand the problem. Jennifer's a good athlete; she's strong, fast and has pretty good endurance. She used to be one of the best offensive players on tour when she was winning in 2001-02. Now, she plays not to lose instead of playing to win. Jennifer is not going to win many matches with that attitude. With the depth on tour right now, you've got to go after it when the chance presents itself.

TeamUSA#1
Jul 7th, 2005, 07:11 PM
I see your point. I do play tennis, so I understand the consistency argument very well. I'll agree with you on that one; Jennifer is more consistent than Serena; she'll put more balls in play. The difference is that Serena is more consistently AGGRESSIVE. Tennis isn't just about getting balls in play - you have to do something with it once you get it in play, and that's where Jennifer falls short. She caught herself playing defense all the time against Serena last year. Winners are a product of aggression, and it's apparent that Serena is the more aggressive of the two. If Serena didn't make so many mistakes, she would have won all those matches because she was going after her shots more than Jennfier was. That's what I'm saying. Most of the matches between these two lie in Serena's hands. Jennifer can't expect to keep winning if she's playing defense all the time. When you play defense against Serena, a lot of times you're going to lose - and Jennifer has. Let me see her beat Serena when she's going after her shots like she did in 2001, then I'll shut up. I don't understand the problem. Jennifer's a good athlete; she's strong, fast and has pretty good endurance. She used to be one of the best offensive players on tour when she was winning in 2001-02. Now, she plays not to lose instead of playing to win. Jennifer is not going to win many matches with that attitude. With the depth on tour right now, you've got to go after it when the chance presents itself.


Okay, okay...... I do think Jen plays the smartest, toughest game plan/strategy out there against Serena vs. everyone else. I think Jen lost those matches in 2002-2003 to Serena because she was trying to out gun Serena instead of using more strategy to beat her-- which is what she started doing last year. Jen isnt just moon balling balls back to Serena in her wins last year. She is hitting with pace, variety, and most importantly -- DEPTH. Jen is not going to beat Serena by going for angles/corners like she does against other players because Serena is too fast-- Jen beats Serena by centering the ball--- making Serena get out of her own way and by mixing her power with slice shots and heavy topspin shots--- you can't beat Serena by just giving her all pace--- she feeds on pace. You have to be quick and strong and have endurance to be able to absorb Serena's pace and then do something different with the ball.

I do think Jen needs to come forward more in her matches when she returns-- she has great volleys and she should be taking advantage of her huge groundstrokes by finishing the point at the net(she had some good success with this in 2001)

serenafan08
Jul 7th, 2005, 07:22 PM
Okay, okay...... I do think Jen plays the smartest, toughest game plan/strategy out there against Serena vs. everyone else. I think Jen lost those matches in 2002-2003 to Serena because she was trying to out gun Serena instead of using more strategy to beat her-- which is what she started doing last year. Jen isnt just moon balling balls back to Serena in her wins last year. She is hitting with pace, variety, and most importantly -- DEPTH. Jen is not going to beat Serena by going for angles/corners like she does against other players because Serena is too fast-- Jen beats Serena by centering the ball--- making Serena get out of her own way and by mixing her power with slice shots and heavy topspin shots--- you can't beat Serena by just giving her all pace--- she feeds on pace. You have to be quick and strong and have endurance to be able to absorb Serena's pace and then do something different with the ball.

I do think Jen needs to come forward more in her matches when she returns-- she has great volleys and she should be taking advantage of her huge groundstrokes by finishing the point at the net(she had some good success with this in 2001)
Great stuff. :yeah: Both of us came up with some good arguments, and I'm happy about that because I've often wondered what fueled the fire between these two. You're right about the pace with which Jennifer hits against Serena, but I would like to see her do that from inside the baseline - not five feet behind it!!! Imagine how great the matches between these two would be if they were both able to offensively attack when they wanted to!!! :hearts: If Jennifer was a few years younger, this could have been the fiercest and best rivalry since Evert-Navratilova. It already is fierce, but it doesn't have the longevity that Evert-Navratilova had.

I agree about Jennifer coming forward - I think everybody needs to use the net more!!!!! Jen should also be positive on the court - I think a lot of times she beats herself. She can get to the US Open finals, but the biggest opponent she faces is herself. If she can just believe, I think she'll breakthrough.

JenFan75
Jul 7th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Damnit >.<

bigshow21
Jul 7th, 2005, 07:46 PM
This is bad news, im not sure if we will see jen this year. Im glad she's not rushing back i just hope she will be able to play the open if not then just write this year off and start again next year.

Here we go again, Jen fans and Serena fans arguing. At least you two settled it fairly well there at the end. ;)

I totally agree with you Jenny.C.Fan! I am basically looking forward to her 2006 season. That way she will be healthy and physically fit (as long as everything goes as planned).

JennyS
Jul 7th, 2005, 08:12 PM
LMAO, jealous? maybe if Jen had WON those slams when she beat Serena and not been humiliated each time. Myskina and Dementieva will always hold a place in my heart for those Semifinals against Capriati. :hearts: Especially Elena. Third set tiebreak, and a bagel. :drool:

Its not jealousy, I just hate Jennifer Capriati as a tennis player, much like a lot of people hate Serena Williams as a tennis player. She, like Serena, is one of those people you either like or dislike. And I hate her.

HATE is such a strong word and there is too much of it in this world. Look at what happened in London today.

