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davidmario
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:30 PM
:bounce: It's so exotic :D
Istanbul Cup :eek:
French Open
Wimbledon
Stanford
Stockholm :eek:
Toronto :eek:
US Open
China Open :eek:
Filderstadt :eek: :hearts:
Moscow
Zurich
Philadelphia

For details: Venus' Schedule (http://www.venuswilliams.com/events/default.sps?iCategoryID=0&sEventsMonth=1&sEventsYear=2005&sEventsToMonth=12&sEventsToYear=2005)

WOW. She has a full Schedule. And all eeks stand for a new tournament or one she hadn't played for a while ;)

Istanbul will be a great preparation for the French. :)

VeeReeDavJCap81
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:39 PM
Has Venus ever played 20 tournies in one year?? She really wants to be back on top. Good for her I say. Just wondering why LA, San Diego, and New Haven are missing from her schedule. Interesting though, that's she's playing Toronto and Beijing.

davidmario
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:40 PM
Hopefully she'll stay healthy.

Havok
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:41 PM
I highly doubt she makes the trip to Toronto. She NEVER came to Canada ever in her career, and I think she'll follow suit yet again. Wasn't she expected to come a year or two ago, but didn't end up coming?

Justeenium
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:42 PM
why the hell is she playing stockholm?

Is that schedule right? it seems fishy

Brooks.
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:45 PM
why the hell is she playing stockholm?

Is that schedule right? it seems fishy

she needs the confidence.............she obviously is slumping right now......and she is trying to fix the problem.....the more matches she can win the better :D

davidmario
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:45 PM
I highly doubt she makes the trip to Toronto. She NEVER came to Canada ever in her career, and I think she'll follow suit yet again. Wasn't she expected to come a year or two ago, but didn't end up coming?
No. In 2003 she was injured and last year, she played other tournaments. ;)

UDiTY
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:45 PM
Is she really not playing Berlin, San Diego or New Haven!?!?:confused:

Those are some of Vee's favorite tournaments!

And she needs to defend her Berlin points if she wants a top 8 seeding at the FO!:fiery:

Venus_Serena
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:48 PM
I highly doubt she makes the trip to Toronto. She NEVER came to Canada ever in her career, and I think she'll follow suit yet again. Wasn't she expected to come a year or two ago, but didn't end up coming?

Venus came in Toronto in 1997 but lost to Nathalie Dechy in the first round
1-6 6-1 1-6

:)

Wojtek
Apr 16th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Stockholm :eek: :eek:

SelesFan70
Apr 16th, 2005, 10:04 PM
:o

Tennis-Exhausted Venus likely to skip French Open warm-ups

Thu Apr 14, 4:42 PM ET

By Simon Cambers

CHARLESTON, South Carolina, April 14 (Reuters) - A mentally and physically exhausted Venus Williams is likely to skip the traditional European claycourt warm-up tournaments in order to be fully prepared for this year's French Open.



The American, whose defence of her Family Circle Cup title ended on Thursday with a 7-5 6-4 defeat by 17-year-old French girl Tatiana Golovin, traditionally plays in at least one event before arriving in Paris.


But the 24-year-old said on Thursday the effort of playing three back-to-back tournaments had left her drained.


"I just think that mentally and physically I may have just lost it," said Williams, who competed in Miami and Amelia Island before Charleston.


"I just think I'm having a mental letdown from all the tennis I've been playing in the last four weeks. It's very hard to play all these weeks in a row, mentally."


The former world number one, whose ranking has slipped to number eight, was unsure exactly what her commitments would be.


"I'm playing Fed Cup (April 23-24), so a lot more training, not really time for a break yet and then that's about it until the French Open," she said.

Wiggly
Apr 16th, 2005, 10:14 PM
Toronto :)

Havok
Apr 16th, 2005, 10:20 PM
Venus came in Toronto in 1997 but lost to Nathalie Dechy in the first round
1-6 6-1 1-6

:)
Ack, did not know this. But looking at the year, no wonder I didn't remember it.:p Thanks anwyays.

