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spiceboy
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:32 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

cellophane
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:37 PM
:haha:

Martian Jeza
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:38 PM
Nah, because they congratulated Sonny Erickson the sponsor which the crowd didn't appreciate : that's it .

backhanddtl4
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:38 PM
Lol, I thought it was kind of funny.

Scotso
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:38 PM
I don't really know about Justine because I wasn't paying attention to what she said, but the crowd didn't boo Mary.

gopher
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:39 PM
They are unbelievable stupid ! The French economy is contracting like c<razy and they still think it is necessary to boo the main investor !! Furthermore, the spanking Mary got from a petite Belge in Paris must have hurt like hell !

Allez-H
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Sop Sony Eriksson is like public enemy number one right now :o

ginger_fish668
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:39 PM
I think the majority of the crowd, people who booed, are dumbasses. Period.

Martian Jeza
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:39 PM
They are unbelievable stupid ! The French economy is contracting like c<razy and they still think it is necessary to boo the main investor !! Furthermore, the spanking Mary got from a petite Belge in Paris must have hurt like hell !

Read what I wrote ;)

alexusjonesfan
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:40 PM
yeah what do they have against sony ericsson? :confused:

ginger_fish668
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:40 PM
I don't really know about Justine because I wasn't paying attention to what she said, but the crowd didn't boo Mary.



Yes they did.

azmad_88
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:40 PM
i think most of them are using nokia

Martian Jeza
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:40 PM
yeah what do they have against sony ericsson? :confused:

Don't know : Just ask them :p

Lady
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:41 PM
That was really stupid... First Justine and I wondered what did she say? because I heard her mentioning sponsors, then Mary thanked Sony Ericsson and got booed too! :rolleyes:

Scotso
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:42 PM
It's not a French company. Plus the French just don't like it when people thank companies, but they did not BOO MARY. :rolleyes:

gopher
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Sony is not a French brand. Sad but true but these days it is enough to make the French boo !
The French have an inferiority complex right now!

Martian Jeza
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:43 PM
It's not a French company. Plus the French just don't like it when people thank companies, but they did not BOO MARY. :rolleyes:

They only booed the sponsor Sony Ericsson : Case closed at my side :wavey:

hablo
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:44 PM
It's not a French company. Plus the French just don't like it when people thank companies, but they did not BOO MARY. :rolleyes:

why?? I didn't know that!!

gopher
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:44 PM
Credits to Justine but she handled it well ! Must have a good media coach . She kept smiling and thanked the crowd ! A great example of using the "bridging" technique

ginger_fish668
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:45 PM
It's not a French company. Plus the French just don't like it when people thank companies, but they did not BOO MARY. :rolleyes:


Of course they didn't boo Mary, and neither did they boo Justine. It was directed at Sony Ericsson. But they did boo during BOTH Justine and Mary's speeches. That's what I meant. :)

arn
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:47 PM
They didn't boo Justine nor Mary nor the company, they just didn't like to hear the annualy thank-the-sponsors-talk

Martian Jeza
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:47 PM
I'm not sure about it but Sony Ericsson is the sponsor also of Olympique Marseille which is disliked in Paris : Many supporters of Paris Saint-Germain maybe present at today's final...

Smackie
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:49 PM
It's not a French company. Plus the French just don't like it when people thank companies, but they did not BOO MARY. :rolleyes:

Hmm...you must have watched a different ceremony.

Billy Moonshine
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Why boo Sony?
Who do they think is dishing out the cash to put on tourny and pay the girls so they can sit there and watch tennis?

hablo
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:52 PM
:yawn: more French bashing :yawn:

natacha1
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:54 PM
The crowd is just to rude, they booed everything the whole 2 weeks, it is terrible.

arn
Jun 4th, 2005, 03:58 PM
Doesn't really matter what they booed but it wasn't appropriated. It's players' job to thank sponsors. Womens tennis is lucky to have Ericsson.

I agree, It was just to answer on some saying they booed Sony cos it's not a french company, has nothing to do with it.

alwayshingis
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:00 PM
:rolleyes:

They weren't booing the players or their speeches. It wasn't rude, it was actually pretty normal in France. People who think it is rude are coming at it with an American perspective that sees booing as more rudeness than an expression of opinion.

Bероника
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:01 PM
:yawn: more French bashing :yawn:

yeah the french-bashers are really boring...

Fanny
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:06 PM
We can see you are not Frenchman. In Belgium (i'm belgian) like in France, when you make a speech, there is an semi-official rule : you aren't allowed to mention a sponsor. You can't say the name. But it's not so important.

