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CJ07
May 1st, 2005, 05:00 AM
That Venus & Serena retire in the next two years.

Richard is right. These two ladies are far too talented and intelligent to be spending the best of their years on the tennis court.

They've already proved that they're the best, and they've done everything there is to be done between each other...why keep dragging it on?

Of course it would be great if they could get back to #1 and #2 one more time, but it doesn't matter.

Venus and Serena just have too much class, grace, and education to be dealing with the crap they have to put up with in the Tennis World.

So I say to hell with them. Because the Tennis world needs them a hell of a lot more than they need the Tennis World.

Whatever they end up doing, I just have to say that they really are an inspiration, and that whatever endeavors they decide to pursue, I wish them the best of luck.

Venus and Serena are the best. :worship: :yeah:

vettipooh
May 1st, 2005, 05:06 AM
That Venus & Serena retire in the next two years.

Richard is right. These two ladies are far too talented and intelligent to be spending the best of their years on the tennis court.

They've already proved that they're the best, and they've done everything there is to be done between each other...why keep dragging it on?

Of course it would be great if they could get back to #1 and #2 one more time, but it doesn't matter.

Venus and Serena just have too much class, grace, and education to be dealing with the crap they have to put up with in the Tennis World.

So I say to hell with them. Because the Tennis world needs them a hell of a lot more than they need the Tennis World.

Whatever they end up doing, I just have to say that they really are an inspiration, and that whatever endeavors they decide to pursue, I wish them the best of luck.

Venus and Serena are the best. :worship: :yeah::worship: :worship: :worship: Something I say all the time.They have thrived on court, and they thrive even better off court. I have a feeling you might get your wish sooner than you think!!;)

selking
May 1st, 2005, 05:10 AM
They are not going to ammount to anything off the court. The need tennis too because there isn't much else for them to do beside chase other dreams. they have reached one of them and made a hell of alot of money off of it i don't know why they would give it up.

azza
May 1st, 2005, 05:12 AM
:D Yes please retire. :D

Stamp Paid
May 1st, 2005, 05:14 AM
They are not going to ammount to anything...

Speak for yourself. :o

Once Serena passes Seles, then I would be happy if she retired.

selking
May 1st, 2005, 05:19 AM
Speak for yourself. :o

Once Serena passes Seles, then I would be happy if she retired.

so you're content with her having nine grandslams? Something that wouldn't make her the best ever in most peoples eyes. I mean Monica may have nice but she also has the stabbing as a damn good excuse if she wanted to. And what do you think they are gonna do when they are done? We have already seen that serena isn't the best actress

Stamp Paid
May 1st, 2005, 05:24 AM
so you're content with her having nine grandslams? Something that wouldn't make her the best ever in most peoples eyes. I mean Monica may have nice but she also has the stabbing as a damn good excuse if she wanted to. And what do you think they are gonna do when they are done? We have already seen that serena isn't the best actress

Monica has 9, so I would be content with Serena having 10. :hearts:

Serena will never be regarded by the best ever by the tennis establishment, so even hoping that would happen would be an exercise in stupidity, on my part.

But by the time Serena retires she will have netter over $100 million, so she will have the resources to do whatever she wants for the rest of her life. :lol: :lol: As long as shes happy, I'm still gonna have her back, always.

And Venus has her interior design firm, thats doing exceptionally well BTW, so her future success is without doubt.

esquímaux
May 1st, 2005, 05:40 AM
Hmmm.....I see a bunch of low class comments being made up in this thread :o:tape:

JenFan75
May 1st, 2005, 05:40 AM
It's gonna be fun watching this thread spin out of control. I mean, it's focused around the sisters, so that's gonna start little arguments, and now the stabbing thing has been mentioned!