LUIS9
Apr 16th, 2005, 10:26 PM
I dont know or think that dropping those big tournies she was so successful in past would do her any good? Let me elaborate on this, I mean shes won Sandiego like 4 times hasnt she? Certainly three, shes won New Heaven(Pilot Pen) 4 times consecutively wasnt it? Now my logic, certainly from following tennis over the past 6 or 7 yrs tells me players usually continue going to tournies where they've been successful in the past and usually they continue that success throughout their careers. For example Hingis always played Tokyo the tier 1, she always played sydney and Filderstadt and she always did very well in these tournies right up to her decline and pre-retirement from tour, the same goes for Federer, he keeps coming to Dubai which he has won 3 straight times now as well as Hamburg and many others.

To me it seems a bit illogical that she would drop these tournies because anyways the fact that shes done so well in these tournies would give bring her back those memories of success and make her realize that she has done so well before and give her the confidence to repeat on those past successes?

starr
Apr 16th, 2005, 11:00 PM
I think appearance fees have more to do with her posted schedule than anything else.

Other players on the tour must be having a laugh at this quote: "I just think I'm having a mental letdown from all the tennis I've been playing in the last four weeks. It's very hard to play all these weeks in a row, mentally."

She played what? 4 matches at Miami, and 2 each at the clay tournaments? That's not very much tennis at all. Maybe it was filming the "reality" program the 10 days before the tournament that added to the mental exhaustion.

Also she had about two weeks to rest before Berlin so there was plenty time to regroup.

But, if she wants to play in Turkey -- which is a really nice place -- rather then Berlin, that's ok with me.

Paldias
Apr 16th, 2005, 11:18 PM
I highly doubt she makes the trip to Toronto. She NEVER came to Canada ever in her career, and I think she'll follow suit yet again. Wasn't she expected to come a year or two ago, but didn't end up coming?

She was supposed to come in 2003 but that was when she had her abdominal injury and pulled out of everything.

On another note, now that Venus is in the Rogers Cup I'm gonna go purchase my tickets! :D

LUIS9
Apr 16th, 2005, 11:22 PM
I think appearance fees have more to do with her posted schedule than anything else.

Other players on the tour must be having a laugh at this quote: "I just think I'm having a mental letdown from all the tennis I've been playing in the last four weeks. It's very hard to play all these weeks in a row, mentally."

She played what? 4 matches at Miami, and 2 each at the clay tournaments? That's not very much tennis at all. Maybe it was filming the "reality" program the 10 days before the tournament that added to the mental exhaustion.

Also she had about two weeks to rest before Berlin so there was plenty time to regroup.

But, if she wants to play in Turkey -- which is a really nice place -- rather then Berlin, that's ok with me.


Yeah I guess that kind of makes sense, besides I think or believe she loves world cultures so Turkey would certainly provide her with a myriad of architectural and artistic marvels, its such an awesome place hopefully one day I can visit Istambul, ever since I saw the constantinople dome in geography class I've been dying to visit this place.

sebbe
Apr 16th, 2005, 11:33 PM
wow really cool if venus is coming to stockholm, nice chance for me to see her....
I never thought that a top player like venus would come to sweden....

I really hope

K-Dog
Apr 16th, 2005, 11:56 PM
If Venus is going to Turkey, then I am wondering about her. She hasn't played a tier 3 in a long time. The only player that can beat her there is Petrova, which if form holds, Venus should win. "If and only if" (boy geometry is coming back to me now) Venus wins in Turkey, she will do well in RG. If she loses, Venus is toast for the French and Wimbeldon.

Is Stockholm on hard or clay? Venus needs to play the US Open series, not Stockholm. She has lots of points to defend in LA, and I wish she would go back to New Haven. Last years draw was ripe for the picking. I'm alittle shocked to see her play A LOT after the US Open. She usually hates doing that.

Venus maybe is learing from Maria that by playing tier 3's, that winning is more important to the confidence, than playing tier 1's and losing. If that works, than smart thinking Vee. Otherwise Venus might as well retire or accept the fact that her game isn't good enough anymore. Maria, Lindsay, and Amelie are better than her (and also a healthy and calm Serena). Not to mention that young players like Tatiana, Nicole, Ivanovic, perphaps Krajiceck, and perphaps Kirilenko are players on the rise that could beat her. I think that Venus is at least number 5 or 6 in the world based off her game, but not even in the top 50 in confidence. She is better than Sveta, Myskina, and perphaps Dementieva, but her confidence isn't even near the top 5. Back in 2000-2001, her confidence was no.1, no matter what. Now, I think bottling up her emotions is bad for her. She needs to let the pain, anger, and depression out to someone. This isn't healthy for her. Her game is SO MUCH better than that!