Calimero377
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:06 PM
Doesn't really matter what they booed but it wasn't appropriated. It's players' job to thank sponsors. Womens tennis is lucky to have Ericsson.


You can thank the sponsors at Hilton Head, Rome, Toronto or Tokyo.
But not at a European slam tournament with a great tradition.
Do it - and you get booed.
And rightfully so!

Those WTA jerks never will understand ...

ginger_fish668
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:07 PM
I have to add that Justine's expression made me laugh. :lol: So cute! :)

Tylane
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:26 PM
you have no humor and you're very stupid, it wasn't nasty of the crowd, just funny and the players weren't offensed at all !

auntie janie
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:27 PM
Justine looked relieved when Mary got the same boos she did for mentioning Sony! :D

Fantastic
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:46 PM
:rolleyes:

How ridiculous. Of all the silly things to boo. You'd think France was some backward-progressing third world nation still living in the Middle Ages. Note to French spectators: Get over it. The players standing before you owe their livelihoods to Sony Ericsson for sponsoring their tour. I don't recall them ever booing when Corel, Porsche, Kraft, Sanex or Virginia Slims was the main sponsor of the tour.

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:49 PM
Read what I wrote ;)

I think he cant read, he says the same in all threads without reading the answers he gets :rolleyes:

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Justine looked relieved when Mary got the same boos she did for mentioning Sony! :D

They both expected the reaction of the crow and were not chocked by it... Its just a difference of culture between Anglo-saxon countries and Latin ones.
With a French brand, it would have been the same. Furtunately some people are open-minded and can take culture into consideration ;)

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:55 PM
I don't really know about Justine because I wasn't paying attention to what she said, but the crowd didn't boo Mary.

They did too :rolleyes:

minboy
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:03 PM
What they fail to realize is if they were no sponsors, there would be no tournaments, and no RG.
Culture doesn't excuse rudeness

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:08 PM
What they fail to realize is if they were no sponsors, there would be no tournaments, and no RG.
Culture doesn't excuse rudeness

Its possible to have sponsors without speaking about them in the speeches. Another difference of cultures... ;)

minboy
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:22 PM
Its possible to have sponsors without speaking about them in the speeches. Another difference of cultures... ;)

What's the point of sponsoring an event if no one mentions the name of the company?
They could as well get rid of the BNP-Paribas advert in the back of the courts then.

Calimero377
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:33 PM
you have no humor and you're very stupid, it wasn't nasty of the crowd, just funny and the players weren't offensed at all !


Exactly!

:)

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:35 PM
What's the point of sponsoring an event if no one mentions the name of the company?
They could as well get rid of the BNP-Paribas advert in the back of the courts then.

There are many other ways of mentioning a sponsor but to do it in a speech. You gave one example with the adverts in the courts.
Note that Im not arguing about whether its a good thing or not to mention the sponsor like Justine and Mary did (anyway they contractually have to do it), Im just trying to explain the reaction of the crow to people that cant open their mind to other tradition. Another example: in France, its totally taboo to declare your salary publicly. And dont speak about the salary of the bosses! :devil:

auntie janie
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:41 PM
I wish there was less emphasis on the MONEY side of things in the US.

At Roland Garros or at Wimbledon it would be considered extremely crass to make the handing over of a gigantic check the big highlight of the victory ceremony. I appreciate the emphasis in Europe on the grandeur of the event itself, and on the honoring of the two players, rather than on how much money they each earned that day. I cringe when they bring that big check out! :(

So I guess I belong in Europe!

But of course the WTA insists that the players mention the sponsors in their speeches, so they do it everywhere, whether it is tolerated by that society or not. As Ceze said, the players must be aware of the cultural situation, so they just say what they have to say, accept the booing, and move on.

Vive la différence!

*JR*
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:44 PM
Of course they didn't boo Mary, and neither did they boo Justine. It was directed at Sony Ericsson. But they did boo during BOTH Justine and Mary's speeches. That's what I meant. :)
Perhaps what they don't like is the ova-bearing nature of a "title sponsorship", as opposed to sponsors in general. As in every press release (and some WHORE reporters who parrot them) constantly referring to "the Sony-Ericsson WTA".

(I don't mean @ RG, which like all Slams is run by the ITF, I mean re. regular tournaments). If I were @ the Super Bowl, the league were called the "Daimler Chrysler NFL", and the winning coach mentioned it on the PA system, you bet I'd boo.

saby
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:51 PM
We don't have same culture that is all, they did boo both players but only because they talked about sponsor.

