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LethalLindsay
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:38 AM
Although Lindsay has a lot of points to defend this summer, she is now 1200 points clear of Sharapova! Woo-Hoo! Nice buffer zone there!

lindsayno1
Jul 4th, 2005, 08:59 AM
not really... lindsay has shed loads of points comin off this summer, whereas maria doesnt have a lot to defend. theres a tourney b4 US open (cant remember which), where she will lose her points where she won cos she aint playing. Lindsays already said shes gonna lose no1 ranking soonish....

foreva lindsay
Jul 4th, 2005, 09:36 AM
negative the whole time arent ya ;) ^^

lindsayno1
Jul 4th, 2005, 11:48 AM
negative the whole time arent ya ;) ^^


Me?!?!!? I think you've got me confused with Andrew ;)

foreva lindsay
Jul 4th, 2005, 12:00 PM
:haha: might have done :p

lindsayno1
Jul 4th, 2005, 12:22 PM
:haha: might have done :p


Cheeky!!! lol!



Lindsay to win US open :angel::angel::angel:

Andrew..
Jul 4th, 2005, 01:13 PM
LethalLindsay is right.

If Lindsay plays NOTHING this summer, she has #1 through at least San Diego. She hasn't lost before the final of a trournament in California since San Diego 2003. Make the SF at all the tournaments, and she likely keeps #1.

Andrew..
Jul 4th, 2005, 01:14 PM
negative the whole time arent ya ;) ^^
At least my "negative" facts are correct, unlike some people's.

foreva lindsay
Jul 4th, 2005, 01:45 PM
At least my "negative" facts are correct, unlike some people's.

calm down...i wasnt talking about you!! :lol:

Kelly
Jul 4th, 2005, 01:55 PM
is it cinci she isnt playing? she shouldnt have played it last year...to much tennis but thats lindsay for you....hopefully she win 7 in a row with no injurys at the US Open

bis2806
Jul 4th, 2005, 03:36 PM
What tournament is she not playing? I'm dying to know.

RayRob
Jul 4th, 2005, 07:16 PM
At least my "negative" facts are correct, unlike some people's.

:lol: LMAO andrew!!!! "negative facts"?!?! So, "lindsay will lose to Kim!" (RG & Wimbledon) were negative facts?! More like negative opinions ;) All in good fun mate :P

-Rache

lindsayno1
Jul 4th, 2005, 07:19 PM
LMAO! WTG rache!! why arent u on msn!?

LindsayRocks89
Jul 4th, 2005, 07:22 PM
even if she does lose it i believe she will get it back again by the end of the year.

lindsayno1
Jul 4th, 2005, 07:23 PM
is it cinci she isnt playing? she shouldnt have played it last year...to much tennis but thats lindsay for you....hopefully she win 7 in a row with no injurys at the US Open


yeah shes not playing cincinnati

shes playin stanford and somewhere else *cant remember where*

Andrew..
Jul 4th, 2005, 10:16 PM
:lol: LMAO andrew!!!! "negative facts"?!?! So, "lindsay will lose to Kim!" (RG & Wimbledon) were negative facts?! More like negative opinions ;) All in good fun mate :P

-Rache
I'll rephrase. I provided negative facts to support my opinion.

Thanks.

Andrew..
Jul 4th, 2005, 10:16 PM
calm down...i wasnt talking about you!! :lol:
And I wasn't talking about you either. ;)

Andrew..
Jul 4th, 2005, 10:17 PM
yeah shes not playing cincinnati

shes playin stanford and somewhere else *cant remember where*
She is playing Stanford, Los Angeles, La Costa, and will probably take a wildcard into New Haven.

LethalLindsay
Jul 5th, 2005, 03:34 AM
It's irrelevant all this discourse about it. For Lindsay to lose 1200 oints would be for her to lose EVERY tournament this summer in the first round and for Maria to make finals in the same ones!
Does anyone think that is going to happen?

RayRob
Jul 5th, 2005, 12:34 PM
I'll rephrase. I provided negative facts to support my opinion.

Thanks.

That's better ;) :D

-Rache

lindsayno1
Jul 5th, 2005, 12:46 PM
That's better ;) :D

-Rache


lol! :lol:

Lady
Jul 5th, 2005, 12:49 PM
It's irrelevant all this discourse about it. For Lindsay to lose 1200 oints would be for her to lose EVERY tournament this summer in the first round and for Maria to make finals in the same ones!
Does anyone think that is going to happen?

Lindsay losing in the 1st round of hard-court tourny?
No way.

rightous
Jul 5th, 2005, 12:53 PM
Yeah she is playing San Diego, Stanford but I would be shocked if she didn't get a WC into New Haven, she has a good chance to hold onto the number 1 ranking up to the US Open

lindsayno1
Jul 5th, 2005, 12:53 PM
ha, pigs might fly ;)

lindsay losing first round of a hard court tourney is like saying i will win the lottery jackpot 4 weeks in a row....aint gonna happen!

Andrew..
Jul 5th, 2005, 02:02 PM
Anna was the last player to beat Lindsay in the opening match of a California hardcourt tournament. Her last 1r loss on a hardcourt was to Sugiyama in Scottsdale 2003.

LindsayRocks89
Jul 5th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Anna was the last player to beat Lindsay in the opening match of a California hardcourt tournament. Her last 1r loss on a hardcourt was to Sugiyama in Scottsdale 2003.

i feel confident saying more than likely Lindsay will be in the semis or finals of every summer tournament she plays.

wkchiang
Jul 5th, 2005, 04:15 PM
It's irrelevant all this discourse about it. For Lindsay to lose 1200 oints would be for her to lose EVERY tournament this summer in the first round and for Maria to make finals in the same ones!
Does anyone think that is going to happen?

It's not easy for Maria to take No.1 from Lindsay this summer. First of all, you all know Lindsay hardly lost early in HC tournaments, and Lindsays gets 1200- leads. Secondly, Maria has 20 tournaments, she needs to do a *lot* of better than her #18, #19, #20 to increase her total points, which means she might need to make at least semi of all the tournaments she plays to *catch up* Lindsay.

