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ivanovic
Apr 26th, 2005, 08:54 AM
OK,
Sometimes when I have oral presentation, like some sort of a presentation where I speak infront of the class.....I end up feeling so nervous, my heart starts beating a million times per second, I lose my breth, my lips start to dry and then my presentation ends up being done in a rush and just read from the notes. You know what I mean :o . When you get those butterflies in your stomach-feels like you gonna throw up :o .

I mean I'm a silent achiever ;) , I do better in writing and reports, this is my first year at uni and in 7 of my assignmnet,I got 4 distinctions and 3 High distinctions :eek: :eek: :eek: :bounce: .

BUT I'm so crap at public speaking....I have done a confidens building course it doesn't work waste of time. :fiery: .

Does anybody have any tips to help me feel more relaxed, pleazzzzzzzzzzzz its so important as I'm doing Journalism/International studies a subject that requires immensly good rhetoric. I know I have it in me because around my friends and people I know nobody can shut me up :lol: , but once I'm at uni where there is 30 students in my class, I end up feeling shy for some reason :confused: :confused: .

BTW- taking deep breaths- slowly inhaling then excaling doesn't work- it only makes me more dizzy and more nervous before I go on:o .

please help :wavey:

bionic71
Apr 26th, 2005, 11:26 AM
Hi doll.
I sympathise with you greatly.
Getting up in front of a class or a group of people can be a daunting task...one fraught with anxiety and that "sick to the stomach" feeling you describe. Most of it comes from performance anxiety.

You say that you are comfortable expressing yourself in written form and that you have no problem speaking with confidence amongst your friends and family....You also appear to be a good student, if your grades are to be taken as an indication.

Because you have high expectations of your abilities I suspect that your inability to perform when in a public presentation situation only exasperates your fear.

I think you need to lower your expectations on how you perform in the presentation tasks.... getting through the presentation without vomitting might be a good starting point!!! Cpmpleting the task and getting a mediocre result is what you should be aiming at. If your written work is better, then you can always make up the difference of lost marks there.

As for actual techniques....Keep yourself busy when up there and have lots of handouts and overhead projections...this keeps the attention away from you (as the audience is focused on the material and not watching you as you speak).. YOU NEED TO REMOVE THE FOCUS FROM YOU.
Remember the assessment is not on YOU personally...it is how you convey the information...so the additional handouts, summaries, colourful materials and over head projection can only assist you in getting your message across.

First year is a steep learning curve, and presentations are an integral part of many degree programs. Many students are the reverse of what you describe....excelling in presentaions and struggling with written work....

Only practice and further participation will help you overcome your fear. You may never feel totally comfortable with presentations, but you will eventually get to a point where you still hate doing it but the sick to the stomach feeling will not be so over- whelming as it is now.

Once you find a technique that works for you, such as LOTS of handouts, colourful materials, summaries, overhead projections, you should stick to that formula every time you have give a presentation in front of your peers.
Best of Luck...

controlfreak
Apr 26th, 2005, 11:36 AM
Wear dark-coloured underwear.


But seriously, the only way to tackle these things is to be as prepared as possible, and then just look forward to the feeling you will get when the presentation is over. Don't be afraid to write out the whole speech and then just read it. No use pushing yourself too far beyond the boundaries of comfort.
After you've done a handful of these things they get a lot easier (this is coming from a person who has been grateful of dark underwear on multiple occasions!)

kabuki
Apr 26th, 2005, 01:13 PM
1. Plant your feet, and only move for emphasis (don't rock or fidget)

2. Try to say one sentence to one person, and then move your eyes to the next person

3. Find a couple of friendly faces (eye contact and nodding or smiling) and come back to them frequently

4. Imagine everyone in the audience is in their underwear

CooCooCachoo
Apr 26th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Hey :)

Being a student myself, I can share your anxiety when it comes to giving presentations. At some Dutch high schools, it was compulsory or normal to give presentations; but not at mine. That is why, when I started university this year, I started with no experience either.

