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DiZZiA
Apr 16th, 2005, 12:08 AM
I've not seen this girl played before. Can someone tell me? :)

matthieu_tennis
Apr 16th, 2005, 12:13 AM
good forehand good back hand good serve good movement smart play she doesnt have a big big weapon and weakness her forehand can be very strong

Pengwin
Apr 16th, 2005, 12:13 AM
I think it's mostly solidity on her groundstokes, her stable serve (esp. second), and her mental strength.

V.Melb
Apr 16th, 2005, 12:14 AM
well. IMHO. She doesn't have weapons. Just very very consistent with a good feel of the court and where to hit the ball. Also she is technically very sound. She has very good topspin.
However there is no big shot in her game.... Look at Golovin having to rally 30-40 shots with players like Cervanova and you can see Golovin has no weapons other then consistency.
Evidently a talented player... but no weapons.

sartrista7
Apr 16th, 2005, 12:15 AM
She doesn't have massive groundstrokes off either wing, but they're technically solid as a rock, very consistent, and she's able to cope with power very well. Her real weapons are her mind and her variety. She's a very adept tactician, surprising for such a young player, and is able to adapt her game to fit her opponent, the conditions, and the surface. She's got nice variety, too - lovely drop shots and pretty decent volleys. A good mover around the court, though I think this is more to do with excellent anticipation than foot speed.

She also has some of the best footwork in the game, which really helps her consistency - she sets herself up for each shot beautifully, and hardly ever looks awkward.

I guess the major weakness is a touch of mental frailty, she's shown a propensity for choking in recent times, though maybe this week will be a turning point.

Dominic
Apr 16th, 2005, 12:26 AM
Watching her play I never understood how she was ranked in the top 50

jenglisbe
Apr 16th, 2005, 01:00 AM
She's more of a Hingis (i.e. smart player, consistent strokes) than a Sharapova or Serena.

Pengwin
Apr 16th, 2005, 01:02 AM
She was pounding the ball against Venus though.

fammmmedspin
Apr 16th, 2005, 01:08 AM
She's not injured. She does a lot of things very well if not overwhelmingly so. She keeps the ball in the lines. She can do it week in week out. She's smart. She doesn't seem to freeze mentally this year. That should be enough for the top 10 given the very few people in the top 20 who don't have problems doing some or all of these things at present.

BK4ever
Apr 16th, 2005, 01:09 AM
Tati has weapons...HUGE FH...and a vastly improved serve (now hitting it over 110mph). Tati just chooses to sit back and wait for errors, but when she wants she can hit her groundies as hard and penetrating as the next big hitter...watch a few Tati matches and you will see what I'm talking about.

Ryan
Apr 16th, 2005, 01:39 AM
Tati has weapons...HUGE FH...and a vastly improved serve (now hitting it over 110mph). Tati just chooses to sit back and wait for errors, but when she wants she can hit her groundies as hard and penetrating as the next big hitter...watch a few Tati matches and you will see what I'm talking about.


I agree. I saw her play Serena at thE USO last year, and she SPANKED forehands from all over the place, she just couldn't do it consistantly enough. However, against people from #15-down, she should be able to play a tough, consistant game and they shouldn't be able to trouble her. Hopefully she can have a great clay season.

Havok
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:09 AM
She has a sweet backhand dtl when she rips it flat. As it was mentioned, Golovin doesn't have a HUGE weapon like a Venus backhand, or a Seles return, or a Serena serve, but every shot she has is very consistent. All her shots are above average, she plays good defence, very good fottwork, nice variety 9(doesn't always hit the same balls over and over again). She'll have to add some more power to her shots to improve, and I think she's keen on doing that.

xcrtbckhnd
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:18 AM
I've only see Tati play once or twice, but I think her consistency and anticipation were her biggest weapons. You frequently hear of players playing the wrong shot or going for too much - Tati seldom makes these kinds of mistakes and her smart style wins her matches. She definitely is trying to make her forehand a weapon and she goes for it appropriately.

rhz
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:28 AM
Her game reminds me of Kournikova minus the volleys!!

