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Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:01 PM
I have heard a lot of people talk of Maria Sharapova dominating the tour as soon as she gains a little more experience and is done growing up physically. I would like to know why some people assume this is going to happen. I mean she has a good game no doubt, but i tend to agree with Mashona Washington's assessment last year "Maria is a good player but she doesnt have any Oh My God shots".....she reminds me of a safer venus (when venus was at her peak of course)....she can't hit the amazing winners that venus and serena can but she can hit a lot of good ones in a match. I would be hard pressed to believe that if Clijsters,Henin,Serena,Venus,Molik, and Mauresmo are all still on the tour in years to come that she will dominate all of them in the slams. Maybe I am missing something but i just find her to be a very good player....and not necessarily a future great.

No Name Face
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:15 PM
my gut says i dont think she will dominate

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:17 PM
There will be so many good players about that nobody will be able to dominate week in week out like they used to. IMO.

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:19 PM
There will be so many good players about that nobody will be able to dominate week in week out like they used to. IMO.

I think there is the very real possibility that one or two players will dominate the slams though... i personally believe that if serena wanted to she could dominate the slams for the next 3 or 4 years at least...but that all depends on the amount of effort she is willing to put in.

le bon vivant
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:20 PM
No, Petrova will dominate. :ras: ALL 4 Slams, dammit.

SJW
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:21 PM
There will be so many good players about that nobody will be able to dominate week in week out like they used to. IMO.

my thoughts exactly. :)

LeRoy.
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:22 PM
I think and hope that she will. :)

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:23 PM
I think there is the very real possibility that one or two players will dominate the slams though... i personally believe that if serena wanted to she could dominate the slams for the next 3 or 4 years at least...but that all depends on the amount of effort she is willing to put in.

Thats stupid. :rolleyes: 3 or 4 years at least? Whatever.

Well you think what you like, in my opinion there will be no real dominant player over the next couple of years with Kim, Justine, Serena, Maria all set to play great tennis.

alexusjonesfan
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Thats stupid. :rolleyes: 3 or 4 years at least? Whatever.


don't you know, her problem is like Venus she hasn't wanted to play well enough. :rolleyes:

UDiTY
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:28 PM
No, not if the Belgians are healthy:)

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:36 PM
Thats stupid. :rolleyes: 3 or 4 years at least? Whatever.

Well you think what you like, in my opinion there will be no real dominant player over the next couple of years with Kim, Justine, Serena, Maria all set to play great tennis.

how is that stupid....have you seen serena play lol....i didnt say serena would dominate the tour completely but yes i do believe that if she really put in the right amount of effort she could average 2 to 3 slams for the next 3-4 years...why is that so hard to believe...graf did it on a number of occasions..i dont think some of you remember just how good serena can be....she dominated henin,clijsters,venus in the slams all when they were at their bests...minus maria and i dont see much of a difference in the tour from 02-03'....and serena dominated the slams then...she can do it again

le bon vivant
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:36 PM
Thats stupid. :rolleyes: 3 or 4 years at least? Whatever.

Serena has the greatest Grand Slam record out of anyone on tour, and was only slamless for 5 months. 2 finals out of 4 slams played. 1 Win, 2 Quarters. I dont see how that suggestion is stupid. Maybe something that you dont find desirable, but definitely not stupid. Winning 7 rounds in a Grand Slam defeating three of the world's Top 5 consecutively doesnt spell well for the rest of the tour's chances on non-Clay surfaces for the next 3 years as long as Serena stays healthy. :)

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:38 PM
don't you know, her problem is like Venus she hasn't wanted to play well enough. :rolleyes:

its not that she doesn't want to play well.....its that she doesnt want to do all the other stuff that it requires to be at her peak...her movement can be better...her consistency can be better...her serve can be better than they are right now....its all a matter of her being willing to put the extra practice and off-court training into it like she did in 02'

CooCooCachoo
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:39 PM
Let's hope not.

Dominance is boring.

_LuCaS_
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:40 PM
no player will dominate in the next 2 3 years and this is good for the wta

LeRoy.
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:40 PM
don't you know, her problem is like Venus she hasn't wanted to play well enough. :rolleyes:

:nerner: She beat Justine :woohoo:

j/k ;)

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:49 PM
how is that stupid....have you seen serena play lol....i didnt say serena would dominate the tour completely but yes i do believe that if she really put in the right amount of effort she could average 2 to 3 slams for the next 3-4 years...why is that so hard to believe...graf did it on a number of occasions..i dont think some of you remember just how good serena can be....she dominated henin,clijsters,venus in the slams all when they were at their bests...minus maria and i dont see much of a difference in the tour from 02-03'....and serena dominated the slams then...she can do it again

No, I havent seen Serena play :rolleyes:

Only if Serena puts the effort in? What about other players? If you went to Serena now would she tell you "I could put a lot more effort into my tennis"? I don't think people can comment on the efforts she puts in, really. Yeah they go to parties etc, but she and Venus can't be out partying/"premiering" every hour of the day. You've only got to look at them to see what sort of shape they're in.

Plus, Henin and Kim werent at their bests during 2002(have you seen them play?). And in 2003 Justine took the French with Kim having great opportunities to win the Aus. Yeah she Serena played amazing at wimbledon but it wasnt "domination" in the previous two.

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Serena has the greatest Grand Slam record out of anyone on tour, and was only slamless for 5 months. 2 finals out of 4 slams played. 1 Win, 2 Quarters. I dont see how that suggestion is stupid. Maybe something that you dont find desirable, but definitely not stupid. Winning 7 rounds in a Grand Slam defeating three of the world's Top 5 consecutively doesnt spell well for the rest of the tour's chances on non-Clay surfaces for the next 3 years as long as Serena stays healthy. :)

The players arent just going to keep playing the same against Serena. I thought the suggestion was stupid mainly because of the "at least" after it. And again, if Venus, Justine, Kim, Lindsay were all playing at least close to their bests, we could well have seen a different winner at this years aus. I'm not taking anything away from Serena, she deserved that title and played great at times, I think her never say die attitude won it her, more than her strokes. But, really, how many of the "elite" did she catch at their bests?

