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rhz
Apr 27th, 2005, 09:57 AM
in next week ranking. :eek:

Craigy
Apr 27th, 2005, 10:00 AM
i wasnt actually sure of that was going to happen! That's bad!!!! :sad: What will her ranking be by the french open?

VeeReeDavJCap81
Apr 27th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Venus has so many points coming off in Warsaw, and in Berlin. Hopefully she'll still be in the top 15. She might have to face a top player in the 3rd or 4th round at the French. :sad:

Craigy
Apr 27th, 2005, 10:10 AM
SHE COULD PLAY SERENA!!!!!! :bigcry: :hysteric: :crying2: :sobbing: :tears: :speakles:

volta
Apr 27th, 2005, 10:30 AM
well not defending her points makes that. i still donīt know why she and Rena arenīt defending their points in Beijin and Warsaw. Well Vee chosed Fed Cup but from Rena i donīt know

Tenisci
Apr 27th, 2005, 10:32 AM
venus will win Istanbul and will get points :)

Craigy
Apr 27th, 2005, 10:35 AM
venus will win Istanbul and will get points :)
but its only a Teir 3!!! that's not gonna get her a lot of points! :sad:

Tenisci
Apr 27th, 2005, 10:38 AM
but it will help her ranking :)

Craigy
Apr 27th, 2005, 10:40 AM
but it will help her ranking :)
I suppose so. She better win! It's just wrong for Venus to lose a Teir 3 event!!!

jonny84
Apr 27th, 2005, 11:24 AM
I suppose so. She better win! It's just wrong for Venus to lose a Teir 3 event!!!

It will help her ranking but not her seed - as FO will seed the players on the rankings before the Istanbul Cup. Unless they decide to give Venus a Top8 seeding?

Marcus1979
Apr 27th, 2005, 11:35 AM
and I doubt Instalbul will compensate for the berlin pts coming off.

i.e

Tier III is worth 145 pts + quality pts and this being a Tier III I doubt there is much of those up for grabs

Runnerup at Berlin she is risking 286 pts (and the field was weak last year)

volta
Apr 27th, 2005, 12:02 PM
hmm im seeing a very bad draw for her in RG :sad:

Chunchun
Apr 27th, 2005, 01:09 PM
:crying2:

MickeyMolloy
Apr 27th, 2005, 01:24 PM
:o

Craigy
Apr 27th, 2005, 01:59 PM
:o
for goodness sake would you just stay away from any thread to do with the williams sisters beacause all you do is moan about them! GO AWAY!!! :fiery:

Shoulderpova
Apr 27th, 2005, 02:01 PM
poor Venus :sad:

kabuki
Apr 27th, 2005, 02:03 PM
Imagine these round of 16s

Davenport vs. Clijsters
Sharapova vs. Henin
Serena vs. Venus

:scared:

dylan24
Apr 27th, 2005, 02:29 PM
venus isn't very good anymore.
she'll be out of the top 15 soon
and then the top 20

skanky~skanketta
Apr 27th, 2005, 02:59 PM
Imagine these round of 16s

Davenport vs. Clijsters
Sharapova vs. Henin
Serena vs. Venus

:scared:

YOWZA!

dont forget

patty vs dementieva
farina elia vs myskina

plenty of upsets are possible!

Paneru
Apr 27th, 2005, 03:15 PM
venus isn't very good anymore.
she'll be out of the top 15 soon
and then the top 20

I wouldn't bet on that happening.

Venus is still very good and dangerous.
Having gotten tapes of Miami and Amelia Island and
seeing how well she really played and witnessing
Fed Cup to me looks like she's still got it and
working on her game.

I liked the words of Zina & Chris who both
agreed that Venus is dedicated and working
on her game.

She works well with Zina.

It's no surprise that she'll drop right now but, only because she's not defending and that she had something spring up on her as to why she
won't be able to play clay events in Europe. Not because she's not
any good.

Anyone who looked at her schedule at the beginning of the year saw
that she never intended on playing in Warsaw or Berlin.

IMO, this is much ado about nothing.
It's all about one's game and not
about what their ranking is as
Kim has shown.

mishar
Apr 27th, 2005, 03:29 PM
I think Venus decided that she would come into the French this year fresh and without injuries, having been injured in the red clay lead-up the last two years. It's a good strategy, at least worth trying. It means her ranking will drop.

She will go down to about 1770 ranking points. At this moment that would make her the 11th seed. If both Clijsters and Henin pass her (or Bovina or Schnyder) she would face one of the top 4 players in the 4th round.

volta
Apr 27th, 2005, 04:22 PM
venus isn't very good anymore.
she'll be out of the top 15 soon
and then the top 20in your planet maybe but not on Earth :tape:

Elldee
Apr 27th, 2005, 04:35 PM
Well she can gain at Wimbledon but if her ranking is low then she's probably looking at a fourth round exit from there.

Paneru
Apr 27th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Well she can gain at Wimbledon but if her ranking is low then she's probably looking at a fourth round exit from there.

Assuming that she'll lose to
one in the top4 in the rd of 16
which is far from a garunteed lose.

Venus' game has been up and down this year as
Zina garrison pointed out but, the hard work and
dedication she's putting in will yield results sooner
or later.

Meaning, the hard working effort is visible but it's anyone's guess
as to when it will begin to pay off in the big time events.
So, we can't say she'll not win as well as saying she'll
lose.

That in itself makes her more dangerous
and more unpredictable.

We are all quite aware that Venus has never done things
by any other time schedule than her own.

