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tobe
Apr 15th, 2005, 06:17 AM
Good news: They are planned to show Lindsay-Justine LIVE which would be awesome!
Bad news: right before Tennis they are showing Taekwondo like yesterday, so we will probably only see the secon set if they overrun again like in the Venus match :mad:

foreva lindsay
Apr 15th, 2005, 06:21 AM
YAY :D great match choice (for once) euroshit!!

Sevenseas
Apr 15th, 2005, 06:38 AM
Bad news: right before Tennis they are showing Taekwondo like yesterday, so we will probably only see the secon set if they overrun again like in the Venus match :mad:

Oh, that's great! :rolleyes: Eurosport gets weirder and weirder each day and nobody can do anything to make them come to their senses urgently! :mad:

Tati & Dani
Apr 15th, 2005, 07:29 AM
i thought eurosport gonne show tennis at 19.00 Cet ?

Golovin-Petrova is at 11.00 in the usa , so that's 19.00 in europe

Or did eurosport changed there schedules ?

Fedcup
Apr 15th, 2005, 07:47 AM
i thought eurosport gonne show tennis at 19.00 Cet ?

Golovin-Petrova is at 11.00 in the usa , so that's 19.00 in europe

Or did eurosport changed there schedules ?

11.00 + 6 hours difference = 17 PM

Henin - DAvenport at 1 PM local time + 6 = 19.00 in Europe

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 08:48 AM
ES will show the match Justine-Linds! ;)

Tati & Dani
Apr 15th, 2005, 09:23 AM
11.00 + 6 hours difference = 17 PM

Henin - DAvenport at 1 PM local time + 6 = 19.00 in Europe

omg !! :eek: i don't know how much 11+6 is :haha:

Kelly
Apr 15th, 2005, 09:40 AM
6pm uk time
7pm cet

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 09:42 AM
Oh, that's great! :rolleyes: Eurosport gets weirder and weirder each day and nobody can do anything to make them come to their senses urgently! :mad:

The World Championships in other sports particularly if they take place in Europe and when the major responsibility for television broadcasting lies with Eurosport as this time with Taekwondo, have a higher priority than a WTA tournament played outside of Europe. When the tour comes to Europe you'll see more tennis even on Eurosport. For example the responsibility for television broadcasting at Qatar Total German Open lies with EUROSPORT.
Eurosport's world doesn't evolve around tennis, it's a sports channel not a tennis channel. Nothing weird about that.

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 09:47 AM
The World Championships in other sports particularly if they take place in Europe and when the major responsibility for television broadcasting lies with Eurosport as this time with Taekwondo, have a higher priority than a WTA tournament played outside of Europe. When the tour comes to Europe you'll see more tennis even on Eurosport. For example the responsibility for television broadcasting at Qatar Total German Open lies with EUROSPORT.
Eurosport's world doesn't evolve around tennis, it's a sports channel not a tennis channel. Nothing weird about that.

Yep, I'm always trying to make this point. I love tennis more then any other sport, but how can people don't understand that other sport has fans too is beyond me! ;)

Sevenseas
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:05 AM
The World Championships in other sports particularly if they take place in Europe and when the major responsibility for television broadcasting lies with Eurosport as this time with Taekwondo, have a higher priority than a WTA tournament played outside of Europe. When the tour comes to Europe you'll see more tennis even on Eurosport. For example the responsibility for television broadcasting at Qatar Total German Open lies with EUROSPORT.
Eurosport's world doesn't evolve around tennis, it's a sports channel not a tennis channel. Nothing weird about that.

I do like watching other sports on Eurosport without any doubt and I totally side with the fact that any kind of sports should be broadcasted. My point is, Eurosport does need to make arrangements when it comes to tennis matches. There have been quite many frustrations by the viewers lately and it is very natural for them to speak their minds about it. :angel:

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Yep, I'm always trying to make this point. I love tennis more then any other sport, but how can people don't understand that other sport has fans too is beyond me! ;)

Thank you Lady.
The strange thing is that tennis has been getting more coverage at Eurosport the past 3 years than ever before, yeah ever since I began to produce there but it seems that people only want to focus on what they're not getting. If it's not tennis 24/7 then Eurosport becomes Euroshit. :rolleyes:
Just a little thought...I'm thinking about leaving my job as a producer after this year...I wonder who's going to push tennis at Eurosport then? Good thing we managed to re-new the deal with WTAtour so at least women's tennis will get continued coverage but still...

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:13 AM
My point is, Eurosport does need to make arrangements when it comes to tennis matches. There have been quite many frustrations by the viewers lately and it is very natural for them to speak their minds about it. :angel:

What kind of match arrangements are you talking about? Eurosport can't be held resposible the way schedule of play is constructed at tournaments. There always will be frustrations by the viewers no matter what sport, nothing new there. It's impossible to satisfy everybody's needs.

Sevenseas
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:30 AM
There always will be frustrations by the viewers no matter what sport, nothing new there. It's impossible to satisfy everybody's needs.