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:56 PM
No, I havent seen Serena play :rolleyes:

Only if Serena puts the effort in? What about other players? If you went to Serena now would she tell you "I could put a lot more effort into my tennis"? I don't think people can comment on the efforts she puts in, really. Yeah they go to parties etc, but she and Venus can't be out partying/"premiering" every hour of the day. You've only got to look at them to see what sort of shape they're in.

Plus, Henin and Kim werent at their bests during 2002(have you seen them play?). And in 2003 Justine took the French with Kim having great opportunities to win the Aus. Yeah she Serena played amazing at wimbledon but it wasnt "domination" in the previous two.

its obvious that serena has not put in the same amount of effort into her tennis that she did in 02' and 03' yet since her return....she isn't quite as fit and her movement is less effective

and this crap about henin and clijsters being at their peak after serena and venus got injured in 03' ....... :lol: :lol: .....how convenient right :rolleyes: .....and serena still beat kim and should've beaten justine (but we won't get into that right now) at the aussie and french....face it serena is the best active player on the tour and if she is willing to put the right amount of work in she will dominate the slams for the next couple of years

SJW
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:57 PM
The players arent just going to keep playing the same against Serena. I thought the suggestion was stupid mainly because of the "at least" after it. And again, if Venus, Justine, Kim, Lindsay were all playing at least close to their bests, we could well have seen a different winner at this years aus. I'm not taking anything away from Serena, she deserved that title and played great at times, I think her never say die attitude won it her, more than her strokes. But, really, how many of the "elite" did she catch at their bests?

it seems like you ARE taking something away from Serena though..:confused:

Szymanowski
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:58 PM
I don't know about dominate. She may well become the best player next year, but to dominate means a whole lot more I think. Like what Federer can do. I really hope she becomes the best player over this and next year, but I honestly can't answer; it's just too close between the top players now, and we have the two Belgians, who both look really quite strong, then there's Serena, Lindsay, and Mauresmo, who's still going strong.

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:58 PM
The players arent just going to keep playing the same against Serena. I thought the suggestion was stupid mainly because of the "at least" after it. And again, if Venus, Justine, Kim, Lindsay were all playing at least close to their bests, we could well have seen a different winner at this years aus. I'm not taking anything away from Serena, she deserved that title and played great at times, I think her never say die attitude won it her, more than her strokes. But, really, how many of the "elite" did she catch at their bests?

it doesn't matter how the other players play frankly....only serena can beat serena ;) :p

le bon vivant
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:00 PM
The players arent just going to keep playing the same against Serena. I thought the suggestion was stupid mainly because of the "at least" after it. And again, if Venus, Justine, Kim, Lindsay were all playing at least close to their bests, we could well have seen a different winner at this years aus. I'm not taking anything away from Serena, she deserved that title and played great at times, I think her never say die attitude won it her, more than her strokes. But, really, how many of the "elite" did she catch at their bests?

It works both ways: Serena was far from her best as well at the AO, its not as if she was peaking while everyone else was in bad form at the AO this year. Serena is farthest from her peak than anyone except Venus at this point. Peak Serena beats Mauresmo in straights and Lindsay in straight sets, especially. She caught Maria playing as well as Maria can possibly play, so the fact that Serena missed out on the "elites playing their bests" is neither here nor there at this point - that would be like discrediting JHH's US Open and AO slams because the top 2 elites of the period were out with injury.

Orangina
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:10 PM
i think she will be inside top3, but i don´t think she will dominate

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:11 PM
its obvious that serena has not put in the same amount of effort into her tennis that she did in 02' and 03' yet since her return....she isn't quite as fit and her movement is less effective

and this crap about henin and clijsters being at their peak after serena and venus got injured in 03' ....... :lol: :lol: .....how convenient right :rolleyes: .....and serena still beat kim and should've beaten justine (but we won't get into that right now) at the aussie and french....face it serena is the best active player on the tour and if she is willing to put the right amount of work in she will dominate the slams for the next couple of years

I don't like saying x should have beaten x because the match isnt over until the last point, as Serena has showed at the aus in 03 and 05. Serena could have beaten Justine, and Kim could have beaten Serena blah blah.

it seems like you ARE taking something away from Serena though.. :confused:


Well, how do you see it? IMO it wasnt like her Wimbledon title in 2003 or French in 02 when the two belgians were there, Venus playing awesome (wimbledon 03) or whatever. Thats when I thought Serena was playing her best.

I don't know. I am obviously a little bit pissed about this slam anyway ;) :p :lol:

It works both ways: Serena was far from her best as well at the AO, its not as if she was peaking while everyone else was in bad form at the AO this year. Serena is farthest from her peak than anyone except Venus at this point. Peak Serena beats Mauresmo in straights and Lindsay in straight sets, especially. She caught Maria playing as well as Maria can possibly play, so the fact that Serena missed out on the "elites playing their bests" is neither here nor there at this point - that would be like discrediting JHH's US Open and AO slams because the top 2 elites of the period were out with injury.

Serena beat momo in straight sets :confused: And no, peak Serena does not beat Lindsay in straight sets. See USO QF 2001 :)

I'm not argueing anymore. Somone bump this thread in 4 years and laugh at me, I don't care its what I think.

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:15 PM
I'll take back the Venus playing awesome bit. She was, but injury stopped her. I really thought that was her slam.

SJW
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:19 PM
Well, how do you see it? IMO it wasnt like her Wimbledon title in 2003 or French in 02 when the two belgians were there, Venus playing awesome (wimbledon 03) or whatever. Thats when I thought Serena was playing her best.

I don't know. I am obviously a little bit pissed about this slam anyway ;) :p :lol:


Serena beat momo in straight sets :confused: And no, peak Serena does not beat Lindsay in straight sets. See USO QF 2001 :)

I'm not argueing anymore. Somone bump this thread in 4 years and laugh at me, I don't care its what I think.

well Serena has beaten some of the best players of her generation in her slams.
if i were you i wouldnt talk about Serena-Lindsay h2h because its lopsided tbh. Serena has beaten Lindsay and a few of these occured in years that Lindsay held the #1 spot. so it could be argued that less than peak Serena can beat peak Lindsay in straights on occasions.

btw did you know that Serena has beaten Lindsay every year since 1998 except in 2004. not a bad record. i think you're right, you being mad about Lindsay losing to Serena is clouding your objectivity.