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Just found out that Venus is not playing in Stockholm....she has committed to Los Angeles.......jp morgan chase open

http://www.jpmorganchaseopen.com/event_info_players.asp

so I don't really know if you can believe that much in that schedule...

Geisha
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:09 AM
:bounce: It's so exotic :D
Istanbul Cup :eek:
French Open
Wimbledon
Stanford
Stockholm :eek:
Toronto :eek:
US Open
China Open :eek:
Filderstadt :eek: :hearts:
Moscow
Zurich
Philadelphia


There are many reasons why I don't like this schedule.

1. One red clay warm-up, and it isn't even renown. Venus is going to have a hard time at the French Open if Istanbul isn't good to her. If she gets injured, chances are she won't play the French or she won't be fully fit...Knock on wood.

2. Stokholm?! Isn't that a claycourt? Can we say Myskina?

3. San Diego and New Haven are missing? She's played her best tennis there.

4. Five tournaments after the US Open? Does she want to break her legs before the Year-End Championships?

By the way, she is only playing 18 events, not 20. She did this in 1999.

If I were Venus, I would do it like this:

Warsaw
French Open
Wimbledon
San Diego
Toronto
New Haven
US Open
Moscow
Zurich
Philadelphia

Geisha
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:09 AM
Just found out that Venus is not playing in Stockholm....she has committed to Los Angeles.......jp morgan chase open

http://www.jpmorganchaseopen.com/event_info_players.asp

so I don't really know if you can believe that much in that schedule...

It's from her website.

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:10 AM
stockholm is not claycourt.... hardcourt

Geisha
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:10 AM
stockholm is not claycourt.... hardcourt

Are you sure?

skanky~skanketta
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:11 AM
she's not playing the USO american warmups?

and isn't stockholm a tier 4?

K-Dog
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:11 AM
Just found out that Venus is not playing in Stockholm....she has committed to Los Angeles.......jp morgan chase open

http://www.jpmorganchaseopen.com/event_info_players.asp

so I don't really know if you can believe that much in that schedule...

That was last year's site. Venus is playing Stockholm.

K-Dog
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:13 AM
Are you sure?


Yes it is hardcourt. Alicia is the defending champ there.

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:14 AM
It's from her website.


yeah I know but obviously there are some faults in it...

Geisha
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:14 AM
Venus maybe is learing from Maria that by playing tier 3's, that winning is more important to the confidence, than playing tier 1's and losing. If that works, than smart thinking Vee. Otherwise Venus might as well retire or accept the fact that her game isn't good enough anymore. Maria, Lindsay, and Amelie are better than her (and also a healthy and calm Serena). Not to mention that young players like Tatiana, Nicole, Ivanovic, perphaps Krajiceck, and perphaps Kirilenko are players on the rise that could beat her. I think that Venus is at least number 5 or 6 in the world based off her game, but not even in the top 50 in confidence. She is better than Sveta, Myskina, and perphaps Dementieva, but her confidence isn't even near the top 5. Back in 2000-2001, her confidence was no.1, no matter what. Now, I think bottling up her emotions is bad for her. She needs to let the pain, anger, and depression out to someone. This isn't healthy for her. Her game is SO MUCH better than that!

Although I hate people talking bad about the Queen, I think this post is spot no. I mean, Maria played like a stronza (sp.) after she won Wimbledon. Terrible US Open, losses to Mashona Washington, Myskina, Zvonareva, Kuznetsova, etc., but she played those Asian tournaments, won them, and now look where she is. It is almost like Anna Kournikova. She shouldn't have played what the top players were playing because she never won. She should have played smaller events to get her confidence up and the results will come.

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:15 AM
Are you sure?


yes of course...I was there last year

JonBcn
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:16 AM
If Venus plays Stanford, Stockholm (a Tier IV, by the way) and Toronto in that order, I'll eat my hat.

Geisha
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:17 AM
yes of course...I was there last year

What did Myskina play last year? Was it Sopot?