That’s true, but I would like to watch more Tennis coverage especially when it comes to Grand Slams. I’m just vocalizing my complaints and demands. There is nothing wrong with that, as I’m not here to offend anyone. I’m sure you understand, my friend. Thanks. :angel:

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:48 AM
That’s true, but I would like to watch more Tennis coverage especially when it comes to Grand Slams. I’m just vocalizing my complaints and demands. There is nothing wrong with that, as I’m not here to offend anyone. I’m sure you understand, my friend. Thanks. :angel:

There will be more coverage of Grand Slams on Eurosport, except Wimbledon, since now there's ES1 and ES2. However there's very little we can do when it becomes last minute changes in which match is going to be shown. Obviously we make a plan for each day which matches we intend to cover live but if the first or the second match of the day takes a long time to finish then that puts the rest of the schedule a little upside down. I can understand the frustration some fans have when their favourite is scheduled to be shown and then that doesn't happen because a previous match(es) have taken too long time to be finished but we do our best that's all we can do. :shrug:

Sevenseas
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:54 AM
There will be more coverage of Grand Slams on Eurosport, except Wimbledon, since now there's ES1 and ES2. However there's very little we can do when it becomes last minute changes in which match is going to be shown. Obviously we make a plan for each day which matches we intend to cover live but if the first or the second match of the day takes a long time to finish then that puts the rest of the schedule a little upside down. I can understand the frustration some fans have when their favourite is scheduled to be shown and then that doesn't happen because a previous match(es) have taken too long time to be finished but we do our best that's all we can do. :shrug:

I sincerely appreciate your information as I was really wondering about this whole thing lately. Now that you explained, we need to be calmer from now on. ;) I wish you good luck with your work. :)

volta
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:01 AM
at least good news

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:04 AM
I sincerely appreciate your information as I was really wondering about this whole thing lately. Now that you explained, we need to be calmer from now on. ;) I wish you good luck with your work. :)

Thank you! :hug: I try to do my best and set the best possible ground for the future tennis coverage before I leave the building for good.
I sincerely appreciate when you and other people voice their opinions even if I need to explain the same things over and over again. I'm glad if my explanation has shown a little light how things are run at Eurosport.
Take care! :wavey:

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:04 AM
There will be more coverage of Grand Slams on Eurosport, except Wimbledon, since now there's ES1 and ES2. However there's very little we can do when it becomes last minute changes in which match is going to be shown. Obviously we make a plan for each day which matches we intend to cover live but if the first or the second match of the day takes a long time to finish then that puts the rest of the schedule a little upside down. I can understand the frustration some fans have when their favourite is scheduled to be shown and then that doesn't happen because a previous match(es) have taken too long time to be finished but we do our best that's all we can do. :shrug:

So Grand Slams will be shown on ES2 as well?? Great news!

BTW, is there any chance that ES will might get covarage of Wimbledon one day? Or it's not possible in the near future? :)

Any chance to get ATP Masters Series? :)

Thank you for your info!
Now I know somebody from ES! And I can honestly say that ES is the best sport channel, especially for tennis fans! I have around 5-6 sport chennels at home, and no other is showing tennis! :worship:

DEETHELICK
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:15 AM
I always thought that the WTA tennis was one of their biggest attractions and packages, they always seem to promote it. Thats why I don't understand the reduced coverage.

Oh well, Justine vs Lindsay, what a matchup... I actually think Justine will take it.

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:19 AM
So Grand Slams will be shown on ES2 as well?? Great news!

As far as RG is concerned ES1 will cover most of the tournament. The schedules for ES1 and ES2 are not quite finished. Will be some time next week.
USO is not scheduled at all yet. A little too early. :lol:

BTW, is there any chance that ES will might get covarage of Wimbledon one day? Or it's not possible in the near future? :)

Eurosport would love to cover all GS but the fact that ES is commercial channel seems to put off old farts at BBC who refuse the contract with ES.

Any chance to get ATP Masters Series? :)
Eurosport is working on it. ATP has always been a little harder to get but hopefully.

Thank you for your info!
Now I know somebody from ES! And I can honestly say that ES is the best sport channel, especially for tennis fans! I have around 5-6 sport chennels at home, and no other is showing tennis! :worship:

Thank you for these kind words. Eurosport is aware of that it shows most tennis in Europe but unfortunately not enough. :wavey:

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:23 AM
I always thought that the WTA tennis was one of their biggest attractions and packages, they always seem to promote it. Thats why I don't understand the reduced coverage.

Oh well, Justine vs Lindsay, what a matchup... I actually think Justine will take it.

It's not reduced coverage. The coverage has been increased by 25-30% the past three years. Eurosport covers more tennis than any other broadcasting company in Europe. However the focus is on Grand Slams and tournaments played in Europe.

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:23 AM
Thank you for the info!
I know that it's not ES fault that they can't show Wimby and ATP!
But hopefully one day!!
And RG cpvarage was always great!

I really appreciate ES, without it I'd get zero tennis! :D :worship:

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:25 AM
It's not reduced coverage. The coverage has been increased by 25-30% the past three years. Eurosport covers more tennis than any other broadcasting company in Europe. However the focus is in Grand Slams and tournaments played in Europe.

Indeed, I actually noticed.
I don't think any other channel in the world shows all Tier 2's and 1's! Even if it's a SF and a F!

BTW, can you give any insight of what players ES prefers to show? :angel:
Only if you're allowed to... :)

Sevenseas
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:33 AM
As far as RG is concerned ES1 will cover most of the tournament. The schedules for ES1 and ES2 are not quite finished. Will be some time next week.
USO is not scheduled at all yet. A little too early. :lol:



Eurosport would love to cover all GS but the fact that ES is commercial channel seems to put off old farts at BBC who refuse the contract with ES.


Eurosport is working on it. ATP has always been a little harder to get but hopefully.