BTW, I don't think being No.1 or No.2 will effect the chance of winning US Open. ALl Lindsays needs is a good drawing which, JHH meets Clijsters plus Vee meets Serena in the qua... :lol:

foreva lindsay
Jul 5th, 2005, 05:23 PM
And I wasn't talking about you either. ;)

good good ;)

Lindsayfan32
Jul 6th, 2005, 10:04 AM
It won't happen as Maria is not playing Standford but will play in San Diego as for the LA tournment who knows. The commitment list for the top ten for the next three tournements is on the WTA site. Any if you're a true Lindsay fan you shouldn't give a wit about her ranking but I will admit it would be nice for her to stay there as long as possiable, maybe even end the year number 1 and win the US open.


Vicki

Frederic
Jul 7th, 2005, 09:26 AM
Well, I don't think Lindsay will be so confident for the US open if she loses in the final or in the semis against Venus for example. I just hope she will win all the tournaments like she did last year!!!

Jan
Jul 27th, 2005, 07:11 AM
I think Lindsay will hang on to the number 1 ranking. Even if Maria does exceptionally well Linds would have to do really bad I reckon to lose it. I would love her to be seeded 1 at the US, but even if she is seeded 2 thats not so bad. Lets be a bit more POSITIVE guys. This thread is getting really negative. WE are here to support here Win or Lose!

Lets Go Linds:angel:

Lindsayfan
Jul 27th, 2005, 07:28 AM
maria withdrew from san diego so lindsay has a better chance to keep her n.1 ranking. i do hope she stays n.1 til the end of the year and close the year as n.1 :cool:

lindsayno1
Jul 27th, 2005, 07:54 AM
maria withdrew from san diego so lindsay has a better chance to keep her n.1 ranking. i do hope she stays n.1 til the end of the year and close the year as n.1 :cool:


Why?!

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 27th, 2005, 08:54 AM
maria withdrew from san diego so lindsay has a better chance to keep her n.1 ranking. i do hope she stays n.1 til the end of the year and close the year as n.1 :cool:

It's great news for Lindsay fans. I was starting to worry that Lindsay might not ever be the number one seed at the US Open.
It looks like she'll be number one at the US Open as long as she stays healthy.
With the way things are going now, Lindsay could be the number one seed at 5 straight slams.

sweet_angel23
Jul 27th, 2005, 09:34 AM
that's gr8...

my idol is still n.1!!!!

\m/ rock on Lindsay

Elldee
Jul 27th, 2005, 09:40 AM
It's great news for Lindsay fans. I was starting to worry that Lindsay might not ever be the number one seed at the US Open.
It looks like she'll be number one at the US Open as long as she stays healthy.
With the way things are going now, Lindsay could be the number one seed at 5 straight slams.

Yeah, let's hope SHE gets to Stanford, San Diego and LA. If Lindsay's the top seed will she play on the first day?

No reasons given by Sharapova, I'm not even 100% sure if it's true. Was it from her official website?

Andrew..
Jul 27th, 2005, 01:49 PM
This is big for Lindsay.

The majority of Lindsay's points are off. San Diego is coming off this week, but it being replaced by Stanford. After that, she has two weeks to just gain. Cincy title really isn't very important. She got like 30 bonus points there.

Elldee
Jul 27th, 2005, 01:53 PM
If she's uninjured, she should hold onto the top sport. Similarly, a lot of the big guns are playing Toronto with Sharapova so she might not even do that well there. I really want Lindsay to keep it for a while longer.

Andrew..
Jul 27th, 2005, 01:59 PM
If she's uninjured, she should hold onto the top sport. Similarly, a lot of the big guns are playing Toronto with Sharapova so she might not even do that well there. I really want Lindsay to keep it for a while longer.
Now that Lindsay is playing next year, I really want her to break 100 weeks. She needs 21 more. If she can get the year end #1 spot, she should break that.

Elldee
Jul 27th, 2005, 03:03 PM
After the US Open she has Filderstadt to defend but then not a lot. She beat Safina and Schiavone in Moscow - which I think is too slow for her - and then lost to Myskina; I think she should [and will] play Linz, and then Philli would suit her game but she might want a break. I really hope she takes next years championships much more seriously; if she'd beaten Myskina or taken a set it could have been very different.

Andrew..
Jul 27th, 2005, 03:26 PM
After the US Open she has Filderstadt to defend but then not a lot. She beat Safina and Schiavone in Moscow - which I think is too slow for her - and then lost to Myskina; I think she should [and will] play Linz, and then Philli would suit her game but she might want a break. I really hope she takes next years championships much more seriously; if she'd beaten Myskina or taken a set it could have been very different.
She's already committed to Phili. They msut be paying her to show.

The YEC pissed me off last year. Oh well. She can gain there, too.

Andrew..
Jul 27th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Actually, her fall schedule looks like this:

Filderstadt
Moscow*
Zurich
Philadelphia
YEC

Moscow committments aren't out yet, but I assume she'll play. I also think she'll go to either Beijing or Luxembourg. Too long of a break after the US Open without one of them, and Beijing is paying out big appearance fees.

Jan
Jul 28th, 2005, 07:22 AM
If she's uninjured, she should hold onto the top sport. Similarly, a lot of the big guns are playing Toronto with Sharapova so she might not even do that well there. I really want Lindsay to keep it for a while longer.

So do I, and I think she will:worship:

Elldee
Jul 28th, 2005, 08:59 AM
Actually, her fall schedule looks like this:

Filderstadt
Moscow*
Zurich
Philadelphia
YEC

Moscow committments aren't out yet, but I assume she'll play. I also think she'll go to either Beijing or Luxembourg. Too long of a break after the US Open without one of them, and Beijing is paying out big appearance fees.