Dokicfan17
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:30 AM
Golovin is def a WICKED WICKED consistant player. You wont hear Pam say, awful time or she pulled up a lil too much, Golovin's speed and AMAZING footwork all her to play and play and play, shes technically VERY solid. When others make 50 plus errors, against the fence backhands etc. golovin doesnt.

shes also very smart!...she knows when her opponet is playing bad and when she has to step up or not...AGAINST VENUS, she knew she was playing badly so she knew her consistancy would kill Venus...she chose to rally out because she can last...

but when she wants , she can rip shots...and her serve is also very good, not BIG , but good placement and solid and deep.

I thinks shes a smart, and good technical player who can PLAY..she never beats herself so thats a big plus

AK-DH Fan
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:31 AM
Her game reminds me of Kournikova minus the volleys!!

I know, there's so much of a simularity. I'm surprised it's not mentioned more often. I agree, her vollies aren't up to Anna's level from what I've seen, but everything else is really simular.

AK-DH Fan
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:33 AM
This is all interesting for me to here. I didn't think Tati chose to just sit back and let her oponents make the mistakes, I thought that's the way she always played. Glad u guys informed me that she can be aggresive and more powerful on the court. VERY SMART TATI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dominic
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:39 AM
Anna hits way harder than golovin. In like three matches, Ive seen this girl hit like one or two winners.

backhanddtl4
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:45 AM
Her forehand is better than her other shots, but mainly, she's consistent.

wateva
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:54 AM
her butt

SM
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:02 AM
anna might hit harder, but tati wins matches. nuff said

switz
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:03 AM
hitting with depth near the lines and being able to it consistancy really is a significant weapon IMO. sure she might be blown of court by a power player in top form but ultimately she is going to carve out a very very good career for herself as she continues to develop her game - which it will because there is room for her get more power - and because she is so technically proficient already it will mean her game won't go off the boil. the other girls her age have power but they have the more diffcult task of actually being more than just ball bashers.

switz
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:07 AM
anna might hit harder, but tati wins matches. nuff said

not really. i'm pretty sure anna won matches when she was tati's age. probably much more significant matches actually - Wimbledon semi-finalist spings to mind. people like to say kournikova just wasn't very good but the reality is that at tati's age anna was a major player on tour and had an extremel impressive all court game. she simply failed to deal with the injuries she got in the way a professional athlete needs to and that's what killed her.

AK-DH Fan
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:37 AM
Yeah I agree. Harder and Flatter. Much more risk in Anna's game.

Come to think of it, they are quite different. But the movement of Golovin reminds me of anna

La Reine
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:43 AM
I love Golovin's game. I was so impressed with her against Venus. Even though people on the board were talking about how pretty she was I didn't see pretty at all (except for a very, very flat butt) I saw awful smart. She's my next Hingis with a bit more power and a bit less court awareness.

tenn_ace
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:45 AM
I thought that she was evry fast when she played against Dinara... It surely frustrated the hell out of Safina...

Chunchun
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:46 AM
consistent groundstrokes :D

beauty :D

La Reine
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:49 AM
Another thing I noticed about Golovin. Lots of players of today seem to think of point construction as hitting the ball from side to side and waiting for the opening to go for the winner but Tatiana seemed more aware of what kinds of spin, loop, depth, shot to hit at every given moment. I can't say enough about how much I liked her style of play.

Go Tati!

matthieu_tennis
Apr 16th, 2005, 04:00 AM
yes i saw a point last wimbledon against serena its was just wowowwo she hit 2 ou 3 backhand down the line very high and serena make a short ball and she hit a inside out backhand so hard and on the line i said she will have definitly a great future

Pamela Shriver
Apr 16th, 2005, 06:57 AM
What weapons does Golovin have in her tennis game?

Weapons? Is that allowed? Gangsta Golovin...

fredbdx
Apr 16th, 2005, 08:53 AM
WEAPONS:
-good physical abilitites: tall enough, good shape
-good mental abilities: very confident, sure about her value and not fear to play on big events or against top player
-best shot: there's no doubt that she can almost do whatever she wants with her forhand: deep down the line or cross; short cross topspin. She doesn't miss a lot on that side!and most of the time her forehand helps her to take the advantage durong a point
-strong shot: she's not the more powerfull and impressive serve on the tour , but since a couple a month, she improoves a lot on that shot. Her serve has always been good since she plays on the tour, but she was unsed to double fauted to much....it seems that she improoves on that point to stable it.