Thank you for these kind words. Eurosport is aware of that it shows most tennis in Europe but unfortunately not enough. :wavey:


Thank you very much for all this great info, Stenen, :wavey: as we tennis lovers needed it so much! I’m also looking forward to watching Wimbledon one day on Eurosport. We all appreciate your efforts to explain these things in detail! :worship:

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:39 AM
BTW, can you give any insight of what players ES prefers to show? :angel:
Only if you're allowed to... :)

:lol: maybe not on a public board :lol: :secret: whoever is my fav :secret:
just kidding :lol:
Seriously speaking Eurosport tries not to favourise any player even if it looks like that sometimes. We look at the schedule of play and try to pick up the most interesting matches and players along that schedule. We try to get as much variation as possible but sometimes long matches stir things up. Anyway which match to show is always the hardest decision because you make one happy and the other one angry.
Then different match can be shown on ES International than i.g. ES UK.

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:50 AM
:lol: maybe not on a public board :lol: :secret: whoever is my fav :secret:
just kidding :lol:
Seriously speaking Eurosport tries not to favourise any player even if it looks like that sometimes. We look at the schedule of play and try to pick up the most interesting matches and players along that schedule. We try to get as much variation as possible but sometimes long matches stir things up. Anyway which match to show is always the hardest decision because you make one happy and the other one angry.
Then different match can be shown on ES International than i.g. ES UK.

Do you have any impact on what matches will be scheduled in ES TV live time in Europe?
Cause it often looks that way! :)

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:58 AM
Do you have any impact on what matches will be scheduled in ES TV live time in Europe?
Cause it often looks that way! :)
It's about tennis and not about my personal preferences. We make those decision together as a group. Sometimes we need to vote and if it's a tie, then I can use my power as a producer which will be shown but it only happens once or twice a year.
Often I'm away at GS and broadcasting decisions are made without me. :(

shirgan
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:00 PM
:lol: maybe not on a public board :lol: :secret: whoever is my fav :secret:
just kidding :lol:
Seriously speaking Eurosport tries not to favourise any player even if it looks like that sometimes. We look at the schedule of play and try to pick up the most interesting matches and players along that schedule. We try to get as much variation as possible but sometimes long matches stir things up. Anyway which match to show is always the hardest decision because you make one happy and the other one angry.
Then different match can be shown on ES International than i.g. ES UK.
I've noticed Sharapova is a favorite.
She gets shown quite a lot I think

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:04 PM
I've noticed Sharapova is a favorite.
She gets shown quite a lot I think

Not my favourite :tape: I know she's shown a lot. Sometimes it feels like tournament officials are aware of when Eurosport is broadcasting and they make the schedule of play in a way that it's almost certain that her match will be shown. Just a feeling I have.....

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:09 PM
What we need is to put on Roland Garros on ES 2 when Giro D'Italia is on ES1 at that time.

any chance of that ??
RG is the World's #1 event at that time and should be covered 100% in full daily.

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:14 PM
What we need is to put on Roland Garros on ES 2 when Giro D'Italia is on ES1 at that time.

any chance of that ??

That's has been our thought too so maybe.

RG is the World's #1 event at that time and should be covered 100% in full daily.
Everything is relative. ;)

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:21 PM
It's about tennis and not about my personal preferences. We make those decision together as a group. Sometimes we need to vote and if it's a tie, then I can use my power as a producer which will be shown but it only happens once or twice a year.
Often I'm away at GS and broadcasting decisions are made in Europe without me. :(

Sorry, i didn't express myself clearly!
I meant to ask if ES have any impact on who is scheduled to play in their show time, when tourny is in Europe? ;)

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:35 PM
Sorry, i didn't express myself clearly!
I meant to ask if ES have any impact on who is scheduled to play in their show time, when tourny is in Europe? ;)

Not really unless it's Roland Garros. Our broadcasting schedule is made weeks before and the tournament schedule of play is made the evening before. We can't really go say to tournament officials; "put Henin-Hardenne's match first so we can broadcast it". Since I'm also involved on WTA tour in Europe I know that some tournament officials look into our broadcasting schedule but I'm not sure how much they succeed to influence the schedule of play in the way that a certain player would more coverage than others. Although sometimes it feels that they do. :rolleyes:

Kelly
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:38 PM
the only thing that bugs me about eurosport is when it says the tennis is on then it decides to show yoz or something.....even if the tennis is a replay. but on a whole we get a lot of coverage nd without eurosport we'd be screaming for tennis.....also tim henman is given preference in the slams which really annoys me...especially as he is always drawn to play the same days as lindsay lol

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:41 PM
Not really unless it's Roland Garros. Our broadcasting schedule is made weeks before and the tournament schedule of play is made the evening before. We can't really go say to tournament officials; "put Henin-Hardenne's match first so we can broadcast it". Since I'm also involved on WTA tour in Europe I know that some tournament officials look into our broadcasting schedule but I'm not sure how much they succeed to influence the schedule of play in the way that a certain player would more coverage than others. Although sometimes it feels that they do. :rolleyes:

Thanks!
That's what I wanted to know! :D

Sorry for bothering you so much, but there's something I really wanted to know...

Why when there're rain delays, ES doesn't show us classic matches from past years?
Even last year's final of that particular tourny would be great!!
Instead they always show some boxing?

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:45 PM
this question always bugs me

why do you leave the tennis coverage straight away after Finals
we would like to see the trophy presentation

and for cycling, you stay there....... till the end and even after the girls have kissed the days winner and thats for every day :o

surely the kissing of the cyclist isnt in the contract is it ??

and same goes for the Bikes :o :rolleyes:

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:47 PM
the only thing that bugs me about eurosport is when it says the tennis is on then it decides to show yoz or something.....even if the tennis is a replay. but on a whole we get a lot of coverage nd without eurosport we'd be screaming for tennis.....also tim henman is given preference in the slams which really annoys me...especially as he is always drawn to play the same days as lindsay lol

I'm only work on issues concerning live coverage of tennis so I can't answer to your question why something else is shown when tennis should be shown as a replay.
I know Henman is given priority at Eurosport UK and I'm sorry if it upsets you but we give the options of matches to ES UK but let them make their choice independently.

