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treufreund
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:23 PM
Lena said it in her interview. She was not complaining or going on about Pierce but she did say, when asked, that it is a little bit annoying. :(

Wish Lena could have played better.

Still, great tournament, Lena. Love ya! :hearts: :hearts:

daffodil
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:24 PM
All the Russians have problems and excuses about their losses.

faboozadoo15
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:25 PM
All the Russians have problems and excuses about their losses.
:tape: :haha:

hablo
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:33 PM
Lena said it in her interview. She was not complaining or going on about Pierce but she did say, when asked, that it is a little bit annoying. :(

Wish Lena could have played better.

Still, great tournament, Lena. Love ya! :hearts: :hearts:

what? no specific quotes ?? then, I don't believe you :p :lol:

GOOOOOOOOOOOO Mary !!!!!!! :bounce:

treufreund
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:34 PM
actually Elena made no excuses. she just said Mary was on her game and all she said was that yes it was annoying. she only responded to the question honestly. Pam was 100% spot on because Pam has played pro tennis and she felt for Likhovtseva. I like Mary a lot but I have to say that this was a huge achievement for Lena and people need to realize that it's hard enough to play a player like Mary on her game in France without this going on. I know it's how Mary has always played but it does not change that we should understand how it is STILL UNFAIR to LENA and ALL I CAN SAY IS PROPS TO PAM for seeing how it would feel to be in Lena's shoes. :angel:

you rock, Lena. still love ya. :hearts:

cheo23
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:35 PM
I Love Elena's Interview...Her "I Don't KNoW" Responses ARE HilarIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:haha:

Wojtek
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:36 PM
Lena said it in her interview. She was not complaining or going on about Pierce but she did say, when asked, that it is a little bit annoying. :(

Wish Lena could have played better.

Still, great tournament, Lena. Love ya! :hearts: :hearts:

Link please because you're posting third thread about Pierce.

treufreund
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:38 PM
No link needed. just read it in her interview at rolandgarros.org. how hard is that?

griffin
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:38 PM
we should understand how it is STILL UNFAIR to LENA

And if LENA had actually said something - that I could respect. She's a grown woman, she doesn't need Pam stirring shit for her, and I really doubt she'd thank Pam for it.

hablo
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:41 PM
And if LENA had actually said something - that I could respect. She's a grown woman, she doesn't need Pam stirring shit for her, and I really doubt she'd thank Pam for it.

:yeah: :lol:

congratulations Mary!!!!!! :hug::banana:

treufreund
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:41 PM
And if LENA had actually said something - that I could respect. She's a grown woman, she doesn't need Pam stirring shit for her, and I really doubt she'd thank Pam for it.


well, yes, but you have to realize that Lena was very depressed anyways about her game and probably beating herself up. I doubt that she wanted to say something and get the crowd against her. I think you can understand why players may fear challenging Mary in front of a partisan Parisian crowd. :confused:

creep
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:43 PM
She was playing the crowd at times, milking them for their worth, but they’ve given her grief at times so why not. But I think she’s kind of bad with her nerves and not doing it on purpose.Mary just send out that aloofness that has created her nickname “Princess Mary the drama queen” in the locker room.

She’s been a personal favourite of mine for many years now. But sometimes even I shout out “For fucks sake Mary just get on with it!”

griffin
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:45 PM
well, yes, but you have to realize that Lena was very depressed anyways about her game and probably beating herself up. I doubt that she wanted to say something and get the crowd against her. I think you can understand why players may fear challenging Mary in front of a partisan Parisian crowd. :confused:

Right, having Pam do it for them is going to make the crowd happier?

It's not like Mary started playing like this in the middle of a match and took anyone by surprise. Any player who had a serious problem (or anticipated one) could have gone to the tournament officials (quietly and not on camera) and spoken to them about it. Or spoken to them afterwards.

The fact that none of them has speaks volumes for how much of a "problem" this is.

Martian Willow
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:46 PM
Somebody should try slowing Mary down and making her wait.