I love that schedule because I think she can win Filderstadt, Zurich and Philli. The courts are so good for her, I was watching last year and just thinking 'why is Lindsay ill!?'

She didn't played between Filderstadt and the US Open last year, but her heart was ripped from her chest last year so that's understandable!

lindsayno1
Jul 28th, 2005, 01:15 PM
she was really poorly at moscow wasnt she :(

Kelly
Jul 28th, 2005, 03:41 PM
i cant see lindsay wanting to fly out to beijing to play...but if the moneys good why not. depending on how she does at the us open i think will play a large part in her scheduale. i am hoping for a better season end tourney she at least knows how it works now...just dont drop a set lol

Elldee
Jul 28th, 2005, 04:51 PM
Andrew, Lindsay committed to Beijing TODAY. Or I at least read it today. Spooky, but cool.

!<blocparty>!
Jul 28th, 2005, 06:29 PM
I just want a USO win. If she gets that, watch out everyone else for the indoor season :cool:

She can do it, fuck all the people who doubt. (including me in the past) :)

lindsayno1
Jul 28th, 2005, 07:50 PM
USO indeed! She best win it so im not so hot on sittin up at 4am watching the AO final again!!!

Elldee
Jul 28th, 2005, 10:20 PM
Both Sharapova [ironically with a lower back strain... is that irony? Decide for yourself] and Serena are out of San Diego meaning Lindsay has to be the favourite to win and keep herself on top. Clijsters will be tricky though.

Elldee
Jul 28th, 2005, 11:00 PM
Lindsay's currently crashing out of Stanford. That won't help her cause or the next few weeks.

RayRob
Jul 28th, 2005, 11:31 PM
Yeah, well Lindsay ended retiring from her R2 match at Stanford....Maria being out will help Lindsay's cause a bit even if Lindsay doesn't play Acura, but really I don't care much for the ranking, I'd rather Lindsay be fit. She will surely be one of the two top seeds at the USO.....the only thing that will be annoying is that Lindsay is likely to lose #1 because of injury and not because Maria has played more/advanced futher in events than Lindsay.

Maria has some to come off, but not much as she had a poor US hard court season.

Just want Lindsay to be fit.....

-Rache

LethalLindsay
Jul 29th, 2005, 12:42 AM
What is it with the bad luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

US Open 2004 - Hip Flexor injured during practise one hour before semi-final match. (NOT CHOKE!)

Australian Open - Too much play and almost falls down exhausted in the singles final (NOT CHOKE!)

Wimbledon - Lower back strain during the final. (NOT CHOKE!)

US Open Series - Aforementioned Lower Back Strain (NOT CHOKE!)

(Now did you get all those NOT CHOKES! LOL!)

wkchiang
Jul 29th, 2005, 12:52 AM
Andrew, Lindsay committed to Beijing TODAY. Or I at least read it today. Spooky, but cool.

Wow! This is bizzare. Unlike Williams sisters, Lindsays didn't travel far for playing 1 tournament (or you can say 1 week) then fly back to US immediately. OK, I know she played Dubai earlier this year - which I thought the reason is, she still planed to retired by the end of this year at that time - so, why not travel to someplace she's never been? Now this Beijing thing comes. Hmm...

I read a report about how hard was German Open trying to get Lindsay play for their final year there but failed.

wkchiang
Jul 29th, 2005, 12:55 AM
Australian Open - Too much play and almost falls down exhausted in the singles final (NOT CHOKE!)
Wimbledon - Lower back strain during the final. (NOT CHOKE!)


Actually these 2 were. I am still mad at these 2 matches. :mad:
Thw 2004 US Open I'll agree it's bad luck.

LethalLindsay
Jul 29th, 2005, 01:21 AM
Actuallky none of them were but you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong they are.

416_Man
Jul 29th, 2005, 02:06 AM
If Lindsay is too withdraw from San Diego and Los Angeles due to the lower back strain and a week to get match fit, will she enter either Toronto or New Haven to get some match practise under her belt?

jacs
Jul 29th, 2005, 03:24 AM
I doubt she'll play toronto as, for some reason, she feels that the conditions are not good for her and may aggravate her injury.

Elldee
Jul 29th, 2005, 10:25 AM
I think she'll be okay going in cold, but she NEEDS to get this injury completely gone and not just try to wing it. If she couldn't win a game today I can't understand why she'd even think of entering San Diego.

Kelly
Jul 29th, 2005, 02:32 PM
i checked text on my tv this morning as i was thinking 'oh no!'...knew the back was worse than she was letting on. did anyone see it...how did she look?

RayRob
Jul 29th, 2005, 09:13 PM
i checked text on my tv this morning as i was thinking 'oh no!'...knew the back was worse than she was letting on. did anyone see it...how did she look?

I don't think it was televised at all - not even in the USA - ESPN are only covering it from Quarters if I am not mistaken. So no one, other than the folks there, witnessed it.

-Rache

Kelly
Jul 29th, 2005, 09:58 PM
proberly for the best....the less people to see it...the easier we can forget about it lol

_LuCaS_
Jul 29th, 2005, 10:29 PM
How unfortunate :(
Hope she recovers soon enough to keep the #1 ranking.

lindsayno1
Jul 30th, 2005, 03:11 PM
shes gonna win us open and snatch back no1 ;)

Andrew..
Jul 30th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Andrew, Lindsay committed to Beijing TODAY. Or I at least read it today. Spooky, but cool.
I'm too good.

Andrew..
Jul 30th, 2005, 11:06 PM
Wow! This is bizzare. Unlike Williams sisters, Lindsays didn't travel far for playing 1 tournament (or you can say 1 week) then fly back to US immediately. OK, I know she played Dubai earlier this year - which I thought the reason is, she still planed to retired by the end of this year at that time - so, why not travel to someplace she's never been? Now this Beijing thing comes. Hmm...

I read a report about how hard was German Open trying to get Lindsay play for their final year there but failed.
Well, Lindsay sure seems to be whoring up the appearance fees this year. Good for her. That's where the real money is in tennis.