As for The sisters retiring, I hope they do it very soon and I wish them luck in whatever they attempt to do...

vettipooh
May 1st, 2005, 05:59 AM
They are not going to ammount to anything off the court. The need tennis too because there isn't much else for them to do beside chase other dreams. they have reached one of them and made a hell of alot of money off of it i don't know why they would give it up.If the sport of tennis came to an abrupt end tomorrow. Venus and Serena are the only ones we wouldn't have to worry about!!! They are well prepared for life after tennis..socially, emotionally, physically and financially.For your info, they have already amounted to EVERYTHING off the court.:p Now put that in your resentful pipe and smoke it!!!!:rolleyes:

~{X}~
May 1st, 2005, 06:08 AM
Haha on Friday when I went to the book signing and saw Venus and Serena, it really made me think of how badly I want to become rich and famous haha. No but they really are doing great for themselves now and I am sure in the future. Now I gotta go read their book and see how I can get my way up in the rich and successful area lol. :D

TF Chipmunk
May 1st, 2005, 06:12 AM
Financially, they would be very secure if they retired from tennis even TOMORROW. However, I don't think the fame will be there anymore if they quit...Maybe Serena can excel in acting, but having an interior design firm isn't going to give Venus Williams a lot of spotlight. They'd sort of just disappear, and it wouldn't be very good for us fans :( We'd miss them too much.

lucashg
May 1st, 2005, 06:28 AM
Financially, they would be very secure if they retired from tennis even TOMORROW. However, I don't think the fame will be there anymore if they quit...Maybe Serena can excel in acting, but having an interior design firm isn't going to give Venus Williams a lot of spotlight. They'd sort of just disappear, and it wouldn't be very good for us fans :( We'd miss them too much.

I agree on that. Serena is not given much credit for what she does professionally off-court IMO and she's not gonna get fame outta her other careers anytime soon. I would be glad if she actually succeeds off-court but she has to dedicate her life completely to those activities giving up on tennis which really is the main marketing she has to promote her other careers. So I wouldn't say she doesn't need the Tennis World. Venus does it too, especially since her career off-court is much less "glamorous" (though so much more exciting than Serena's - regarding fashion).

I also don't want them to retire within the next five years (or maybe more!). I believe it will happen in the mean time, but I don't want to so leave it at that for now and it's up to them to decide. I think they can achieve so much more, even Venus!

Zhao
May 1st, 2005, 06:35 AM
pls do not bash me for this comment

i feel that Serena has already surpassed Seles with her Serena slam
yeah she may be behind by 3 slams but hey what abt those doubles GS??
Seles has established herself as one of th greatest fighters of all time...

Julia1968
May 1st, 2005, 07:19 AM
That Venus & Serena retire in the next two years.

Richard is right. These two ladies are far too talented and intelligent to be spending the best of their years on the tennis court.

Who were they before they played tennis???


Venus and Serena just have too much class, grace, and education to be dealing with the crap they have to put up with in the Tennis World.

Too much education??? Some of us who have graduate degree's, not diploma's, might argue that point. But, as any world-class athlete, there's a certain amount of "crap" one must deal with in any professional sport, not just tennis. What I find odd is celebrities/sports figures use the media, etc. to gain a level of success, then once they achieve that, act as though they've made their lives hell. Cliche' be darned, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Its the price you pay for fame.



So I say to hell with them. Because the Tennis world needs them a hell of a lot more than they need the Tennis World.

If it weren't for the sport of tennis, Venus and Serena would not likely be the people you know as "Venus and Serena".

In the history of tennis, no one or two persons have ever been larger than the game. The sport of tennis always "wins".

There is a new generation of younger, stronger, tennis players who are capitvating a world-wide audience, while both sisters are playing. In essence, they are being overshadowed at the current time (just my opinion).

With their games in decline and frail bodies, I don't think anyone would be overly shocked that they would retire. Venus, number one for 12 weeks, 4 singles slams and Serena 52-weeks and 7 slams (I think???), haven't historically approached the true greats of tennis.

The most disturbing part of this is that two women, who once had the potential of dominating the game for years, threw it all away for fame, "outside interests", tournament withdrawls, and poor coaching. Unrealized and untapped potential is what is tragic in this case.

Historically, I have tons more respect for players like Navratilova who gave up her endorsement potential by "coming out". She stayed true to tennis, worked hard and mid-career, turned tennis history on its heels, all well knowing she wasn't the most popular for exposing her personal life. That's called dedication to herself and the sport of tennis, in spite of the fact she wouldn't receive the monetary windfall others did.


Venus and Serena are the best. :worship: :yeah:

They WERE once the best in the sport of tennis. Now, all they give their fans is mediocre results with an occasional burst of brilliance. Tragic.

