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ClaudiaZ-S
Jul 4th, 2005, 02:02 PM
A list of 16 players was great but now it's only 8 women who can go to the masters!!!

crazillo
Jul 4th, 2005, 02:08 PM
I definitely liked the old format better. But espacially the doubles format is a joke!!!

ClaudiaZ-S
Jul 4th, 2005, 02:12 PM
I definitely liked the old format better. But espacially the doubles format is a joke!!!

4 teams :rolleyes: :eek:

vw.
Jul 4th, 2005, 03:24 PM
16 women..
It would give someone who deserves to be in the championships, who's ranking is lower, a chacne to do some damage.

ToeTag
Jul 4th, 2005, 03:27 PM
It should have never been changed or moved. I also want the best of 5 final back too!!

16 women
in New York
best of 5

Thanks. :wavey:

Mateo Mathieu
Jul 4th, 2005, 03:29 PM
It should have never been changed or moved. I also want the best of 5 final back too!!

16 women
in New York
best of 5

Thanks. :wavey:
I second that! Imagine that Venus Williams v injury-free Lindsay Davenport :eek:

Tati & Dani
Jul 4th, 2005, 03:38 PM
16 is better

VS Fan
Jul 4th, 2005, 04:00 PM
I like the round robin elimination format they have now. This produces a formidile final four that then play semis and the final in the normal single elimination format.

Declan
Jul 4th, 2005, 04:05 PM
It should have never been changed or moved. I also want the best of 5 final back too!!

16 women
in New York
best of 5

Thanks. :wavey:


It was originally 8 back in the 70s when I started following tennis.

CooCooCachoo
Jul 4th, 2005, 04:11 PM
It should have never been changed or moved. I also want the best of 5 final back too!!

16 women
in New York
best of 5
Thanks. :wavey:

Not in New York. I find it absolutely ridiculous that this event should be held in one city every year. Rotation gives more people the chance to see these unique championships.

Tati & Dani
Jul 4th, 2005, 04:16 PM
In europe pls then i have my sleep :p

Madrid :yeah:

Doc
Jul 4th, 2005, 04:23 PM
8 and a Round Robin is better.

It makes for a more interesting and exciting tournament.

Back in the days of 16 players, the event was a bore and was getting lower and lower interest. It was just like a well attended Tier 1 or 2 event. The first rounds were a predictable bore. And there was nothing to separate it in style from any other WTA event.

The Round Robin format brings the elite players together, creates interest in the run-up to the event, as to who is or is not going to qualify, and allows a much bigger selection of players to meet each other, who might never do normally. I also like the fact that its not just one loss and you're out of there until the latter rounds.

The RR makes the YEC different - and it needs that.

skanky~skanketta
Jul 4th, 2005, 04:27 PM
i like the format now because we are guaranteed of seeing the top 8 compete in their round robins.

ToeTag
Jul 4th, 2005, 04:37 PM
It was originally 8 back in the 70s when I started following tennis.
:)
Was it. I didn't start following tennis until the 80's, when Gaby came along, and it was 16. Were the finals in the 70's b/5 as well?

Lady
Jul 4th, 2005, 04:44 PM
i like the format now because we are guaranteed of seeing the top 8 compete in their round robins.

Exactly. If Justine & Serena could be in the same group, that would be like the only chance of them playing each other. ;)

Andy T
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:35 PM
None of the above! I'd like 4 round robin groups of 3 (with guaranteed places for the winners of hte slams) with the winner of each group going to the knockout semis.

kabuki
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:40 PM
Round Robin :hearts:

cartmancop
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:41 PM
I like the Round Robin better, b/c it allows for players to have a crappy day & still survive if they are the best overall.

I'm also 'ok' with 8 players b/c it makes getting into the YEC harder & means that much more for players on the brink. I didn't like the 16 b/c many of the 1R matches were predictable and/or blowouts. I like seeing the top 8 play multiple matches against each other that have the potential to provide great matches throughout the tournament.... I think the site should rotate every year though...is that the plan now, or will it stay in Spain for a while??

WorldWar24
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:43 PM
None of the above! I'd like 4 round robin groups of 3 (with guaranteed places for the winners of hte slams) with the winner of each group going to the knockout semis.

That would be much better :D Then we'd have plenty of matches between the top16 players.

andrewbroad
Jul 30th, 2005, 02:31 AM
In the last five Grand Slams, we've had champions seeded #13, #9, #7, #10 and #14. So it's never been more appropriate to have a 16-draw for the WTA Tour Championships. Eight is too exclusive, and IMO always has been since they changed the format.

I don't like the round-robin format either. I think it's inappropriate to a tournament that carries ranking-points. I would prefer a straight knockout with 16 players.

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RenaSlam.
Jul 30th, 2005, 03:09 AM
16 was much better...

kabuki
Jul 30th, 2005, 03:12 AM
Round Robin Rocks!!!

