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CoryAnnAvants#1
Jun 2nd, 2005, 11:48 PM
It was confirmed today...me thinks she's using it as a tune-up to Wimbledon!!! The full entry list is below (the tournament doesn't have qualifying for some odd reason). A lot of the players in the draw aren't particularly good on grass, top seeds included, so Navy has a shot at winning a round or possibly two. GOOD LUCK TO HER...hopefully she continues to silence the haters!

Entry list

Benesova, Iveta
Bovina, Elena
Camerin, Maria Elena
Chladkova, Denisa
Dementieva, Elena
Domachowska, Marta
Dulko, Gisela
Grönefeld, Anna-Lena
Jidkova, Alina
Kirilenko, Maria
Kostanic, Jelena
Koukalova, Klara [Last year's finalist]
Krajicek, Michaëlla [WC]
Llagostera Vives, Nuria
Matevzic, Maja
Medina Garrigues, Anabel
Navratilova, Martina [WC] :eek:
Petrova, Nadia
Pierce, Mary [Defending Champion]
Randriantefy, Dally
Ruano Pascual, Virginia
Safina, Dinara
Schnyder, Patty
Shaughnessy, Meghann
Smashnova, Anna
Stopsur, Samantha
Suarez, Paola

JenFan75
Jun 2nd, 2005, 11:50 PM
Oh please...:rolleyes:

selking
Jun 2nd, 2005, 11:58 PM
Is Mandy going to go see her???

CoryAnnAvants#1
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:08 AM
Top 8 seeds for the tournament:

1. Elena Dementieva
2. Nadia Petrova
3. Patty Schnyder
4. Elena Bovina
5. Mary Pierce
6. Paola Suarez
7. Gisela Dulko
8. Dinara Safina

Only Pierce, Suarez, and Chladkova have ever been to the quarters of Wimbledon, and for Pierce and Chladkova it was back in '96 and '97. Suarez did it last year, but has sucked since then. Dementieva and Petrova hasve reached the 4th round of Wimby before, but aren't fans of grass courts. Neither are the other seeds or players in the draw. If she's on and has a generous draw, a quarterfinal is realistic.

Pengwin
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:13 AM
Martina will easily thrash everyone in this tournament and serve some bagles here :)

Derek.
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:13 AM
Top 8 seeds for the tournament:

1. Elena Dementieva
2. Nadia Petrova
3. Patty Schnyder
4. Elena Bovina
5. Mary Pierce
6. Paola Suarez
7. Gisela Dulko
8. Dinara Safina

Only Pierce, Suarez, and Chladkova have ever been to the quarters of Wimbledon, and for Pierce and Chladkova it was back in '96 and '97. Suarez did it last year, but has sucked since then. Dementieva and Petrova hasve reached the 4th round of Wimby before, but aren't fans of grass courts. Neither are the other seeds or players in the draw. If she's on and has a generous draw, a quarterfinal is realistic.

Um, Nadia likes the grass. :tape: Her serve and groundstrokes benefit from the speed.

switz
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:16 AM
she lost to dulko at wimbledon last year and has or is close to having a negative record in doubles this year.

she's a great champion but any of the top 8 seeds really shouldn't have much trouble beating her.

good luck though :)

switz
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:18 AM
i don't even know if she would defeat castano this year considering how much she improved since being walloped by martina at wimbledon

SilK
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:21 AM
The tournament is in Rosmalen, not Rotterdam...

That's an entire different region! :rolleyes:

CoryAnnAvants#1
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:22 AM
Um, Nadia likes the grass. :tape: Her serve and groundstrokes benefit from the speed.

I'm not saying she's horrible on it by any stretch, but it's where she has enjoyed the least success. She lost in the first round of Birmingham and Rotterdam last year, and benefitted from a kind draw to reach the 4th round at Wimby last year. She's had at least one really fantastic result on every surface besides grass.

She could do some damage here, maybe even win it, and if she played Martina she'd probably kick her ass. But the REAL grass court players are over at Eastbourne. The people who don't really enjoy it as much are either here at Rotterdam or practicing at the All England Club.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:24 AM
The tournament is in Rosmalen, not Rotterdam...

That's an entire different region! :rolleyes:

Changed.

selking
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:25 AM
The tournament is in Rosmalen, not Rotterdam...

That's an entire different region! :rolleyes:

:lol: well maybe mandy won't be going now.

SilK
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:25 AM
Changed.

Thank you...

As for Navy... I hope she plays doubles with Michaella! :D

switz
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:26 AM
The tournament is in Rosmalen, not Rotterdam...