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Serena beat momo in straight sets :confused: And no, peak Serena does not beat Lindsay in straight sets. See USO QF 2001 :)

see us open semis 2002' ;) :p ....or charleston 03' semi ;)

volta
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:23 PM
lets just wait and see if she will or wont

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:25 PM
well Serena has beaten some of the best players of her generation in her slams.
if i were you i wouldnt talk about Serena-Lindsay h2h because its lopsided tbh. Serena has beaten Lindsay and a few of these occured in years that Lindsay held the #1 spot. so it could be argued that less than peak Serena can beat peak Lindsay in straights on occasions.

btw did you know that Serena has beaten Lindsay every year since 1998 except in 2004. not a bad record. i think you're right, you being mad about Lindsay losing to Serena is clouding your objectivity.

I'm perfectly aware of what Venus and Serena have done to the career of Lindsay *sigh* lol.

Not sure about the peak Lindsay less than peak Serena comment though? :( :confused:

What do you think about the Aus open? Will Serena step it up as Maria etc etc play great during the next 3-4 years at least?

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:26 PM
see us open semis 2002' ;) :p ....or charleston 03' semi ;)

OK, I missed out the "peak" in front of Lindsay there ;) Both of the above Lindsay was nowhere near. My fault.

random fan
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:28 PM
To dominate she needs to upper her level of play once again as she did it between the seasons improving her game on hardcourts and outdoor condiserably. Now it is time to see how she will fare on the clay. There are also some others aspects of her game that could be improved, her movement could be better for example or play at the net.

I think that she will be able to dominate eventually given she will be able to preserve herself from seriuos injuries. But she has a great proffesional team that watch over her (one of her biggest advantages actually) so I think she will be allright.

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:28 PM
OK, I missed out the "peak" in front of Lindsay there ;) Both of the above Lindsay was nowhere near. My fault.

but she had big lead in the second set at the us open and had set points....and she was nowhere near her peak :confused: ....she's only won the us open once so a semi seems to suggest pretty good form all things considered

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:30 PM
but she had big lead in the second set at the us open and had set points....and she was nowhere near her peak :confused: ....she's only won the us open once so a semi seems to suggest pretty good form all things considered

The set points were in the first. And it wasnt a big lead. Unfortunately she was nowhere near her peak no. She'd just come back after a long injury lay off and said in her post match interview "I'm totally not there mentally yet".

Her draw was a cakewalk to the semi's. So it didnt suggest great form really.

SJW
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:32 PM
I'm perfectly aware of what Venus and Serena have done to the career of Lindsay *sigh* lol.

Not sure about the peak Lindsay less than peak Serena comment though? :( :confused:

What do you think about the Aus open? Will Serena step it up as Maria etc etc play great during the next 3-4 years at least?

Lindsay was #1 in parts of 98 99 00 and 01 right (just guessing here)? Serena beat her as a 16 yr old in Sydney (ok it was close) 98 (i guess it was before the AO), in 99 she beat her 4 and 2 in IW, and 3 and 4 in Munich, and in 2001 she beat her (get this) 2 and 1 in IW. what i meant was even when Lindsay was at the top of the game, Serena could still handle her with relative ease.

re. Serena vs Maria. who knows what the future holds. i dont think ANYBODY will be dominating like i said before, so i really cant answer that q :)

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:38 PM
Lindsay was #1 in parts of 98 99 00 and 01 right (just guessing here)? Serena beat her as a 16 yr old in Sydney (ok it was close) 98 (i guess it was before the AO), in 99 she beat her 4 and 2 in IW, and 3 and 4 in Munich, and in 2001 she beat her (get this) 2 and 1 in IW. what i meant was even when Lindsay was at the top of the game, Serena could still handle her with relative ease.

re. Serena vs Maria. who knows what the future holds. i dont think ANYBODY will be dominating like i said before, so i really cant answer that q :)

Yeah I guess, I'm not argueing who's the best here. I think thats obvious. But, as a Lindsay fan I'd like to think she could push Serena when at her peak. :angel: You mention that IW match (which I have not heard about); Lindsay "beat the living daylights" out of Serena last summer. I know Serena wasnt number one or on top of her form at the time(maybe like Lindsay in 01 IW? :confused: ), but had made the wimbledon final, so in all fairness wasnt completely out of sorts.

Whatzup
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:41 PM
I don't think she will dominate yet next year! She doesn't have the game to be totally dominating. I think she can become world #1 next year, maybe this year but she will still have a lot of weeks where she will crashed out early in the tournaments. She's also still young. I think she will win some Grand Slams later this year and next year, but she won't dominate totally!

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:43 PM
Yeah I guess, I'm not argueing who's the best here. I think thats obvious. But, as a Lindsay fan I'd like to think she could push Serena when at her peak. :angel: You mention that IW match (which I have not heard about); Lindsay "beat the living daylights" out of Serena last summer. I know Serena wasnt number one or on top of her form at the time(maybe like Lindsay in 01 IW? :confused: ), but had made the wimbledon final, so in all fairness wasnt completely out of sorts.

you and i do agree on one thing....lindsay certainly did beat the living daylights out of serena in la..........but i still would say when both are at their peaks serena wins in straights (mind you its still close...not a blow out or anything)...maybe like 7-5 6-3 :p

random fan
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:48 PM
:topic: :)

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:51 PM
:topic: :)

:D i went off topic on my own thread :tape: :lol:

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 07:58 PM
you and i do agree on one thing....lindsay certainly did beat the living daylights out of serena in la..........but i still would say when both are at their peaks serena wins in straights (mind you its still close...not a blow out or anything)...maybe like 7-5 6-3 :p

just out of interest do you know where i got the living daylights comment from?

and as ive mentioned, did you see the USO 01 QF?

