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ys
Apr 4th, 2002, 10:51 PM
The Sarasota tournament is our last chance to prevent this "anniversary" from happening. If Nastya or Tanya don't win Sarasota, on Saturday, April 13 we will "celebrate" our 1000 days without a title. I.e. 1000 days since Nastya won Palermo.:o

auntie janie
Apr 5th, 2002, 12:23 AM
ys,
may I paste your post at CNNSI? We were JUST NOW discussing this on the Rising Star fan zone.

I am rooting for Anastasia to win this week. :hearts:

ys
Apr 5th, 2002, 12:57 AM
Sure..:)

FroggyLight
Apr 5th, 2002, 02:00 AM
Davai Nastya YOU CAN WIN THIS!!!

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 5th, 2002, 03:26 AM
1000 days is 993 too much :fiery: :fiery:

ideally one winner per week ;) but realistically one per month should be attainable.

fresh2flash
Apr 5th, 2002, 06:11 AM
I`ll be quite satisfied with 4 titles in a year if these are the Grand Slam tournaments :)

fresh2flash
Apr 5th, 2002, 06:15 AM
But potentially in the final Nastya may play Jelena. Damn, two of my favourites playing each other, and Dokic even stands higher in my list :fiery: But in view of the sad anniversary I will diminish and will root for Nastya :)!!!

Go girl!!!

the cat
Apr 5th, 2002, 04:31 PM
That's the wrong kind of anniversary. But don't worry ys, the "Russian Lynx" will change all of Russian tennis history over the next few years. Udachi Maria!

Cassius
Apr 6th, 2002, 12:29 AM
OK, so its been 1000 days since a Russian girl won a tournament.

I bet none of you can guess how long its been since an English (oh, all right then. BRITISH) girl won a tourny?:sad:

I wonder if an English girl has won a tournament since I've been born. I was born in 1984 btw.
Anyway, I don't remember any Englishwoman winning.

auntie janie
Apr 6th, 2002, 10:16 PM
How about that Tiny Tatiana! SHE is the one in the final in Sarasota. And yet she and Elena L. don't even have cheering threads started on Russian Roulette -- why is that? Not pretty enough? Too old?

HEY -- I'm going to start one for her. :angel:

ys
Apr 7th, 2002, 12:56 AM
You know, Janie, it is not about "not pretty enough or too old".. I, personally, thought that both have very little ambitions and are just trying to make some money for living by playing tennis, which is OK, but that' quite difficult to cheer on this. Apparently I was wrong about Panova..

auntie janie
Apr 7th, 2002, 01:25 AM
Thanks for the explanation, ys. It makes me wonder if Tatiana has recently changed her attitude? Something is definitely different this year.
But I accidentally answered your post on the NEW Panova cheering thread! ;)

auntie janie
Apr 8th, 2002, 06:23 PM
Oh well ... Tiny Tatiana did her best ... now the 1,000 days will pass with no title. :(

Wouldn't it be funny if Dinara Safina would be the one to break the Curse? :) And once the Curse is finally broken, will the other Russian players stream through the opened door, or stay behind in their titleless ruts? :confused:

ys
Apr 13th, 2002, 08:03 PM
So, here is the day..:(
And the background of today's results are quite appropriate for the occasion.

"Congratulations", or should I say, condolences, everyone..:(

Any bets on whether we are going to reach 2000?

the cat
Apr 13th, 2002, 08:31 PM
A Russian girl will wina WTA title this year. It was ridiculous for Dementieva and Kournikova to skip Sarasota, and play the much tougher Amelia Island. The Russian girls need to play alot of smaller events. Something will break soon, ys. I hope!

Don't fret too much. Sharapova, Safina and other Russian junior girls are on there way.

thefreedesigner
Apr 13th, 2002, 08:41 PM
It was ridiculous for Dementieva and Kournikova to skip Sarasota

For Kournikova yes, but for Dementieva? No way, if she was in her right mind she would be a semifinalist now.... but I guess hindsight is a wonderful thing.