DEETHELICK
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:51 PM
When I meant reduced coverage, I meant on ES1. :)

Also, the tennis schedules change too much too quickly it feels like. For the 1-2 live matches we get per week, it'd be nice if they stay fixed. Do you have any idea as to why live scheduling is cut out?

RG on ES2?? No no no!! I'll never get to see it as I do not have digital access!! :(

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:56 PM
this question always bugs me

why do you leave the tennis coverage straight away after Finals
we would like to see the trophy presentation


Sometimes if there's broadcasting time left we'll show the prize ceremony like we did at Filderstadt. Of course this match ended much sooner than we expected due to Mauresmo's injury but sometimes matches can be so long that we're already over due our broadcasting time. And even if there isn't the next live coverage of some other event starting right after a tennis final there could be one within the next hour or so. We have our TV schedule for the day and we tried to keep ourselves within those given times. Yesterday there was a taekwondo live coverage, we couldn't cut off in the middle of it and move onto tennis. The same way it is with tennis...we show the match til the end before moving on to next event on TV schedule.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:06 PM
Sometimes if there's broadcasting time left we'll show the prize ceremony like we did at Filderstadt. Of course this match ended much sooner than we expected due to Mauresmo's injury but sometimes matches can be so long that we're already over due our broadcasting time. And even if there isn't the next live coverage of some other event starting right after a tennis final there could be one within the next hour or so. We have our TV schedule for the day and we tried to keep ourselves within those given times. Yesterday there was a taekwondo live coverage, we couldn't cut off in the middle of it and move onto tennis. The same way it is with tennis...we show the match til the end before moving on to next event on TV schedule.


dont buy that as cycling presentation is covered even if it runs 30 mins longer.

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:07 PM
When I meant reduced coverage, I meant on ES1. :)

Do you mean ES1 or ES UK? There some difference there as far as broadcasting is concerned.

Also, the tennis schedules change too much too quickly it feels like. For the 1-2 live matches we get per week, it'd be nice if they stay fixed. Do you have any idea as to why live scheduling is cut out?

How do mean cut out? Do you mean why we cover so little tennis when the tournament is played outside of Europe? It's a financial thing which I've explained a month ago in another thread.
Some of tennis has been moved to ES2, sorry.

RG on ES2?? No no no!! I'll never get to see it as I do not have digital access!! :(

Don't worry most of it will be on ES1 or ES UK for you. :D

I have to go to work soon...so I might not be able to answer more question today, that is if there more question to be asked. ;) But if there are any I'll answer them later...you can always pm me too.

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:08 PM
So how about classic matches? :angel:


I'm sorry, I'm so annoying! :o

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:11 PM
dont buy that as cycling presentation is covered even if it runs 30 mins longer.

So is tennis believe me, sometimes I've witness tennis matches that took over an hour longer than our broadcasting time was but we showed them until they ended.

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:16 PM
So how about classic matches? :angel:


I'm sorry, I'm so annoying! :o

Sorry I didn't mean to forget your question. That is a good suggestion. I know ESPN Classic in Europe is showing some really great old matches so maybe they would feel that we getting into their territory but I look into it.
Thanks!

Spunky83
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:19 PM
I canīt believe that some of you guys still think that Eurosport CHOSES which match to show?!? Charleston and their main tv channel make the schedule and thatīs it.

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:27 PM
I canīt believe that some of you guys still think that Eurosport CHOSES which match to show?!? Charleston and their main tv channel make the schedule and thatīs it.

Yes! Like ES has a choice! ;)

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:28 PM
I canīt believe that some of you guys still think that Eurosport CHOSES which match to show?!? Charleston and their main tv channel make the schedule and thatīs it.

Actually it's tournament officials at Charleston that make the schedule, TV stations has very little saying in this. We take what we get.
When it comes to Roland Garros, Eurosport does choose which matches on the schedule of play are given priority however things often progress into different direction as the original plan was and 2 or 3 match of the day to be shown can be totally different than it was planned in the beginning of the day.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Actually it's tournament officials at Charleston that make the schedule, TV stations has very little saying in this. We take what we get.
When it comes to Roland Garros, Eurosport does choose which matches on the schedule of play are given priority however things often progress into different direction as the original plan was and 2 or 3 match of the day to be shown can be totally different than it was planned in the beginning of the day.


I'll give you $1 if you can make RG put Henman on a non-televised court :devil:

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:32 PM
So is tennis believe me, sometimes I've witness tennis matches that took over an hour longer than our broadcasting time was but we showed them until they ended.

what i was referring to was the presentation which sometimes lasts 15 mins
why cover presentation of a days race if its over-run :confused:
i can understand the final race days coverage.

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:32 PM
I'll give you $1 if you can make RG put Henman on a non-televised court :devil:

That decision is not my call. ;) It's up to official at RG. :p

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:34 PM
what i was referring to was the presentation which sometimes lasts 15 mins
why cover presentation of a days race if its over-run :confused:
i can understand the final race days coverage.

OK point taken. I'll pay more attention to this in the future.
Thanks! :)

DEETHELICK
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:36 PM
Thank you for your response. For example though, in my TV guide it said LIVE tennis was to be shown at x time. Then nearer the time, the live slot was missing and football replaced it (this actually happened during Miami, the Mria vs Justine QF was scheduled, then it was changed to football, but due to the sad demise of the Pope, footy was cancelled and we had tennis again.)