However, I feel blessed that in my lifetime I witnessed some of the greatest women's tennis players to have ever played the sport, whose results left an indelible mark in sports history: Margaret Court, Billie Jean King, Chris Evert, Martina Navratilova, Stefanie Graf, and Pam Shriver

Cris Senior
May 1st, 2005, 07:29 AM
SMM says:"the sisters have too much class and education" Now,could S&M&M lists all the schools,classes and degree programs they attended?
S&M also says that "the sisters are too talented and intelligent".But her own father Richsrd is on press record saying:"I hope they both retire soon because Venus is very intelligent but Serena is in risk of becoming the dumbest athlete in the history of sports"
Cris Senior

Staticbeef
May 1st, 2005, 07:53 AM
If the sport of tennis came to an abrupt end tomorrow. Venus and Serena are the only ones we wouldn't have to worry about!!! They are well prepared for life after tennis..socially, emotionally, physically and financially.For your info, they have already amounted to EVERYTHING off the court.:p Now put that in your resentful pipe and smoke it!!!!:rolleyes: :worship: :worship: :worship: Bingo, well said. Hey I got news for ya, these girls could run for office in a lot of places and would get elected by a landslide, that how popular they are, especialy with younger voters :p

Brooks.
May 1st, 2005, 08:07 AM
I hope they play for 4 or 5 more years........it would be sad if they didnt play :sad: ........but im sure even when they retire they will be very successful in other things......but hopefully they'll provide us with a couple more years of exciting tennis ;)

justine&coria
May 1st, 2005, 08:48 AM
OMG, because they are playing badly for the moment, some of their fans want them to retire not to be embarassed by V&S anymore !!! :confused:
And then they'll be able to say they were the bests.
What kind of fans you are !

I truly believe that in some time, they'll reach their best level once again. The fact that Justine and Kim come back strongly, and that Sharapova and Lindsay are beating them consistently will help them raise their level.
If you don't believe in themselves, then become a fan of Clijsters for example. You'll then be sure that she won't embarass you.

Sir Stefwhit
May 1st, 2005, 09:03 AM
I honestly believe that as much as I enjoy watching Serena, she enjoys playing. I think that the commentators and the media would have you believe that tennis isn't a top priority to either of the girls because they don't play as much as some of the other girls and because they both have a lot of outside interest. I chose instead to believe Serena when she says that she loves to hear the roar of the crowd, that she loves being out there competing, and that she really did miss tennis when she was out with an injury. People like to question their devotion to the sport and ask if they there hearts are really into it and I believe that as long as they play they are doing it because they want to. Serena has said that she has no immediate plans for retiring and that she has goals in her professional career that she wants to accomplish and again, I believe her. Serena needs tennis just as much as it needs her- she gets a rush out of winning, all champions do!

Jeff
May 1st, 2005, 09:42 AM
I disagree about the sisters retiring. First of all, it's annoying as hell to me whenever I hear anything pertaining to tennis needing the sisters and not the other way around. Tennis made the sisters! Sure tennis needs them and has grown because of them, but they owe it to the sport, to the fans, and to themselves to play. They are only 23 and 24. They still have so much to accomplish, and they have worked so hard to do so. If they quit right now they would definetly regret it, and the sisters know this. I think you have it mixed around. Quitting now would mean that tennis to them is just a stepping stone, without much importance in their lives and easy to give up. I think tennis is very important to them and I think they still consider it a major part of them. Sure they will be successful now without tennis, but they know they are still in the game, still have a lot there for them to accomplish, and are way to competitive to just throw it out for grabs to everyone else.

thelittlestelf
May 1st, 2005, 02:06 PM
Eek, can't say I back you up on that. I want them to keep playing forever (or at least 5 more years ;) )! :hearts:

tenn_ace
May 1st, 2005, 02:14 PM
S&M also says that "the sisters are too talented and intelligent".But her own father Richsrd is on press record saying:"I hope they both retire soon because Venus is very intelligent but Serena is in risk of becoming the dumbest athlete in the history of sports"
Cris Senior

oh my... that's totally hillarious :haha:


and about Tennis world needing them: there were far more accomplished players retired in the past, but the tennis world is just fine without them.:wavey:

Geisha
May 1st, 2005, 02:16 PM
You're in high school, and you're picking your courses for the upcoming year. Geography and English are your best subjects. Why would you drop them?