As for the title drought, you Russian guys (and gals :)) must be tearing your hair out... but Nastya, Dementieva and Anna will win tournaments this year. Lina and Nadya will be back too. :)

On that cat, I agree with you. It will happen. 100% certain.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 13th, 2002, 08:56 PM
i can't wait for another of one the girls to hit the tour.
Vera Douchevina is still blank when it comes to tourns of any level.

She's gonna be one to watch as well.

best attacking player we have.

fresh2flash
Apr 14th, 2002, 09:33 AM
Elena will win in Bol. I`ll be there to cheer her up :)

ys
May 3rd, 2002, 06:23 PM
1020 days and counting.. We will have a three-year anniversary in mid-July and 11 hundreds 5 days after that. It will happen, guys.. Unless Anna can do something in Warsaw next week.

fresh2flash
May 3rd, 2002, 06:31 PM
Yes, unfortunately. How can one be serious regarding Elena`s chances of winning a tournament if she loses to a player of Garbin level :(.

TheBoiledEgg
May 12th, 2002, 12:33 PM
the jinx is no more :D

Elena won the final 6-3 6-1 :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


Zdorovo Lenochka !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

finally it has happned :)

well done and congrats Elena :kiss: :kiss:

fresh2flash
May 12th, 2002, 01:10 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
The Russian ban has been lifted!!! Hooray!!!!

ys
May 13th, 2002, 02:19 AM
:bounce: :bounce:
It took 1035 days!:o

Time to start new count, hopefully much shorter one..:)

auntie janie
May 13th, 2002, 03:10 AM
I have just re-read all these posts, and I don't see Elena Bovina's name mentioned AT ALL as one of the players who could possibly break this terrible Curse. Even the youngsters are mentioned, but not Elena B. How could this player, her ranking fallen to #94, mired in a year-long slump, possibly be The One who would answer our pleas? So, it was no wonder that none of us thought of her. :rolleyes:

So I find it extremely satisfying that the humble Elena B. turned out to be The One. She broke out of her own slump, won her first WTA Singles title in very convincing fashion, and ended the Russian Curse, all in one go. :angel:

Elena Bovina, I am so proud of you!!! During your year of losses piling upon losses, watching your ranking slowly but relentlessly dropping, you never gave up, never lost hope; you just kept working, kept hanging in there -- and today you got your reward, the first of many WTA titles. :angel:

Be wise, Elena, and keep that low profile -- so low a profile she barely registers even here in Russian Roulette!! -- and just keep on quietly working your way up. Do it your way. Because, obviously, your way works. I am really, really happy to be your fan. :)

TheBoiledEgg
May 13th, 2002, 04:13 AM
Elena played a smarter schedule according to her rank, non of the big clay events.

Estoril, Budapest, Bol and Warsaw.

Very wise move :)

the cat
May 13th, 2002, 03:41 PM
Well said Janie! But it sounds like you're the kind of person who said, "I told you so"! Are you?

Eggy, I know Vera D. is a fine prospect. But you think she's the best attacking player from Russia? Did you see the film footage of Maria Sharapova serving and volleying? She looked very natural and smooth doing it. You can tell Maria has been very well coached. And Eggy, didn't Maria whip Vera in the junior Australian hardcourts earlier this year? Anyway, the film footage of Maria serving and volleying in her first round doubles match at Indian Wells. And it's located at www.manmademultimedia.com/magazine/news/sport/tennis

Just scroll down a little past half way for the footage.

TheBoiledEgg
May 13th, 2002, 03:45 PM
Cat..... I've seen both play although i missed their head-to head clash.

Vera comes in alot more as well. I know both girls will hit the heights around 2004

the cat
May 13th, 2002, 03:49 PM
Man Eggy! You are everywhere! :eek: Vera is bigger than Maria, right? I wish Vera was being trained at Bollettieri's. Don't you? As it stands now, Vera is very inexperienced for a 15 year old. I hope she can catch up.

auntie janie
May 13th, 2002, 06:44 PM
bad cat! ;)

How in the world could I say "I told you so" when I as well as everyone else never thought Elena would be the one to break the Russian Curse??? That would be pretty lame! :kiss:

the cat
May 13th, 2002, 09:06 PM
Thrashing me Janie? :( That's unecessary roughness, and a 15 yard penalty! ;)

auntie janie
May 13th, 2002, 11:20 PM
Thanks, top cat! That is so much better than being consigned to the Penalty box again! ;)

the cat
May 14th, 2002, 04:16 PM
I'm glad you noticed the change in penalties! You are always so alert, Janie!

ys
Jul 13th, 2002, 07:40 PM
OK, we are closing on a minor anniversary again, 100 days will be on August 21. But it might not happen. I really hope that a reset button will be pushed by Vera tomorrow.:0

fresh2flash
Jul 13th, 2002, 07:43 PM
Should we start a campaign "no 100 days without a title" :). I will sign it!

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 13th, 2002, 07:43 PM
I hope so too :)
got to have a 2nd winner of 2002 :)

in 3-4 yrs time hopefully our girls can dominate the WTA just like our junior girls are ;) that would be just brilliant.

auntie janie
Jul 13th, 2002, 07:55 PM
Eggy was right about Vera D. as well ....

This thread reminds me, I must go resuscitate Elena Bovina's thread.

ys
Jul 13th, 2002, 08:06 PM
Does it only seem to me, or are we really going to have 11(!!!) direct acceptances to the Open? Plus Katya, Sveta, Dinara and Nastya , maybe someone else, will be in qualifying, and Masha might be awarded WC..

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 13th, 2002, 08:42 PM
Lina and Nadya both would have to use an injury ranking to get in.
Nadya has a SLAM exemption as she has missed 3 slams during her injury so she can use that slam card at any time until her injury period ends. Lina doesn't have that luxury so Lina wouldn't be able to get into a GS by her injury ranking :sad: :(

still we will have barring any disasters (please no more)

Elena Dementieva
Anastasia Myskina
Tatiana Panova
Elena Likhovtseva
Anna Kournikova
Vera Zvonareva
Elena Bovina
Alina Jidkova
Evgenia Koulikovskaya

qualies
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Lina Krasnoroutskaya
Maria Goloviznina
Dinara Safina
Ekaterina Syssoeva
Galina Fokina

POSS WC for Maria Sharapova

Cassius
Jul 14th, 2002, 06:12 AM
Main draw
Elena Dementieva
Anastasia Myskina
Tatiana Panova
Elena Likhovtseva
Anna Kournikova
Vera Zvonareva
Elena Bovina
Alina Jidkova
Evgenia Koulikovskaya

qualies
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Lina Krasnoroutskaya
Maria Goloviznina
Dinara Safina
Ekaterina Syssoeva
Galina Fokina

POSS WC for Maria Sharapova
That's a pretty damn good list:D:D:D.

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 14th, 2002, 08:58 AM
Evgenia K will drop to 109 from 102 so could be in the qualifying list.

US Open has 16 women qualifiers so less players entered for maindraw, but she will be pretty close to the cut-off as a few injuries/retirements in the top 100.

Lina will be unseeded in qualies as well :(, its gonna be a long road back. She might not even get into the US qualifying draw as she's ranked 252. :sad:

Entry list is out tomorrow so i can hope its fine.

auntie janie
Jul 14th, 2002, 12:15 PM
Will Lina or Nadya even be back in time for the US Open? In my head, they are turning into ghosts!! I can't even remember what Nadya looks like! :eek:

Cassius
Jul 16th, 2002, 07:33 AM
I'll never forget what Lina looks like:hearts::hearts::hearts:

the cat
Jul 17th, 2002, 08:23 PM
TBE says Lina and Nadia are due back shortly. And that's good news. I just hope they are not permanently damaged from these terrible injuries.

Udachi Lina and Nadia! :bounce:

ys
Jul 25th, 2002, 09:01 PM
Since French Open, every non-Slam week we have a Russian finalist. Pretty amazing, isn't it? But still no titles..