I'm ES UK. Please can you get rid of Henman matches, I agree with TBE!!! Hear hear!! And if you can show Elena D a little more, that would be great too ;)

Hehe, seriously, this is so interesting and great to hear from a Eurosport employee, our voices are being heard!

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:39 PM
Thank you for your response. For example though, in my TV guide it said LIVE tennis was to be shown at x time. Then nearer the time, the live slot was missing and football replaced it (this actually happened during Miami, the Mria vs Justine QF was scheduled, then it was changed to football, but due to the sad demise of the Pope, footy was cancelled and we had tennis again.)

I'm ES UK. Please can you get rid of Henman matches, I agree with TBE!!! Hear hear!! And if you can show Elena D a little more, that would be great too ;)

Hehe, seriously, this is so interesting and great to hear from a Eurosport employee, our voices are being heard!

I'll get back soon...now I need to dash, sorry. :wavey:

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:40 PM
Thank you for your response. For example though, in my TV guide it said LIVE tennis was to be shown at x time. Then nearer the time, the live slot was missing and football replaced it (this actually happened during Miami, the Mria vs Justine QF was scheduled, then it was changed to football, but due to the sad demise of the Pope, footy was cancelled and we had tennis again.)

I'm ES UK. Please can you get rid of Henman matches, I agree with TBE!!! Hear hear!! And if you can show Elena D a little more, that would be great too ;)

Hehe, seriously, this is so interesting and great to hear from a Eurosport employee, our voices are being heard!

Exactly!! :eek:
Especially if we compare with how much ESPN viewers complain, and get nothing in return! ;)

xan
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:05 PM
I've always wondered why, when Eurosport shows non-live matches, its nearly always the same match from the Live transmission repeated. Often there are better matches from the same day that must be available to Eurosport off tape.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:30 PM
I've always wondered why, when Eurosport shows non-live matches, its nearly always the same match from the Live transmission repeated. Often there are better matches from the same day that must be available to Eurosport off tape.

that would mean paying the commentators double :o (right ?)
most of the time they are watching the same feed as us in a little studio somewhere :tape:

raquel
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:34 PM
most of the time they are watching the same feed as us in a little studio somewhere :tape:
I thought that as well. It's funny when they say something like "We can't see the other court from our commentary box here". Well obviously - you're in a studio somewhere on the other side of the world!

LostGlory
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:52 PM
I personally think Eurosport is a good sports channel most of the time....they show a good variety...the only problem they have is limited live coverage....they do alot of repetitions....in a world that wants everything LIVE.

Melly Flew Us
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:03 PM
...
Just a little thought...I'm thinking about leaving my job as a producer after this year...I wonder who's going to push tennis at Eurosport then?

here's a solution. don't quit:)

Doc
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:51 PM
We love you really, Eurosport. :hearts:

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:10 PM
right what do we have again
Taekwondo :rolleyes:

GoDominique
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:12 PM
:banghead:

Oh well, from tomorrow we will have Snooker nonstop :banana: ;)

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:15 PM
:banghead:

Oh well, from tomorrow we will have Snooker nonstop :banana: ;)

there's enough on BBC over here so double dose of the same thing :yawn:

Petersmiler
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:24 PM
When will these men in pyjamas get off the tv! Getting frustrated now!

GoDominique
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:25 PM
WTF are they doing there ??????????????????????? :fiery: :fiery:

Darop.
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:26 PM
taekwando LMAO.

Joana
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:30 PM
I will take a trip to Madrid to kill those two idiots if the don't get off my TV NOW!!!!! :fiery:

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:31 PM
No, can you believe that they canceled the result, and now replaying the semi??
And they still can't start now!!

I'm so pissed at the championship organization! :)

I know, that it's not ES's fault!!

GoDominique
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:32 PM
20 minutes gone without anything happening !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111

Smackie
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Really I do understand other sports are just as important as tennis but please I really really really want to watch tennis rather than some disputes that looks like will take an hour to resolve.

How interesting is that!

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:32 PM
how many people actually know about Taekwondo in Europe ??
less than 1% i'd say :o

and we should stop giving ES ratings on Taekwondo
cos that way they probably think we enjoying it, but we're waiting for the crap to finish.

Smackie
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Oh, BTW, the one in blue looks like PY (Justine's husband) - any comment?

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Really I do understand other sports are just as important as tennis but please I really really really want to watch tennis rather than some disputes that looks like will take an hour to resolve.

How interesting is that!

Exactly!!!
I'd understand if they were actually playing (fighting)!!

But, can you believe in our luck??? :tape: :lol:

Joana
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:35 PM
It's bad enough that it's taekwondo. But now we have live coverage of two guys sitting around and doing nothing!!! Arggggggghhh! :banghead:

Smackie
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:36 PM
Thank god! They are leaving Taekwando!!!!

GoDominique
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:36 PM
They will go to tennis now :haha: :rolleyes:

25 minutes wasted for nothing. :o

Smackie
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:38 PM
but first, very important, commercial messages.

stenen
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:38 PM
25 min of lost tennis time and quite a few angry people, wow!
Thank you for your response. For example though, in my TV guide it said LIVE tennis was to be shown at x time. Then nearer the time, the live slot was missing and football replaced it (this actually happened during Miami, the Mria vs Justine QF was scheduled, then it was changed to football, but due to the sad demise of the Pope, footy was cancelled and we had tennis again.)


I'm sorry to hear this. I was in Miami then and don't know what kind of decisions were made at Eurosport. I'll look into it and why schedules change that way, thank you for telling me.