It's about sports here not sponsors, politics, money....

french crowd "boo" some players but don't you do the same during football matches or whatever sports you are watching.

If you think I'm wrong well just read a newspaper and you will see what happens all around the world in sports competitions !!!

Well I guess you didn't even understand that when Mary talked about the sponsor, right after she said some words and the french crowd laughed because she made them understand she had to do it and they forgave her.

Only people who knows french culture will understand the french reaction

cellophane
Jun 4th, 2005, 05:54 PM
Mary should switch to PoliteCanada. :lol:

mand
Jun 4th, 2005, 06:07 PM
We can see you are not Frenchman. In Belgium (i'm belgian) like in France, when you make a speech, there is an semi-official rule : you aren't allowed to mention a sponsor. You can't say the name. But it's not so important.
Exactly.

Are they nuts to force the players to mention the sponsors during their speeches anyway ?! Hello, it's Roland Garros, who gives a damn about Sony E. ? It sounded so fake and forced, it was ridiculous. You win RG and you thank the sponsor ? Even before your family and the crowd ? Give me a break already, it's just something you don't do.

All the french bashers are so fucking tiresome. Just because you don't like a certain culture don't give you the right to insult a whole nation. Some people think the booing is "rude" just because it's something that is viewed differently in their country. Who cares ? It's Paris, so adapt yourself and try to understand why they're doing it. 99% of the time, it's absolutely not hostile, it's just a way for a crowd to express :rolleyes: Maybe some people should stop taking things so personnally. Breathe and relax. If you want to know how it feels to be really booed during RG, ask Martina Hingis, she knows.

When people watch the USO they have to bear the music between games, it's how it is in the USA and wether you like it or not you adapt yourself to it and shut up. When you see all those people half-asleep in Wimby who look like they don't give a dam about what's going on on the court, you adapt and understand it's how it happens in England. Same in Paris, try to understand the atmosphere and adapt. If you don't like it change the fucking channel.

And NO they didn't boo Mary & Justine :rolleyes: They booed the damn sponsor no-one gives a damn about who force players to mention them during speeches. To hell Sony E.

saby
Jun 4th, 2005, 06:08 PM
désespérant
c'est incroyable la stupidité que les gens se trinballent

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 06:24 PM
désespérant
c'est incroyable la stupidité que les gens se trinballent

:haha:

NaturalBlues
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:11 PM
Exactly.

Are they nuts to force the players to mention the sponsors during their speeches anyway ?! Hello, it's Roland Garros, who gives a damn about Sony E. ? It sounded so fake and forced, it was ridiculous. You win RG and you thank the sponsor ? Even before your family and the crowd ? Give me a break already, it's just something you don't do.

All the french bashers are so fucking tiresome. Just because you don't like a certain culture don't give you the right to insult a whole nation. Some people think the booing is "rude" just because it's something that is viewed differently in their country. Who cares ? It's Paris, so adapt yourself and try to understand why they're doing it. 99% of the time, it's absolutely not hostile, it's just a way for a crowd to express :rolleyes: Maybe some people should stop taking things so personnally. Breathe and relax. If you want to know how it feels to be really booed during RG, ask Martina Hingis, she knows.

When people watch the USO they have to bear the music between games, it's how it is in the USA and wether you like it or not you adapt yourself to it and shut up. When you see all those people half-asleep in Wimby who look like they don't give a dam about what's going on on the court, you adapt and understand it's how it happens in England. Same in Paris, try to understand the atmosphere and adapt. If you don't like it change the fucking channel.

And NO they didn't boo Mary & Justine :rolleyes: They booed the damn sponsor no-one gives a damn about who force players to mention them during speeches. To hell Sony E.

Finally some sense! *applauds*

SelesFan70
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:14 PM
I think the French are just perpetual boo'ers. :shrug: I'm wonder how many were wearing Levi's while boo'ing Sony Ericson? :tape:

harloo
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:20 PM
The players would be best to thank Sony after every tournament because the women have played some sorry ass tennis this year. I'm sorry but they should thank god that they have a sponser.

ys
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:22 PM
Sure booing is not stupid.. I am sure crowd really wanted to see Petrova-Likhovtseva final instead.. :lol:

Calimero377
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:24 PM
Exactly.

Are they nuts to force the players to mention the sponsors during their speeches anyway ?! Hello, it's Roland Garros, who gives a damn about Sony E. ? It sounded so fake and forced, it was ridiculous. You win RG and you thank the sponsor ? Even before your family and the crowd ? Give me a break already, it's just something you don't do.