Helen Lawson
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:47 PM
I haven't seen Mary play in a while. How bad is it next to Conchita? Conchita does the ball routine, and then scratches her ass, adjusts her ponytail, flicks her headband, and then taps with both feet.

hablo
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:48 PM
"Q. Etiez-vous nerveuse ? Comment expliquez-vous cela ?

R. Non, pas nerveuse, mais elle prenait beaucoup de temps entre les points au service. C'est dur. J'ai souvent joué contre Mary et je sais qu'elle fait cela. Elle essayait vraiment de diriger le jeu. C'est ce qu'elle a fait. Elle l'a très bien fait. Elle avait un excellent déplacement, meilleur que d'habitude. C'était elle qui dirigeait le jeu, qui le gérait. Je n'ai donc pas pu vraiment rentrer dans le match. Je n'ai pas pu du tout le maîtriser. Je n'ai pas pu avoir la main aux moments clefs.


Q. Vous dites qu'elle prend du temps entre les points. Est-ce son habitude ? Cela vous ennuie-t-il ? Est-ce une tactique ?

R. Oui, c'est une tactique gênante.

Q. Les autres joueuses pensent-elles la même chose ?

R. Je ne sais pas, je n'ai pas parlé avec elles. "

So basically Elena says she used to Mary's way of playing (taking her time in between points) and this tactic she finds "gênante" but she points out that I think she realizes that this was not the turning point of the match(my interpretation :angel: ). It was Mary's agressive tactic: controlling most of the shots out there and moving better than usual. Because of this Elena states she was never able to really get into the match/or play her game? :ras:

treufreund
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:48 PM
Right, having Pam do it for them is going to make the crowd happier?

It's not like Mary started playing like this in the middle of a match and took anyone by surprise. Any player who had a serious problem (or anticipated one) could have gone to the tournament officials (quietly and not on camera) and spoken to them about it. Or spoken to them afterwards.

The fact that none of them has speaks volumes for how much of a "problem" this is.

what do you mean by "having Pam do it?" I think Pam just took matters into her own hands. She saw something wrong and took a stand. Like it or not, it's a problem but most players don't speak up because they don't want more problems. I can understand that.

maybe you don't like what Pam did and that's fine. I can see both p.o.v.'s. :)

treufreund
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:50 PM
right, i hope nobody in any way think I was implying that Lena was blaming the loss on this tactic/habit. All I said is that it did annoy her.

améliemomo
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:53 PM
the russians looked like "juniors" in front of justine and mary today.

The girls were too good for them.That's it.

hablo
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:54 PM
the russians looked like "juniors" in front of justine and mary today.

The girls were too good for them.That's it.

salut :wavey:

J'espère que Momo va mieux jouer à Wimbledon :bounce: ;)

mandy7
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:55 PM
mary's tactics are annoying :o

RAA
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:56 PM
I haven't seen Mary play in a while. How bad is it next to Conchita? Conchita does the ball routine, and then scratches her ass, adjusts her ponytail, flicks her headband, and then taps with both feet.


:lol::haha: :haha: :haha:

so true!

améliemomo
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:57 PM
salut :wavey:

J'espère que Momo va mieux jouer à Wimbledon :bounce: ;)


hablovah m'en parle pas!!!!!!!!je suis au fond de ma grotte en train de ruminer après sa défaite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j'y croyais!!!!!

Helen Lawson
Jun 2nd, 2005, 06:58 PM
:lol::haha: :haha: :haha:

so true!