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:17 AM
but venus is not playing stockholm...she has committed to jp morgan chase open the same week... I mean she can't be in two places at one time

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:18 AM
What did Myskina play last year? Was it Sopot?

I have no idea, not stockholm

K-Dog
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Although I hate people talking bad about the Queen, I think this post is spot no. I mean, Maria played like a stronza (sp.) after she won Wimbledon. Terrible US Open, losses to Mashona Washington, Myskina, Zvonareva, Kuznetsova, etc., but she played those Asian tournaments, won them, and now look where she is. It is almost like Anna Kournikova. She shouldn't have played what the top players were playing because she never won. She should have played smaller events to get her confidence up and the results will come.


I wasn't talking bad about Vee, look at my avatar. I am being realistic. I am a tennis player myself, I know what it is like out there. Thanks for agreeing with me though!

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:24 AM
What did Myskina play last year? Was it Sopot?

It was Sopot.


SOPOT See all SOPOT Results for MYSKINA
WTA, TIER III, POLAND, August 14, 2004, $300,000, CLAY (O)
Draw: 32M/32Q/16D, Rank: 3, Seed/Entry: 1

Rnd Opponent Rank W/L Score
R32 BYE
R16 ONDRASKOVA, ZUZANA CZE 120 W 6-2 6-2
Q (5) BENESOVA, IVETA CZE 52 W 6-3 6-4
S (11) KOUKALOVA, KLARA CZE 71 L W/O
WTA Championship Pts: 78 WTA Ranking Pts.: 78

davidmario
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:34 AM
but venus is not playing stockholm...she has committed to jp morgan chase open the same week... I mean she can't be in two places at one time :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Dude, SHE HAS NOT COMMITTED TO PLAY JP MORGAN CHASE OPEN! The link you gave us WAS FROM LAST YEAR!
Do you get it?

alexusjonesfan
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:40 AM
That's bizarre. She'll play Stanford, then skip the tourneys she's done well in in the past to fly all the way to Sweden for a Tier 3 and then come back to Toronto a couple weeks before the Open? :scratch: And I've never ever seen her play so many indoor tournies, she hates the stuff (except for Antwerp of course). Is the WTA forcing her into these weird decisions? you know gold exempt rules and blah blah

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:42 AM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Dude, SHE HAS NOT COMMITTED TO PLAY JP MORGAN CHASE OPEN! The link you gave us WAS FROM LAST YEAR!
Do you get it?


Sorry I don't because look at the frontpage...it says august 8-14, 2005

and three names serena williams, venus williams and lindsay davenport...
I mean it would be unlawful to write her name if she hasn't committed...

Or am I totally wrong??

CJ07
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:43 AM
This worries me. Venus is doing the wrong thing. She needs to go back to playing 12-13 tournaments, THAT IS IT!!!

Venus played so little because she was expecting to win 75% of them, which she did most of the time. She had ample time to prepare, stay healthy, and pursue other interests.

No good can come out of this schedule, because she WILL NOT HAVE BETTER RESULTS. Even if she did, her body would fall apart and get injured. It's a lose-lose situation.

She needs to sit down, watch some tapes, and play once or twice a month and be done with it. If I were her, she should do this schedule

Warsaw
FO
Wimbledon
Stanford
SD
New Haven
Us Open
Philly
Championships

THAT IS IT

Tennisaddict
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:43 AM
I so hope that this schedule is going to help Venus to find her confidence again so she can get it all together mentally. It's really hard to see her struggle like this, as her game is so much better than most players that she's losing to :sad:.

She should have won at least two titles by now Antwerp and Amelia Island. Her game is really coming back to her but her self-belief has to come back to. She can play a Tier V for all I care if that's going to give her the much needed boost. Anything that can get her out of this dilemma is welcome.

Come on Venus, I still believe that you will win Roland Garros :bounce:.

davidmario
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:48 AM
Sorry I don't because look at the frontpage...it says august 8-14, 2005

and three names serena williams, venus williams and lindsay davenport...
I mean it would be unlawful to write her name if she hasn't committed...

Or am I totally wrong??
Yes you are totally wrong. Here's an extract: "As you may recall, in LAST YEAR'S FINAL, Kim Clijsters defeated Lindsay Davenport."
The final between Clijsters and Davenport was in 2003. So this info is from last year. ;)

K-Dog
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:50 AM
This worries me. Venus is doing the wrong thing. She needs to go back to playing 12-13 tournaments, THAT IS IT!!!

Venus played so little because she was expecting to win 75% of them, which she did most of the time. She had ample time to prepare, stay healthy, and pursue other interests.

No good can come out of this schedule, because she WILL NOT HAVE BETTER RESULTS. Even if she did, her body would fall apart and get injured. It's a lose-lose situation.

She needs to sit down, watch some tapes, and play once or twice a month and be done with it. If I were her, she should do this schedule

Warsaw
FO
Wimbledon
Stanford
SD
New Haven
Us Open
Philly
Championships

THAT IS IT

As much as I have to admit it, I think you are right. Ever since Venus as tried to change things up, things haven't worked. Maybe the old way was the better way. I don't know, but Venus' loses don't even affect me anymore. They used to devistate me, now when Venus or even Serena loses, I really don't care that much.

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:52 AM
Yes you are totally wrong. Here's an extract: "As you may recall, in LAST YEAR'S FINAL, Kim Clijsters defeated Lindsay Davenport."
The final between Clijsters and Davenport was in 2003. So this info is from last year. ;)


I don't mean that frontpage :) ....

http://www.jpmorganchaseopen.com/home.asp

davidmario
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:52 AM
I think Venus knows best whats good for her ;)

davidmario
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:54 AM
I don't mean that frontpage :) ....

http://www.jpmorganchaseopen.com/home.asp
I think Venus homepage is right.

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:56 AM
I think Venus homepage is right.


I really hope it is :D

but i'm just a little bit sceptical....

Jericho
Apr 17th, 2005, 01:20 AM
i hope vee knows what shes doing cuz i dont :confused:

UDiTY
Apr 17th, 2005, 01:28 AM
i hope vee knows what shes doing cuz i dont :confused:
I don't either!

Losing her Warsaw and her Berlin points to play fed cup and that's it b4 the French. That doesn't really give her too much if you ask me. What willher ranking be after that?!

She'll prolly face a top 4 seed in the round of 16 again:rolleyes:

mboyle
Apr 17th, 2005, 02:11 AM
There is 0 chance that Venus will fly from San Francisco to Europe for just one week and then back the next week to Toronto. Not even possible.

Chunchun
Apr 17th, 2005, 02:21 AM
OMG Venus is coming to Beijing!! :woohooL:

Leo_DFP
Apr 17th, 2005, 02:37 AM
I don't see her actually going to Stockholm.

Bizarre, inexplicable schedulnig indeed.

Geisha
Apr 17th, 2005, 04:41 AM
Venus should be playing 12-16 tournaments a year, like in 2000-2002, but remember, she hasn't had the results to make it to the YEC recently. She'll probably need those extra tournaments to give her some points.

Leo_DFP
Apr 17th, 2005, 04:44 AM
She should have won at least two titles by now Antwerp and Amelia Island. Her game is really coming back to her but her self-belief has to come back to. She can play a Tier V for all I care if that's going to give her the much needed boost. Anything that can get her out of this dilemma is welcome.

How should she have won AI? She creamed Davenport in the first set of their QF but couldn't keep it up. Davenport clearly played better in the final two sets. Even if she won that, you can't assume she would have won the tournament.

tenn_ace
Apr 17th, 2005, 04:59 AM
Is she really not playing Berlin, San Diego or New Haven!?!?:confused:

Those are some of Vee's favorite tournaments!

And she needs to defend her Berlin points if she wants a top 8 seeding at the FO!:fiery:


she always plays New haven

CJ07
Apr 17th, 2005, 05:04 AM
I think Venus gets bored easily. She hasn't scheduled to play New Haven since 2002...I think she likes to travel to new places and change Venues often.

iWill
Apr 17th, 2005, 06:53 AM
I hope Venus does something better than she did last year. I think she is playing Stocholm (if she is) for a confidence booster which she desperatley needs, BUT she also needs to defend her points from the US Open Series. AND if she does poorly at the FO and Wimbledon I think her schedule will prolly change but if she gets deep into the Wimbledon tourney which she should then her ranking will go way up considering she only got to the 2R so looks like we'll all be sitting on the edge of our seats at least until after the FO i know i will