I've always wondered why, when Eurosport shows non-live matches, its nearly always the same match from the Live transmission repeated. Often there are better matches from the same day that must be available to Eurosport off tape.
TheBoiledEgg partly gave you the reason. ;)

how many people actually know about Taekwondo in Europe ??
less than 1% i'd say :o


Even less if Eurosport wouldn't show the WC in Taekwondo. It doesn't matter if it's 1% or 50%. It's an Olympic sport and it's WC taking place in Europe. The policy of Eurosport is to show variety of sports. Some sports only get noticed while it's Olympics or European/World Championships whereas sports like tennis, football(soccer), ice hockey, golf and motorsports, yeah basically professional sports, get a live coverage almost every week. Is this a good thing for the sporting world when only professional sports are focused on? Hardly.

I suppose I've missed some questions but it's late and I'm too :yawn: to think.

Pengwin
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:06 PM
Luckily Davenport was injured for 8 minutes (actually that's dreadful because I'm a fan), becuase otherwise we would have joined it even later.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 16th, 2005, 11:05 PM
and today :o

Brit ES got taped Moto GP instead of live tennis as on Euro Int

why not show the taped crap later, its taped after all :o

and then Simon Reed said they'll show that taped 2nd SF at 11-45 and what do we get........... YOZ :rolleyes:

quite pathetic

stenen
Apr 16th, 2005, 11:17 PM
and today :o

Brit ES got taped Moto GP instead of live tennis as on Euro Int

why not show the taped crap later, its taped after all :o

and then Simon Reed said they'll show that taped 2nd SF at 11-45 and what do we get........... YOZ :rolleyes:

quite pathetic

I've said that TV schedule listing are somewhat different in different countries depending on which ES they get. Even if it's the same broadcasting corporation some of the units are more independent than others. ES UK wanted to run their own race from the very beginning and that's what they got. They make their own TV schedules and this second semifinal match was not scheduled to be broadcasted live on ES UK.

Btw, when you're commenting, making suggestions, asking questions about ES it would be easier if you told me which ES you're receiving since you might be having a different flag than your location indicates. Since I'm very little involved with the British ES I can't always answer right away since they run things a little differently. Thanks!

stenen
Apr 16th, 2005, 11:53 PM
I personally think Eurosport is a good sports channel most of the time....they show a good variety...the only problem they have is limited live coverage....they do alot of repetitions....in a world that wants everything LIVE.

Depends on which season, how many international events; size of them, which sports, where they are - in Europe or outside, which weekday etc.

Live coverage on ES Int and ES 2 the next few days:

Sunday April 17: 14― hours on ES Int, 7― hours on ES2
Monday April 18: 7h 45min on ES Int, ES2 re-runs
Tuesday April 19: 11― hours on ES Int, 4 hours ES2
Wednesday April 20: 8― hours on ES Int, 4 hours ES2

Most repetition days this spring have been on Thursdays and Fridays.

Smackie
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Please please tell me they are showing the final today in the UK. Please!?

Anyone knows?

stenen
Apr 17th, 2005, 10:31 AM
Please please tell me they are showing the final today in the UK. Please!?

Anyone knows?

Ok...had to make a phone call to check it out. British ES has an hour broadcast of the final at 23.30 hrs GMT.
British ES2 have the same thing at 21.00 hrs GMT.
I'm sorry but no live coverage for British ES of the final. Maybe Brits think that motorsports and fight clubs are more fun. :rolleyes:
If you can receive digital broadcast via cable or satellite you'd be able to get ES Int even in the UK depending of course who your service provider is.

Petersmiler
Apr 17th, 2005, 11:10 AM
Ok...had to make a phone call to check it out. British ES has an hour broadcast of the final at 23.30 hrs GMT.
British ES2 have the same thing at 21.00 hrs GMT.
I'm sorry but no live coverage for British ES of the final. Maybe Brits think that motorsports and fight clubs are more fun. :rolleyes:
If you can receive digital broadcast via cable or satellite you'd be able to get ES Int even in the UK depending of course who your service provider is.

Would it automatically be there if we can view ESint in GB? Or would I have to do something with my didgibox to find it?

Sorry to be a pain!

stenen
Apr 17th, 2005, 11:52 AM
Would it automatically be there if we can view ESint in GB? Or would I have to do something with my didgibox to find it?

Sorry to be a pain!

No worries!
It depends on who your service provider is? Some provider have ES Int in their "package" and other you'll have to order as a separate channel, like you do with film channels. There's a shift going on from analog to digital and this makes that things are changing very quickly right now.
If you have a satellite dish then you should be able to find it with right coordinates, depends of course which part of the UK you live. If you have a list of channels or comprehensive TV guide with coordinates will make things much easier.

Erdinger
Apr 17th, 2005, 12:08 PM
Thanks for your insider info, stenen! :cool:

Since ES 2 shows often tennis, I have a question: Why can't I get ES 2 in Germany, although it's spread almost all over Europe? :confused: And when will it be available in Germany? :confused:

Greetings from Germany :wavey:

the_doman
Apr 17th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Please show as much tennis as possible on Eurosport International.

It's extremely annoying to watch tennis (and other sports!) on Eurosport2 with a continuous news banner through the screen!
The only thing we can see without a banner now are the commercials, go figure!
Also because of that the picture is squeezed out of proportion to fit on the screen which is even more degrading the picture!

Please!, they really should stop that nonsense!