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:10 PM
just out of interest do you know where i got the living daylights comment from?

and as ive mentioned, did you see the USO 01 QF?

no i dont know where you got the comment....but yes i have the 01' us open qf.

deja_entendu
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:12 PM
I mean she has a good game no doubt, but i tend to agree with Mashona Washington's assessment last year "Maria is a good player but she doesnt have any Oh My God shots".....she reminds me of a safer venus (when venus was at her peak of course)....she can't hit the amazing winners that venus and serena can but she can hit a lot of good ones in a match.

:retard:

Didn't Mashona get the crap beat out of her in that match?? She won like 1 or 2 games? :tape: I know you're not stupid enough to actually think that Maria's forehand and backhand, which btw are more dominant shots than the Williams sisters groundstrokes (which is why you see V&S running like hell against Maria, she pins them 10 feet behind the baseline), aren't "oh my god" shots (whatever that means, anyway). I also know you don't believe that Maria's serve, which is way better than Venus' and these days at least as good as Serena's, isn't an amazing, "oh my god" shot. More likely you're just bitter :sad: at the 2-4 record the sisters have recorded against a 17 year old girl who dictates from the first point to the last against them, and instead of recognizing all those crisp winners she belts over and over again, you just say "well that winner was GOOD but not AMAZING". :wavey: Which is funny, maybe we should tell Maria that all those winners she hits are some how inferior to the winners everyone else hits (and hits less often) :lol:

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:13 PM
no i dont know where you got the comment....but yes i have the 01' us open qf.

Then your comment about both at their peaks and Serena winning in two is a bit stupid then :)

Serena said them comments about her defeat to Lindsay, by the way. Thats why I quoted them.

SJW
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:19 PM
:retard:

Didn't Mashona get the crap beat out of her in that match?? She won like 1 or 2 games? :tape: I know you're not stupid enough to actually think that Maria's forehand and backhand, which btw are more dominant shots than the Williams sisters groundstrokes (which is why you see V&S running like hell against Maria, she pins them 10 feet behind the baseline), aren't "oh my god" shots (whatever that means, anyway). I also know you don't believe that Maria's serve, which is way better than Venus' and these days at least as good as Serena's, isn't an amazing, "oh my god" shot. More likely you're just bitter :sad: at the 2-4 record the sisters have recorded against a 17 year old girl who dictates from the first point to the last against them, and instead of recognizing all those crisp winners she belts over and over again, you just say "well that winner was GOOD but not AMAZING". :wavey: Which is funny, maybe we should tell Maria that all those winners she hits are some how inferior to the winners everyone else hits (and hits less often) :lol:

Mashona beat Sharapova last year. so it could have happened then. im not sure but maybe it did:wavey:

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:22 PM
Then your comment about both at their peaks and Serena winning in two is a bit stupid then :)

Serena said them comments about her defeat to Lindsay, by the way. Thats why I quoted them.

serena wasn't at her peak at 01' us open...she lost to venus in straight sets in the final ;)

Brooks.
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:24 PM
:retard:

Didn't Mashona get the crap beat out of her in that match?? She won like 1 or 2 games? :tape: I know you're not stupid enough to actually think that Maria's forehand and backhand, which btw are more dominant shots than the Williams sisters groundstrokes (which is why you see V&S running like hell against Maria, she pins them 10 feet behind the baseline), aren't "oh my god" shots (whatever that means, anyway). I also know you don't believe that Maria's serve, which is way better than Venus' and these days at least as good as Serena's, isn't an amazing, "oh my god" shot. More likely you're just bitter :sad: at the 2-4 record the sisters have recorded against a 17 year old girl who dictates from the first point to the last against them, and instead of recognizing all those crisp winners she belts over and over again, you just say "well that winner was GOOD but not AMAZING". :wavey: Which is funny, maybe we should tell Maria that all those winners she hits are some how inferior to the winners everyone else hits (and hits less often) :lol:

:rolleyes: :retard: :yawn: :smash: :bs: :cuckoo:

SJW
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:26 PM
:rolleyes: :retard: :yawn: :smash: :bs: :cuckoo:

i may copy and paste that. his posts always make me feel the exact same way

LeRoy.
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:28 PM
Not suprising that this thread is getting far more replies from Maria detractors than her fans. Oh how insecure some people are :lol:

SJW
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:31 PM
Not suprising that this thread is getting far more replies from Maria detractors than her fans. Oh how insecure some people are :lol:

you obviously feel you haven't made enough of a fool of yourself today.

a lot of this thread was about Serena. can you read? didn't think so :lol: i wouldn't talk about being insecure if i were you :lol:

LeRoy.
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:33 PM
The above post from a person i didn't even call a "detractor" proves my point. :)

SJW
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:40 PM
The above post from a person i didn't even call a "detractor" proves my point. :)

you never had one. :)

miss you in the Essence thread btw. know you've been avoiding that :)

Dan23
Apr 19th, 2005, 11:27 PM
....she can't hit the amazing winners that venus and serena can....:lol:
Dont know which Maria youve been watching :scratch: ;)
Maria can hit as clean and accurate a winner as anyone going around..

xan
Apr 20th, 2005, 12:02 AM
Maria has what it takes to be a dominant player. When she is in full flight, other players find her hard to live with, particularly her pace and shotmaking.

As for 2006 - who knows? It's too far away. Hopefully she will continue to improve in 2005.

Tati & Dani
Apr 20th, 2005, 01:05 AM
maybe, to soon to say

Brooks.
Apr 20th, 2005, 01:24 AM
:lol:
Dont know which Maria youve been watching :scratch: ;)
Maria can hit as clean and accurate a winner as anyone going around..

like i said she hits a lot of winners no doubt.......but i just never watched her been like omg!!! that is amazing!....i mean she brings nothing new to the table i guess...its like when simon says on american idol that a performance was good but it didnt amaze me or anthing.....maria is a good hamburger and a serena is a steak :tape: :lol:

Gowza
Apr 20th, 2005, 01:27 AM
it's hard to say whether she will or will not dominate, she's still only 18, and already one of the best players in the world, depends on whether she develops her game futher and if she does how it actually develops. imo she isnt quite the athlete of players like serena and venus but she has good enough movement and can come to net and her serve and groundies are very effective. she keeps improving every year, she is yet to have a let down year after a breakthrough which we are use to seeing from the young up and comers that breakthrough. 2006 is only next year so i dont know if she can dominate however if she keeps improving each year like shew has done so then the possibility is there, i certainly didnt expect her to be doing so well so consistently at the age she is now.