All the french bashers are so fucking tiresome. Just because you don't like a certain culture don't give you the right to insult a whole nation. Some people think the booing is "rude" just because it's something that is viewed differently in their country. Who cares ? It's Paris, so adapt yourself and try to understand why they're doing it. 99% of the time, it's absolutely not hostile, it's just a way for a crowd to express :rolleyes: Maybe some people should stop taking things so personnally. Breathe and relax. If you want to know how it feels to be really booed during RG, ask Martina Hingis, she knows.

When people watch the USO they have to bear the music between games, it's how it is in the USA and wether you like it or not you adapt yourself to it and shut up. When you see all those people half-asleep in Wimby who look like they don't give a dam about what's going on on the court, you adapt and understand it's how it happens in England. Same in Paris, try to understand the atmosphere and adapt. If you don't like it change the fucking channel.

And NO they didn't boo Mary & Justine :rolleyes: They booed the damn sponsor no-one gives a damn about who force players to mention them during speeches. To hell Sony E.



:yeah:

améliemomo
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:24 PM
yeah the french-bashers are really boring...


so boring with a lot of prejudices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!shame.

Calimero377
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:28 PM
I think the French are just perpetual boo'ers. :shrug: I'm wonder how many were wearing Levi's while boo'ing Sony Ericson? :tape:


At the USO people walk around in the stands DURING play!
They talk during play!!

That's far worse than a little bit booing, IMO.

mishar
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:31 PM
I don't understand the defensiveness of the French people here. There are many many things I criticize about the U.S. and about the U.S. open. Like Janie, I cringe when they bring out the big check. Also the general showbiz hoopla I dislike intensely. So why is criticizing the French crowd somehow anti-French? They may not like the mention of a sponsor, why boo? Is it so heinous that the WTA after years of struggling has financial sponsorship?

France has a magnificent cultural history, most of which is based around criticizing the French themselves. (See Stendhal, Flaubert, Voltaire, Baudelaire.) The capacity for self-criticism is a sign of greatness. And I can only imagine what Stendhal or Flaubert would say about the current fantasy of the Paris bourgeoisie that they are somehow above mercantile capitalism.

Calimero377
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:33 PM
so boring with a lot of prejudices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!shame.


We should bash the French for their weapon sales to the Saddam regime.
And for their intransigence when the U.S. tried to gain multilateral support from the U.N. against Saddam.

But in tennis-related matters the French are :yeah:

I fondly remember their support for the greatest-ever in the 87, 92, 95, 96 & 99 finals at Roland Garros ...

mishar
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:36 PM
At the USO people walk around in the stands DURING play!
They talk during play!!

That's far worse than a little bit booing, IMO.

I agree. I just attended the French Open for the first time and as a frequent visitor to Flushing Meadows, I can say that in almost all ways it was better. The crowd was more tennis-knowledable, the smaller stadiums were very nice and intimate, the food was better. I have no national prejudice when it comes to admitting this.

On the side of NY, a ticket to the center court gets you into all the stadiums, which I prefer, and the crowd is not as jingoistic. There are occasions (eg Capriati) when the crowd is very pro-American, but it's nothing like Paris. I attended the 99 match of Pierce v. Davenport in NY and while the crowd cheered for Lindsay, many cheered for Mary as well. I've many times cheered for my favorite players there, such as Amelie and Justine. At the same match on Tuesday, when my friend uttered a few tepid "go Lindsay!" we got comments and glares from the people around us. It felt like a rabid mob.

K.U.C.W-R.V
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:43 PM
They didn't boo Justine nor Mary nor the company, they just didn't like to hear the annualy thank-the-sponsors-talk

No sponsors = no event.

I dont forsee the French taxpayer stumping up for tournament expenses/prizemoney etc.

Its a two way street - sponsors benefit from being associated with prestigious event & the event gets the funding it needs.

I dont get it but then I dont dream of a socialist workers paradise.

améliemomo
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:44 PM
We should bash the French for their weapon sales to the Saddam regime.
And for their intransigence when the U.S. tried to gain multilateral support from the U.N. against Saddam.

But in tennis-related matters the French are :yeah:

I fondly remember their support for the greatest-ever in the 87, 92, 95, 96 & 99 finals at Roland Garros ...

Hope you are joking lol.If not that sure that we dont live in the same "world".

To mix policy with sport is worst than mix sport with money in a finale of grand slam.

-Sonic-
Jun 4th, 2005, 08:08 PM
Booooooooooooooooo @ the bashers

Booooooooooooooooo @ the crowd

Booooooooooooooooo @ the lack of a competitive final

The french girl at my workplace is my fav :) I'll ask her about it. Today I was learning what noises the french say that animals make. Even our pets have different accents heheh.

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 08:14 PM
Booooooooooooooooo @ the bashers

Booooooooooooooooo @ the crowd

Booooooooooooooooo @ the lack of a competitive final

The french girl at my workplace is my fav :) I'll ask her about it. Today I was learning what noises the french say that animals make. Even our pets have different accents heheh.

:haha: you find the same in Italy, Spain, Germany, and so on. Each language has its own specificities. Ask your French colleague the French equivalence to the English onomatopoeias, its funny too ;)

Natasha250688
Jun 4th, 2005, 08:37 PM
I understand when they boo @ somebody who's playing against a Frenchman/woman but they booed Nadal against Federer when Nadal asked for a towel after he tripped. :shrug: :confused: I really don't understand that!
:lol: @ JHH in her speech saying it was a great "public" :tape:

Allez-H
Jun 4th, 2005, 08:47 PM
I understand when they boo @ somebody who's playing against a Frenchman/woman but they booed Nadal against Federer when Nadal asked for a towel after he tripped. :shrug: :confused: I really don't understand that!
:lol: @ JHH in her speech saying it was a great "publique" :tape:
Well it was a great publique for her since they were behind her while aaaaaall her matches and they didn't boo her while this match, but only when they heard Sony Ericsson come outta her mouth :tape:

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Well it was a great publique for her since they were behind her while aaaaaall her matches and they didn't boo her while this match, but only when they heard Sony Ericsson come outta her mouth :tape:

In French, its "public" not "publique" ;)

Natasha250688
Jun 4th, 2005, 09:01 PM
In French, its "public" not "publique" ;)

Yeah, sorry, publique is an adjective and public is a noun

Ceze
Jun 4th, 2005, 09:09 PM
Yeah, sorry, publique is an adjective and public is a noun
:yeah:

Tylane
Jun 4th, 2005, 09:18 PM
I understand when they boo @ somebody who's playing against a Frenchman/woman but they booed Nadal against Federer when Nadal asked for a towel after he tripped. :shrug: :confused: I really don't understand that!
:lol: @ JHH in her speech saying it was a great "public" :tape:


Justine uses to say the parisian crowd is fantastic and the general atmosphere here is great etc... she was asked about the vrowd before the final and she didn't fear a bad reaction she was sure the crowd was going to be nice.

Sorry guys but there are players like Henin, Federer, who think the french crowd is great. :D

stenen
Jun 4th, 2005, 10:12 PM
Exactly.

Are they nuts to force the players to mention the sponsors during their speeches anyway ?! Hello, it's Roland Garros, who gives a damn about Sony E. ? It sounded so fake and forced, it was ridiculous. You win RG and you thank the sponsor ? Even before your family and the crowd ? Give me a break already, it's just something you don't do.



Sony Ericsson wasn't even a sponsor of Roland Garros so why thank them? :o

jcaprulez
Jun 4th, 2005, 10:13 PM
Yeah and they wonder why everyone hates the french

richie boy
Jun 4th, 2005, 10:17 PM
so boring with a lot of prejudices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!shame.


"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me."
General George S. Patton

stenen
Jun 4th, 2005, 10:27 PM
Yeah and they wonder why everyone hates the french

What are you trying to say that nearly 6 billion people hate the French? :eek:
Also there are nearly 59 million people in France of which the great majority are French nationals. Maybe one shouldn't compare the whole nation to crowd of Roland Garros?

Most of the Frenchies I know are very nice. But like anywhere in the world there are idiots in France too.

cheo23
Jun 5th, 2005, 08:05 AM
Exactly.

Are they nuts to force the players to mention the sponsors during their speeches anyway ?! Hello, it's Roland Garros, who gives a damn about Sony E. ? It sounded so fake and forced, it was ridiculous. You win RG and you thank the sponsor ? Even before your family and the crowd ? Give me a break already, it's just something you don't do.

All the french bashers are so fucking tiresome. Just because you don't like a certain culture don't give you the right to insult a whole nation. Some people think the booing is "rude" just because it's something that is viewed differently in their country. Who cares ? It's Paris, so adapt yourself and try to understand why they're doing it. 99% of the time, it's absolutely not hostile, it's just a way for a crowd to express :rolleyes: Maybe some people should stop taking things so personnally. Breathe and relax. If you want to know how it feels to be really booed during RG, ask Martina Hingis, she knows.

When people watch the USO they have to bear the music between games, it's how it is in the USA and wether you like it or not you adapt yourself to it and shut up. When you see all those people half-asleep in Wimby who look like they don't give a dam about what's going on on the court, you adapt and understand it's how it happens in England. Same in Paris, try to understand the atmosphere and adapt. If you don't like it change the fucking channel.

And NO they didn't boo Mary & Justine :rolleyes: They booed the damn sponsor no-one gives a damn about who force players to mention them during speeches. To hell Sony E.
OH My GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!1 :haha:

Say NO MoRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! :lol:

GO MAND!!!!!!!!! WE LOVE U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hearts:

Filip!
Jun 5th, 2005, 08:18 AM
It was just a same, booing during the speeches of the winner and the runner up of RG '05. Sad!

gsm
Jun 5th, 2005, 08:42 AM
i pitty the FO crowd , sooo pathetic.

it seems that 90% of the people trying to justify booing are french.

IMO , is no doubt that the vast majority of the world think the booing that goes on at the FO is pathetic.

the FO crowd are continually reinforcing the stereotype that french people are;

pompous and obnoxious.

:)

gopher
Jun 5th, 2005, 09:29 AM
pompous and obnoxious.


Yes and worse still thinking they are at the center of the universe while the country is sliding into decay...

bee
Jun 5th, 2005, 11:09 AM
I think the people just don't liked tennis players thanking their sponsors...in their acceptance speeches...

actors don't thank their clothing sponsors during their oscar's speeches... :)

rockbottom
Jun 5th, 2005, 11:24 AM
I think the people just don't liked tennis players thanking their sponsors...in their acceptance speeches...

actors don't thank their clothing sponsors during their oscar's speeches... :)
that's because clothing sponsors don't write their paychecks Einstein.

Chunchun
Jun 5th, 2005, 11:25 AM
:eek: French boo Mary!?!?!?

alibaby
Jun 5th, 2005, 11:55 AM
Nah, because they congratulated Sonny Erickson the sponsor which the crowd didn't appreciate : that's it .
you are right!that was the reason.i saw it too.why should they boo,after half french and a belgian fought out the final?? :confused:

Ceze
Jun 5th, 2005, 12:06 PM
Yes and worse still thinking they are at the center of the universe while the country is sliding into decay...

I think Id better abandon... Never read such a level of stupidity and lack of open-mindedness in only one sentence :rolleyes: I wonder who is the most arrogant: the crowd that booed during the speeches (and yes, you have the right to think it was stupid) or such an author who cant stop uttering abuses (foolishness has its limits!) :retard:
A bit of advice: when you are in a different country, try to adapt to the way of live of its inhabitants, instead of trying to convert them to your own culture... and try to understand why they behave like they do (culture, history, context, etc), and you'll see, that will appear less stupid, even to you ;)

Ceze
Jun 5th, 2005, 12:17 PM
you are right!that was the reason.i saw it too.why should they boo,after half french and a belgian fought out the final?? :confused:

That was not a "big boo". The French crowd are culturally often anti-establishment, and are not used to hear the name of a sponsor in speeches. In France, some say that you dont have to mix sport and money, but its bad faith cause without sponsors, no great tournaments. Its a kind of insinuation really common in France. The same taboo for the salary, etc.
For further explanation, please report to previous posts. But do not mix this boo and the one during a match invoving a French player (which boo is often too excessive and chauvinistic) :rolleyes:

Hope Ive been clear enough ;)

Rub
Jun 5th, 2005, 02:22 PM
the french crowd are a bit overacting! :wavey:

jenny161185
Jun 5th, 2005, 02:36 PM
Justine looked so confused when they booed as if what did i say?

Veritas
Jun 5th, 2005, 02:52 PM
I don't care whether it was "culturally offensive" for the French when someone decides to name a sponsor in their speech. I sure as hell didn't look as if they remotely cared about the feelings of players like Arantxa Sanchez Vicario, Martina Hingis or Serena Williams when they took it upon themselves to verbally rip them to shreds - and on a public arena, no less. And now, we're suddenly expected to be 'culturally sensitive' to the RG crowd because booing happens to be a part of their culture? :yawn:

tennisrox
Jun 5th, 2005, 02:58 PM
The french crowd is crazy...