JennyS
Jul 7th, 2005, 08:14 PM
At this point, all I want to do is see Jen, even if that means as a commentator during the US Open. Can she please, please, please replace Mary Carillo? Mary's voice is sooo low, manly and annoying.

DevilishAttitude
Jul 7th, 2005, 08:22 PM
SVSK remember that Jen was hardly injury free herself for most of last year. Also Serena was never injured during her defeats against her.

serenafan08 if Jen had no weapons against Serena than she wouldn't have beaten her last year. Consisentsy = Match winner. Jen might not smack winner after winner against Serena but it's still good enough. And Jen seems good against Serena mentally.

Justin. Jen hardly humalited herself against Elena D :rolleyes: I have no defence for her performance against Myskina. Easily the most painful match I've saw her play. I don't like or dislike Serena although my opinion for her is closer to the latter. I don't think anyone doesn't have in between in terms of liking them or disliking them.

Stamp Paid
Jul 7th, 2005, 08:52 PM
Elena dropping only five points in the first set :drool:

Orgasmic. :drool:

Stamp Paid
Jul 7th, 2005, 08:57 PM
HATE is such a strong word and there is too much of it in this world. Look at what happened in London today.

I hate her as a tennis player, not as a person. Shes lovely in person. :hearts:

jenny161185
Jul 7th, 2005, 10:37 PM
im depressed there goes the USOpen

bello
Jul 7th, 2005, 11:30 PM
Fuck

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:sad:

VeeDaQueen
Jul 7th, 2005, 11:43 PM
Jen won't have a ranking :drool:

Stamp Paid
Jul 7th, 2005, 11:45 PM
Jen won't have a ranking :drool:

Uh Oh, Ive gotten 6 bad reps from that, let me know how many you get. :wavey::lol:

VeeDaQueen
Jul 7th, 2005, 11:50 PM
ok, Justin :wavey: ;)

VeeDaQueen
Jul 7th, 2005, 11:50 PM
Uh Oh, Ive gotten 6 bad reps from that, let me know how many you get. :wavey::lol:

but you have gotten a good rep from it, as well ;)

Stamp Paid
Jul 7th, 2005, 11:52 PM
but you have gotten a good rep from it, as well ;)

yes sir. :worship:

yukon145
Jul 8th, 2005, 12:46 AM
this fucking sucks! :sad: :sad: :fiery: i don't see Jenn being able to play the US Open the week after she pulled out of a tourny, it just doesn't make sense. i think Jenn should just bag this season, and finally head to the Aussie Open healthy for the first time since 2002. you know what happened then. :D

RedFilaJ-Cap#1
Jul 8th, 2005, 03:35 AM
I am so depressed I can't even post. I only had like 57 days left and what happens she probably won't even be there to play. I don't even know if I am up to going without her being there. I think I would rather just stay home or something. I really hate this injury and i feel real bad for all the fans who had to go through this with there favorite. I never knew it was this hard and it sucked this bad. I just hope Jen comes back when she is good and ready too. Even if it means we have to wait til next year I will wait as long as she comes back healthy!!

*roddicksinme*
Jul 8th, 2005, 03:50 AM
:hysteric: Jen!

tenn_ace
Jul 8th, 2005, 03:54 AM
Uh Oh, Ive gotten 6 bad reps from that, let me know how many you get. :wavey::lol:


only 6? damn :mad:

bigshow21
Jul 8th, 2005, 04:16 AM
Jen won't have a ranking :drool:

Why? Can I just ask why you do that?

I mean come on, I hate serena with all my passion but I hardly ever say anything bad on here to upset her fans. I at least act with respect. Jen just withdrew from a tournament and hasn't played the entire year, you could at least show some class and respect and be nice about it. sheesh!

JenCpLvr
Jul 8th, 2005, 12:07 PM
This is definitely a big disappointment, but as JennyS stated, maybe we should be happy that she's not coming back yet as it could be risking a career end.

I pray that she comes back healthy, whenever she does. No one hates to see draws without her more than me, but she needs to come back feeling her best. I really hope that she's using this off time to become fit as she did in 2001.

We all know what happens when Jen is the underdog and faces no pressure.

Here's to hoping the thrashing starts over again soon! :bounce:

JenCpLvr
Jul 8th, 2005, 12:11 PM
Why? Can I just ask why you do that?

I mean come on, I hate serena with all my passion but I hardly ever say anything bad on here to upset her fans. I at least act with respect. Jen just withdrew from a tournament and hasn't played the entire year, you could at least show some class and respect and be nice about it. sheesh!

She/He can't help that they're a fan of the most pompous woman in professional tennis... It's a tough job, so cut 'em some slack. ;)

vettipooh
Jul 8th, 2005, 12:24 PM
Why? Can I just ask why you do that?

I mean come on, I hate serena with all my passion but I hardly ever say anything bad on here to upset her fans. I at least act with respect. Jen just withdrew from a tournament and hasn't played the entire year, you could at least show some class and respect and be nice about it. sheesh!Why would you say you hate Serena with all your passion, and then ask someone to respect your fav????:confused: Anyway, as a non fan, I sincerely hope Jen's shoulder heals 100% to allow her to return to the tour. We just can't seem to have all the favs and top competitors, healthy at once. Jen is missed and nothing but sympathy extended to her fans. There was hope, as I said in another thread, when I saw her on that billboard, with the caption saying "The Come Back Queen", playing at New Haven. Hopefully she might surprise you guys and show up at US open.