Gowza
Apr 20th, 2005, 01:31 AM
like i said she hits a lot of winners no doubt.......but i just never watched her been like omg!!! that is amazing!....i mean she brings nothing new to the table i guess...its like when simon says on american idol that a performance was good but it didnt amaze me or anthing.....maria is a good hamburger and a serena is a steak :tape: :lol:

probably because serena is a flashy player and maria is not, generally flashy players are more exciting to watch and do get those sort of reactions out of an audience but it isnt to say that a player cant be a great player if they dont have a flashy game.

!<blocparty>!
Apr 20th, 2005, 07:18 AM
serena wasn't at her peak at 01' us open...she lost to venus in straight sets in the final ;)

*sigh*

It's really not getting through. Serena played one of the tournaments of her life up until the final (much like Wimbledon 2000. semis) Then she fell to Venus, who was also in the form of her life. That plus the mental block (dare I say mental block?:unsure: ) lost her the final :)

Serena hit 100% first serves in the second and about 80% overall to slaughter Hingis in the best female performance EVER just after that Lindsay match.

le bon vivant
Apr 20th, 2005, 07:31 AM
*sigh*

It's really not getting through. Serena played one of the tournaments of her life up until the final (much like Wimbledon 2000. semis) Then she fell to Venus, who was also in the form of her life. That plus the mental block (dare I say mental block?:unsure: ) lost her the final :)

Serena hit 100% first serves in the second and about 80% overall to slaughter Hingis in the best female performance EVER just after that Lindsay match.

True, but Peak Serena would have won that second set tiebreak. The key to Peak Serena's era of dominance is not her game, but her mental strength. So peak Serena began at Scottsdale 2002 and lasted until Wimbledon 2003. Just because Serena had a good run at the USO 2001 doesnt make that her peak, thats like saying peak Lindsay was at JP Morgan Chase because she walloped Serena there and beat Venus (albeit in an injury retirement) in the Semifinals.

And Serena did not play the tournament of her life at the USO 2001, losing a set to Anca Barna in the 1st round? And obviously struggling against Lindsay in the QF. She had 1 good match - against Hingis in the SF.

Plus, a very green 21-ranked Serena Williams beat peak Lindsay (World #2, current US Open champion) 6-4, 6-2 at Indian Wells in 1999.

As much as you'd like to think otherwise, Peak Serena beats Lindsay routinely. And in straight sets.

!<blocparty>!
Apr 20th, 2005, 07:42 AM
True, but Peak Serena would have won that second set tiebreak. The key to Peak Serena's era of dominance is not her game, but her mental strength. So peak Serena began at Scottsdale 2002 and lasted until Wimbledon 2003. Just because Serena had a good run at the USO 2001 doesnt make that her peak, thats like saying peak Lindsay was at JP Morgan Chase because she walloped Serena there and beat Venus (albeit in an injury retirement) in the Semifinals.

And Serena did not play the tournament of her life at the USO 2001, losing a set to Anca Barna in the 1st round? And obviously struggling against Lindsay in the QF. She had 1 good match - against Hingis in the SF.

Plus, a very green 21-ranked Serena Williams beat peak Lindsay (World #2, current US Open champion) 6-4, 6-2 at Indian Wells in 1999.

As much as you'd like to think otherwise, Peak Serena beats Lindsay routinely. And in straight sets.


:retard: another sigh. :awww:

Players don't peak for months and months during every single match. The peak that I'm talking about, thats totally correct to call it a "peak", is during the course of a single match. Of course you can play your best tennis for one tournament or match and drop off at the next whatever.

I did not say Serena played the tournament of her life.

Peak Serena would have beaten Lindsay in that tiebreak? Shut the hell up :rolleyes: Lindsay hit a great backhand winner down the line on a match point saved and began the tiebreaker with like 4 winners.

le bon vivant
Apr 20th, 2005, 07:54 AM
:retard: another sigh. :awww:

Players don't peak for months and months during every single match. The peak that I'm talking about, thats totally correct to call it a "peak", is during the course of a single match. Of course you can play your best tennis for one tournament or match and drop off at the next whatever.


I did not say Serena played the tournament of her life.

Serena played one of the tournaments of her life up until the final.

So what the hell are you saying, Serena peaked in a match that went 6-3, 6-7(7), 7-5 against a player whos ass she had kicked comprehensively since she began playing on tour? A player shed beaten 6 months earlier 6-1, 6-2 at Indian Wells, who was #2 in the world at the time? :retard:

You want to be comforted by the nonsensical assumption that Lindsay actually challenges Serena at her peak? :awww: I'll stop now, so that I wont take that delusion away from you. :wavey:

squash
Apr 20th, 2005, 08:31 AM
Maria would have to be able to volley, and add lots more shot to her game before she can dominate in 2006.

Plus, if Serena, Kim, Justine, Molik, ect. stay healthy Maria will not be able to dominate. I think we may have a different person winning each Grand Slam this year.

This would be great for wta tennis!

!<blocparty>!
Apr 20th, 2005, 11:33 AM
So what the hell are you saying, Serena peaked in a match that went 6-3, 6-7(7), 7-5 against a player whos ass she had kicked comprehensively since she began playing on tour? A player shed beaten 6 months earlier 6-1, 6-2 at Indian Wells, who was #2 in the world at the time? :retard:

You want to be comforted by the nonsensical assumption that Lindsay actually challenges Serena at her peak? :awww: I'll stop now, so that I wont take that delusion away from you. :wavey:

Erm, yes. I don't think you've seen the match to be honest. Serena played amazing. You make Lindsay seem like a player ranked 50 with their head to head 10-0. Lindsay and Serena have had some very competitive matches. Just look back to the USO 2000, do you remember what happened there? wait a minute.....or, maybe in the leadup summer hardcourt event where there was a final set tiebreaker?

