View Full Version : Terry Schiavo's Autopsy Released: Irreversible Brain Damage

Jun 15th, 2005, 05:13 PM
Her parents and family and Sean Hannity and Congress should really be ashamed :(


Schiavo autopsy finds no sign of trauma
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 Posted: 11:33 AM EDT (1533 GMT)

Terri Schiavo died March 31 after a prolonged legal battle between her husband and parents.

LARGO, Florida (AP) -- Terri Schiavo did not suffer any trauma prior to her 1990 collapse and her brain was about half of normal size when she died, according to results released Wednesday of an autopsy conducted on the severely brain-damaged woman.
Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin concluded that there was no evidence of strangulation or other trauma leading to her collapse.

He also said she did not appear to have suffered a heart attack and there was no evidence that she was given harmful drugs or other substances prior to her death.

Autopsy results on the 41-year-old brain damaged woman were made public Wednesday, more than two months after Schiavo's death ended an internationally watched right-to-die battle that engulfed the courts, Congress and the White House and divided the country.

She died from dehydration, he said.

He said she would not have been able to eat or drink if she had been given food by mouth as her parents' requested.

"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.

Thogmartin said that Schiavo's brain was about half of its expected size when she died March 31 in a Pinellas Park hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed.

"The brain weighed 615 grams, roughly half of the expected weight of a human brain. ... This damage was irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."

Jun 15th, 2005, 05:16 PM
Not shocking at all. This case has one important message: get what you want done put down in writing.

Helen Lawson
Jun 15th, 2005, 05:16 PM
Is this a surprise to anyone?

Jun 15th, 2005, 05:24 PM
umm, couldn't they have verified that with a simple MRI while she was alive? It seems odd that it came as news to them after the autopsy

Jun 15th, 2005, 05:25 PM
Is this a surprise to anyone?

I'll be interested to hear what Mr. Hannity has to say tonight... ;)

Helen Lawson
Jun 15th, 2005, 05:44 PM
I'll be interested to hear what Mr. Hannity has to say tonight... ;)

After all the shit FoxNews slung on this case, I imagine they'll just ignore it. Or they'll use the no heart attack finding to cast doubt on the whole thing like it's an invalid autopsy or Michael Shiavo used some designer poison or something.

Jun 15th, 2005, 05:49 PM
Are we supposed to be shocked??

Jun 15th, 2005, 10:41 PM
CHRONOLOGY-Key dates in Schiavo right-to-die case

9 minutes ago

The case of brain-damaged Florida woman Terri Schiavo, whose autopsy results were released on Wednesday, snowballed from a bitter family dispute into a national controversy over the right to die. Here are some of the key developments over the past 15 years.

February 1990 - Terri Schiavo suffers cardiac arrest at age 26. Her brain is starved of oxygen and she falls into what some doctors call a "persistent vegetative state." She lived in nursing homes and was fed and hydrated by tubes.

1992 - Terri Schiavo and husband Michael awarded separate malpractice settlements worth $1 million. Michael Schiavo says the money was used up paying medical expenses and legal fees.

1993 - Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, say they have a falling out with Michael Schiavo over therapy options. The parents petition the courts to remove him as legal guardian but are rejected.

1998 - Michael Schiavo seeks court permission to remove wife's feeding tube.

2000/2001 - A circuit court orders feeding tube removed in February 2000 but the ruling is not carried out as appeals are filed by the parents. In April 2001 feeding is halted but resumed two days later after a ruling from a civil judge.

2003 - The feeding tube is removed again but Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, President Bush's brother, presses state Legislature to approve a bill that allows him to intervene and order the tube to be reinserted six days later.

2004 - The Florida Supreme Court finds the law that allowed the governor to intervene is unconstitutional.

March 18, 2005 - U.S. Congressional committees in Washington subpoena Terri Schiavo to appear at hearings in a bid to keep her alive but Greer rejects their motion and the feeding tube is removed.

March 21, 2005 - U.S. Congress passes a bill allowing federal court intervention and the president signs it. Schindlers go to federal court to have the tube reinserted.

March 22, 2005 - U.S. District Judge James Whittemore rejects parents' plea for emergency order to resume feeding.

March 23, 2005 - U.S. appeals court in Atlanta twice rejects Schiavo case. White House says it is out of legal options.

March 24, 2005 - U.S. Supreme Court refuses to take up case.

March 25, 2005 - Whittemore rejects plea from parents to reconnect feeding tube.

March 26, 2005 - Greer rejects new appeal to have feeding restored, a ruling later upheld by the Florida Supreme Court.

March 30, 2005 - U.S. Appeals court in Atlanta refuses to hear the case and Supreme Court again denies request from parents to have feeding resumed.

March 31, 2005 - Terri Schiavo dies.

June 15, 2005 - Autopsy shows Schiavo was severely brain damaged with no hope of recovery but no evidence to support her family's contention that she had been abused. The autopsy also cast doubt on allegations that an eating disorder contributed to her collapse.

Jun 16th, 2005, 12:07 AM
I'm watching a report on it on Anderson Cooper 360 now.

When she was "making eye contact", it was nothing more than wishful thinking. The part of the brain controlling vision was apparently dead.

Jun 16th, 2005, 02:50 AM
Weren't you all trying to keep her alive, though?

Jun 16th, 2005, 03:19 AM
Weren't you all trying to keep her alive, though?

No, not at all! I was stunned at the lengths Congress (mainly Republicans) went to interfere in this case. I was pizzed off! :mad: And her family is still slamming Michael Schiavo tonight on Hannity and Colmes...denial ain't just river in Egypt for sure.

Jun 16th, 2005, 05:26 AM
umm, couldn't they have verified that with a simple MRI while she was alive? It seems odd that it came as news to them after the autopsyBut that's just the point. All of the specialists agreed that her condition was irreversable. Most said her brain was no more than a puddle mass. :shrug:

Helen Lawson
Jun 16th, 2005, 01:26 PM
I'll be interested to hear what Mr. Hannity has to say tonight... ;)

Well, Helen was at the gym this morning and watched that cute, dark haired guy on FoxNews who comes on after Neil Cavuto. The guy's real dumb, but eye candy. So he and the Black chick were talking about Terri Shiavo's autopsy. I usually don't watch FoxNews, but I had to see what they were going to say. First, it was brief. Then they lingered on the fact that there was no evidence of an eating disorder or any evidence of why she collapsed. In other words, more suspicion of Michael Shiavo. Then they discussed the finding that her severe brain damage was irreversible. Their response to that was that the Terri fight was never about rehabbing her. I'm like, it was a big part of it, Jeb Bush got some doctor, who only looked at tapes of Terri, to say she probably wasn't a vegetable, and the parents' main arguments were they wanted more tests.