Serena and Venus have stated countless times that tennis is their #1 love. They should each be able to win AT LEAST 5 more Slams before they retire.

Tennisaddict
May 1st, 2005, 02:53 PM
I don't want them to retire as long as they're able to play. I hope they stick around for five or more years as I can't get enough of their games and personalities. The WTA Tour would become less interesting to me if they quit.

Anything can happen when they step on the court and that's what makes watching them exciting. I would have never thought that Serena would win OZ this year as she wasn't playing very well, but she did it against all odds :yeah: :bounce: :yeah: :bounce: :yeah: (I'm still very happy about that :p).

Same could happen with Venus she's not back to her old self yet, but she could also surprise us and win Roland Garros. I do agree that tennis needs them but they need tennis just as much.

graf_fan_
May 1st, 2005, 04:26 PM
The most disturbing part of this is that two women, who once had the potential of dominating the game for years, threw it all away for fame, "outside interests", tournament withdrawls, and poor coaching. Unrealized and untapped potential is what is tragic in this case.

I agree...same with Anna K perhaps, Hantuchova, and others. The lure of fame elsewhere is a tragic trap. My kingdom for........that over there. They Williams' are brimming with enough talent to go down in tennis history.....and they are trading it in for expressing their mediocrity in today's currency.

I think Serena is salvageable...Venus is gone. Serena as much as she might want to walk away to do other things, may be too driven by competition to do it (i hope)!


However, I feel blessed that in my lifetime I witnessed some of the greatest women's tennis players to have ever played the sport, whose results left an indelible mark in sports history: Margaret Court, Billie Jean King, Chris Evert, Martina Navratilova, Stefanie Graf, and Pam Shriver[/B]

and i would add Monica Seles (and delete Shriver)


STEFFI RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thelittlestelf
May 1st, 2005, 04:30 PM
I agree...same with Anna K perhaps, Hantuchova, and others. The lure of fame elsewhere is a tragic trap. My kingdom for........that over there. They Williams' are brimming with enough talent to go down in tennis history.....and they are trading it in for expressing their mediocrity in today's currency.

I think Serena is salvageable...Venus is gone. Serena as much as she might want to walk away to do other things, may be too driven by competition to do it (i hope)!



and i would add Monica Seles (and delete Shriver)


STEFFI RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I really love when people make assumptions about the sisters with no evidence. Both Venus and Serena have stated that tennis it their #1 priority. They've also stressed how much they love the game and want to get back to the top, and the improvements in Venus' game lately have shown that she has re-dedicated herself to the sport she loves.

harloo
May 1st, 2005, 04:33 PM
Hmmm.....I see a bunch of low class comments being made up in this thread :o:tape:

You know the trolls couldn't stay away. Julia is salivating.:tape: :lol:

SMM presented this very well, it's too bad the discussion will be another bash festival of the sisters.

raquel
May 1st, 2005, 04:45 PM
Who were they before they played tennis???



Too much education??? Some of us who have graduate degree's, not diploma's, might argue that point. But, as any world-class athlete, there's a certain amount of "crap" one must deal with in any professional sport, not just tennis. What I find odd is celebrities/sports figures use the media, etc. to gain a level of success, then once they achieve that, act as though they've made their lives hell. Cliche' be darned, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Its the price you pay for fame.




If it weren't for the sport of tennis, Venus and Serena would not likely be the people you know as "Venus and Serena".

In the history of tennis, no one or two persons have ever been larger than the game. The sport of tennis always "wins".

There is a new generation of younger, stronger, tennis players who are capitvating a world-wide audience, while both sisters are playing. In essence, they are being overshadowed at the current time (just my opinion).

With their games in decline and frail bodies, I don't think anyone would be overly shocked that they would retire. Venus, number one for 12 weeks, 4 singles slams and Serena 52-weeks and 7 slams (I think???), haven't historically approached the true greats of tennis.