That's an entire different region! :rolleyes:

yeah i was thinking they had made the men's tournament a women's one as well.

raquel
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:34 AM
Good luck Martina :yeah:

bello
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:46 AM
Good on her!!

She hardly needs the moeny of the career stats, and she is fairly competitive still...so if she enjoys playing still then let her be!!

And as for youngsters and Martina using up a place in the draw...they have plenty of time and chances..!

tennislover
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:12 AM
the legend goes on

RenaSlam.
Jun 3rd, 2005, 02:05 AM
Really, really sad...just retire already Martina. You're like 50.

On the other hand, I wish Seles would come back :worship:

blumaroo
Jun 3rd, 2005, 02:45 AM
hmmm I'd love to see Martina against Misa or Pierce.
I don't get it why people are against Navy playing. Let her have some fun while she still can.
I hope Misa wins or that Pierce wins the tournament. Didn't Mary live in Holland for awhile?

RenaSlam.
Jun 3rd, 2005, 02:59 AM
hmmm I'd love to see Martina against Misa or Pierce.
I don't get it why people are against Navy playing. Let her have some fun while she still can.
I hope Misa wins or that Pierce wins the tournament. Didn't Mary live in Holland for awhile?

While she still can? How long HAS she been on tour??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Scotso
Jun 3rd, 2005, 03:52 AM
Yes Mary lived in Amsterdam for a while. She likes playing there. Hopefully she'll defend her title :D

Good luck Martina, don't get bagelled please.

wateva
Jun 3rd, 2005, 07:02 AM
oh my... when will this woman quit?!??! :fiery:

Jakeev
Jun 3rd, 2005, 08:03 AM
oh my... when will this woman quit?!??! :fiery:

whateva........Bring it on Martina!!!!!!

CooCooCachoo
Jun 3rd, 2005, 08:04 AM
Confirmed today?

It was confirmed many days ago ;) They even have a radio commercial that has been airing for days mentioning her.

Chunchun
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:11 AM
:rolleyes: :tape: :help:

Andy T
Jun 3rd, 2005, 11:36 AM
While she still can? How long HAS she been on tour??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Since 73 - Nixon was President of the US and Haile Selassie was Emperor of Ethiopia. Communist states over all of eastern Europe, including Czechoslovakia, the USSR and Yugoslavia existed, Greece, Spain and Portugal were military dictatorships and Cyprus was still united. The Vietnam war ended and the Yom Kippur War happened between Egypt/Syria and Israel. Eva Herzigova, Monica Lewinsky and Kate Beckinsale were born and Picasso, Tolkein and Bruce Lee died.

GoDominique
Jun 3rd, 2005, 11:39 AM
Why?

Andy T
Jun 3rd, 2005, 11:45 AM
Why?
Solely to piss you off, probably!

GoDominique
Jun 3rd, 2005, 11:48 AM
Solely to piss you off, probably!
I guess so. Oh well, I'll have the last laugh.

Andy T
Jun 3rd, 2005, 11:52 AM
I guess so. Oh well, I'll have the last laugh.

Only when you have won 58 grand Slam titles in singles doubles and mixed! Till then she owns you!

GoDominique
Jun 3rd, 2005, 11:57 AM
Only when you have won 58 grand Slam titles in singles doubles and mixed! Till then she owns you!
Don't think so.

Seriously, she should let go singles. Others have too.

stenen
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:13 PM
So what she playes singles every now and then. As long as she's enjoying it, it's nice that she out there playing singles or doubles. I hope I can stay as motivated about my work at the age of 48 as she is.
Here's an interview that appeared on Eurosport yesterday and among other things she's being asked about what motivates her.
Martina Navratilova (rtsp://realserver.tf1.fr/eurosport/2005/06/03/navratilova_com_20520_1_16_12017_0_240x180.smil)

Billy Moonshine
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:17 PM
I don't want her to play cos she's a complete and utter whining freak. Moaning about seles and dissing Graf for injury fraud and all that crap. She always has to make her presence felt, her ego is so massive that she keeps milking her legend.
She was supposed to have retired back in 94 wasn't she?
12 years ago!
Yeah she can come back, she can do what she wants, but she isn't going to win and is effectively a waste of space and denying an up and comer a great chance.Yeah i'm a hater, I've always hated her though.

stenen
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:37 PM
I don't want her to play cos she's a complete and utter whining freak. Moaning about seles and dissing Graf for injury fraud and all that crap. She always has to make her presence felt, her ego is so massive that she keeps milking her legend.
Am I sensing an inferior complex from you? :lol:


She was supposed to have retired back in 94 wasn't she?
12 years ago!