I'm going to say Beijing is paying her somewhere in the mid six figures to show up.

Andrew..
Jul 30th, 2005, 11:08 PM
If Lindsay is too withdraw from San Diego and Los Angeles due to the lower back strain and a week to get match fit, will she enter either Toronto or New Haven to get some match practise under her belt?
Toronto, I really don't think so. She's only played it I think once, and got injured there.

I do think she'll end up playing New Haven, especially if she ends up pulling out of San Diego and pulling out of or doing poorly in LA. She said in an interview earlier this month that if she needed more match time, she'd consider a WC into New Haven. I expect that she'll be taking it now.

RayRob
Jul 31st, 2005, 12:18 AM
Well, Lindsay sure seems to be whoring up the appearance fees this year. Good for her. That's where the real money is in tennis.

I'm going to say Beijing is paying her somewhere in the mid six figures to show up.

Well, it would have to be such a healthy sum because it would have to at least cover travel/accomodation expensies and of course the ammount the government will rob for taxes plus some extra to make it even worth the trip! I'm sure I saw on a "who's that Girl?" documentry on Eurosport that the player get their prize money killed with all the tax they pay.

I think it was Conchita Martinez that was saying that the country they're playing in deducts tax, then the exchange rate robs you, then your own country deducts a healthy sum of tax! (not sure if this was just the european players, but it just goes to show you really do have to be in the top 10/20 to earn the $$$£££)! So you are probably right with the 6-figure sum...$100,000 at least! ;)

Well, Lindsay's husband being a financial advisor or what have you is probably advising her on which appearance fees are worth taking. ;) Wise man :)

-Rache

Kelly
Jul 31st, 2005, 03:08 PM
thats why a lot of french players live in switzerland...avoid the taxmen. i think its disgusting the amout of tax i have to pay, but with out me the people on benefits would suffer and we cant have that now can we

RayRob
Jul 31st, 2005, 03:41 PM
thats why a lot of french players live in switzerland...avoid the taxmen. i think its disgusting the amout of tax i have to pay, but with out me the people on benefits would suffer and we cant have that now can we

:lol: Kelly, I have to say, i was once - legitimately - one of those people on benifits ;) Obviously I'm not now.......there are many benifit scroungers though. My friends uncle, she tells me has lived all his life on job seekers benifits even though he is 100% fit and heathly and is capable of working! He lives with his father and so pretty much lives of him, with £45 quid pocket money per week from the government!

I had all sorts of people on my back when I left uni with a degree because I couldn't get a job in what I wanted! I had to check in at the dole house every fortnight to sign a peice of paper then leave.....but these scroungers who don't want to work get away with it!

It makes me mad - now I'm stuck in a warehouse job that I'd rather not do because I can't get a job in what I'm qualified for :rolleyes: Thanks mr blair!

Rant over even though it was way off topic! ;)
-Rache

lindsayno1
Jul 31st, 2005, 05:05 PM
whats ur degree in Rache?

RayRob
Jul 31st, 2005, 10:56 PM
whats ur degree in Rache?

oh, thought i would have told you? :confused: My degree is in Graphic Design, but i also have a Diploma in General Art and Design....so am ok at most creative avenues.... :D....

....not that it's done me much good :tape:

-Rache

lindsayno1
Aug 1st, 2005, 07:37 AM
oh, thought i would have told you? :confused: My degree is in Graphic Design, but i also have a Diploma in General Art and Design....so am ok at most creative avenues.... :D....

....not that it's done me much good :tape:

-Rache


u probs told me at DFS... but i was sunburnt! lol :cool:

Ingokoer
Aug 1st, 2005, 09:50 AM
These are the new rankings this week, look how close Sharapova is now. I don't understand exactly the working of the rankings. Sharapova also withdrew from San Diego, so there can't be a change at the top next week, because both are not playing. Am I right? By the way it is so close that even Amélie has a good chance to get to No.1 in the next weeks, because she is playing Toronto and New Haven in a row.

1 (1) DAVENPORT, LINDSAY USA
4475.00
2 (2) SHARAPOVA, MARIA RUS
4452.00
3 (3) MAURESMO, AMELIE FRA
4208.00

lindsayno1
Aug 1st, 2005, 10:41 AM
wow, thats close!

lindsayno1
Aug 1st, 2005, 10:43 AM
well amelie is defending champ of montreal, so has 401 points to come off and 286 from the olympics. So the points she gets from toronto and new haven, will most likely be cancelled out by montreal and olympics points coming off

Kelly
Aug 1st, 2005, 03:16 PM
u know what...i have never understood how the rankings work...all this points to come off by such a date etc...always confuses me....i mean i only learnt what a square route was at wimby..thanks to siobhan haha

Elldee
Aug 1st, 2005, 05:12 PM
All Lindsay's points from her summer run last year are off bar Cincinnatti.

LethalLindsay
Aug 1st, 2005, 11:59 PM
Actually her points for LA have not come off yet. They fall off the week before I believe. So if those points fall off this week for next weeks rankings then Sharapova is number one. Although last year Scream-apova did not do well in the US open series i think if her back is ok she will do better this year and it's all just gravy for her and Lindsay will not be raw adding points until after the USO and going into the European Indoor season!

Lindsayfan32
Aug 2nd, 2005, 03:01 AM
Lindsay is playing in that china tourment as there was a small article saying so. It looked like it was a offical commitement.

Andrew..
Aug 6th, 2005, 02:14 PM
I don't care if Lindsay loses the #1 ranking for a little while. This is what happens when players don't play enough, a concept that fans of certain African-American players failed to understand a few years back.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 7th, 2005, 09:25 AM
Lindsay will stay no 1 for this week as Maria has to gain 116 points to take it and the LA tournment that's a semi final at least and a final will seal the deal. With the draw for the tournment I will say Maria will be no 1 next week but she had her chances before this and choked for want of a better word for it. It also depends on quality points also. But I don't think she will stay there long if she does get it as she hasn't play as consistantly as Lindsay has this year and as I've said before its just a number anyway.