The most disturbing part of this is that two women, who once had the potential of dominating the game for years, threw it all away for fame, "outside interests", tournament withdrawls, and poor coaching. Unrealized and untapped potential is what is tragic in this case.

Historically, I have tons more respect for players like Navratilova who gave up her endorsement potential by "coming out". She stayed true to tennis, worked hard and mid-career, turned tennis history on its heels, all well knowing she wasn't the most popular for exposing her personal life. That's called dedication to herself and the sport of tennis, in spite of the fact she wouldn't receive the monetary windfall others did.



They WERE once the best in the sport of tennis. Now, all they give their fans is mediocre results with an occasional burst of brilliance. Tragic.

However, I feel blessed that in my lifetime I witnessed some of the greatest women's tennis players to have ever played the sport, whose results left an indelible mark in sports history: Margaret Court, Billie Jean King, Chris Evert, Martina Navratilova, Stefanie Graf, and Pam Shriver

Graduate Degree? Stefanie? Julia, you seem to have quite a lot in common with someone else on here. A lot in common. In fact, if that post wasn't bold, I could have mistaken it for one of LDVTennis's posts. You're not another one of LDVTennis's students are you? I know one of his students posted on the board before.

BTW who is this whole new generation of younger, stronger, tennis players captivating a world wide audience?

graf_fan_
May 1st, 2005, 04:52 PM
I really love when people make assumptions about the sisters with no evidence.

I think we have plenty of evidence with which to speculate, which is pretty much what we do here. but i am glad you love it though!

I mean they have full time ventures outside of tennis...that is enough evidence for me. For great players tennis is the full time job. Think of Serenas domination potential if she didn't play with one hand tied behind her back so to speak.

bandabou
May 1st, 2005, 05:00 PM
why would they retire? I mean Serena just DID win the Australian Open, beating no.3,no.2, no.1 back to back....sooooo, she still got the magic. Of course she isn't as dominating as she used to be, but she still is an elite...

Venus, yeah her form isn't what it used to be...but why run away? If she keeps working hard, the results will come.

daffodil
May 1st, 2005, 05:06 PM
Even though Venus and Serena have not dominated in a couple of years, they are still contenders. Serena played a bad Australian Open and still won her seventh Grand Slam Championship. Venus' form is getting a little better, and she will start contending once again shortly, I'm sure of it.

I think that as long as Serena and Venus are mentally and physically healthy, they should be playing tennis. At least until they're 30.

CJ07
May 1st, 2005, 05:10 PM
haha, you trolls can twist things all you want, but it doesn't really matter.

All I'm saying is that I think their potential could be better fulfilled off the court.
I dunno, I just think that what they can achieve is a lot greater than titles and trophies :shrug:

Especially Venus. Serena I think is more concerned with being an all-time great, and then she'll retire, but I just get the feeling that Venus feels stuck because she herself said recently that she wished she went straight to college (real college) but at the same time she still wants to win majors.

Personally, I would rather see V with that Degree than a Wimbledon title.
Because it will get her 1000x further than a plate.
Just my opinion.

But either way..... they're both great! :hearts: :worship: And as I said, best of luck at whatever they choose to do

drivevolley
May 1st, 2005, 05:19 PM
Too much education??? Some of us who have graduate degree's, not diploma's, might argue that point. But, as any world-class athlete, there's a certain amount of "crap" one must deal with in any professional sport, not just tennis. What I find odd is celebrities/sports figures use the media, etc. to gain a level of success, then once they achieve that, act as though they've made their lives hell. Cliche' be darned, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Its the price you pay for fame.

If it weren't for the sport of tennis, Venus and Serena would not likely be the people you know as "Venus and Serena".

In the history of tennis, no one or two persons have ever been larger than the game. The sport of tennis always "wins".

There is a new generation of younger, stronger, tennis players who are capitvating a world-wide audience, while both sisters are playing. In essence, they are being overshadowed at the current time (just my opinion).

With their games in decline and frail bodies, I don't think anyone would be overly shocked that they would retire. Venus, number one for 12 weeks, 4 singles slams and Serena 52-weeks and 7 slams (I think???), haven't historically approached the true greats of tennis.

The most disturbing part of this is that two women, who once had the potential of dominating the game for years, threw it all away for fame, "outside interests", tournament withdrawls, and poor coaching. Unrealized and untapped potential is what is tragic in this case.

Historically, I have tons more respect for players like Navratilova who gave up her endorsement potential by "coming out". She stayed true to tennis, worked hard and mid-career, turned tennis history on its heels, all well knowing she wasn't the most popular for exposing her personal life. That's called dedication to herself and the sport of tennis, in spite of the fact she wouldn't receive the monetary windfall others did.

They WERE once the best in the sport of tennis. Now, all they give their fans is mediocre results with an occasional burst of brilliance. Tragic.

However, I feel blessed that in my lifetime I witnessed some of the greatest women's tennis players to have ever played the sport, whose results left an indelible mark in sports history: Margaret Court, Billie Jean King, Chris Evert, Martina Navratilova, Stefanie Graf, and Pam Shriver

:worship: Great Post :worship:

moby
May 1st, 2005, 05:26 PM
Retire Venus and Serena. Begone.
Apparently you are too good for tennis.

hablo
May 1st, 2005, 05:32 PM
I don't want any of my favourite players to retire yet!

but that's just me I guess!!!!

I think if they (william sis) retired now, people are gonna say the Sharapovas (her and the youngins) ran them off the court just like when Hingis retired!!

They should just keep playing till they're too old to play successfully in this sport ;) they are too young to retire anyway!

Albireo
May 1st, 2005, 05:35 PM
Let the players retire when they want to retire. There seems to be a need for fans and the media to try to push players out of the game whether or not they're ready; remember Pete Sampras being pestered about retiring just before winning his last Slam?

Only the players know for sure when the game isn't what they need to have dominating their lives anymore. And sometimes not even then; look at the number of athletes who "unretire." As long as the player enjoys the sport, there shouldn't be any talk of "tarnishing one's legacy" or any of that nonsense. When the dedication starts flagging, that's when the "R" word should come into play... not before.

I agree...same with Anna K perhaps, Hantuchova, and others. The lure of fame elsewhere is a tragic trap. My kingdom for........that over there.

At the risk of threadjacking...

One more time: Hantuchova has done a grand total of three magazine shoots-- one in the offseason, and two at tennis tournaments. She is not and never has been "obsessed" about being a model, as some have incorrectly asserted.

And now back to the more-interesting original topic.

moby
May 1st, 2005, 05:35 PM
I don't know about you all, but this thread just reeks of pure arrogance. It's message is very simple: Venus and Serena are too good to be with the lowlife that saturate women's tennis. It is a knock on the WTA and it's players.

The post also makes some unjustified affirmations, because I most certainly do not think Serena and Venus (especially) are no. 1 or 2 right now.

pigam
May 1st, 2005, 06:07 PM
how can someone be saying this :o
If they would be too good they would win everything (which they are not) and they would be bored out of their minds by playing tennis.
They are 2 of the VERY best.

alexusjonesfan
May 1st, 2005, 06:15 PM
*goes back to supporting his lowly faves who are only good enough for tennis*

harloo
May 1st, 2005, 06:16 PM
how can someone be saying this :o
If they would be too good they would win everything (which they are not) and they would be bored out of their minds by playing tennis.
They are 2 of the VERY best.

I do think the sisters are bored with tennis somewhat otherwise they would win more.:o :lol:

Wojtek
May 1st, 2005, 06:18 PM
That Venus & Serena retire in the next two years.

Richard is right. These two ladies are far too talented and intelligent to be spending the best of their years on the tennis court.

They've already proved that they're the best, and they've done everything there is to be done between each other...why keep dragging it on?

Of course it would be great if they could get back to #1 and #2 one more time, but it doesn't matter.

Venus and Serena just have too much class, grace, and education to be dealing with the crap they have to put up with in the Tennis World.

So I say to hell with them. Because the Tennis world needs them a hell of a lot more than they need the Tennis World.

Whatever they end up doing, I just have to say that they really are an inspiration, and that whatever endeavors they decide to pursue, I wish them the best of luck.