Smackie
Apr 17th, 2005, 04:32 PM
Ok...had to make a phone call to check it out. British ES has an hour broadcast of the final at 23.30 hrs GMT.
British ES2 have the same thing at 21.00 hrs GMT.
I'm sorry but no live coverage for British ES of the final. Maybe Brits think that motorsports and fight clubs are more fun. :rolleyes:
If you can receive digital broadcast via cable or satellite you'd be able to get ES Int even in the UK depending of course who your service provider is.

Thanks for the efforts anyway......I am with NTL and they only have BES and ES2, not ES Intl.......

So no live for me then.....

This sucks

Thank again Stenen.

Lapin
Apr 17th, 2005, 10:58 PM
Anyone know what British Eurosport are up to now? :rolleyes: They're supposed to be showing the Charleston final 11.30pm - 12.30am; first they were showing snooker and now it's moto.... :confused: :(

Smackie
Apr 17th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Anyone know what British Eurosport are up to now? :rolleyes: They're supposed to be showing the Charleston final 11.30pm - 12.30am; first they were showing snooker and now it's moto.... :confused: :(

That's what I am thinking too.....I couldn't watch the ES2's repeat at 9:00 as it's not working for some reason (just this channel....just I am not sure if it's NTL or ES2.

Then I got myself ready for the BES repeat...but they are showing Moto....

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:40 AM
Thanks for your insider info, stenen! :cool:

Since ES 2 shows often tennis, I have a question: Why can't I get ES 2 in Germany, although it's spread almost all over Europe? :confused: And when will it be available in Germany? :confused:

Greetings from Germany :wavey:

Hi! It depends on who your service provider is. Also check out if it can be included in a package or if you have to "buy" separately as you often have to do with film channels. Contact your service provider and see if they have it listed as a choice of channels if not I'm sure it will be soon enough.
:wavey:

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:43 AM
Please show as much tennis as possible on Eurosport International.

It's extremely annoying to watch tennis (and other sports!) on Eurosport2 with a continuous news banner through the screen!
The only thing we can see without a banner now are the commercials, go figure!
Also because of that the picture is squeezed out of proportion to fit on the screen which is even more degrading the picture!

Please!, they really should stop that nonsense!

I'm sorry if that banner bothers you but it's likely to stay there on ES2. Those few times that I have watched sports at home on ES2 it hasn't bothered me at all but I suppose I'm so into what I'm watching that I don't even notice it.

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 08:46 AM
That's what I am thinking too.....I couldn't watch the ES2's repeat at 9:00 as it's not working for some reason (just this channel....just I am not sure if it's NTL or ES2.

Then I got myself ready for the BES repeat...but they are showing Moto....


:confused: I wonder what's going on at British ES these days? They wanted a little finger and looks like they've taken the whole hand and do whatever they please. I can understand the anger and frustration because this is rather upsetting way to treat the viewers.

Kelly
Apr 19th, 2005, 11:14 AM
is there a contact email that goes straight to british eurosport big wigs maybe if we complain enough to them they will show the tennis when they are suppose to. thaks for all the info you have been giving us stenen

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 11:23 AM
is there a contact email that goes straight to british eurosport big wigs maybe if we complain enough to them they will show the tennis when they are suppose to. thaks for all the info you have been giving us stenen

You're welcome! :wavey:
I've already emailed some people who are responsible of TV scheduling. However not received anything back. I can put anyone personal email addy on a public board even if I'd like to. Maybe when I leave Eurosport I will. :tape:
To be serious for a moment. This is really bad that they do like that. It makes Eurosport look bad both for viewers but also advertisers. In order to send as much live coverage of any sport we need both viewers and advertisers and this is only going to scare away both.

xan
Apr 19th, 2005, 01:12 PM
There seems to be someone at British Eurosport who doesn't like Women's Tennis and switches in something else whenever he can.

Find this guy - and deal with him!

Lucky I have Eurosport International atm. :D

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 01:21 PM
There seems to be someone at British Eurosport who doesn't like Women's Tennis and switches in something else whenever he can.

Find this guy - and deal with him!



it also could be a woman there who doesn't like women's tennis ;) - so the person you might have to deal with - is her. :lol:

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Eurosport coverage of the French Open this Year(International and British One)

Monday Start 11:00 until 15:00
Then NOTHING
Resume 17:15 through to 21:00


17:15-21:00 is live coverage on ES Intl.
Resume is at 23:00


On the Wednesday
No Tennis from 14:15 to 17:15
Because then it's cycling. TV schedule for ES2 is not completed yet.


Question
1 What is the Point of having Two Channels only to have the same large Gap in the Middle of each Day for Cycling???

TV schedule for ES2 is not completed yet. ES2 might show tennis.


It is frustrating enough to be restricted to Henman only rather than a proper match but to have nothing for three hours in the middle of each day is why Eurosport gets very bad reviews on this site.

I can understand the frustration but tennis is not the only sport Eurosport Int covers and the first week of GS cannot be seen as the only priority. This gap might be covered on ES2 but like I said the schedule for ES2 is not completed yet. This what has been told to me. I'm not responsible of TV schedules I'm just a producer for them and a couple other TV channels. However I think some people's bad reviews are rather strange since there isn't another channel in Europe that covers so much tennis than Eurosport. Also when one sees it with a longer perspective, 10-15 years ago we were able to see even less tennis, only GS tournaments and often just the second week. But as someone said the appetite increases while eating.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 19th, 2005, 04:31 PM
17:15-21:00 is live coverage on ES Intl.
Resume is at 23:00



Because then it's cycling. TV schedule for ES2 is not completed yet.



TV schedule for ES2 is not completed yet. ES2 might show tennis.