Veritas
Jun 5th, 2005, 03:02 PM
And wtf is wrong with mentioning Sony Ericsson's name anyway? As far as I'm concerned, there haven't been any reports of the company being involved in seedy activities, like slave labour or something remotely worse.

turt
Jun 5th, 2005, 03:46 PM
And wtf is wrong with mentioning Sony Ericsson's name anyway? As far as I'm concerned, there haven't been any reports of the company being involved in seedy activities, like slave labour or something remotely worse.
Maybe they want everyone to buy their crap Sagem mobile phones :lol:

BTW I have recently purchased the new Sony Ericsson K750i (http://www.sonyericsson.com/cebit/flash.html), it's the best phone ever :D

Ceze
Jun 5th, 2005, 03:50 PM
I don't care whether it was "culturally offensive" for the French when someone decides to name a sponsor in their speech. I sure as hell didn't look as if they remotely cared about the feelings of players like Arantxa Sanchez Vicario, Martina Hingis or Serena Williams when they took it upon themselves to verbally rip them to shreds - and on a public arena, no less. And now, we're suddenly expected to be 'culturally sensitive' to the RG crowd because booing happens to be a part of their culture? :yawn:
You have the right to find this behaviour stupid, Im just trying to explain the reaction of the crowd to some people that gave wrong explanation. Nobody tells you to be culturally sensitive to the RG crowd, stop telling non-sense! :retard:
But some people are so "inquisitive" in this thread, that they really need to be put in their place... But once again, you have the right to think what you want about the behaviour of the crowd (and the crowd has the right to boo as well :tape: ). France is a country of freedom as well as Australia or US are... :rolleyes:

Ceze
Jun 5th, 2005, 03:52 PM
And wtf is wrong with mentioning Sony Ericsson's name anyway? As far as I'm concerned, there haven't been any reports of the company being involved in seedy activities, like slave labour or something remotely worse.
You should read previous posts to get your answer :( To summarize, its not because its Sony Ericson, it could have been a French brand as well, the result would have been the same :rolleyes:

mand
Jun 5th, 2005, 03:55 PM
I don't care whether it was "culturally offensive" for the French when someone decides to name a sponsor in their speech.
Oh, baby.... If it can possibly make you feel better, go write a book about it. French culture is what it is, your crying won't change it.

Remind me to start a "americans are so rude" thread during the USO whenever a song is played between two games. :rolleyes:

turt
Jun 5th, 2005, 04:01 PM
You should read previous posts to get your answer :( To summarize, its not because its Sony Ericson, it could have been a French brand as well, the result would have been the same :rolleyes:
Well they don't boo Gaz De France in the GDF Open though...

ozfan44
Jun 5th, 2005, 04:05 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Right back at ya - u french idiots!!

without sponsors you would not have a grand slam stupid fools

Bероника
Jun 5th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Right back at ya - u french idiots!!

without sponsors you would not have a grand slam stupid fools

of course generalising french people makes you so much less idiot :rolleyes: yeah,right:rolleyes:

Ceze
Jun 5th, 2005, 04:32 PM
of course generalising french people makes you so much less idiot :rolleyes: yeah,right:rolleyes:

:yeah:

jlamire
Jun 5th, 2005, 05:04 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Right back at ya - u french idiots!!

without sponsors you would not have a grand slam stupid fools

That's why I like sometimes those newsgroups...A great bunch of stupid posters that are expressing themselves...I think it would more funny if we could see them during their real life...ah aha ha ha :lol:
Have fun everybody I go back to my little life of stupid french!

Ceze
Jun 5th, 2005, 05:11 PM
That's why I like sometimes those newsgroups...A great bunch of stupid posters that are expressing themselves...I think it would more funny if we could see them during their real life...ah aha ha ha :lol:
Have fun everybody I go back to my little life of stupid french!
:lol: I wonder why so many of these posters come from Australian... Are they in bad mood cause its winter there? :confused: Keep cool, the weather is not so cool in Europe too ;)

Veritas
Jun 6th, 2005, 02:41 AM
Oh, baby.... If it can possibly make you feel better, go write a book about it. French culture is what it is, your crying won't change it.

I don't need to write a book about it, because it's already apparent to any sane person that booing is a rude and insulting gesture.

But if you insist that publicly humiliating a tennis player is perfectly fine, then I've nothing more to say :kiss:

And since when did I say that I was gonna 'change' what's "obviously" so unique and conspicuous about "French culture"? :lol:

Remind me to start a "americans are so rude" thread during the USO whenever a song is played between two games. :rolleyes:

Let's get one thing straight - I ain't criticising "French culture" as a whole, because I know that booing isn't something that only the RG crowd do.