You never changed you mind? :tape:


Yeah she can come back, she can do what she wants, but she isn't going to win and is effectively a waste of space and denying an up and comer a great chance.
She's there to her best and have fun. She always tries to do the best to her potential. If she win then she's happy if she doesn't then the other player was better.


Yeah i'm a hater, I've always hated her though.
I noticed. ;)

GoDominique
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:42 PM
She's there to her best and have fun. She always tries to do the best to her potential. If she win then she's happy if she doesn't then the other player was better.No that's not true. And that's the biggest problem I have with Martina.

After her loss against Dulko last year she was really pissed and disappointed and came up with lots of "if's" in her interview.
Which proves that she's delusional about her ability. She is not that good anymore (which is normal), but she doesn't see or accept that.
She still believes she can be competitive in singles, and that's just not the case.

Billy Moonshine
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:50 PM
Stenen, how can i have an inferiority complex to Nav? I don't hate her because she is my superior! She is just a tennis player! I hate her because, believe it or not, i don't pretend to like everything. What, you don't hate anyone? good 4 u!
I think she has the complex. That's why she doesn't just stay away and makes snide comments about Graf.
i Change my mind every day but it doesn't affect other people. nav's changes mean some other player, who may have a chance, doesn't get in the drawer. Nav isn't gonna win okay!!!! She shouldn't be there! She's taking advantage of her status!
And don't come on here and try to make me look like a prat just cos I have an opinon different from yours u self righteous twat
:)

Volcana
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:55 PM
Yyaaaaayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

stenen
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:57 PM
No that's not true. And that's the biggest problem I have with Martina.

Did you watch that interview I put the link of in this thread?


After her loss against Dulko last year she was really pissed and disappointed and came up with lots of "if's" in her interview.
Which proves that she's delusional about her ability. She is not that good anymore (which is normal), but she doesn't see or accept that.
She still believes she can be competitive in singles, and that's just not the case.

She's aware of that she's not that good anymore, obviously. Actually she's one of the most clear-minded players I know so I don't sign that delusional part in your post.
If she likes to compete in singles for whatever reason she should. Besides there are a lot of people who still want to see her play so obviously this is a good thing for organisers as well.

GoDominique
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:59 PM
The link doesn't work.

stenen
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:59 PM
Nav isn't gonna win okay!!!! She shouldn't be there! She's taking advantage of her status!
And don't come on here and try to make me look like a prat just cos I have an opinon different from yours u self righteous twat
:)

An organisers are taking advantage of her status too. There are many people who still want to see her play.

u self righteous twat :eek: :eek: :lol:

Billy Moonshine
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:15 PM
Stenen, thank u 4 laughing at me :)
I'm glad u have a GSOH.
I can be a real jerk most of the time!
Go Nav! Win Rosmalen!

Helen Lawson
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:25 PM
If Clint Eastwood had asked me to cake make-up on and play the lead in Million Dollar Baby, I wouldn't have done it. I have my pride after all!

stenen
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:40 PM
Stenen, thank u 4 laughing at me :)
I'm glad u have a GSOH.
I can be a real jerk most of the time!
Go Nav! Win Rosmalen!

I wasn't laughing at you, but with you. :hug: Because even if I didn't agree everything in your post(s) I still could see the humorous parts.
I don't think Navi is going to win Rosmalen but I still think it's nice that she's out there, gives hope for old people like me. :lol:

Sammm
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:41 PM
She loves eastbourne :rolleyes:

SelesFan70
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:41 PM
I thought for sure after her loss to Dulko last year that she'd give up singles. She has nothing left to prove, but I feel that she feels she does? :shrug:

Helen Lawson
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:44 PM
She seemed so angry and bitter after losing to Dulko last year, I thought she wouldn't want to put herself in that position again. That one reporter was like baiting and then she starts demanding where he's from. That was one weird interview.

GoDominique
Jun 3rd, 2005, 01:58 PM
She seemed so angry and bitter after losing to Dulko last year, I thought she wouldn't want to put herself in that position again. That one reporter was like baiting and then she starts demanding where he's from. That was one weird interview.
http://championships.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2004-06-24/200406241088111808661.html

Q. I think the reason my colleague brought up the fatigue question was the girl who beat you said she felt that after the first set you became both a little bit nervous and tiring and fatigued. I'm sure that's why he brought it up.

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: She thought I was tired and fatigued?

Q. Tiring. Not tired. Tiring and fatigued. Of course she doesn't speak English as a first language. Can I have a comment on that. Also, Goran once again brought up the question of women's tennis a few moments ago in which he said that the week before the tournament starts, you pick five girls, they know they're going to come to the same quarterfinals, win 6‑Love.

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: Didn't happen, did it? Venus Williams lost in the second round. She's won this thing twice. So...

Q. Yeah. But fatigue played no part in today?

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: No, absolutely not. What played the part is I couldn't see the ball in the second set. There were two suns that I played against. There was the real sun and then there was the reflection off the building, off the Centre Court. I had never, ever played in conditions where the sun was that low and that bright ‑ here or anywhere else.

Q. Didn't that apply to Dulko, too?

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: She doesn't have to volley, does she? That's not an excuse. That is a ‑‑

Q. She didn't have to.

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: Who are you?

Q. My name is Joe Stall (phonetic).

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: Where are you from?

Q. New Orleans, Louisiana.

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: Oh, well, New Orleans, Louisiana.

Q. I'm glad you're interviewing me.

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: Well, I'd like to know who I'm talking to. Most of these people I know.

Q. You're entitled to.

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA: You I've never seen before. Thank you very much.

No, she doesn't have to volley. She doesn't volley. She hits very well from the baseline. But when you are not seeing the ball, that will always handicap the person at the net more than the person on the baseline. If you notice, when I was on the far end, I was staying on the baseline a whole lot more than I was on the other side because I couldn't see the ball when I came in. Okay? So that is a handicap.

However, she beat me fair and square. I'm not saying that's why I lost the match.

But the second set, I didn't see a whole lot out there. Maybe that's why I looked nervous because I couldn't see the damn ball.

But the third set she won fair and square. I have no excuses. I have no explanations, nothing whatsoever. She played better tennis and that was the end of it. She didn't have to volley and she beat me from the baseline. So there you go.

Andy T
Jun 3rd, 2005, 02:37 PM
Don't think so.

Seriously, she should let go singles. Others have too.

Wildcards are not solely reserved for juniors and never have been. Sometimes they're used to increase the number of local players in the draw, sometimes to reward players who are climbing the rankings fast but not fast enough to make the cut-off point, sometimes for juniors and other times for big names who no longer play regularly. Navratilova, like Sanchez or Testud or Hingis (and one day, who knows, maybe Steffi) falls into that category. You can criticise the system all you want but Navratilova is no more a beneficiary of this than anyone else from any category mentioned. Singling her out is victimisation.

Shenay La Soul
Jun 3rd, 2005, 04:41 PM
What’s great for me is that, in her late 40’s, Navratilova can still beat some of these players. I’m sure the Navratilova fans in the Netherlands are thrilled. I would be.

aerosolmajik
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:28 PM
GO NAVRATILOVA!

stop hating people! Martina can beat 100% of the people who play tennis on here so get over it already!
let her fans enjoy this while it lasts!

Philbo
Jun 3rd, 2005, 05:56 PM
HO Dominique - It must realy be irking you to see Martina currently up a set in a grand slam final atpproaching the age of 50! I hope she wins just to irk you, you pathetic hater...

Martina is still competitive, thats what you cannot stand.. She is currently within a set of becoming the french mixed doiubles champ.. reason enough for her to still be out there!!!!

suffer you fool!

CoryAnnAvants#1
Jun 3rd, 2005, 08:05 PM
Which proves that she's delusional about her ability. She is not that good anymore (which is normal), but she doesn't see or accept that.
She still believes she can be competitive in singles, and that's just not the case.

I disagree with that. She got rocked on clay three times last year, and as a result didn't ask for wild cards into any clay court tournaments this year. In the two tournaments she played on grass last year, she won a round in qualifying at Eastbourne and then reached the finals of the back draw before losing to Silvia Farina-Elia in three sets. Silvia was a top 15 player then. She then went on to win a round at Wimbledon.

She knows where she can succeed, and grass is a surface she can compete on in singles. Furthermore, who is she taking a wildcard from exactly? Michele Gerards and Elisa Tamaela? Two players in their early 20s who will remain on the challenger circuit their entire careers and never break into the top 100? Seda Noorlander, a 31 year old currently ranked #250 and on an 8 match losing streak? The highest ranked junior player they have is Lisanne Balk at #546, and it's absolutely pointless to give somebody a main draw wildcard when they can't even win a 10K.