V-MAC
Apr 27th, 2005, 05:18 PM
Venus will be fine:) Ranking never is an issue. If her game comes fully together by the French Open which I am anticipating it will, it doesn't matter if she faces a Serena or a Maria in the 4th round, Vee will be ready :bounce: :)

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 27th, 2005, 05:35 PM
Venus right now will be fine. Capriati is going to lose points at Rome so she should go back up a spot. The problem is the Belgians. Clijsters could catch up to Venus by the end of Berlin and Henin-Hardenne by the end of Rome. If that happens then Venus will not get into the top 10 for the rest of the year.

natacha1
Apr 27th, 2005, 05:52 PM
too bad for venus :(

SelesFan70
Apr 27th, 2005, 06:07 PM
:yawn: It's not like Venus doesn't understand how the ranking system works. If she faces a top player in the 4th round that's her doing. All she can do is play and hope to win...and I'm sure she hopes to win.

Veenut
Apr 27th, 2005, 06:10 PM
I find it interesting how some put all this emphasis on rankings when it has been proven that one can win championships without being at the top in the rankings. The FO is one that it is very difficult to predict a winner because it all comes down to who is playing better for the two weeks and not who is ranked higher.

Venus has the same chance of winning as anyone else in the top regardless of rankings. Presently, it is who ever can play their best tennis for the two weeks is the champion. My wish for Venus is she is able to do that.

hotandspicey
Apr 27th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Venus will be fine, in or out of top 10/15. If she's not worried, then I'm not losing any sleep either.My only wish is that she is healthy at Fo and that she asks for a wild card to Rome.:p

deja_entendu
Apr 27th, 2005, 06:49 PM
She's entering Dokic-ville. :)

DA FOREHAND
Apr 27th, 2005, 06:51 PM
As far as i'm concerned there's no such thing as a bad draw...ea. grand slam champion must win 7 matches to bring home the title.

STEFFI GRAF beat the top three players in the world to win the 99 French Open.

volta
Apr 27th, 2005, 07:01 PM
She's entering Dokic-ville. :)u wish :lol:

starr
Apr 27th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Venus is surely not entering DokicVille yet! But she needs to find a map quick to avoid it.

She's going to be 25, and that's the time a tennis player starts having to put in a lot more work to get the same results. It's not as easy as it is at age 19/20/21. Lots of players have found they need to rededicate themselves to continue to succeed. Venus will either work a lot harder or she won't. It looks like she's having a good time staying fairly close to home instead of working her tail off in Europe. If that works out for her, it's great. If it doesn't, she should rethink everything in her life and decide where tennis fits in.

timray
Apr 27th, 2005, 07:13 PM
YOWZA!

dont forget

patty vs dementieva
farina elia vs myskina

plenty of upsets are possible!

Mauresmo vs Ivanovic

Sanneriet
Apr 27th, 2005, 07:22 PM
She's going to be 25, and that's the time a tennis player starts having to put in a lot more work to get the same results. It's not as easy as it is at age 19/20/21. Lots of players have found they need to rededicate themselves to continue to succeed. Venus will either work a lot harder or she won't. It looks like she's having a good time staying fairly close to home instead of working her tail off in Europe. If that works out for her, it's great. If it doesn't, she should rethink everything in her life and decide where tennis fits in.


I agree. I believe she once said that she did not really see herself playing much past this age (of course, when you are 19-20 years old 25 seems OLD). I think she seems not fully committed to tennis, not fully committed to life outside of tennis. Sometimes, you really do have to choose.

FaceyFacem
Apr 27th, 2005, 07:33 PM
i'm pumped for this french! i wish jennifer were there, just to fully round out the field, but it is truly near perfect, i doubt amelie will miss the french even if she is slightly injured, so i think we'll be nearly full except for cappy
honestly, venus needs to prove to the world she is back at the top, most people don't believe she is (including me) and until she has a big win at a major, no one will believe she is there, if she is forced to play a top 4 player at both paris and london, and she comes up with a win, maybe she can end some criticism

daffodil
Apr 27th, 2005, 08:14 PM
I find Venus' 2005 schedule to be horrible. She can't afford to lose points.

icequeen
Apr 27th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Venus is surely not entering DokicVille yet! But she needs to find a map quick to avoid it.

She's going to be 25, and that's the time a tennis player starts having to put in a lot more work to get the same results. It's not as easy as it is at age 19/20/21. Lots of players have found they need to rededicate themselves to continue to succeed. Venus will either work a lot harder or she won't. It looks like she's having a good time staying fairly close to home instead of working her tail off in Europe. If that works out for her, it's great. If it doesn't, she should rethink everything in her life and decide where tennis fits in.
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Why is it that you guys are worry about Vee and her ranking apparently she is not. Maybe you guys should really read her book and get some insight and know that Venus does not have a one track mind. It seems as though everybody wants her to drop everything else she's doing and concentrate alone on tennis...if that's what you guys want then don't hold your breath. Venus said her greatest wish to to get her college degree and that's exactly what she is doing and I don't blame her one bit.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Apr 27th, 2005, 08:55 PM
I hope she doesn't face Serena in the 4r. It'd be interesting though if she were to meet Davenport in the 4r...then Vee could get revenge for Amelia Island. And for those who didn't see that match, Venus look great...until about the middle of the 2nd set.

icequeen
Apr 27th, 2005, 08:58 PM
i'm pumped for this french! i wish jennifer were there, just to fully round out the field, but it is truly near perfect, i doubt amelie will miss the french even if she is slightly injured, so i think we'll be nearly full except for cappy
honestly, venus needs to prove to the world she is back at the top, most people don't believe she is (including me) and until she has a big win at a major, no one will believe she is there, if she is forced to play a top 4 player at both paris and london, and she comes up with a win, maybe she can end some criticism

Venus does not need to prove anything to anybody...it's players like amelie, and the other slamless wonders.