Davenport beat Maria 6-0 6-0 in Indian Wells, wait a minute.......she (maria) was the hottest player on tour :confused:

You didnt have much to say about the previous paragraph.

You really can't tell the different between

Originally Posted by !<bloc_party>!
I did not say Serena played the tournament of her life.



Quote:
Originally Posted by !<bloc_party>!
Serena played one of the tournaments of her life up until the final.

You're just making less sense in every post. I'm going to stop now, better things to be doing. Carry on if you must.

:wavey:

rikvanlooy
Apr 20th, 2005, 01:37 PM
r matcMaria would have to be able to volley, and add lots more shot to her game before she can dominate in 2006.

Plus, if Serena, Kim, Justine, Molik, ect. stay healthy Maria will not be able to dominate. I think we may have a different person winning each Grand Slam this year.

This would be great for wta tennis!

I have seen the three matches Maria played against Kim and I really don't see how she is going to beat Kim. She plays a lot like Davenport and we already know that Davenport gets a bit nervous if she sees that she is going to meet Kim in the latter stages of a tournament (a real whopper of an understatement, I don't think Davenport really thinks she is able to beat Kim any more).

I find it funny that a lot of fans of Maria claim that it was the wind that made the difference in their last match. Well, there are matches where the wind and the sun doesn't make a difference : it's called indoor. I wouldn't be that sure that Maria is going to beat the crap out of Kim during a indoor tournament. I only know one player that is able to do that and that is Venus in Antwerp (Venus wants that diamond racket !). Even Justine and Serena have a lot of problems beating Kim indoor.

Doc
Apr 20th, 2005, 01:52 PM
I have seen the three matches Maria played against Kim and I really don't see how she is going to beat Kim.
Two of those matches were played when Maria was just 16 and Kim was at peak. The last match was no overwhelming victory for Kim, and Maria wasn't even on top form.

She plays a lot like Davenport and we already know that Davenport gets a bit nervous if she sees that she is going to meet Kim in the latter stages of a tournament Maria moves a lot better than Davenport. :devil:
I find it funny that a lot of fans of Maria claim that it was the wind that made the difference in their last match. Well, there are matches where the wind and the sun doesn't make a difference : it's called indoor. I wouldn't be that sure that Maria is going to beat the crap out of Kim during a indoor tournament. .

If your game is based on accurate shot-making, you are going to be more affected by a 30 mph gusting wind.

DA FOREHAND
Apr 20th, 2005, 01:57 PM
like i said she hits a lot of winners no doubt.......but i just never watched her been like omg!!! that is amazing!....i mean she brings nothing new to the table i guess...its like when simon says on american idol that a performance was good but it didnt amaze me or anthing.....maria is a good hamburger and a serena is a steak :tape: :lol:


Exactly....the bar hasn't been raised from Serena's 02-03 performance, and Serena raised the bar from Steffi Graf

rikvanlooy
Apr 20th, 2005, 02:17 PM
Two of those matches were played when Maria was just 16 and Kim was at peak. The last match was no overwhelming victory for Kim, and Maria wasn't even on top form.

Maria moves a lot better than Davenport. :devil:


If your game is based on accurate shot-making, you are going to be more affected by a 30 mph gusting wind.

We will see.

I found it a very convincing win against Maria. Kim was clearly the better player.

And Kim has clearly a better backhand than Maria and is a lot more accurate with it than Maria. And on top Kim takes the ball a lot earlier than Maria.

One of the principal reasons Kim is that good when there is no wind, is that she can play that backhand close to the lines at an incredible pace. Almost nobody can cope with that and I really don't see that Maria has the speed of Serena or Venus.

Just have a look at the backhand winners during their last encounter and you will see that I am not lying (well, have a look at the match Kim played against Davenport - Kim had twice as much backhand winners as Davenport).

TrixieTrader
Apr 20th, 2005, 03:15 PM
I am not a Maria fan, but I think that she will continue to do well. I have to say it is commendable the level of work she continues to put in her Tennis. Domination will be tough given the Belgians are just as dedicated.

Not to say that Venus and Serena do not have the edge ability wise but right now, they are not putting in the off court work required. To show up at tournaments unfit and unpracticed will not get you the results plus you run the risk of injurying yourself.

andrewbroad
Apr 21st, 2005, 01:43 AM
Will Maria dominate in 2006? Absolutely!

Maria's talent is so phenomenal that she gets in a zone where she sees the ball in slow motion, and can hit winners at will. She has a lovely delay on her shots that make her opponents lean one way, then Maria hits a winner the other way. Her opponents are constantly off-balance, allowing Maria to dictate the rallies. She has an amazing serve, brilliant short angles, and seems to have a magnet to the sideline on that crosscourt backhand of hers. And her mental toughness and will to win are second only to Monica Seles.

A calendar-year Grand Slam in 2006 is a distinct possibility for Maria.

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
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http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/shara/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/shara/)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sizzlingsharapova/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sizzlingsharapova/)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/)

mboyle
Apr 21st, 2005, 01:54 AM
I would be hard pressed to believe that if Clijsters,Henin,Serena,Venus,Molik, and Mauresmo are all still on the tour in years to come that she will dominate all of them in the slams.

Boooo why the hell do we mention Molik and Venus and Momo in the same breath as the other three?:o Maria owns Molik and Venus, and will figure out Momo very shortly. She plays well against Serena, and I am confident that Serena's days of beating Maria are numbered, and that her best tennis days are behind her. Juju and Kimmie worry me, but Kimmie doesn't play well in GS finals yet. If she figures it out, then Juju, Kimmie and Masha will dominate the slams. If not, then Juju and Masha will (Serena winning a few more on pure talent and will power. I still think she has the best raw game, but she gets injured way too often, and makes too many errors.)

mboyle
Apr 21st, 2005, 01:58 AM
Maria doesn't hit any OMG shots, granted. So what? Serena hits as many good oh my god shots as bad oh my god shots. Just because Maria constructs points and doesn't go for winners out of position and off her back foot doesn't make her a worse player. She hits the ball more purely and hard shot for shot than Serena in 02/03. Her serve isn't quite as good, but it works just as well. Her movement is impressive, but not as good as Serena's. She's working on it. Only time will tell.