Lindsay was bagged on alot when she took the no 1 ranking last year for not having made a grand slam final little lone winning one. Maria has made two semi finals to Lindsay's two final I wonder how the press will react, time will tell, my bet is Maria will be prised for doing the exactly the same thing Lindsay was bagged for last year.

To me its a double standard by the media!!

lindsayno1
Aug 7th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Pah, queen Maria! i think NOT

Golinds
Aug 7th, 2005, 05:16 PM
Pah, queen Maria! i think NOT

"Queen Maria" (*vomits at the sound of her name*), needs be-heading for sure...*slices off her head with a huge axe*

Queen Lindsay will rule!!

Elldee
Aug 7th, 2005, 05:22 PM
I don't really like the Maria hating. Why shouldn't she be number one? Mauresmo was one because Lindsay injured herself in the US Open semis and because Justine was ill, Lindsay got it because Amelie was injured and because, like Maria has had a good year, had had a good 2004.

Golinds
Aug 7th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Sharapova may have had a good year, but that dosnt stop her being the biggest bitchfromhell on the entire planet...at least Mauresmo is gracious and has a bit more between her ears...those who hate marias guts will understand my point...

lindsayno1
Aug 7th, 2005, 08:24 PM
I don't really like the Maria hating. Why shouldn't she be number one? Mauresmo was one because Lindsay injured herself in the US Open semis and because Justine was ill, Lindsay got it because Amelie was injured and because, like Maria has had a good year, had had a good 2004.


i dont like maria - ive seen her in person about 4 times and i havent liked what ive seen

Andrew..
Aug 7th, 2005, 08:28 PM
She's just nasty... Not a nice person at all.

Elldee
Aug 7th, 2005, 09:22 PM
Okay, we'll agree to disagree.

Kelly
Aug 7th, 2005, 10:36 PM
im on the haters side....at first i purly hated her for beating lindsay at wimby...sad i know....but when i saw her snub a little kid that is just plain nasty. she is stuck up cow who thinks she is better than everyone else.......and we all know why the media love her...so they get all the pervey men to drool and dribble over there papers

Ingokoer
Aug 8th, 2005, 10:31 AM
I also don't like Sharapova, one point is that she always looks so arrogant and cool on the court, furthermore I don't like these showgirls who concentrate on things like fashion, model or advertisement. Lindsay is the complete different girl, she is a very decent person, she doesn't need to stand in the centre of a press hype, is a fair loser on the court and concentrates only on her tennis.

Sharapova is a tennis player, but when I hear she gets much more money from advertisements, she is not an athlete, but an actress for me. I never liked that, same with Kournikova and Serena Williams is also on this trip now.

Andrew..
Aug 8th, 2005, 11:59 AM
Okay, we'll agree to disagree.
I don't disagree that if she gets to #1, she deserves it. I disagree about not "hating" her though.

lindsayno1
Aug 8th, 2005, 01:42 PM
so they get all the pervey men to drool and dribble over there papers


LMAO!! Rache remember the obsessive sharapova bloke sat next to us at DFS?!!?! oh god it was a day, the obsessive Sharapova dude next to us and mr clappy infront of us! :lol:

foreva lindsay
Aug 8th, 2005, 04:01 PM
I don't really like the Maria hating. Why shouldn't she be number one? Mauresmo was one because Lindsay injured herself in the US Open semis

yes but thats amelie and this is maria bitch!!! :lol:

RayRob
Aug 8th, 2005, 10:21 PM
LMAO!! Rache remember the obsessive sharapova bloke sat next to us at DFS?!!?! oh god it was a day, the obsessive Sharapova dude next to us and mr clappy infront of us! :lol:

:haha: Yeah, I remember him - I hope to see him there next year so I can remind him who got to the Wimbledon final and who didn't ;) He was so sure a certain someone would be in the final - and win :rolleyes:

And as for the subject you guys seem to be discussing now, well, I'm with Grand Slam on this one. I don't particularly hate Maria, nor do I see the point in "maria hating".....ok, so she annoys me a lot of them time, but to be honest so did the Williams sisters at one time. Now, Venus and Serena don't grate on me so much....in fact I find them rather humorous, but I'm not sure if that in an "I'm laughing at you!" kind of way as in because their antics are so bizzarre at times, or "I'm laughing with you" because they have character - or maybe a bit of both.

At the moment, Maria sometimes appears as a kind of "machine" to me, in the sense she does what she's told (perhaps because she's young) and says things in a way/manner that another player has....for example the "I don't remember that match against Lindsay" (love and love)....which I'm sure is a similar thing that Serena said about her Wimbledon final against Maria.....if you catch my drift.

Also at DFS and Wimbledon, Maria didn't seem very "fan friendly" even though she won the DFS Classic for a second time!

She annoys me alot, but I really don't hate her...you have to admit she has played some great tennis, but maybe the best has gone. :confused: Who knows?

As for the whole number one thing....I'm not too bothered about Lindsay losing it, but it would have been better if it was because Maria defeated Lindsay fair and square in the last year and actually acheived number one by acheivement as opposed to by default because Lindsay is injured.

The inevitable will happen, but for how long she'll be there has yet to be seen :D

-Rache

RayRob
Aug 9th, 2005, 01:49 PM
On the subject of the thread, i just read on WTAtour.com that Maria Sharapova still needs a semi-final showing or better at LA. This means she needs to win her first two matches before she can become number one.

"Russian teen Maria Sharapova (http://www.wtatour.com/players/playerprofiles/playerbio.asp?PlayerID=310137) is in prime position to replace Lindsay Davenport atop the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour Singles Rankings this week at the JPMorgan Chase Open presented by Herbalife in Los Angeles. Sharapova could become the 15th No.1 in computer rankings history with a semifinal run or better in LA."