I studied International Business Administration (I quit because I lack the interest in management and the attitude to become a right-wing idiot in the business world; I am a straight A student and my results at IBA also reflect this) in Rotterdam for a couple of months this year. What characterized this study program is the large number of oral presentations that had to be given, whether they were group, dual of individual assignments. I noticed that in time, you will get used to giving presentations and it will just be normal. Of course you will still feel a bit anxious, but in my case it was much less and I was much more confident going out there for a group of students. For instance when I was leading a discussion on the privatization and liberalisation of the (European) energy markets: many people disagreed with my rather left-wing point of view on this topic, but I was confident, believed in myself and in my ideologies and therefore I was able to perform well. Naturally having quite low self-esteem or self-confidence myself, I noticed how practice really makes 'perfect' in the sense that you get accustomed to doing presentations.

Some practical advice would be:

* Make sure you are prepared. If you are low on confidence and ill-prepared, then your performance out there will suffer big time. On the other hand, when your preparation is outstanding, you will feel more confident when having to address a group of students and therefore this confidence boost will help you to carry out the performance better.

* Never stand behind a desk. This means you hide a large part of your body and gives the public the feeling that you are insecure. Even though you are low on confidence, you can give them the feeling you are very confident by giving your presentation in front of a desk. Show yourself - Don't hide yourself.

* Don't hold your hands behind your back or hold them in your pocket. Or make nervous, pointless gestures with your hands. If you know you have the tendency to do this, have a pen with you to hold in one hand.

* Make sure that you capture the attention of the people you address. Like bionic said, use spreadsheets or overhead projections and make sure that you do not use too much text on one slide. Stick to a few sentences, because more will make sure you will lose your audience's attention.

* Of course, make sure you know what you are talking about. Prepare the presentation in front of one of two people before you actually give the presentation. Time it too, to see if you can say all you want to say in the time you have. Giving a good presentation is great, but if you fail to conform to the time limits, that will cost you many points. So make sure your presentation is not too short, but especially not too long. Also, when timing your presentation, add quite some time to it. You will find that your actual presentations are considerably longer than when you practise them.

Good luck :hatoff:

P.S.: it might be a good idea to abandon the use of phonetic or chat language. Eventually you will get used to it and this might sneak into your scholarly pieces or assignments. Needless to say that your professors or tutors won't be happy with that.

SM
Apr 26th, 2005, 01:37 PM
it gets easier and easier...in my first yr at uni my hands used to shake, now im quite confident and only look at my palm cards to keep myself on track and dont read off them :) it will take time but ull be right

"Sluggy"
Apr 26th, 2005, 01:41 PM
Ive done some excellent presentations, and im borderline pschyzo.... i get very nervous too.

I think you should just talk nice and slowly... clear your throat a few times. Nobody will notice. And talk loudly too. I have no other advice.

SM
Apr 26th, 2005, 01:53 PM
also i like to tell a joke or two about the topic at the beginning of the presentation and make every1 laugh, it creates a more relaxing atmosphere for me for some reason...:) its muc better than standing there like a robot reading facts off a sheet of paper

switz
Apr 26th, 2005, 02:36 PM
omg you are at university?? i thought you were you were like 12.

basically knowing your shit and not worrying about what the people in the class are thinking of you is important.

what uni are at?

alexusjonesfan
Apr 26th, 2005, 02:50 PM
take a lorazepam and call it a day

SM
Apr 26th, 2005, 04:31 PM
omg you are at university?? i thought you were you were like 12.

basically knowing your shit and not worrying about what the people in the class are thinking of you is important.

what uni are at?
and how well do u know him :rolleyes: judging by his posts u think u can judge someones intelligence...this is a different context to uni and whatever he writes serves a different purpose here, obviously he is not gonna be too academic on a message board or too formal in his posts!

Vincent
Apr 26th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Hello everyone, I suffer from nerves serously. I am a pianist myself, nothing would go wrong when I am practising at home, but once I know there are many judges and the audience sitting behind me, I would break down.

:sad:

Andy Mac
Apr 26th, 2005, 08:40 PM
i have the same problem mate...i am a loud mouth in my seat..and often get sent out for talking..but when it comes to speakin for a project in front of the class...i cant do it..and wen im speaking i stare right at my sheet and i go bright red!:sad:
the thing that kidna helps me ( cuz im not really over it ) is to just think nothing of it...just think "k..this will be over in about 2 minutes" and say to yourself that its alright cuz everyone else has to do it too!

SJW
Apr 26th, 2005, 08:43 PM
imagine everyone naked. it will help you relax and smile and breathe easily :)

Andy Mac
Apr 26th, 2005, 08:52 PM
or get really horny:lol:

jimbo mack
Apr 26th, 2005, 09:20 PM
OK,

BTW- taking deep breaths- slowly inhaling then excaling doesn't work- it only makes me more dizzy and more nervous before I go on:o .



i imagine its your anxiety and nervousness thats making you dizzy, not your breathing

switz
Apr 27th, 2005, 01:03 AM
and how well do u know him :rolleyes: judging by his posts u think u can judge someones intelligence...this is a different context to uni and whatever he writes serves a different purpose here, obviously he is not gonna be too academic on a message board or too formal in his posts!

i never remember questioning his intelligence mate. i just find his posting very immature for someone who is supposed to be doing journalism and international studies at university. i have actually not got into arguments with him simply because i thought he was a young kid who didn't know any better.

but i know he probably supports someone you do and therefore it would be impossible to expect objectivity.

Hayato
Apr 27th, 2005, 03:50 AM
I have this same problem :awww:

Andy Mac
Apr 27th, 2005, 03:54 AM
im betting alot of people have this problem!

SM
Apr 27th, 2005, 06:44 AM
i never remember questioning his intelligence mate. i just find his posting very immature for someone who is supposed to be doing journalism and international studies at university. i have actually not got into arguments with him simply because i thought he was a young kid who didn't know any better.

but i know he probably supports someone you do and therefore it would be impossible to expect objectivity.
he supports someone i do so u made the inference i am biased?

if you can't see that you went out of line maybe you should read the rules of the message board that you should have read and agreed to before joining. they are objective standards and you went out of line, which is what i was pointing out. case closed.

Hayato
Apr 27th, 2005, 07:33 AM
I have a problem where I blush all red when i am nervous, but i can still talk properly.

Sharapova's_Boy
Apr 27th, 2005, 08:12 AM
International studies. :hearts:

I love that subject.

Szymanowski
Apr 27th, 2005, 08:49 AM
OK,
Sometimes when I have oral presentation, like some sort of a presentation where I speak infront of the class.....I end up feeling so nervous, my heart starts beating a million times per second, I lose my breth, my lips start to dry and then my presentation ends up being done in a rush and just read from the notes. You know what I mean :o . When you get those butterflies in your stomach-feels like you gonna throw up :o .

I mean I'm a silent achiever ;) , I do better in writing and reports, this is my first year at uni and in 7 of my assignmnet,I got 4 distinctions and 3 High distinctions :eek: :eek: :eek: :bounce: .

BUT I'm so crap at public speaking....I have done a confidens building course it doesn't work waste of time. :fiery: .

Does anybody have any tips to help me feel more relaxed, pleazzzzzzzzzzzz its so important as I'm doing Journalism/International studies a subject that requires immensly good rhetoric. I know I have it in me because around my friends and people I know nobody can shut me up :lol: , but once I'm at uni where there is 30 students in my class, I end up feeling shy for some reason :confused: :confused: .

BTW- taking deep breaths- slowly inhaling then excaling doesn't work- it only makes me more dizzy and more nervous before I go on:o .

please help :wavey:
Hi:wavey:

I sympathise with you completely. I am no good at standing in front of a large crowd talking; I was recently attending a debate with local MPs and I decided to ask a question. I started well, introducing the point I wanted to ask, but then I went to pieces and fumbled the question simply because I was in front of about 100-200 people.:sad:

I also get real bad nerves when I'm performing, I play piano, and I find in performance my fingers just seize up, I start to shake physically, and I can't play nearly as well as when I've been practicing. :sad: I also perform on the flute, and when I have a really high long beautiful note, I often find I am shaking so much I can't play it evenly.:sad:

esquímaux
Apr 27th, 2005, 09:02 AM
Hey, guys can some one hel me with nerves?? (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=163262) hel? Where you nervous when you made the thread title? :);)

ivanovic
Apr 27th, 2005, 09:04 AM
Hi doll.
I sympathise with you greatly.
Getting up in front of a class or a group of people can be a daunting task...one fraught with anxiety and that "sick to the stomach" feeling you describe. Most of it comes from performance anxiety.

You say that you are comfortable expressing yourself in written form and that you have no problem speaking with confidence amongst your friends and family....You also appear to be a good student, if your grades are to be taken as an indication.

Because you have high expectations of your abilities I suspect that your inability to perform when in a public presentation situation only exasperates your fear.

I think you need to lower your expectations on how you perform in the presentation tasks.... getting through the presentation without vomitting might be a good starting point!!! Cpmpleting the task and getting a mediocre result is what you should be aiming at. If your written work is better, then you can always make up the difference of lost marks there.

As for actual techniques....Keep yourself busy when up there and have lots of handouts and overhead projections...this keeps the attention away from you (as the audience is focused on the material and not watching you as you speak).. YOU NEED TO REMOVE THE FOCUS FROM YOU.
Remember the assessment is not on YOU personally...it is how you convey the information...so the additional handouts, summaries, colourful materials and over head projection can only assist you in getting your message across.

First year is a steep learning curve, and presentations are an integral part of many degree programs. Many students are the reverse of what you describe....excelling in presentaions and struggling with written work....

Only practice and further participation will help you overcome your fear. You may never feel totally comfortable with presentations, but you will eventually get to a point where you still hate doing it but the sick to the stomach feeling will not be so over- whelming as it is now.

Once you find a technique that works for you, such as LOTS of handouts, colourful materials, summaries, overhead projections, you should stick to that formula every time you have give a presentation in front of your peers.
Best of Luck...

OMG, thankyou so so much, this will defenitely work. You are so right about me lowering my expectations. Its because I do so well in written tasks that I feel the pressure to do well in the oral, and because I'm bad at public speaking I stuff up, so I think I should take it easy. Thank so much this really helps :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :kiss:

CooCooCachoo
Apr 27th, 2005, 09:08 AM
hel? Where you nervous when you made the thread title? :);)

The fact that ivanovic could well use a spelling checker doesn't mean he/she is suffering from nerves when posting here :lol:

ivanovic
Apr 27th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Thank you everyone so much, I cannot believe how nice you guys really are :hug: .

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, at any time :sad: :awww: . Its just that I though this forum was filled with rude people, where you could say anything :tape: , (because I did observe the board for like few days before joining and there was so many nasty arguments). But really, I have learnt so much since joining WTA world, there are so many interesting and SMART :eek: , very SMART :eek: people here. Once again thanks everybody :bigclap: :yeah: :yeah: . I have read everyones comment, thanks guys :clap2: . I'll be much nicer towards your faves from now on. Sorry to Mauresmo fans :sad: .

Swits thought I was twelve :lol: :rolls: .
No I'm sixteen soon seventeen.So I know I still have not matured properly :p :rocker2: . (but I got my :drive: licence a week ago :angel: )

They made me skip year 9 and bit of year 10 because I was "gifted" :rolleyes: :cuckoo: :smash: . If anyone tells you that your smart and should skip a year, then I would advise people not to take up the offer. Now I'm at uni with like 19, 20 yearolds :scared: . But its cool, cos' we have many things in common, and uni is easy, except orals:D .

but WOW, I cannot believe the great advice I received. thanks.
hmmm...I can get free counselling here :lol: :lol: .

ivanovic
Apr 27th, 2005, 09:59 AM
i never remember questioning his intelligence mate. i just find his posting very immature for someone who is supposed to be doing journalism and international studies at university. i have actually not got into arguments with him simply because i thought he was a young kid who didn't know any better.

but i know he probably supports someone you do and therefore it would be impossible to expect objectivity.

relax :cool: , dude I spend like 8 hours a day at uni and then 3 or 4 at work....so eventually once I get home at 5 or 6 p.m, my brain is totally fried. I really cannot conjecture sophisticated and concise arguments and check my spelling or whatever, I simply type whatever is in my mind :rolleyes:, but I'll try to be more thoughtful :angel: .
But thanks SM for defending me. ( hvala ti, ali bas me briga sta budale mislu o meni :devil: ).
:wavey:

SM
Apr 27th, 2005, 12:39 PM
relax :cool: , dude I spend like 8 hours a day at uni and then 3 or 4 at work....so eventually once I get home at 5 or 6 p.m, my brain is totally fried. I really cannot conjecture sophisticated and concise arguments and check my spelling or whatever, I simply type whatever is in my mind :rolleyes:, but I'll try to be more thoughtful :angel: .
But thanks SM for defending me. ( hvala ti, ali bas me briga sta budale mislu o meni :devil: ).
:wavey:
i fully agree.

my days are similar :tape: and when i post on here this is the one place i just ttype any crap that pops in my head. i dont care about my grammar spelling or anything....its just a damn tennis forum...its just a gr8 way to fill idle time for me

switz
Apr 27th, 2005, 12:57 PM
if you can't see that you went out of line maybe you should read the rules of the message board that you should have read and agreed to before joining. they are objective standards and you went out of line, which is what i was pointing out. case closed.

mate i said i thought he was young kid - that is what i really thought from reading his posts last week which were quite ignorant and indeed offensive to players and posters and i was shocked to hear he was at uni. i gave him advice as well on his problem. i don't really see how i went out of line so much.

but it's cool that he has now explained himself and i'm more than happy to wipe the slate clean :)

can i just ask why you are at uni when you are 16 though?

SM
Apr 27th, 2005, 01:26 PM
ok switz but i saw it as a personal attack on the poster, which is understandable as u madde the implication his mental age is 12...but its kool....its just a tennis forum we all go out of line sometimes including myself ;)

i enjoy your posts btw switz. hehe sucking up ;)...no seriously i do :wavey:

tennislover
Apr 27th, 2005, 02:40 PM
4. Imagine everyone in the audience is in their underwear

:lol: :lol: :lol:
great advice.......
in the other hand if the audience are as ugly as Charles&Camilla that could be very scaring :lol: :lol: :lol:

switz
Apr 28th, 2005, 01:10 AM
ok switz but i saw it as a personal attack on the poster, which is understandable as u madde the implication his mental age is 12...but its kool....its just a tennis forum we all go out of line sometimes including myself ;)

i enjoy your posts btw switz. hehe sucking up ;)...no seriously i do :wavey:

yeah i just realised that you might have thought i was saying he was shit but when i said "know your shit" i meant know your work.

i seriously wasn't trying to criticise him by saying he was young but i made the presumption because of a thread he made where said he didn't know who jana novotna was (as well as some other remarks).

but it's all sorted now. cheers for sucking up ;)

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 21st, 2005, 04:48 AM
listen to music prior to it... helps

Gowza
Aug 21st, 2005, 05:31 AM
don't think about it too much and you need to be confident in the content of the speech and with you getting distinctions and high distinctions you should be confident with the content. you could maybe practice infront of mates and/or family but i think the main thing is to be confident in the content and not thinking too much about everything else.

Geisha
Aug 21st, 2005, 05:37 AM
RACE

through

it.