MARGIN OF PROGRESS:
-definitely, she doesn't come naturally to the net and her volleys aren't really smart. She's naturally a background player and has to learn how to come to the net at the right moment and how to play it smartly
-her backhand could progress. There's no doubt that Tatiana is used to build the points with her terrific forehand...so maybe she's less worked on her backhand. She sometimes hit the ball with a little bit of reticence. That's the reason why, the ball's speed is slower on that shot and may be why she can maker more unforced errors (balls in the net). She has to learn how to advance with the ball liker she did with her forehand.
However, on that point too, she seems to improove since a couple of weeks.

SpikeyAidanm
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:58 AM
Her footwork is a weapon.

jlamire
Apr 16th, 2005, 10:48 AM
I guess people that don't understand why she is so good do not know a lot about tennis and do (or did not ever) not play themselves. That's amazing how people can be blind and narrow minded....It seems the fact a player keeps blasting winners here and there aside of tons of unforced errors is the only measure to greatness in this newsgroup.

DevilishAttitude
Apr 16th, 2005, 10:49 AM
Golovin does have weapons. She definetly has increased the power from last year. But she lost some of her consisentesy doing that. In the Venus match she played very well. Just keeping the ball in play and not going for too much. She didn't hit many winners but she didn't have to. For a 17 year old she's a clever player. Her serve is a little wild at times but not a weakness and she moves well. Will have to improve her net game which is raw.

She needs though to be powerful and consisent though has she gets older or she'll begin to struggle to amke the next step. :)

Babolatpro880
Apr 16th, 2005, 01:22 PM
I saw her play Serena a couple times, and really what I noticed was that she is more of a placement-type player, but she can really crank it when she has the opportunity. I also recall that her serve, while she could hit it in the triple digits often, wasn't very well placed, but maybe she's improved that. Also, I recall that one of the announcers in the US Open fourth round compared her to Hingis.

Experimentee
Apr 16th, 2005, 04:01 PM
She doesnt have any weapons, but she is consistent. She has solid groundstrokes and doesnt make many UE's.

SzavayFi
Apr 16th, 2005, 04:04 PM
Consistent, good heavy tospin forehand.

controlfreak
Apr 16th, 2005, 04:42 PM
She has some pairs of hotpants that could be useful against Mauresmo, Conchita... those type of players... :angel:

SzavayFi
Apr 16th, 2005, 04:44 PM
She has some pairs of hotpants that could be useful against Mauresmo, Conchita... those type of players... :angel:
:spit: :tape:

j_dementieva27
Apr 16th, 2005, 04:46 PM
yup, tatiana's biggest weapons are her movement, consistancy, and she can really hit out on her forehand... oh well, i guess you can see what she plays like today at 2:30 if you have espn (they are showing her and justine's match today)

thelittlestelf
Apr 16th, 2005, 05:23 PM
I really love Tati's game. It is a lot like Hingis' minus the volleys and plus the serve. I can't quite see the similarities between her and Anna's game at all, though, aside from the fact that they both made every shot look pretty :).

She has a really mature game and if she gets more power she could be a great addition to the top 10, and even the top 5. Hell, she's probably got the talent to be a future #1!

Rocketta
Apr 16th, 2005, 05:26 PM
in this tournament I will have to say Golovin's weapons are the wind and the cold. :o

xcrtbckhnd
Apr 16th, 2005, 05:33 PM
I think anticipation combined with good footwork and consistency are her main weapons. She actually reminds me more of Myskina than Hingis or Anna. Someone else said that she doesn't beat herself and I thought that was a good comment as well. I'm excited to watch her play at 2:30 and hope she brings her A-game! Tati's talents are very subtle and I think it takes a more advanced viewer to appreciate her game. Most of the people of this board will get it, but your average viewer will probably not understand how she imposes her game on her opponents. Interesting thread and interesting comments BTW!!!