She's managed to miss out before with this pressure - will she do it again? We'll see, I guess....

-Rache

RayRob
Aug 9th, 2005, 01:53 PM
OOPS. made a slight error...Maria need to win 3 matches to reach semi's because she has rd 2 & 3, then QF. She plays Kirilenko in rd2, possibly Sinia Mirza in rd3 who is showing great progress and I think could beat Maria, especially since Maria hasn't played for a long time! In the QF's she has Zheng, Haynes or Hantuchova....who knows, if Maria's feeling pretty nervous anyone of those named could beat her ;)

-Rache

foreva lindsay
Aug 12th, 2005, 06:55 PM
Woo Maria pulled out of her 1/4 final match so Lindsays still #1 :D

Elldee
Aug 12th, 2005, 06:56 PM
If Lindsay had played she'd totally have kept the ranking. I wonder if Maria will pull out of Toronto... it doesn't matter anyway though, does it?

Andrew..
Aug 12th, 2005, 07:04 PM
Doesn't matter. Really, it's as if this week never happened. Sharapova only adds 6 points to her current total, 18 points behind Lindsay.

But, next week, Cincy comes off for Lindsay, which is 175 pts. Even if Maria doesn't play Toroto, the rankings will look like this:

1. Sharapova - 4456
2. Davenport - 4350

Elldee
Aug 12th, 2005, 09:46 PM
I doubt Sharapova will play Toronto. Lindsay might get it back in New Haven but you assume Maria will go much farther than the 3rd round this year at the US Open.

lindsayno1
Aug 12th, 2005, 10:08 PM
ugh. it is quite funny thou!!!! Lindsays not played a full match since wimbledon and still is no1!!! ha ha

Andrew..
Aug 12th, 2005, 10:14 PM
I doubt Sharapova will play Toronto. Lindsay might get it back in New Haven but you assume Maria will go much farther than the 3rd round this year at the US Open.
Maybe, but the 3r is going to be tough for all the top players this year. Peng, Tchakvetadze, Gorenefeld and Golovin are some of both Maria and Lindsay's 3r possibilities. And, I still think Maria sucks hard on the summer hardcourts. I don't think Maria will get by the QF, unless she gets some bullshit easy draw. And Lindsay can gain on her SF, even if she loses this year in the semis. Her quality points last year were crap.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 12th, 2005, 10:26 PM
Lindsay will stay no 1 for at least another week or two as Maria has pulled out of her quater final in LA with of all thing an injury. All she has said she wants to get back to being healthy. So if Maria doesn't play next week and Lindsay plays the following week it will be game on for the number 1 rankning again, which will be great as Lindsay is more consistant this year she may hold Maria off of the year.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 12th, 2005, 10:28 PM
Maybe, but the 3r is going to be tough for all the top players this year. Peng, Tchakvetadze, Gorenefeld and Golovin are some of both Maria and Lindsay's 3r possibilities. And, I still think Maria sucks hard on the summer hardcourts. I don't think Maria will get by the QF, unless she gets some bullshit easy draw. And Lindsay can gain on her SF, even if she loses this year in the semis. Her quality points last year were crap.

Hey Andrew Lindsay is going to do the finals three peat with one difference she going to win it this time. If she can get back to form in a hurry (which I know she can) look out everyone else no one is better player than Lindsay when she's on her game and firing on all fours.

lindsayno1
Aug 12th, 2005, 10:33 PM
Lindsay will stay no 1 for at least another week or two.
she will lose it next week apparently when her cinci points come off

RayRob
Aug 12th, 2005, 11:02 PM
Andrew, I have a question or two about this ranking thing - not sure if what I say makes sense at all but here goes.

You say Lindsay has Cinci points coming off - is that because Cinci was put forward this year by a few weeks, because Cinci as an event already happened this year?

Also, what's to say that the Cinci points have been counted towards Lindsay's best 18 tournie points of the last 12 months? Since only the best 18 results are counted and Cinci was a teir 3 (less points for each round), isn't it possible that other results since that event have replaced those points for her best 18 results of the last year? [This year alone, Lindsay has 4 x Runner-up (two in GS's), 2 x wins, a 1/4 at RG and Charlston]

An example of this would be that Maria's points this week won't be added because it doesn't exceed the lowest value of her current best 18 events......so if Lindsay's points for Cinci are not counted in her current best 18 then technically they're already off.

Am i making sense? I could be wrong, if so do you have the list of Lindsay's best 18 results broke down into points that I could look at?

Thanks :)
-Rache :wavey:

Andrew..
Aug 12th, 2005, 11:19 PM
Andrew, I have a question or two about this ranking thing - not sure if what I say makes sense at all but here goes.

You say Lindsay has Cinci points coming off - is that because Cinci was put forward this year by a few weeks, because Cinci as an event already happened this year?
Your points come off 52 weeks after they came on. Cincy could have been held in June this year, and the points still wouldn't have come off until next week.

Also, what's to say that the Cinci points have been counted towards Lindsay's best 18 tournie points of the last 12 months? Since only the best 18 results are counted and Cinci was a teir 3 (less points for each round), isn't it possible that other results since that event have replaced those points for her best 18 results of the last year? [This year alone, Lindsay has 4 x Runner-up (two in GS's), 2 x wins, a 1/4 at RG and Charlston]

An example of this would be that Maria's points this week won't be added because it doesn't exceed the lowest value of her current best 18 events......so if Lindsay's points for Cinci are not counted in her current best 18 then technically they're already off.

Am i making sense? I could be wrong, if so do you have the list of Lindsay's best 18 results broke down into points that I could look at?