I can understand the frustration but tennis is not the only sport Eurosport Int covers and the first week of GS cannot be seen as the only priority. This gap might be covered on ES2 but like I said the schedule for ES2 is not completed yet. This what has been told to me. I'm not responsible of TV schedules I'm just a producer for them and a couple other TV channels. However I think some people's bad reviews are rather strange since there isn't another channel in Europe that covers so much tennis than Eurosport. Also when one sees it with a longer perspective, 10-15 years ago we were able to see even less tennis, only GS tournaments and often just the second week. But as someone said the appetite increases while eating.

The thing is that on Brit ES
they say they are contactually bound to show the Giro
but when Henman is playing at same time as the Giro, what happens to that contact :confused: :confused: :rolleyes:

and then why show taped Giro after his match :o
double disaster :rolleyes:

Petersmiler
Apr 19th, 2005, 04:35 PM
Stenen

I just wanted to say that I for one am very happy with the coverage ES and ES2 give to tennis, if it wasn't for you (them!) I'd only get to see wimbledon!

And as for that info tape, I agree, I never really notice it!

I do get annoyed with ES GB sometimes, but I've seen so much all ready this year!

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 04:47 PM
Stenen

I just wanted to say that I for one am very happy with the coverage ES and ES2 give to tennis, if it wasn't for you (them!) I'd only get to see wimbledon!

And as for that info tape, I agree, I never really notice it!

I do get annoyed with ES GB sometimes, but I've seen so much all ready this year!

Thank you for your kind words. I definitely can't take the whole credit for ES showing tennis since I'm just a one person among many others who make it happen, especially viewers and advertisers...aaah not to mention all those wonderful players who bust their butts on court keeping us entertained.
I just don't love tennis and therefore I think that other sports should also get their fair share. When RG is on it's summer if you don't want to watch cycling for a couple hours, go out, take a walk and enjoy the summer. There's more to life than tennis.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 19th, 2005, 04:50 PM
why not make the Giro finish one week earlier
problem solved.

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 04:56 PM
why not make the Giro finish one week earlier
problem solved.

I'm sure you can write to International Cycling Association or whatver it's called and tell your opinions. ;)

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 19th, 2005, 04:57 PM
I'm sure you can write to International Cycling Association or whatver it's called and tell your opinions. ;)

just say we wont show it on ES and i'm sure they will see reason :devil:

stenen
Apr 19th, 2005, 05:26 PM
TV schedule for ES2 is not completed yet. ES2 might show tennis.

Looks Pretty Complete to me....



Looks is the word. Doesn't mean this will be the definite schedule and probably isn't either.

suzie
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:45 PM
There's more to life than tennis.
Ditto! :worship:
No complains for Eurosport's tennis coverage, I just want my cable provider to make Eurosport 2 available for me! :p

Smackie
Apr 19th, 2005, 11:47 PM
With which company do you get Eurosport International? NTL don't do....

I supposed ES are not too bad, at least they cover tennis the most. With Bees, you only get Henman and majors finals. With Sky, you only get ATPs and some majors - and you have to pay for it.

I think we were spolit in the last couple of years.....now ES has slightly less coverage, we feel 'let down'.

Scheduling has never been there strong pont though. Not just now.

stenen
Apr 23rd, 2005, 11:23 PM
What we need is to put on Roland Garros on ES 2 when Giro D'Italia is on ES1 at that time.


ES2 won't broadcast RG live. It would have been nice but it won't happen, not this year anyway. Sorry.

Kelly
Apr 24th, 2005, 11:03 AM
so why cant ES2 just show the giro and have ES1 dedicated to the french open?

maybe in 5 years or so europe will have the tennis channel...lol...maybe not

stenen
Apr 24th, 2005, 11:14 AM
so why cant ES2 just show the giro and have ES1 dedicated to the french open?

It's a TV-rights thing.

Joana
Apr 24th, 2005, 12:46 PM
I was really afraid that Giro will be on ES1 and Roland Garros on ES2. But it's not happening, right? Right? Right? :p :D

TomTennis
Apr 24th, 2005, 03:22 PM
anyone from UK know if SkySports are showing any fed cup. Obviously they wont show this roundlive, but they usually have an hour show mid week after the tie that shows highlights from the ties....?? anyone know. I want to see Venus...

anyone help?

Kelly
Apr 24th, 2005, 10:35 PM
i think they are showing highlights on wednesday....but dont hold me to it. i cant be arsed checking the sky guide as the remote isnt next to me and i cant be arsed movin to get it lol..

Lady
Apr 29th, 2005, 07:38 PM
I just read on ES website that ES won't show Mens Year Ending Masters this year?? :eek:
It's just soooooooooo bad!!! :sad:

Where has all mens tennis gone??
Not even Barcelona was shown this year??

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 29th, 2005, 07:41 PM
I just read on ES website that ES won't show Mens Year Ending Masters this year?? :eek:
It's just soooooooooo bad!!! :sad:

Where has all mens tennis gone??
Not even Barcelona was shown this year??

sorry for you lady
but i'm glad in UK we'll be getting it on Sky.

at least they wont cancel it to show tractor pulling :rolleyes:
last yr was horrible with all the rain delays and they couldnt be bothered to show it :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (only showed about 3 live matches i think out of 15)

Joana
Apr 29th, 2005, 07:43 PM
Is it just me or we've had a LOT more snooker coverage this year than ever before?

GoDominique
Apr 29th, 2005, 07:44 PM
Is it just me or we've had a LOT more snooker coverage this year than ever before?
Yes, that's because it is a real hit in Germany. :eek: