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Paldias
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:08 PM
I hope he sorts this whole mess out. I'm not sure what to believe. I hear one thing in the news, another thing in the newspapers, and then other from the polticians. Hopefully tonight at 7 PM I'll be able to understand what the hell is going on.

Any thoughts?

PointBlank
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:13 PM
If its such big news how come no one outside Canada knows of it. :shrug:

PointBlank
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:15 PM
I didt mean that in a bad way..but whats so big hes addressing the country on..

KoOlMaNsEaN
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:18 PM
I hope he apologizes to us about what the liberal party has done to canada. especially concerning the sponsorship scandal that keeps going. He better not say we are still strong and all that shit or it will be extremely boring.
This is the liberals last chance or they have no hope in the next(whenever it is) election..
It will happen at 7.45pmET and it will be 6 minutes long

Paldias
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:20 PM
There's been a huge sponsorship scandal in Canada. The Liberal Government was giving out funds out to random companies here and their expecting things in return (happened in '90s Jean Chretien as leader) and it's just been exposed now. Recent poll results have dipped for the Liberals and Paul Martin is trying to fix everything by explaining what is going on since we hear different things from different people all the time. There's going to be an election soon and this is going to be a hot topic so Prime Minister Martin wants to make sure everyone understands what is going on.

Paldias
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:21 PM
I hope he apologizes to us about what the liberal party has done to canada. especially concerning the sponsorship scandal that keeps going. He better not say we are still strong and all that shit or it will be extremely boring.
This is the liberals last chance or they have no hope in the next(whenever it is) election..
It will happen at 7.45pmET and it will be 6 minutes long

Actually it will be at 7:00 PM they changed it since networks couldn't fit it in their schedule.

By the way why should he apologize for what the Liberal Party has done, he wasn't part of it and it was only a select group of people who did do the damage. I'm not defending what the Liberal PARTY did but I sure as heck don't blame Martin.

Scotso
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:21 AM
so what did he say?

Cosmopolitan
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:24 AM
Ya, what was said?

Paldias
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:33 AM
Here is the transcript of his speech. :) By the way Steven, you've got your apology somewhere in there ;)

Good evening.

I want to talk to you directly tonight – about the problems in the sponsorship program; about how I’ve responded to them as your prime minister; and about the timing of the next general election.

Let me speak plainly: what happened with the sponsorship file occurred on the watch of a Liberal government. Those who were in power are to be held responsible. And that includes me.

I was the Minister of Finance. Knowing what I've learned this past year, I am sorry that we weren’t more vigilant - that I wasn't more vigilant. Public money was misdirected and misused. That’s unacceptable. And that is why I apologized to the Canadian people a year ago.

But taking responsibility is about more than words. I want to tell you what I’ve done as Prime Minister to deal with the sponsorship scandal – to make sure it does not happen again, to make sure that those who violated the public trust will be identified and will pay the consequences.

On December 12, 2003, I cancelled the sponsorship program. It was my very first act on my very first day in office.

When the Auditor-General’s report was publicly tabled, I acted immediately by ordering a fully independent commission of inquiry, under Mr. Justice John Gomery. Its mandate is to get to the bottom of what happened, and to do it in full view of Canadians. It will report before the end of the year.

And I think you’ll agree – Judge Gomery is leaving no stone unturned.

In addition, I fired Alfonso Gagliano, the minister responsible for the sponsorship program, from his appointment as Ambassador to Denmark.

I put in strict new controls on spending within every single government department.

My government brought forward whistleblower legislation to ensure that when public servants and others come forward with evidence of wrongdoing, they are protected, not punished.

To recover taxpayers’ money – money that went to those who did not earn it -- I ordered my government to sue 19 people and companies for more than $40-million.

I committed to acting on the recommendations of Judge Gomery when he brings forth his final report. And I myself testified before his commission, answering any and all questions.

Finally, I ordered that the Liberal party bring in auditors to conduct a forensic examination of its books - and call in the RCMP to investigate what took place during that period.

Let me emphasize that point: if so much as a dollar is found to have made its way into the Liberal party from ill-gotten gains, it will be repaid to the people of Canada. I want no part of that money.

As Prime Minister, I will never hesitate to describe what happened on the sponsorship file for what is was: an unjustifiable mess. It’s up to me to clean it up. That’s my job. I am cleaning it up. And I am willing to be judged on my record of action.

In recent weeks, fallout from the sponsorship inquiry has led to speculation about an election – which in turn is consuming virtually all political discussion, at least here on Parliament Hill. Initiatives to improve health care, strengthen our economy and ensure for Canada a role of pride and influence in the world are being obscured by partisan jousting.

In short, the Parliament you sent to Ottawa less than a year ago is preoccupied with election talk and with political strategy – not with the job you sent us here to do.

As people focus their attention on the commission’s hearings, let’s remember that the inquiry is being held in front of a judge for good reason.

There is conflicting testimony; only the judge is in a position to determine the truth. Only he can cut through the partisan politics. Only he can tell us what happened and who was responsible.

We’ve all heard that the opposition may defeat the government and take the country to the polls for the second time in a year.

I am prepared to face Canadians and have them judge my response to this serious test of leadership. I will be politically accountable. But I believe that before there is an election, you are entitled to answers – to the answers that Judge Gomery is working toward. I believe that Canadians deserve a full and frank accounting of all the facts. Fairness and due process require nothing less.

For that reason, I commit to you tonight that I will call a general election within 30 days of the publication of the commission’s final report and recommendations. Let Judge Gomery do his work. Let the facts come out. And then the people of Canada will have their say.

If the Opposition forces an election before then, that is their choice. But I believe we can do better. I believe we can – and we should – use the coming months to pursue the public’s business. To act on the issues that matter most to you and make a difference in your life.

If we are to have an election, one that will be at least in part about the work of Judge Gomery, surely that election should occur only when we have the work of Judge Gomery.

In closing, let me say this: there are people who think I was wrong to call this inquiry, wrong to expose my government to the political cost of the scrutiny that has ensued. They warn we will pay a price in the next election. And perhaps we will.

But I trust your judgment. And I will not dishonour this office by trying to conceal or diminish such offensive wrongdoing. I have too much respect for this place.

When I was young, I practically lived here in the Parliament Buildings. My father was a cabinet minister in four Liberal governments. He taught me that those who serve in public office have a duty to protect the integrity of government.

My pledge to you tonight is that I will live up to that ideal. I went into public life because I believe in the good that government can do. And I will do my all as Prime Minister to make sure that your government is worthy of your respect.

The final judgment on whether I have done that will be yours.

Thank you. And good night.

Paldias
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:34 AM
Here is the video as well: http://www.cbc.ca/clips/ram-newsworld/martin_paul050421.ram

Crazy Canuck
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:37 AM
Thanks, Chubin.

PB - why on earth should anybody outside Canada care? It's not like we're declaring war on anybody.

Cosmopolitan
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:57 AM
Americans might care. If the Conservatives take power Canada will formally join the states... :lol:

Crazy Canuck
Apr 22nd, 2005, 04:22 AM
Like we did last time the conservatives were in power? :confused:

Cosmopolitan
Apr 22nd, 2005, 04:25 AM
Like we did last time the conservatives were in power? :confused:

Well, Canada and the States were joined economically with the Free Trade Agreement under Mulroney who was, yes, a Conservative.

All that remains now is the political and Harper seems to want to align Canada's policies with Americans' (i.e. missile defense, etc..).

Cosmopolitan
Apr 22nd, 2005, 04:27 AM
Social integration seems possible too (definition of marriage).

Scotso
Apr 23rd, 2005, 04:09 AM
I would be more than happy if Canada would pay for our missile defense thingy :p

Barrie_Dude
Apr 24th, 2005, 01:31 AM
Americans might care. If the Conservatives take power Canada will formally join the states... :lol:Practically the case now

canadian_bass_2
Apr 24th, 2005, 01:50 AM
Hopefully Pauly didn't just screw himself over, which he fully might have. It's not very often that the PM goes on National Prime-time TV to talk to the nation, pre-recorded or not.

I just hope that this doesn't open the door to the Conservative Party taking over Canada. I don't appreciate the idea of Stephen Harper taking over, but, equally, I don't want Jack Leighton to take over either.

The Liberals are doing just fine. I'm glad that Paul decided to address the nation, he didn't have to do it over TV, but whatever. Just let them figure out who was responsible for the scandal, and then have a vote. Just don't make it so that it's an "ALL CONSERVATIVE, ALL THE TIME" North America...please...

Barrie_Dude
Apr 24th, 2005, 01:52 AM
Hopefully Pauly didn't just screw himself over, which he fully might have. It's not very often that the PM goes on National Prime-time TV to talk to the nation, pre-recorded or not.

I just hope that this doesn't open the door to the Conservative Party taking over Canada. I don't appreciate the idea of Stephen Harper taking over, but, equally, I don't want Jack Leighton to take over either.

The Liberals are doing just fine. I'm glad that Paul decided to address the nation, he didn't have to do it over TV, but whatever. Just let them figure out who was responsible for the scandal, and then have a vote. Just don't make it so that it's an "ALL CONSERVATIVE, ALL THE TIME" North America...please...Uhmmmmmm, it is Jack Layton! You are not from Toronto are you?