Tripp
Jul 30th, 2005, 03:42 AM
Round Robin is OK for singles, although I prefer the old format. But a 4 teams doubles Year Ending Championship is a real joke. I mean, come on, we have 3 matches (3!!) in the whole tournament :mad:

~ The Leopard ~
Jul 30th, 2005, 03:44 AM
I'm a convert to the "new" RR format. It produces a special kind of intrigue and excitement as players jockey for positions in the final four.

tennnisfannn
Jul 30th, 2005, 04:01 AM
In the last five Grand Slams, we've had champions seeded #13, #9, #7, #10 and #14. So it's never been more appropriate to have a 16-draw for the WTA Tour Championships. Eight is too exclusive, and IMO always has been since they changed the format.

I don't like the round-robin format either. I think it's inappropriate to a tournament that carries ranking-points. I would prefer a straight knockout with 16 players.

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totally agree, a few years ago when we had 16 players, it was only the top 5 that had ay chance of winning, now the list is bigger than that, consider now we still have players like kim, patty and alicia still ranked outside the top 10 not to mention jen. The top 14 is as strong as anyone has ever since in a long time.

Volcana
Jul 30th, 2005, 04:04 AM
How many years were 16 players in the YEC?

Gotta admit I favor only letting in eight players. Venus didn't get in last year, which I naturally thought sucked, but I still like eight players. it makes a spot inthe YEC something to compete for among the best players. With 16, they almost all knew they'd get in even with substandard years.

Like the round-robin too.

VeeDaQueen
Jul 30th, 2005, 04:09 AM
I've always believed that when you lose, you're OUT. You shouldn't get a second chance. I like the 16-player format that they had.

DragonFlame
Jul 30th, 2005, 04:58 AM
i voted for 16 but know that i read all i like roundrobin more^^ especially because it gives the best chance of serena versus justine :hearts:

thelittlestelf
Jul 30th, 2005, 06:27 AM
I voted for the 16 too, but I honestly don't care. It's almost always fun to watch no matter what format it is.

*Jool*
Jul 30th, 2005, 08:49 AM
I liked the old format better

William Hunt
Jul 30th, 2005, 09:05 AM
8 is ridiculous , it should be at least 16

gmak
Jul 30th, 2005, 09:43 AM
definitely the old format is better because the competition is so much stronger than it was in the past... just check out this list:

1.Davenport
2.Sharapova
3.Mauresmo
4.Kuznetsova
5.Henin-Hardenne
6.Dementieva
7.S.Williams
8.Petrova

9.Myskina
10.V.Williams
11.Molik
12.Schnyder
13.Pierce
14.Clijsters


who said boring matches? :drool: :drool:

+ whoever loses 1 match is OUT, that's fair enough to me! ;)
+ no meaningless matches ( like maria-amelie last year ) :rolleyes:

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 30th, 2005, 09:57 AM
How about 16 and then a round robin for the final 8?

Smarty-UK
Jul 30th, 2005, 11:33 AM
8 and a Round Robin is better.

It makes for a more interesting and exciting tournament.

Back in the days of 16 players, the event was a bore and was getting lower and lower interest. It was just like a well attended Tier 1 or 2 event. The first rounds were a predictable bore. And there was nothing to separate it in style from any other WTA event.

The Round Robin format brings the elite players together, creates interest in the run-up to the event, as to who is or is not going to qualify, and allows a much bigger selection of players to meet each other, who might never do normally. I also like the fact that its not just one loss and you're out of there until the latter rounds.

Totally agree with this statement! Having the 8-player format means it gives the players in the bottom half of the top 10 something to aim for during the autumn indoor season.

LefandePatty
Jul 30th, 2005, 12:01 PM
How about 16 and then a round robin for the final 8?

AWESOME! :worship:

Andy.
Jul 30th, 2005, 12:24 PM
The top 16 format was better but a round robin system for the final 8 is an awesome idea

Helen Lawson
Jul 30th, 2005, 01:10 PM
I liked Top 16 a lot better. Plus, round robin is for losers, straight elimination is the only way.

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 30th, 2005, 01:21 PM
the Masters should be exactly what it is, the Masters

difficult to qualify for

the WTA should just change the rule of their stupid race where EVERY tourn of the calendar yr counts :rolleyes:

8 player field is much much better.
You get some match-ups you probably never get in 2-3 yrs on normal tour :rolleyes:

Shonami Slam
Jul 30th, 2005, 01:50 PM
nothing to add - 16.

^bibi^
Jul 30th, 2005, 01:54 PM
16 of course, 8 is so stupid... i'll never understand why they changed...

GoDominique
Jul 30th, 2005, 01:58 PM
8.

Elldee
Jul 30th, 2005, 02:03 PM
I'm not a fan of RR since Lindsay was 2-1 and still got dumped out. The LA surface is too slow as well!