Brooks.
Apr 21st, 2005, 02:17 AM
Boooo why the hell do we mention Molik and Venus and Momo in the same breath as the other three?:o Maria owns Molik and Venus, and will figure out Momo very shortly. She plays well against Serena, and I am confident that Serena's days of beating Maria are numbered, and that her best tennis days are behind her. Juju and Kimmie worry me, but Kimmie doesn't play well in GS finals yet. If she figures it out, then Juju, Kimmie and Masha will dominate the slams. If not, then Juju and Masha will (Serena winning a few more on pure talent and will power. I still think she has the best raw game, but she gets injured way too often, and makes too many errors.)

i mention them because when they beat maria in slams.....it will prove my point that maria can't beat 3 or 4 good players back to back....she hasn't proven that she can do that yet....she's won 4 "real" tournaments beating one or two top 10 players at the most.......while momo certainly isnt going to be dominating the slams she has the talent and the variety to beat maria on most days....and molik has the game to do it as well.....the point is that until she beats venus,kuznetsova,serena,lindsay back to back at a slam....she hasnt prove she is gonna dominate

DA FOREHAND
Apr 21st, 2005, 03:22 PM
Will Maria dominate in 2006? Absolutely!

Maria's talent is so phenomenal that she gets in a zone where she sees the ball in slow motion, and can hit winners at will. She has a lovely delay on her shots that make her opponents lean one way, then Maria hits a winner the other way. Her opponents are constantly off-balance, allowing Maria to dictate the rallies. She has an amazing serve, brilliant short angles, and seems to have a magnet to the sideline on that crosscourt backhand of hers. And her mental toughness and will to win are second only to Monica Seles.

A calendar-year Grand Slam in 2006 is a distinct possibility for Maria.

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
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http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/shara/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/shara/)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sizzlingsharapova/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sizzlingsharapova/)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/)

How old are you ? you sound like an eight year old bragging about his baseball card collection....

To answer the thread.......HELL NAW !!

cheo23
Apr 21st, 2005, 04:35 PM
:retard:

Didn't Mashona get the crap beat out of her in that match?? She won like 1 or 2 games? :tape: I know you're not stupid enough to actually think that Maria's forehand and backhand, which btw are more dominant shots than the Williams sisters groundstrokes (which is why you see V&S running like hell against Maria, she pins them 10 feet behind the baseline), aren't "oh my god" shots (whatever that means, anyway). I also know you don't believe that Maria's serve, which is way better than Venus' and these days at least as good as Serena's, isn't an amazing, "oh my god" shot. More likely you're just bitter :sad: at the 2-4 record the sisters have recorded against a 17 year old girl who dictates from the first point to the last against them, and instead of recognizing all those crisp winners she belts over and over again, you just say "well that winner was GOOD but not AMAZING". :wavey: Which is funny, maybe we should tell Maria that all those winners she hits are some how inferior to the winners everyone else hits (and hits less often) :lol:
yes I agree with U...I Believe Maria OVerpowered Mashona Washington..6-0 6-1..SHE MUST HAve BEEN Sayin "OH MY GOD, ALOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In that MATCHuP...& MASHONA WASHINGTON comments on "OH MY GOD SHOTs" sounded like SOUR GRAPES...isn't MASHONA WASHINGTON STRUGGLIN TO WIN THESE DAYs???????????// YES, MARIA HITS GOod & AMAZIN WINNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!see WIMBLEDON 2004 FINAL against SERENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We'll SEE IF SHE CAN "DOMINATE"..GIVE HER TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember SERENA didn't WIN A GRAND SLAM 2 1/2 YEARS AFTER WINNIN HER 1st (US OPEN1999 the Next SLam comin in 2002 FRENCH OPEN!!!!!!!!!1
SOme People Just NEED to GET IT TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

le bon vivant
Apr 21st, 2005, 04:42 PM
:mad: :mad:

cheo23
Apr 21st, 2005, 04:45 PM
i mention them because when they beat maria in slams.....it will prove my point that maria can't beat 3 or 4 good players back to back....she hasn't proven that she can do that yet....she's won 4 "real" tournaments beating one or two top 10 players at the most.......while momo certainly isnt going to be dominating the slams she has the talent and the variety to beat maria on most days....and molik has the game to do it as well.....the point is that until she beats venus,kuznetsova,serena,lindsay back to back at a slam....she hasnt prove she is gonna dominate
Well LETS SEE For Example at YEC last YEAr..she DEFEATED VERA, Svetlana, Myskina & SERENA All Top 10 Players at that time & IN A "REALLY REALLY TOUGH TOURNAMENT" sounds to me like U're nOt GIVIN HER ENOUGH CREDIT..BY the Way..Maria LEADS H2H against ALICIA MOLIK..& she's defeated MIss ALICIA THIS year in a FINAL

SJW
Apr 21st, 2005, 05:53 PM
Maria doesn't hit any OMG shots, granted. So what? Serena hits as many good oh my god shots as bad oh my god shots. Just because Maria constructs points and doesn't go for winners out of position and off her back foot doesn't make her a worse player. She hits the ball more purely and hard shot for shot than Serena in 02/03. Her serve isn't quite as good, but it works just as well. Her movement is impressive, but not as good as Serena's. She's working on it. Only time will tell.

LOL i know they have shit tennis coverage in the US but this is ridiculous.

what makes Sharapova such an impressive player and so hard to beat is she'll try and hit a winner from everywhere. think you have Serena and Sharapova mixed up. Serena will go for the angles, the off paced balls then smack a winner. Sharapova likes to play "i'ma aim for a winner off every ball" and she's very good at it :).

hitting hard isn't everything btw. i can think of many examples.