TF Chipmunk
Apr 17th, 2005, 08:07 AM
This is Venus taking a gamble. This schedule is going to make or break her. She's either going to get overly exhausted and have an injury again...or she's going to do well in those tournaments and gain lots of confidence. You guys really can't blame her for trying to do everything she can to try and get her confidence up. Venus has tons of talent, but it's not in her head right now...Hopefully she'll do well in those tournaments, and she'll be a lot more secure with the way her game is going. It sure was fun seeing the Williams Sisters vs. the Belgians all the time :) Hopefully they can all regain/keep their good forms and next year would be such a fun fun year to watch tennis!

Nemesis
Apr 17th, 2005, 09:14 AM
I guess Venus had these places on her list to go on holiday once: Sweden, Turkey, Beijing ;) And when there are tourneys there, it's handy :cool: The same old towns countries she's done before and visited all she could, I think it gets boring when you have her interests next to tennis ...

Now I love Vee and her history/fashion/art/holiday interest. One of the reasons why she's my fav :hearts: But doing those tournaments (maybe except for Beijing which I think more players should play except the Japanese maybe for the moment :o ) is a bit too much. Hope her health doesn't suffer from her hobbies ... But I still love her to pieces :kiss:

But yeah ... We gotta be carefull. Those tournament sites do everything to sell tickets.

TomTennis
Apr 17th, 2005, 09:42 AM
Everyone..please. Venus knows what she is doing.

This is fab. Some new events and some great points to be earned.

I dont see why everyone wants Venus to play the same old same old???...that being Warsaw, San Diego, New Haven...etc etc.

Obvioulsy that hasnt been working! Im sooo looking forward to Venus play in all of these events. HOpefully she can stay injury free and pick up a heck load of points and titles on the way to world number 1!!!

Tenisci
Apr 17th, 2005, 10:06 AM
venus said that she is really so excited due to being in Istanbul :)

LUIS9
Apr 17th, 2005, 10:29 AM
Everyone..please. Venus knows what she is doing.

This is fab. Some new events and some great points to be earned.

I dont see why everyone wants Venus to play the same old same old???...that being Warsaw, San Diego, New Haven...etc etc.

Obvioulsy that hasnt been working! Im sooo looking forward to Venus play in all of these events. HOpefully she can stay injury free and pick up a heck load of points and titles on the way to world number 1!!!

Ok I agree with most of the post, however great points are you serious? Tier 3 are you sure you read the names of these tournies? Tier 3's at maximum give you like 100 pnts for winning the whole thing, making a quarterfinal of a Tier 1 wins that or even a few more points. I mean its great shes going to Istanbul that I understand but dumping Sandiego and New Heaven I really dont get. I mean The Stockholm philharmonic is great but I dont think shel have the time during the tournie to go to a great concert or two, barring she should win her matches in under an hour.

hingis-seles
Apr 17th, 2005, 11:48 AM
If Venus is participating in Istanbul, I will definitely fly out to see her (even though it is something like a 4-5 hour flight!)....I still haven't seen the Williamses play in person and having an opportunity to watch Venus play will be cool. :)

Tennisaddict
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:09 PM
How should she have won AI? She creamed Davenport in the first set of their QF but couldn't keep it up. Davenport clearly played better in the final two sets. Even if she won that, you can't assume she would have won the tournament.

I can assume that because the match with Davenport was on Venus' racket, she had many breakpoints but didn't convert, because everytime she created a breakpoint she started thinking about the fact that she was about to beat Davenport, and that messed her up eventually.

I do think that if she just had played her game without any restraint that she would have won the tournament, the first set against Davvy proves that,
and I don't see Petrova and Farina Elia as a real threat to Venus.

Junex
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:47 PM
Has Venus ever played 20 tournies in one year?? She really wants to be back on top. Good for her I say. Just wondering why LA, San Diego, and New Haven are missing from her schedule. Interesting though, that's she's playing Toronto and Beijing.


I am sure her entering Beijing has something to do with Serena.

Remember, win Serena won the Beijing tournament, during her interview, she promised the beijing crowd that next year she will bring her sister to play the tournament because she says she had a lot of fun there.