Thanks :)
-Rache :wavey:
Lindsay only has 15 tournaments in her rolling 52.

wkchiang
Aug 12th, 2005, 11:32 PM
2005-06-20 Wimbledon 790
2005-01-17 Australian Open 662
2004-08-30 US Open 456
2004-10-04 Filderstadt 413
2005-03-07 Indian Wells 342
2005-04-04 Amelia Island 304
2005-01-31 Tokyo 270
2005-02-28 Dubai 268
2005-05-23 Roland Garros 264
2004-11-08 Los Angeles 214
2004-08-16 Cincinnati 175
2004-10-11 Moscow 166
2005-04-11 Charleston 78
2005-01-10 Sydney 72
2005-07-25 Stanford 1

Andrew..
Aug 13th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Maria has now confirmed that it is very unlikely that she will play Toronto.

This situation becomes very interesting.

Week of August 15: Lindsay keeps #1 ranking
Week of August 22: Sharapova will take #1 ranking
Week of August 29: IF Lindsay reaches the SF of New Haven, and accumulates 20+ bonus points, she will be #1. If Lindsay reaches the final of New Haven, she will become #1. If Lindsay does not play New Haven, Sharapova will stay #1.

So, there is a very good chance that for the first time in a long time, a player ranked #1 will not be seeded #1 at a slam.

Elldee
Aug 13th, 2005, 09:10 AM
I REALLY hope Lindsay's fit and healthy. Also, I want Clijsters/Sharapova quarter at the Open.

lindsayno1
Aug 13th, 2005, 09:48 AM
I REALLY hope Lindsay's fit and healthy. Also, I want Clijsters/Sharapova semi at the Open.


amen to both!!! :angel: i would rather sharapoohead was out earlier, but i'll settle for kim trouncin her in the semis!

RayRob
Aug 13th, 2005, 12:35 PM
Thanks to Andrew for the explanation and also to wkchiang for posting this years points. :D

This whole number 1 thing is very interesting. I will just :lol: if Lindsay becomes number 1 for the USO but is seeded 2 :haha: only bad thing is, the commentators for Sky Sports might be going on about it for the whole fortnight, just like the BBC would if it was during Wimbledon :rolleyes:

I'm really looking forward to USO - wish I was going :(

-Rache

Andrew..
Aug 13th, 2005, 01:47 PM
amen to both!!! :angel: i would rather sharapoohead was out earlier, but i'll settle for kim trouncin her in the semis!
You're a Kim fan.

LethalLindsay
Aug 13th, 2005, 02:04 PM
If Maria pulls out of Toronto as well with the injury then the Number One Ranking and Seeding may ours through US Open, (particularly as Andrew said with New Haven, it's not a great field) also with Lindsay playing a heavy Fall European Indoor season we may hang on all the way through to end of year and Maria has quite a few points defend including a final at the Tier One event in Switzerland. YAY!
Sharapova's points for Canada last year will be coming off as well remember. It's 50 points so it may be ok. I don't think it will be enough to help for the one week though. You never know with the rankings!

Elldee
Aug 13th, 2005, 02:11 PM
By the way, I - OF COURSE - meant a Sharapova/Clijsters quarter-final. I don't want Sharapova getting Petrova or Dementieva or someone like that.

foreva lindsay
Aug 13th, 2005, 07:05 PM
ugh. it is quite funny thou!!!! Lindsays not played a full match since wimbledon and still is no1!!! ha ha

:tape: thats coz she rocks :worship:

foreva lindsay
Aug 13th, 2005, 07:07 PM
Sharapova/Clijsters quarter-final

HEAVEN!!! Please be this in the USOpen lol...its time she had a hard draw...or lindsay had an easy draw ;)

Andrew..
Aug 14th, 2005, 02:00 AM
Maria is still in the Toronto draw, though reports are now saying that she's pulled out.

lindsayno1
Aug 14th, 2005, 09:29 PM
now official :D:D:D

Lindsay, just be better dammit!

Jan
Aug 16th, 2005, 07:06 AM
Maria can't help it that Linds is injured (as she is herself) nor that the No 1 Ranking has come her way because of it. I think Linds will soon have it back as long as she is fit. btw Kim is playing a lot of tennis just now; do you think it wise in front of the US Open given the injuries she has had. I also don't think she is on top of her form even though she has won 5 titles this year. Any comments?:worship:

Loughyunijen
Aug 16th, 2005, 08:19 AM
Maria can't help it that Linds is injured (as she is herself) nor that the No 1 Ranking has come her way because of it. I think Linds will soon have it back as long as she is fit. btw Kim is playing a lot of tennis just now; do you think it wise in front of the US Open given the injuries she has had. I also don't think she is on top of her form even though she has won 5 titles this year. Any comments?:worship:


Yeah jan I think you're right that Kim definately isnt at the top of her game right now and in my eyes its lack of consistancey, she seems to be hitting well, when she hits well, but for some reason she cant seem to maintain it at a high level and get in a groove! Instaed she has these off days....I mean you would have never tought she would lose to Peng...no matter how up and comming Peng is, especially on a hardcourt! Personally I think thats down to the long injury layoff and lack of match practise, which may be the reason why she is playing so many tournaments!

On the injury front...I htink she is fit as a fiddle, I think she has the kind of body to recouperate from injuries very quickly.....just because of the amount of trianing she does! I mean we all know how flexible she is! But I dont think the amount of tennis Kim is playing will hamper her USO challenge infact I think it will only make it stronger!

However I dont have Kim down to win the USO, even though she's the bookies favourites! If I had to put a winner on the USO.....i'd say venus....i really think she'll go back to back....often after she has had a long spell off from tennis she seems to some back ever so strong, both mentally and physically! I dont think she has played since wimby....venus is my pick for the USO!

I would have said Serena to win it....but with no disrespect at all to serena....she really has just put a few too many pounds on this last 5-6months and I dont think she'll be a contender.....well not unless she has shed a few pounds!

As Richard Williams said at wimby "serena's has got to stop eating the pies!!"

Andrew..
Aug 16th, 2005, 01:28 PM
The Williams love needs out. It's laughable that she won another major. Just take a look at how bad the rest of her year was. Even with Wimbledon, her ranking is down at #10. That's bad. If Venus gets a rough 4r, she's out.