SJW
Apr 21st, 2005, 05:55 PM
and I am confident that Serena's days of beating Maria are numbered, and that her best tennis days are behind her.

that's interesting because i swear Serena just won a slam in January, and beat Sharapova in their last match played :)

Knizzle
Apr 21st, 2005, 06:20 PM
Boooo why the hell do we mention Molik and Venus and Momo in the same breath as the other three?:o Maria owns Molik and Venus, and will figure out Momo very shortly. She plays well against Serena, and I am confident that Serena's days of beating Maria are numbered, and that her best tennis days are behind her. Juju and Kimmie worry me, but Kimmie doesn't play well in GS finals yet. If she figures it out, then Juju, Kimmie and Masha will dominate the slams. If not, then Juju and Masha will (Serena winning a few more on pure talent and will power. I still think she has the best raw game, but she gets injured way too often, and makes too many errors.)

2 wins over a player is hardly owning. :lol:

Serena's days of beating Maria are numbered?? That's a crock, if Serena gets her game back it will be Maria who will struggle to pull out a win against Serena. Do you know anything about WTA tennis??

Doc
Apr 21st, 2005, 06:41 PM
Serena scrapes out a lone win against Maria in the past year and some of her supporters start getting cocky and begin trash talking. :rolleyes:

Two words for you. "We'll see"

Serena already underestimated Maria twice.

random fan
Apr 21st, 2005, 06:43 PM
Serena scrapes out a lone win against Maria in the past year and some of her supporters start getting cocky and begin trash talking. :rolleyes:

Two words for you. "We'll see"

Serena already underestimated Maria twice.

no, not twice, doubt it, only once maybe at Wimby

SJW
Apr 21st, 2005, 07:08 PM
Serena scrapes out a lone win against Maria in the past year and some of her supporters start getting cocky and begin trash talking. :rolleyes:

Two words for you. "We'll see"

Serena already underestimated Maria twice.

mboyle wasnt underestimating Serena at all right? :o

Knizzle
Apr 21st, 2005, 07:11 PM
no, not twice, doubt it, only once maybe at Wimby

I don't think she did at Wimby, Serena was just nervous as all get out then.

Knizzle
Apr 21st, 2005, 07:13 PM
Serena scrapes out a lone win against Maria in the past year and some of her supporters start getting cocky and begin trash talking. :rolleyes:

Two words for you. "We'll see"

Serena already underestimated Maria twice.

Kinda like Maria scraped out a win over Serena at the YEC? This is the "overestimation" that I speak of as far as the Maria fans on this board not to mention the tennis commentators.

How exactly did Serena underestimate Maria?? Especially at the YEC??

Geisha
Apr 21st, 2005, 08:28 PM
I am a person who likes to think realistically. Maria is 18 now. She's gaining experience, but she hasn't played her best tennis this year. I mean, she played like crap leading up to the Australian Open SF- at Tokyo she played well, but not great. She won in Qatar, too. But, she was spanked by Lindsay and Kim in her last matches at Indian Wells and Miami.

Because of this, I think her inability to win those close matches at the biggest tournaments will hamper her play in the near future. I think in 2006 she will have a year, sort of like this:

Australian Open- F
Tokyo- F
Qatar- WON
Indian Wells- WON
Miami- SF
Berlin- WON
Rome- SF
French Open- QF
Wimbledon- F
San Diego- WON
Los Angeles- WON
Toronto- QF
US Open- SF
Switzerland- SF
Moscow- WON
Philadelphia- WON
Year-End Champs- WON

I don't think this will be her schedule, but I'm just saying. She will play incredible tennis, but lose some tough ones in the Slams to players who are hot and to players who have more experience. But, she will also win a bunch of tournaments- 6 to 9 and such. Sort of like a Martina Hingis in 2000.

Knizzle
Apr 21st, 2005, 08:33 PM
I am a person who likes to think realistically. Maria is 18 now. She's gaining experience, but she hasn't played her best tennis this year. I mean, she played like crap leading up to the Australian Open SF- at Tokyo she played well, but not great. She won in Qatar, too. But, she was spanked by Lindsay and Kim in her last matches at Indian Wells and Miami.

Because of this, I think her inability to win those close matches at the biggest tournaments will hamper her play in the near future. I think in 2006 she will have a year, sort of like this:

Australian Open- F
Tokyo- F
Qatar- WON
Indian Wells- WON
Miami- SF
Berlin- WON
Rome- SF
French Open- QF
Wimbledon- F
San Diego- WON
Los Angeles- WON
Toronto- QF
US Open- SF
Switzerland- SF
Moscow- WON
Philadelphia- WON
Year-End Champs- WON

I don't think this will be her schedule, but I'm just saying. She will play incredible tennis, but lose some tough ones in the Slams to players who are hot and to players who have more experience. But, she will also win a bunch of tournaments- 6 to 9 and such. Sort of like a Martina Hingis in 2000.

Those kinds of years suck, Venus had one in 2002. Close but no slam cigar. Great year in perspective though.

WIMBLY2004
Apr 21st, 2005, 10:10 PM
Because of this, I think her inability to win those close matches at the biggest tournaments will hamper her play in the near future.

Maria has lost in only one close match so far, and you are already writing off her ability to win in those situations? :rolleyes:

chitchat
Apr 21st, 2005, 10:41 PM
like i said she hits a lot of winners no doubt.......but i just never watched her been like omg!!! that is amazing!....i mean she brings nothing new to the table i guess...its like when simon says on american idol that a performance was good but it didnt amaze me or anthing.....maria is a good hamburger and a serena is a steak :tape: :lol:

weird, I always had the same feeling about Serena :p
The only thing that I find amazing is how her strong will coupled to her sheer physical strength (killer cocktail) do wonders for her.
I actually think that Sharapova and Serena are quite similar whether it's their type of play or set of mind (with a slight edge to Serena due to her serve and experience)
IMO Venus is more of a OMG amazing shot type of player than her sister or Maria,
unfortunately she hasn't deliver much lately :tape:

Back to topic: it's way too early to forecast what Maria can achieve in 2006 (specially with the Belgians return) but like so many posters said, I don't think there will be 1 dominant player in the near future