You know, it's cute, but after all that effort, it isn't exactly a serve you'd see Serena or Lindsay doling out......

hablo
Jun 2nd, 2005, 07:14 PM
hablovah m'en parle pas!!!!!!!!je suis au fond de ma grotte en train de ruminer après sa défaite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j'y croyais!!!!!

désolée, moi aussi j'y croyais (et j'y crois encore pour Wimbledon :devil: ). :o :hug:

j'étais tellement déprimée que je suis restée chez moi au lieu d'aller à une soirée :haha: (heureusement que Marat avait remporté son match ce jour-là, sinon. . .:o )

VivalaSeles
Jun 2nd, 2005, 07:16 PM
I like Mary a lot

Of course, you do.

ali
Jun 2nd, 2005, 07:45 PM
She’s been a personal favourite of mine for many years now. But sometimes even I shout out “For fucks sake Mary just get on with it!”
:D Me too! I think we've all been there when we follow Mary's matches

creep
Jun 2nd, 2005, 07:51 PM
:D Me too! I think we've all been there when we follow Mary's matches

That’s why I’m thinking a lot on this board must be new to the game to make comments about Mary wasting time, like hadn’t they seen Mary play before now?
Mary has her own mannerisms on court, she’ll hardly change now. I don’t think she could fully concentrate without her going through her little routines or habits, it keeps her focused. :)

ali
Jun 2nd, 2005, 08:02 PM
That’s why I’m thinking a lot on this board must be new to the game to make comments about Mary wasting time, like hadn’t they seen Mary play before now?
Mary has her own mannerisms on court, she’ll hardly change now. I don’t think she could fully concentrate without her going through her little routines or habits, it keeps her focused. :)
Completely agree. But I read a post from someone the other day who didn't know that Mary had already won 2 grand slams so.....

creep
Jun 2nd, 2005, 08:14 PM
Completely agree. But I read a post from someone the other day who didn't know that Mary had already won 2 grand slams so.....

Really? Must have been a Williams fan (we'll blame them, they get the blame for most things)

Nothing surprises me on here.;):)

RenaSlam.
Jun 2nd, 2005, 08:14 PM
Oh well. Mary sure shut her up today!

ALLEZ MARY!

Wojtek
Jun 2nd, 2005, 08:21 PM
well, yes, but you have to realize that Lena was very depressed anyways about her game and probably beating herself up. I doubt that she wanted to say something and get the crowd against her. I think you can understand why players may fear challenging Mary in front of a partisan Parisian crowd. :confused:

Hmmm Mary has been acting like all the time and she got warning at RG when she lost to Martinez in the second round ( i think it was 1999)but do you think warning would change something in this matches? :rolleyes: Even if she had served faster she would have won because she was much better player.

jimbo mack
Jun 2nd, 2005, 08:21 PM
mary's tactics are annoying :o

at least we dont have the tears with mary unlike m.krajicek :tape:

mary's graceful on court unlike that brat

selesbooz
Jun 2nd, 2005, 09:37 PM
at least we dont have the tears with mary unlike m.krajicek :tape:

mary's graceful on court unlike that brat


Mary is a bitch and those sorry umpire should of done something about her doing, but of she THINKS that she is french so no one is going to say any thing. The French can be real sad sacks at time. Hopefully Justine will complain to the Chair and kick her old desperate CANANDIAN ass. :fiery:

Dana Marcy
Jun 2nd, 2005, 09:53 PM
Mary is a bitch and those sorry umpire should of done something about her doing, but of she THINKS that she is french so no one is going to say any thing. The French can be real sad sacks at time. Hopefully Justine will complain to the Chair and kick her old desperate CANANDIAN ass. :fiery:

And you call yourself a SELES fan??? SHAME ON YOU! Monica would be embarassed that your using her name to post your sh^t. :mad:

DA FOREHAND
Jun 2nd, 2005, 09:56 PM
All the Russians have problems and excuses about their losses.


Well Elena L, is only 29

selesbooz
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:22 PM
And you call yourself a SELES fan??? SHAME ON YOU! Monica would be embarassed that your using her name to post your sh^t. :mad:


Yes Iam a Seles fan and the reason why i do not like Mary is because iam a seles fan.