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 25th, 2002, 09:05 PM
another guaranteed finalist
but we want a title in Sopot

maybe History repeat itself

Poland final a Russian maybe vs Nagyova again like in Warsaw
lets hope so

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 27th, 2002, 01:24 PM
History did repeat itself

Dinara won the Sopot title :)
beating Nagyova in the final

now if only there was a tourn every week in Poland ;)

fresh2flash
Jul 27th, 2002, 02:41 PM
Russian ITAR-TASS news agency reported that Dinara is the 1st Russian female-player to win the title this year :)

But anyway well done Dinara!!!

the cat
Jul 27th, 2002, 07:37 PM
Freshy, how could they forget about Bovina? :confused:

Cassius
Jul 28th, 2002, 11:41 PM
All the press agencies seem to forget about people. Don't know why, they just do:confused:.
Congrats Dinara:D:D:D.

ys
Aug 11th, 2002, 11:21 PM
Unbelievable, we have quite a season..:bounce:

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 11th, 2002, 11:23 PM
3 titles so far in 2002 :)

all thats needed is one for Anna and Alyona as well :)

and it will get better in the near future, our girls will come good and they will be getting better and stronger.

Cassius
Aug 12th, 2002, 12:29 AM
The season has already turned out better than I (and probably most other people) expected. If Anna and Elena won a title each, then this year would be almost perfect. Almost. Lina and Nadia:sad:.

fresh2flash
Aug 13th, 2002, 08:39 PM
The time has come I guess to expect a title in the Tier II tournament :) Tier III and Tier IV are already small for our expectations!

auntie janie
Aug 15th, 2002, 02:54 AM
But waiting for Elena and Anna to win may be like waiting for Godot ... better to wait for the others to repeat!

In any case, the imortant thing is, the Curse is definitely, absolutely broken. Once and for all!

Cassius
Aug 15th, 2002, 03:13 AM
But waiting for Elena and Anna to win may be like waiting for Godot
LOL!!!!!
Sorry, I like Elena and Anna, so I shouldn't laugh, but that was very funny:D

auntie janie
Aug 15th, 2002, 12:00 PM
Well I like Elena too, but I gave up on expecting anything from her several months ago.

I admit she has surprised me in doubles; did you know she is up to #14 now? I would not have expected THAT a year ago; I don't think she was in the top 100! She and Janette Husarova make a very good team.

the cat
Aug 16th, 2002, 12:41 AM
Isn't that great Janie? Udachi Elena in meaningless doubles!

And did Godot play in the 1960's or 1970's? ;)

Cassius
Aug 16th, 2002, 04:45 AM
Do you pronouce the 't' in Godot, or is it silent?

ys
Jan 30th, 2003, 05:27 PM
The count is growing again.. Something has to be done about it..

vaiva
Jan 31st, 2003, 12:48 PM
Interesting that nobody considered Sveta K as a potential title contender in 2002 yet she won even 2 tournaments :).

Who do you think can be the first Russian to win a title in 2003? Somebody from the "old army" who were supposed to have more or at least one title by now or will there be another pleasant surprise?

Hurley
Jan 31st, 2003, 09:16 PM
Nastya will be top seed in one of the Middle East events. I would have thought that would be too much pressure, but she handled the pressure in Melbourne very well. :)

Hopefully she will pick up that title. :D

ys
Feb 14th, 2003, 10:17 PM
We are nearly bound to reset that count back to zero in less than two days.. It's all up to Nastya now.. I would love to see Nastya-Lina final. But I am not sure which result I would prefer.. Nastya's win would really put a good foundation for her becoming not just sort-lived Top 10-er, but Top 10 resident for this year. Lina's first title would also be just grand.. From all those girls of Russian second wave - Elena D., Nastya, Nadya and Lina - Lina was considered as probably the most talented, but it was Nastya and Elena D. who had success so far. Lina and Nadya can do that too..