You jump on people's back for criticising "French culture", yet you're so quick to point out what's wrong with America's :rolleyes: :tape:

And you don't get it, do you? Booing someone for what they say or do is different to playing a song - in this instance, nobody's integrity is under attack. Booing is an insult and it is offensive - playing a song isn't. It's as bad as cheering people for the mistake they make (ala, Ana Ivanovic).

It may be 'insensitive' in "French culture" for people to start mentioning sponsors and their salary figures. But it's worse to start humiliating someone who obviously havn't got a clue about what's 'insensitve' or not to the RG crowd.

Oh, and woe is the RG crowd. We should all feel sorry for the criticisms they get for their booing. Why, it isn't fair that we're not remotely considerate of their 'culture', when we all know that the RG crowds are so sensitive and welcoming towards the feelings of tennis players like Serena Williams or Arantxa Sanchez Vicario.

Come back when you have some sense drilled through your thick skull :)

Veritas
Jun 6th, 2005, 02:43 AM
You should read previous posts to get your answer :( To summarize, its not because its Sony Ericson, it could have been a French brand as well, the result would have been the same :rolleyes:

Uh, it was actually in response to someone who said:

who gives a damn about Sony E.

and (my personal favourite):

To hell Sony E.

Veritas
Jun 6th, 2005, 03:03 AM
You have the right to find this behaviour stupid, Im just trying to explain the reaction of the crowd to some people that gave wrong explanation. Nobody tells you to be culturally sensitive to the RG crowd, stop telling non-sense! :retard:
But some people are so "inquisitive" in this thread, that they really need to be put in their place... But once again, you have the right to think what you want about the behaviour of the crowd (and the crowd has the right to boo as well :tape: ). France is a country of freedom as well as Australia or US are... :rolleyes:

Please.

The crowd is allowed to boo - no shit. What critics are trying to say is that it's insensitive and rude to do it when someone hasn't done anything wrong.

They may not like people mentioning sponsors because they think that its the sin of the devil to do so, but I sure as hell think its equally insensitive to humiliate both Mary and Justine (and a sponsor, who's done nothing wrong to have its name slung with verbal mud) when they obviously knew they had done nothing criminal.

Jakeev
Jun 6th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Well if there was at least one interesting thing about this thread is to finally see French posters at least attempt to defend what many of us have been complaining about for many years on this and the old board.

I still don't and probably will never understand the fans that attend the French Open every year and their need to boo and hiss at what I think can be some of the most trivial situations.

But I applaud the many French tennis fans in here for at least finally speaking up on the subject.

fifiricci
Jun 6th, 2005, 11:25 AM
Oh, baby.... If it can possibly make you feel better, go write a book about it. French culture is what it is, your crying won't change it.

Remind me to start a "americans are so rude" thread during the USO whenever a song is played between two games. :rolleyes:

:lol: Nice one.

The Wimbly crowd is very well behaved, but only because its soooooo bloody cold we can't stop our teeth from chattering long enough to heckle the players :sad:

I watched the mens final yesterday (just to see at least one decent RG final this weekend :rolleyes: ) and the French crowd behaved impeccably the whole time. Presumably this was because they'd at least been entertained for over 3 hours, which was clearly not the case on Saturday .......... ;)

Ceze
Jun 6th, 2005, 06:05 PM
Please.

The crowd is allowed to boo - no shit. What critics are trying to say is that it's insensitive and rude to do it when someone hasn't done anything wrong.

They may not like people mentioning sponsors because they think that its the sin of the devil to do so, but I sure as hell think its equally insensitive to humiliate both Mary and Justine (and a sponsor, who's done nothing wrong to have its name slung with verbal mud) when they obviously knew they had done nothing criminal.
Here another big difference of interpretation: for you, the crowd humiliated both Mary and Justine. For me, it had nothing to deal with humiliation, it was not against the players, it was only a way to express its astonishment towards something they are not used to. If you look at Justine and Mary's faces during their speeches, you'd see they were not surprised at all by the reaction, and they didnt looked like they were humiliated... Another big difference in culture: boo is not necesseraly synonymous of humiliation. :rolleyes:
And once again, the subject of this thread is about the boo during the speeches. Do not mix this boo and the one in a match, which is more open to criticism...
But Im very tired to tell the same again and again to people about whom im beginning to think they dont give a damn about my arguments. I suppose these people find fault with everything that comes from France. Please tell me Im wrong :tape: !!

ozfan44
Jun 8th, 2005, 05:01 AM
i wasnt generalising all french people just the crowd!