FO 2000- Monica was beating Mary like a wannabe french step child. In the middle of the 2nd set Monica had MAry traped in the back court, running her from side to side, monica is at the net putting away a volly and mary hits the ball between her legs, monica lets it go ( it looked like it was going out) lands on the corner line and after that monica was toast. I Do not blame Mon, it the ball went through Mary legs i would not touch it either :lol:

Dana Marcy
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:36 PM
Yes Iam a Seles fan and the reason why i do not like Mary is because iam a seles fan.

FO 2000- Monica was beating Mary like a wannabe french step child. In the middle of the 2nd set Monica had MAry traped in the back court, running her from side to side, monica is at the net putting away a volly and mary hits the ball between her legs, monica lets it go ( it looked like it was going out) lands on the corner line and after that monica was toast. I Do not blame Mon, it the ball went through Mary legs i would not touch it either :lol:

Hmmmmm. That match was a lot closer than you're telling it but ok. :tape:

jimbo mack
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:39 PM
pierce outclassed monica in that match- great to see, good memories

DA FOREHAND
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:39 PM
Yes Iam a Seles fan and the reason why i do not like Mary is because iam a seles fan.

FO 2000- Monica was beating Mary like a wannabe french step child. In the middle of the 2nd set Monica had MAry traped in the back court, running her from side to side, monica is at the net putting away a volly and mary hits the ball between her legs, monica lets it go ( it looked like it was going out) lands on the corner line and after that monica was toast. I Do not blame Mon, it the ball went through Mary legs i would not touch it either :lol:


let me guess ...you're 11

selesbooz
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:40 PM
Hmmmmm. That match was a lot closer than you're telling it but ok. :tape:

Not in the first set and 1/2, monica was in control, after that shot monica went away and Mary was in control

Dana Marcy
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:42 PM
Not in the first set and 1/2, monica was in control, after that shot monica went away and Mary was in control

Seles doesn't make those kinds of petty excuses. Why are you? And that shot from Pierce you were referring to occurred in the FIRST set.

Sam L
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:45 PM
You lost Lena, get over it.

selesbooz
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:53 PM
Seles doesn't make those kinds of petty excuses. Why are you? And that shot from Pierce you were referring to occurred in the FIRST set.


What excuses are you talking about :confused:

DA FOREHAND
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:53 PM
actually Elena made no excuses. she just said Mary was on her game and all she said was that yes it was annoying. she only responded to the question honestly. Pam was 100% spot on because Pam has played pro tennis and she felt for Likhovtseva. I like Mary a lot but I have to say that this was a huge achievement for Lena and people need to realize that it's hard enough to play a player like Mary on her game in France without this going on. I know it's how Mary has always played but it does not change that we should understand how it is STILL UNFAIR to LENA and ALL I CAN SAY IS PROPS TO PAM for seeing how it would feel to be in Lena's shoes. :angel:

you rock, Lena. still love ya. :hearts:


This what? We didn t see anything new from Mary today....She's been playing at this tempo her entire career.

Dana Marcy
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:55 PM
What excuses are you talking about :confused:

The excuse that that shot made the diff in their match. Seles was in it to the very end, 6-4 in the third.

selesbooz
Jun 2nd, 2005, 11:00 PM
The excuse that that shot made the diff in their match. Seles was in it to the very end, 6-4 in the third.

I do not know how you saw that match, but when i watched it Monica was playing very good high quality tennis, i felt that she was going to win that match. after that shot she was like a different person she could never get that upper hand on Mary. I remember the look on Mon's face when the ball fell in the court and she had let it go.

Also I not say anything bad about mary in that match. I said that Monica was playing good and after that point she was not, what excuse is that but Mary played good

TonyP
Jun 3rd, 2005, 12:32 AM
If this is all tennis can muster as an "issue" to debate and fight about, tennis is indeed in sad shape.

So, Mary takes a few extra seconds. Ring up the World Criminal Court and let's prosecute!

Pierce has been playing like that ever since anyone can remember. Just be happy she's playing well and there's at least a chance of a good final. Tell Pam to go back repaste the pictures in her scrapbook or something and leave the pros alone.