So i guess that is the reason.

V-MAC
Apr 17th, 2005, 02:35 PM
Well Venus did say after her loss to Tati in Charleston that her schedule this year has been pretty messed up. However, I think it would be good for Venus to "do a Maria" and play a few tier III tournaments to build up her confidence. ranking points doesn't really matter for Venus as once she is confident, she can win anything. :bounce:

416_Man
Apr 17th, 2005, 04:29 PM
I really like her schedule- she's trying to get to places she hasn't, which last year often didn't yield the best fields. If you look at the schedule- it appears as those she's avoiding Lindsay, by playing Canada and Stockholm and avoiding the California's and New Haven. She needs a refresher and this schedule is best.

Yonge
Apr 17th, 2005, 05:45 PM
Venus is welcome here in Toronto of course, but I think our friends in New Haven aren't very happy to hear about this :p

icequeen
Apr 17th, 2005, 05:46 PM
I really like her schedule- she's trying to get to places she hasn't, which last year often didn't yield the best fields. If you look at the schedule- it appears as those she's avoiding Lindsay, by playing Canada and Stockholm and avoiding the California's and New Haven. She needs a refresher and this schedule is best.


FYI Venus is not avoiding anyone she's just changing up her schedule and while doing so visiting countries she has never visited before..the woman is a world traveler. I would say smart on her.

Melly Flew Us
Apr 17th, 2005, 07:21 PM
may 16-22 asia/europe
may 23 - jun 6 europe
jun 20 - jul 3 europe
jul 25 - aug 2 americas
aug 8-14 europe
aug 15-21 americas
aug 29 - sep 10 americas
sep 19-25 asia
oct 3-9 europe
oct 10-16 europe/asia
oct 17-23 europe
oct 31 - nov 6 americas

only seems credible if she hangs around on each continent.
beijing doesn't seem likely, stockholm even less so.
but you never know.

VeNuS#1LoVa
Apr 17th, 2005, 08:17 PM
I think it's funny how she claims she tired when she only plays like two matches per tournament, when she used to play 5 each week she played, kinda interesting.

Anyways, Venus I'm glad to see you with a full schedule, tells me you're trying to be serious, I hope...So stay healthy, keep that forehand in check, and come back, I miss you...

Win Wimby... :wavey:

PaulieM
Apr 17th, 2005, 08:27 PM
all i can say is that i wish her all the best, and i hope this turns out to be a good decision. :hug:

416_Man
Apr 17th, 2005, 08:34 PM
FYI Venus is not avoiding anyone she's just changing up her schedule and while doing so visiting countries she has never visited before..the woman is a world traveler. I would say smart on her.

I think she is avoiding Lindsay. As of late she's been struggling against her and somehow they often have met eachother in their earlier rounds lately. Look at Venus' summer schedule, other than Stanford and New York, she's chosen areas which Lindsay wouldn't play (Stockholm and Canada). I think she's smart to choose these events, because her game lately has been less than best and she needs new locations to spark that competition within her.

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 08:39 PM
I still don't believe that Venus is going to play in Stockholm, though I really hope she will.

starr
Apr 17th, 2005, 09:12 PM
I don't believe Venus will play all those tournaments after the USO either. I've seen other years where Venus announced she was going to play a number of tournaments after the USO, and she didn't.

I think this schedule will see revision before the year is out.

With most players, I look at what they've got on the schedule for the next couple of months and that's all. Venus's schedule is probalby good through Wimbledon. After that, who knows?

sebbe
Apr 17th, 2005, 09:16 PM
I don't believe Venus will play all those tournaments after the USO either. I've seen other years where Venus announced she was going to play a number of tournaments after the USO, and she didn't.

I think this schedule will see revision before the year is out.

With most players, I look at what they've got on the schedule for the next couple of months and that's all. Venus's schedule is probalby good through Wimbledon. After that, who knows?


Finally someone who agrees with me :D

squash
Apr 17th, 2005, 10:09 PM
I just can not see Venus playing all these tournament. I mean there is no diamond racket to win.. Venus only seems to play well when a million dollar racket is invole.

cometz9
Apr 17th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Venus in Toronto...I'm gonna try and go if she is committed there :bolt: