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VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:06 AM
Just watching her play, you can see she is getting back into form. I think she will dominate the field, except for Serena and Sharapova on the hardcourts. Mark my words.

mrush
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:08 AM
she'll do good but i dont think she'll get to #1 at the end of the year. Top 3 but not #1 imo.

Also does her Olympic points come off?

thanks

tennnisfannn
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:58 AM
who dares dislodge lindsay?

@m@nd@
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:00 AM
i think maria might be better on grass and hardcourts ...so...nah..top 5 yes but probabbly not #1

Rub
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:03 AM
for sure :yeah:

wateva
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:06 AM
she has a chance... but on grass, she has to fend off lindsay, serena, maria. and on hardcourts, she has kim, elena d, etc. not forgetting kim will most probably dominate the indoor season. i'll say she'll be a fixture in the top 3. being number 1 is too early to say.

Jakeev
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:07 AM
Justine's form on clay has been without a doubt amazing. But how she does on the faster courts will remain to be seen.

She has all the shots but I still think can be dominated on court. So, we just have to wait and see.

JenFan75
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:16 AM
Naw

rottweily
Jun 3rd, 2005, 08:58 AM
The last time when there was doubt about Justine's hardcourt performance, she...

-Kieron-
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:07 AM
Definitely top five, but not sure about number one position yet. She is the best player out there at the moment.

SJW
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:09 AM
she'll have a harder time on the hardcourts than the slow stuff...grass is only one tourney and i dont see her beating Serena or Sharapova on that...HC, well she's not really playing that much i dont think.

turt
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:13 AM
The last time when there was doubt about Justine's hardcourt performance, she...
... won 2 GS, 2 Tier I, the Olympics, 3 Tier II, and lost only one match (in a Tier II SF) on hardcourts ;)

So we can assume she'll do just fine ;)


For those who will say Rebound ace is no hardcourt ( :tape: ), then there's still 1 GS, 2 Tier I, the Olympics and 2 Tier II in the list ;)

Whatzup
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:16 AM
If she will be injury free for the rest of the year she will for sure end this year as #1! She is mental and physical so strong! Sometimes if I see her play she is constructing points in a way that her opponents will make the faults! She can just disrupt their games!

Rub
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:25 AM
she's gonna be number one for sure...

Buitenzorg
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:27 AM
I predict Year End Ranking

1. Davenport
2. Henin-Hardenne
3. Serena
4. Sharapova
5. Mauresmo

rikvanlooy
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:43 AM
i think maria might be better on grass and hardcourts ...so...nah..top 5 yes but probabbly not #1

I am asking myself the question if everybody knows how the rankings work.

JHH is already leader in the Race to the Championship, so the others will have to do better than her if they want to overtake her.

Nobody comes even close to her at the moment (yes, I know, she had a lot of close calls and a lot of hard matches).

I wouldn't say that Miami means all that much, but the last TI tournaments JHH didn't win were twice at Miami. The surface and the environment there clearly doesn't suit her kind of play.

And we still have to see if she is going to lose at Wimbledon. The last three times there JHH reached at least the semi final. And with a 28-29 winning (qf) streak I imagine that she is going to have a little bit of confidence at the latter stages of that slam.

rikvanlooy
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:45 AM
I predict Year End Ranking

1. Davenport
2. Henin-Hardenne
3. Serena
4. Sharapova
5. Mauresmo

So Davenport is going to do better than JHH the rest of the season.

Yeah right ! :rolleyes:

mr_burns
Jun 3rd, 2005, 11:26 AM
Davenport will play more tournaments this summer, so she has a chance. After Wimbleon it could be very close between maria, lindsay and justine

Serena ist out for number one

jrm
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:13 PM
I don't know why but i don't see JHH doing well (for her standards winning) on hard courts.

_LuCaS_
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:39 PM
#1 in the race...likely.
#1 in the rankings NO (Olympics pts. come off > 435)

kabuki
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:58 PM
I don't think Justine is planning to play enough tournaments to reach number 1. Her health is more important anyway.

Lady
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:59 PM
#1 in the race...likely.
#1 in the rankings NO (Olympics pts. come off > 435)

If she is #1 in the race by the end of the year, that means she will be #1 in the ranking as well. She'll have less then 17 tournaments, so it can't be other way.

turt
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:02 PM
If she is #1 in the race by the end of the year, that means she will be #1 in the ranking as well. She'll have less then 17 tournaments, so it can't be other way.
There's too much logic in this, we're in GM don't forget ;)

wateva
Jun 3rd, 2005, 03:45 PM
she's the best player now, no doubt about it. but let's not jinx her! :)

natacha1
Jun 3rd, 2005, 03:53 PM
I hope she will become number one again :)

nicky007
Jun 3rd, 2005, 03:59 PM
I don't really care about her being number 1 or not, I would prefer her to win the GS.

jfk
Jun 3rd, 2005, 04:03 PM
Davenport can remain year-end #1 if she can do better than her SF finishes at Wimbledon and the US Open. That should balance out the loss of points she'll take from the summer hardcourt season...with the return of the Belgians, I don't see her winning every single event she enters, but she should do well enough to not completely take herself out of the running for #1.

Sharapova has a ton of points to gain in the summer hardcourt season. But, she also has a lot of points to lose at the year-ending championships and in the month preceding the event. Because she has so many points to gain, she could make #1 without winning events...runnerup finishes at the American tournaments could do the trick.

Henin-Hardenne is the other possibility, but she needs to play enough tournaments. Winning 5 more big events and a number of good finishes might be enough to overcome the lack of points from the start of the season.

SjuTjuD
Jun 3rd, 2005, 04:27 PM
It will be Justine, Maria, Lindsay, Serena, Kim, Amelie.

Martian KC
Jun 3rd, 2005, 04:52 PM
Don't you dare tryto jynx.

Derek.
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:02 PM
Her play is amazing because of clay. It will be much harder for her to say.. whoop Sharapova's *** :devil: on grass and hardcourt. :p But she can be top 3 for sure. No.1 is up for grabs this year. I don't think Lind-z can hang on.

jfk
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:15 PM
It will be Justine, Maria, Lindsay, Serena, Kim, Amelie.
That would be my prediction as well, though the top 3 could go in any order. It would be one of the strongest "top 6's" ever IMO. Add Kuznetsova and Dementieva, who would likely follow them to form an extremely strong top 8. Talent-wise and career-wise, Capriati and Venus should complete the top 10. I hope that can be the top ten sometime next year before Lindsay retires and the teens like Ivanovic storm the ranks.

shap_half
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:16 PM
i think maria might be better on grass and hardcourts ...so...nah..top 5 yes but probabbly not #1


Sorry, but Maria is only marginally better on grass. Justine is more than capable of beating her. Maria's only advantage is that her groundstrokes are far stronger than Justine on a more consistent basis. Justine however slices better, uses angles better, and is a better net player.

On hardcourt, how many titles on hardcourt has Maria won (you know, that's not a Tier III)?

Fingon
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:49 PM
#1 in the race...likely.
#1 in the rankings NO (Olympics pts. come off > 435)

:retard:

Fingon
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:01 PM
Even with Olympics pts off? Don't think so

ok, where do I start?

She is currently # 1 in the race. by year end, the race and the rankings are equivalent, except for the 17 tournaments limit.

She has an advantage now, what people have said is that the other have to catch up, she has the pole position at the moment.
Olympics points are irrelevant, because we are not saying that she is currently # 7 (after RG) and is so many points behind # 1 and therefore she has to close the gap, what we are saying is that at the end of the year, rankings are equal to the race + YEC points - tournaments in excess of 17. Since Justine is not likely to reach the 17 tournaments mark this year that would play in her favour rather than against.
I am not saying she will be # 1, I don't think she will, but the Olympics points (or the US Open or whatever other points) are completely irrelevant in this argument. If you are using current rankings for draw conclusions, then they are indeed important but if you are projecting the points earned so far (the race) then it's completely irrelevant.
In addition, even if you use current rankings, yes, Justine won't be able to defend 400+ points she earned at the Olympics, while players like Davenport won't drop anything but, Justine on the other hand will be able to play tournaments she did not play last year, Wimbledon (huge), the US and Canada hardcourt events (San Diego and Canadian open togethere can be around 900 points), and the entire indoor season, including the YEC, plus the US Open that she played handicapped last year.
Talking about points coming off, Davenport has huge points coming off, the fact that she will be able to "try" to defend those points doesn't mean that she will, this year Kim and Justine will play, and Maria's game on hardcourts has improved considerably, so will Davenport again win Stanford, San Diego and LA?, possible but far from certain, the same way Justine can win San Diego or Canadian Open (that she has won before) and that would compensate for the loss of the olympics points, add to that that just going one round ahead in the US Open would mean a huge difference and the entire indoors season, included the inflated YEC points and you get the picture.
Again, I think she more likely will end in the top 3 than # 1, you can argue it many ways but don't use the drop of olympics points because it's absolutely irrelevant.

arn
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:01 PM
#1 in the race...likely.
#1 in the rankings NO (Olympics pts. come off > 435)

Don't you see there's something wrong with your logic? With the same way of thinking you could say;

*Davenport will not be #1 cos she has lots of summer hardcourt points to defend
*Sharapova will not be #1 cos she has wimbledon + YEC to defend
*Mauresmo also has to defend more points as Justine has to.
*Serena Williams has more points to defend for the rest of the year than Justine
*....

So to conclude; Justine would be #1 cos she has the most points of everybody at this point and has the least points that come of

:smash:

lindsayno1
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:28 PM
well i thought justine wasnt playing us hardcourt season?!

who dares dislodge lindsay? indeed!

DA FOREHAND
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:39 PM
Don't you see there's something wrong with your logic? With the same way of thinking you could say;

*Davenport will not be #1 cos she has lots of summer hardcourt points to defend
*Sharapova will not be #1 cos she has wimbledon + YEC to defend
*Mauresmo also has to defend more points as Justine has to.
*Serena Williams has more points to defend for the rest of the year than Justine
*....

So to conclude; Justine would be #1 cos she has the most points of everybody at this point and has the least points that come of

:smash:

Wasn't there an article that stated Justine is skipping the American HC season, except the US Open?

Helen Lawson
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:41 PM
My days of being No. 1 at the box office are long over, but I wish Justine all the best!

arn
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:49 PM
Wasn't there an article that stated Justine is skipping the American HC season, except the US Open?

Yeah, that's what Carlos said, but she will still play the canadian open en San Diego :)

ace4lleykim
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:50 PM
I don't think she'll be No.1 since she said that she will play less in the second half of the year, she will only play the major tourneys. But I think she will be in the top 5.

turt
Jun 3rd, 2005, 06:52 PM
Wasn't there an article that stated Justine is skipping the American HC season, except the US Open?
There was a bullshit article saying this indeed, but her coach stated right after that article was published, that Justine will likely play San Diego and Canadian Open (just like in 2003 BTW)