Venus and Serena are the best. :worship: :yeah:

Yes they should retire :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

!<blocparty>!
May 1st, 2005, 06:18 PM
Oh for gods sake. It's Tennis that made them two of the most recognizable sportswomen on the planet. Not acting or interior design. I've seen Serena act, she's not brilliant. And her designs aren't, world class, by any means.

The chances are, without tennis they wouldn't be as famous or doing the stuff they are right now.

Venus and Serena just have too much class, grace, and education to be dealing with the crap they have to put up with in the Tennis World.

And everyone would think it was wonderful if they left tennis tomorrow for acting and designing careers? Doesnt every world class sportsperson have to put up with some shit now and then?

Because the Tennis world needs them a hell of a lot more than they need the Tennis World.

:o

Whatever they end up doing, I just have to say that they really are an inspiration, and that whatever endeavors they decide to pursue, I wish them the best of luck.

I agree with that, at least.

bandabou
May 1st, 2005, 06:21 PM
I don't know about you all, but this thread just reeks of pure arrogance. It's message is very simple: Venus and Serena are too good to be with the lowlife that saturate women's tennis. It is a knock on the WTA and it's players.

The post also makes some unjustified affirmations, because I most certainly do not think Serena and Venus (especially) are no. 1 or 2 right now.

Nope...they aren't.....but who is?

graf_fan_
May 1st, 2005, 07:37 PM
At the risk of threadjacking...

One more time: Hantuchova has done a grand total of three magazine shoots-- one in the offseason, and two at tennis tournaments. She is not and never has been "obsessed" about being a model, as some have incorrectly asserted.

And now back to the more-interesting original topic.

It is my firm belief that despite any public denials...she had an eating disorder. It is also my firm opinion that it was based on the pressures she felt from the glam/celebrity side of the tennis world. It is manifest she became sickly thin. I don't care who states the emperor is wearing clothes.......i call them like i see them.

If you see it differently...thats fine with me.

Joana
May 1st, 2005, 07:45 PM
Lol, you really think the world of fashion and especially Hollywood are so much more pleasent and peaceful surrounding that tennis world? :o

Seriously, if they want to retire, so be it. They (especially Serena) don't have anything more to prove to themselves or anyone else. However, it would be a shame. They have at least 5 years of great tennis left in them.

Calimero377
May 1st, 2005, 07:53 PM
That Venus & Serena retire in the next two years.

Richard is right. These two ladies are far too talented and intelligent to be spending the best of their years on the tennis court.

They've already proved that they're the best, and they've done everything there is to be done between each other...why keep dragging it on?

Of course it would be great if they could get back to #1 and #2 one more time, but it doesn't matter.

Venus and Serena just have too much class, grace, and education to be dealing with the crap they have to put up with in the Tennis World.

So I say to hell with them. Because the Tennis world needs them a hell of a lot more than they need the Tennis World.

Whatever they end up doing, I just have to say that they really are an inspiration, and that whatever endeavors they decide to pursue, I wish them the best of luck.

Venus and Serena are the best. :worship: :yeah:


What talents do they have aside from whacking the living hell out of a little yellow ball???
Please enlighten us!

bandabou
May 1st, 2005, 07:57 PM
oh, oh....cali is back...

Calimero377
May 1st, 2005, 08:00 PM
pls do not bash me for this comment

i feel that Serena has already surpassed Seles with her Serena slam
yeah she may be behind by 3 slams but hey what abt those doubles GS??
Seles has established herself as one of th greatest fighters of all time...


Doubles?
Is that this funny competition where tennis journeywomen like Ruano-Pascual, Suarez and Stubbs are top 3 ... ?
Where a 50-year-old grandma is top 12 still?

Yeah, those sister double slams set the tennis world really alight ....

DevilishAttitude
May 1st, 2005, 08:04 PM
This thread is stupid :rolleyes:

I hope that neither Venus or Serena retire for around another 5 years yet. The tour still really needs them and they are the biggest names in tennis.

I don't think they'll do anything near close to there on court achievements.

And I don't think they'll quit either. Neither have said any plans about retiring. If any top player will retire in around 2 years then it'll be Kim.

bandabou
May 1st, 2005, 08:06 PM
Hey Cali, I loved your "slam winners beaten in finals as sign of greatness." That one really made realize how enna ended up as your 3rd greatest ever....;)