I hope Kim breaks her wrist again. The schedule she plays is flat out ridiculous. Her fans yap about how nice she is and how much she doesn't deserve these injuries, when the fact is she does it to herself. When you play seven out of eight weeks, you have it coming to you. And the fact is that she's a liar. When she came back from the wrist thing earlier this year, she said she wouldn't play nearly as much as she used to, and only stick to major tournaments. And now look at her. I can't tolerate it.

!<blocparty>!
Aug 16th, 2005, 01:43 PM
Kim is super. #1 USO series leader.

Luckily, Kim is gonna get murdered by someone who can hit hard, and flat, with at least some sort of consistency.

lindsayno1
Aug 16th, 2005, 02:41 PM
Kim is super. #1 USO series leader.

Luckily, Kim is gonna get murdered by someone who can hit hard, and flat, with at least some sort of consistency.


shes not really come up against anyone 'big' to prove shes super though. yes shes a good player, but she hasnt played all that great here. shes not had lindsay, serena, queen vee or masha to test her and imo theyd take her out atm!

Andrew..
Aug 16th, 2005, 02:46 PM
Her match against Petrova should go down as one of the worst matches ever. That thing rivals last year's Bovina vs. Washington match.

lindsayno1
Aug 16th, 2005, 03:03 PM
the final where she beat Hantuchova wasnt inspiring either....

Andrew..
Aug 16th, 2005, 03:57 PM
The first few games of the first set were decent. After that, I turned it off while telling others how pathetic the WTA was.

!<blocparty>!
Aug 16th, 2005, 09:30 PM
Regarding the Belgians...neither of them, have beaten opponents, that are capable of beating them, playing well.

OK, Kim has had some good wins over Hype and Lindsay....Lindsay choked badly in that first set. Should have won. Venus played a solid match in Antwerp, Kim lost. Venus played like a retard in Stanford, Kim won. Lindsay played good tennis in the Wimbledon fourth round, including a second set choke, and still won.

What player, capable of doing major damage has Justine beaten when they're playing good tennis? The only match I can think of is the RG quarter...but that was Maria on clay. Pierce in the final can't be counted either.

Lindsay took a set of Justine, injured, on clay :shrug: I shouldn't have put Justine on my list of USO faves :p

Andrew..
Aug 16th, 2005, 09:53 PM
Yes, both Belgians comeback records are hugely inflated.

That's why I hate the WTA right now. You get one girl who has some talent and self-belief, and they can win. It's ridiculous.

!<blocparty>!
Aug 16th, 2005, 10:07 PM
I know :scratch:

Geez, I hope the next few slams see some beatdowns to Justine and Kim. It pissed me off today when some male sky sports commentator picked Kim to WIN the Open :retard:

Andrew..
Aug 16th, 2005, 10:10 PM
Kim played some downright disgusting tennis to win LA. If she plays like that against even a half-assed Serena, she's going down. She plays like that against Lindsay, Justine, or even Sharapova, she's not winning.

The US Open always manages to piss me off. Oh well.

Jan
Aug 17th, 2005, 07:21 AM
Well I hope Kim doesn't break her wrist again but I do think her schedule is far too heavy. Just hoping our Linds is fit enough to play and play well:D

Elldee
Aug 17th, 2005, 04:10 PM
Lindsay took a set of Justine, injured, on clay :shrug: I shouldn't have put Justine on my list of USO faves :p

Yeah, but it was Justine's first tournement back and she was playing on clay. I think you're selling both belgians way short.

Andrew..
Aug 17th, 2005, 05:20 PM
Yeah, but it was Justine's first tournement back and she was playing on clay. I think you're selling both belgians way short.
Did you see how Kim played in LA and Carlsbad.

Elldee
Aug 18th, 2005, 06:29 AM
I saw her play in LA and she wasas good as she needed to be. She'll want to play her best at the Open and I'm sure she will.

Henin's my pick for the title.

Andrew..
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:13 PM
I would love it if Justine won, but I think she's just going to drop dead at some point, sadly.

wkchiang
Aug 18th, 2005, 06:36 PM
Henin's my pick for the title.

Lindsay is my pick if she reaches semi (no further) next week ;)

GrandSlam05
Aug 21st, 2005, 08:51 PM
I just read that if Linds gets to the final in New Haven then she takes the no. 1 back from the Shark.

lindsayno1
Aug 21st, 2005, 08:54 PM
whoop

Lindsayfan32
Aug 21st, 2005, 09:24 PM
Lindsay will take back the Number one ranking if she makes the final in New Haven.

Kelly
Aug 21st, 2005, 11:08 PM
I would love it if Justine won, but I think she's just going to drop dead at some point, sadly.


:lol: :lol: you crack me up

well kim won another title by not actualy playing anyone who could do anything to hurt her all week....the hyped match against ivanivic never happened, anastacia only had 1 leg and justine has a hamstring problem plus has had a couple of tough matches/ rain delays etc....so it was pretty much a cake walk for kim. she wont win the open....if she doesnt break down she will choke

Jan
Aug 22nd, 2005, 07:04 AM
:lol: :lol: you crack me up

well kim won another title by not actualy playing anyone who could do anything to hurt her all week....the hyped match against ivanivic never happened, anastacia only had 1 leg and justine has a hamstring problem plus has had a couple of tough matches/ rain delays etc....so it was pretty much a cake walk for kim. she wont win the open....if she doesnt break down she will choke

I don't think Kim will win the Open either, nor do I think Sharapova will. There are and have been so many injuries it really is still wide open as far as I am concerned and if Linds is fit then she has as good a chance as anyone I would say.:angel: :cool:

lindsayno1
Aug 22nd, 2005, 07:28 AM
i argree. neither will.

Kim wont even thou shes won loads of tourneys. shes played lower ranked players and they top players have been subpar/injured, so shes not been tested.

Elldee
Aug 22nd, 2005, 09:55 AM
Sharapova's not even in my head as a possible.

Lindsay
Venus
Justine [my pick!]
Kim