matthieu_tennis
Apr 16th, 2005, 05:36 PM
me i see some match she hit the ball very hard when she wants accelerate she juust doesnt use her strenght everytime she hit hard at the good momment

Rocketta
Apr 16th, 2005, 08:49 PM
I think anticipation combined with good footwork and consistency are her main weapons. She actually reminds me more of Myskina than Hingis or Anna. Someone else said that she doesn't beat herself and I thought that was a good comment as well. I'm excited to watch her play at 2:30 and hope she brings her A-game! Tati's talents are very subtle and I think it takes a more advanced viewer to appreciate her game. Most of the people of this board will get it, but your average viewer will probably not understand how she imposes her game on her opponents. Interesting thread and interesting comments BTW!!!

hmm she beat herself today...that tiebreak was atrocious and when it got close she couldn't buy a first serve. :( :( :( :(

auntie janie
Apr 17th, 2005, 01:23 AM
Even though she lost, I thought Tatiana showed another side of her interesting and stylish game today. She started out so aggressively, really controlling the match, hitting a lot of service, groundstroke, and smart volley winners. Clearly, this is a girl who has more than one game plan and can actually implement totally different tactics against different opponents, far more so than most 17-year-olds.

True, she was unable to keep up her excellent level of aggressive play; when Justine suddenly hit her own stride, Tatiana seemed to lose her self-belief to some extent, though she kept fighting. But I was impressed with this more aggressive style she demonstrated so ably, and I have had to adjust my opinion of her. I now see Tatiana as a very, very well-rounded player in the making, and not just a smart, consistent player who out-steadies her opponents. I look forward to seeing how her game develops over the season. She's a great athlete, too.

yukon145
Apr 17th, 2005, 01:26 AM
Even though she lost, I thought Tatiana showed another side of her interesting and stylish game today. She started out so aggressively, really controlling the match, hitting a lot of service, groundstroke, and smart volley winners. Clearly, this is a girl who has more than one game plan and can actually implement totally different tactics against different opponents, far more so than most 17-year-olds.

True, she was unable to keep up her excellent level of aggressive play; when Justine suddenly hit her own stride, Tatiana seemed to lose her self-belief to some extent, though she kept fighting. But I was impressed with this more aggressive style she demonstrated so ably, and I have had to adjust my opinion of her. I now see Tatiana as a very, very well-rounded player in the making, and not just a smart, consistent player who out-steadies her opponents. I look forward to seeing how her game develops over the season. She's a great athlete, too.

well said

UDiTY
Apr 17th, 2005, 01:35 AM
Today I was surprised by her power, I didn't know she'd hit that hard.


And her good net play.

She's gonna be top 10 soon.:cool:

andrewbroad
Apr 19th, 2005, 01:55 AM
I haven't seen Tatiana play since Birmingham and Wimbledon 2004, but here are some notes that I wrote back in August:

Tatiana is an intelligent player who hits a lot of winners by constructing rallies rather than sheer power. She has good command of depth and placement, and a good serve. But she can be sporadic, and I would like to see her hit with more power - without too many errors.

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Dr. Andrew Broad
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TatianaGolovin/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TatianaGolovin/)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tati_golovin88/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tati_golovin88/)

Gowza
Apr 19th, 2005, 02:28 AM
ive only seen her play a few times, against serena, a few fed cup matches and some other grand slam matches. i saw her at AO this year and wasnt impressed, maybe she had an off day because i think she was beaten by abigail spears in that match. the only match where she has impressed me was against serena and i think that was at the us open last year (?) she doesnt hit with devastating power, she seems a bit like a counter puncher to me, she hits with enough power, can deal with big power from her opponent and she contructs her points well and hits with nice depth, the combo of depth and construction of points is why she has done so well on the tour so far. she doesnt have any massive weapons tho which is why i think she will find it hard to compete at the highest level (top 5) day in day out. imo her volleys could use work, watching the mixed final with her and gasquet at the FO she didnt seem to be able to volley all that great.

certainly if she could ad a little more power on her strokes (or somehow develop one as a weapon) and not lose the depth on them then she will be a pretty good player and probably a top 10 player in the future.