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mr_zebra
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:53 PM
With Venus being the only real threat to Lindsay's game let's just have the ceremony now and not waste time.

Who's gonna beat Lindsay ?
She's gonna *crush* Elena D's serve. JHH is too raw right now. Golovin ? Asogoe ?
Congrat's on Clay title two in two weeks !

abcd155
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:54 PM
Please don't jinx her :tape:

kabuki
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:55 PM
Jinxer.

sartrista7
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:56 PM
I think the majority of players left in the draw have a decent shot at beating Davenport.

Especially the one who beat her in a green clay final two years ago. :)

No Name Face
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:56 PM
yeah right, LD is good, but I don't think she's definitely going to wint his tournament...not by a long shot.

her odds increased. i see a Lindsay/LenaD final...with Lena winning, not because of favoritism, but because Lena is better on clay...AND she beat Lindsay in a final on green clay already.

RenaSlam.
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:57 PM
I hope Lindsay takes the title. GO LINDSAY!

Pengwin
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:59 PM
Davenport is the only player that can win FCC. It's her's to lose, and I can't see anything stopping her.

abcd155
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:02 PM
It is Lindsay's to take. The only player i think she'll have trouble with is Justine. That'll be a great match. Elena......im not sure. Lindsay is the better player and the last time couple times they've played...Lindsay's thrashed her. Depends on which Lena shows up.

mr_zebra
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:06 PM
Dude, that was 2 years ago, before Lindsay went on a WTA rampage. She was about to retire. She's a different player now.

It will Davenport vs Dementieva final, with Davenport crushing her.

lizchris
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:07 PM
The only two players who are a threat to her are Venus and Justine. Venus lost and Justine is playing right now (BTW, I think she will win).

kabuki
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:08 PM
If Tati continues to play well, she could trouble Linds.

Asmus
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:11 PM
Henin-Hardenne, Dementieva and Schnyder could all give Lindsay problems. Patty beat Lindsay in Charleston last year and in a Tier I final in Zurich in 2002 so she definitely has a chance.

RenaSlam.
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:14 PM
Davenport has too much game even on clay for ALL the players left. Justine is rusty, and Lindsay is going to overpower the shit out of her. Can't wait to see it. :)

JustineTime
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:15 PM
With Venus being the only real threat to Lindsay's game let's just have the ceremony now and not waste time.

Nahhh! Patty Schnyder's in like Flynn! :yeah:

Who's gonna beat Lindsay ?
JHH is too raw right now.
Congrat's on Clay title two in two weeks !

Lindsay's gonna beat Justine on the dirt?! :eek:

We'll see...;)

I'm just looking forward(hopefully not too soon! :o ) to watching a doozy of a match! :drool:

:bounce:

RAA
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:15 PM
I think justine could beat her.. ... I know she is rusty but .. its CLAY.

anyway, I hope lindsay wins cuz she is playing awesome!

Jakeev
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:16 PM
With Venus being the only real threat to Lindsay's game let's just have the ceremony now and not waste time.

Who's gonna beat Lindsay ?
She's gonna *crush* Elena D's serve. JHH is too raw right now. Golovin ? Asogoe ?
Congrat's on Clay title two in two weeks !

I don't think Linds has a free ride to the final at all. Justine could be a major factor if she gets to her sixth final or not.

Yeah Justine is struggling to find her way, but when you have beaten a player a few times, that can give you the confidence to actually win a match.

It happened to Kim Clijsters at Indian Wells and it could very well happen against Lindsay if Justine beats Benesova today.

Tati & Dani
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:26 PM
if davenport beats henin in the quarter-finals then she win the tournament to

volta
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:27 PM
I hope Lindsay takes the title. GO LINDSAY!
me 2 :worship:

bis2806
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:29 PM
yeah, please don't jinx her!

lindsayno1
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:20 PM
Lindsays bitchslapped the wta this last year or so with her play! Shes amazing. i dont think she will have problems with justine. her match stats have sucked majorly and her 1st serve percentage has sucked

Lady
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Lindsays bitchslapped the wta this last year or so with her play! Shes amazing. i dont think she will have problems with justine. her match stats have sucked majorly and her 1st serve percentage has sucked

Yeah, she just sucks, we got it!

spike83
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Dementieva still has a chance, her serve has improved a lot according to the commentators, and she has the advantage that she beat lindsay 2 times on clay :-)

skanky~skanketta
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:25 PM
Lindsays bitchslapped the wta this last year or so with her play! Shes amazing. i dont think she will have problems with justine. her match stats have sucked majorly and her 1st serve percentage has sucked

well, i hope justine beats her nonetheless.

lindsayno1
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:27 PM
lol well ur entitled to your opinion. heart and head stuff! Lol

Kart
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:28 PM
Why do we have to give it to Lindsay ?

I'd happily take it - well the paycheck anyway.

G1Player2
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:29 PM
I can't someone came up with this thead...There are plenty of people on green clay who can beat Davenport...JHH actually played great today and she has beaten LD the last few times they have played and NONE were on clay...JHH may be a little rusty, but IMO, I think JHH would be a slight favorite going into that match...

Paldias
Apr 14th, 2005, 11:13 PM
I definetely agree.......Davenport's gonna steamroll to the end :) Happy for her though, if it's not Venus (which it can't be) :p

WorldWar24
Apr 14th, 2005, 11:18 PM
Oh right, Schnyder doesn't have a chance. Erm didn't she beat Davenport 6-1 6-3 this very tournament last year?

Mrs. Peel
Apr 14th, 2005, 11:24 PM
Did Davey play this tournament last year? If she wins will she hold onto #1 through the French?

Robbie.
Apr 14th, 2005, 11:52 PM
I hate these threads. The last two I've seen of this nature were "hand the trophy to capriati" at both Roland Garros and Flushing Meadows and look what happened there :sad:

I'm a huge Lindsay fan, but I must admit I am fucking scared of Justine in the next round and everyone should be. Under normal circumstances Justine would be a heavy favourite on clay and though she is a little rusty I think she can still give Lindsay fits depending on how she plays on the day. The big factor is really Justine and how many errors she makes. Low errors, big trouble for LD.

If she gets through that then you have to say she has a big chance at the title, though Schnyder and Dementieva are hardly clay court pushovers. But I think that now this thread has been started she pretty much has no chance.

Hingiswinsthis
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:00 AM
nah, it's still too early for Justine to be winning these kind of matches. This is only what, her 7th or 8th match of the year? Send her over to the red clay in Europe and then we'll talk. She'll be ready by then. Advantage in the Quarters: Davenport. FCC is hers to lose.

-Sonic-
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:11 AM
Lindsay is one of those players who has a great chance to win any tournament, but its never set in stone. In my head, I always nearly see Serena as a winner of a tournament. I don't have that with Linds, she's less invincible in my head.

Claudine Schaul anyone?

clonesheep
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:11 AM
People talk about how dominant Davenport is, but her head-2-head against the Belgians is 0-10 in the last 10 matches (4 against Henin, 6 against Clijsters) they played. She is owned by the Belgians. Even though Henin is not 100%, she has the mental edge so I say tomorrow's quarterfinal will be 50/50. Go Justine!

Stamp Paid
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:25 AM
You considered Venus LD's main threat to the title, despite the fact that shes lost to her the last 4 times?

And yeah, her beating Elena on Clay especially is really a given. :rolleyes:

selking
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:27 AM
yeah right, LD is good, but I don't think she's definitely going to wint his tournament...not by a long shot.

her odds increased. i see a Lindsay/LenaD final...with Lena winning, not because of favoritism, but because Lena is better on clay...AND she beat Lindsay in a final on green clay already.

Stop living in the clods... lena D will be no where near any final for a long time

Zippy
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:30 AM
nah, it's still too early for Justine to be winning these kind of matches.
What type of fudging retarded statement is that? :tape:

Damn, have we forgotten that JuJu is a Champion. Not to mentioned that she has owned Lindsay as of late. Oh no, I forgot, that was 2004. Yeah, I guess you felt the same about Kim before she continued her OWNAGE, oops I mean beat Lindsay to win IW. :rolleyes:

Zippy
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:39 AM
Davenport has too much game even on clay for ALL the players left. Justine is rusty, and Lindsay is going to overpower the shit out of her. Can't wait to see it. :)
Rightttt....the same way she always has :rolleyes:

Maybe if they were in an arm wrestling match where power was the ONLY viable aspect, I'd be concerned. ;)
:wavey:

G1Player2
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:41 AM
What type of fudging retarded statement is that? :tape:

Damn, have we forgotten that JuJu is a Champion. Not to mentioned that she has owned Lindsay as of late. Oh no, I forgot, that was 2004. Yeah, I guess you felt the same about Kim before she continued her OWNAGE, oops I mean beat Lindsay to win IW. :rolleyes:

:worship: :worship: :worship:

turt
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:52 AM
What type of fudging retarded statement is that? :tape:

Damn, have we forgotten that JuJu is a Champion. Not to mentioned that she has owned Lindsay as of late. Oh no, I forgot, that was 2004. Yeah, I guess you felt the same about Kim before she continued her OWNAGE, oops I mean beat Lindsay to win IW. :rolleyes:
:wavey:

UDiTY
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:53 AM
I think JHH should give Lindsay a run for her money on the dirt. She's beaten Lindsay the last few times they've played so she should have some confidence.

Elena beat Lindsay last year at the FO and like others said in the final two years ago, so she should be able to stand up to Davey on clay.

:cool:

No Name Face
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:02 AM
Stop living in the clods... lena D will be no where near any final for a long time

because her lowest showing at a tier 1 this year is a quarterfinal...yeah i'm in the clouds, buddy :rolleyes:

selesfan
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:23 AM
I think justine could beat her.. ... I know she is rusty but .. its CLAY.

anyway, I hope lindsay wins cuz she is playing awesome!

I agree, Lindsay always has a hard time against Justine and the clay will favor Justine

Zippy
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:28 AM
I agree, Lindsay always has a hard time against Justine and the clay will favor Justine
I agree. Especially since the last 3 times that met were on hard courts (Lindsay's fav surface), and we all know what happened there ;)

xan
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:29 AM
Lindsay has looked pretty dominant recently. But all her big wins have been on hard courts. Clay may change things a little.

pav
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:42 AM
Isn't Petrova still in? I'm not Her biggest Fan in the World,but She can trouble Anyone if Her Head and Game are in gear!

SzavayFi
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:45 AM
mr zebra :o please stop making stupid threads. you watch, lena d will win ;)

selking
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:46 AM
because her lowest showing at a tier 1 this year is a quarterfinal...yeah i'm in the clouds, buddy :rolleyes:

She is playing like shit right now and has no chance againt anyone near davenport quality

Zippy
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:58 AM
She is playing like shit right now and has no chance against anyone near Davenport quality
Well that's your opinion buddy. Thankfully the match is now set. I guess we'll see tomorrow. ;)

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:00 AM
With Venus being the only real threat to Lindsay's game let's just have the ceremony now and not waste time.

Who's gonna beat Lindsay ?
She's gonna *crush* Elena D's serve. JHH is too raw right now. Golovin ? Asogoe ?
Congrat's on Clay title two in two weeks !

That's what I said at the US Open. Lindsay's quite adept at finding ways to lose to people she should crush...:tape: (just ask Sveta:o )

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:02 AM
Lindsay has looked pretty dominant recently. But all her big wins have been on hard courts. Clay may change things a little.

Green clay is closer in condition to a hardcourt than to red clay:o .

Junex
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:05 AM
As much as i love Lindsay but i hav to give this thread a big :tape:

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:08 AM
yeah right, LD is good, but I don't think she's definitely going to wint his tournament...not by a long shot.

her odds increased. i see a Lindsay/LenaD final...with Lena winning, not because of favoritism, but because Lena is better on clay...AND she beat Lindsay in a final on green clay already.

Sorry, not going to happen. Lena D. might be in the final (but so might Vaidisova and Schnyder,) but Lindsay's not going to be threatened by Lena. LD choked away that AI title, and Dementieva was absolutely in the zone for the last two sets. It is possible for her to get into the zone again in the hypothetical final, but I doubt it, and, when both are playing as well as they normally do, Davenport wins, and Davenport plays well more often than Dementieva plays well. Elena could win it, but the odds favor Davenport.

Henin-Hardenne is a different story. See, Lindsay's game matches up well against the Russians. They all hit hard, but Lindsay doesn't miss, and none of the Russians possess the angles and variety needed to expose Davenport's movement. Justine does and Patty Schnyder does. Those are Davenport's challengers to this title, and, as Schnyder is not getting by Dementieva (bad match up for her,) Juju is the one who is most likely to beat Davvy.

Prizeidiot
Apr 15th, 2005, 08:54 AM
It's true that Lindsay's chances have increased, but there is no way on earth she is a sure thing. There are still players left, and Lindsay's record in big finals has not been so good of late.

A lot of people seem to be of the impression that the whole draw is full of gumps. Yes, Venus lost, but then wouldn't that mean the person who beat her would be playing half decently? Tati is a very good player.

Vaidisova is another young one who could give Lindsay trouble. From what I hear, has a pretty big game. Against Lindsay, she would have no pressure, and if she just goes for everything and it pays off, anything could happen.

Elena is improving her serve, so Lindsay might not be able to beat up on it as much as she would like if that match eventuated. Elena is ranked number 5 at the moment, which means she's no pushover, and don't tell me Lindsay is going to completely overpower her in groundstroke rallies. And she has shown she can beat Lindsay.

Patty is another very good clay court player. If she plays her best, she would be able to annoy Lindsay with the loops and the slices, bearing in mind that Lindsay likes rhythm. Also, Patty uses angles very well, meaning she can make Lindsay move, which is the chink in the Davenport armour. And as someone mentioned before, it was here last year that Patty gave Lindsay a caning.

Of course, there is also the most immediate threat, Justine. People say she can't play well this soon after her comeback. Two words. Kim Clijsters. Justine is a great player, I wouldn't put anything past her. She owns Lindsay in recent head to heads. The surface suits her.

This tournament is not over

G1Player2
Apr 15th, 2005, 09:01 AM
Sorry, not going to happen. Lena D. might be in the final (but so might Vaidisova and Schnyder,) but Lindsay's not going to be threatened by Lena. LD choked away that AI title, and Dementieva was absolutely in the zone for the last two sets. It is possible for her to get into the zone again in the hypothetical final, but I doubt it, and, when both are playing as well as they normally do, Davenport wins, and Davenport plays well more often than Dementieva plays well. Elena could win it, but the odds favor Davenport.

Henin-Hardenne is a different story. See, Lindsay's game matches up well against the Russians. They all hit hard, but Lindsay doesn't miss, and none of the Russians possess the angles and variety needed to expose Davenport's movement. Justine does and Patty Schnyder does. Those are Davenport's challengers to this title, and, as Schnyder is not getting by Dementieva (bad match up for her,) Juju is the one who is most likely to beat Davvy.

This is true but remember Elena D. was in the "zone" when she beat LD 6-1, 6-3 at last year's French Open...

Shonami Slam
Apr 15th, 2005, 09:03 AM
petrova will kick lindsay's ass, yeah, of course, i am not delusioning myself, because petrova did not lose to lindsay last week and is not a mental wreck at all.
:rolleyes:
please petrova?

Jakeev
Apr 15th, 2005, 09:12 AM
What could be Lindsay's biggest advantage is that supposedly the clay courts in Charleston are faster than they have been in years past.

This may not bode well for Henin Hardenne who is still trying to find her match toughness.

If Lindsay is allowed to dictate the points, it will be over for Justine. But if Justine can mix it up and hope Lindsay is having a bad day, it could be another big win for her over the American.

mr_zebra
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:38 PM
mr zebra :o please stop making stupid threads.

I will. When you stop entering them and reading two pages worth of replies.
:cool:

LiliaLee-Frazier
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:55 PM
Lindsay is definetly the odds on favorite...but don't be so cocky as DAV has a record of late of cutting it almost tooooooooooo close with players she is heavily favored to win against in the later rds...For Example...Dechy( semis at AO ) and Sylvia just last week.
I also think that Elena, Patty and Justine have a slim but nice chance of causing an upset...i will still go with Lindsay though...but i am by no means 100% sure if this....patty patty :angel: :drool:

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:22 PM
yeah right, LD is good, but I don't think she's definitely going to wint his tournament...not by a long shot.

her odds increased. i see a Lindsay/LenaD final...with Lena winning, not because of favoritism, but because Lena is better on clay...AND she beat Lindsay in a final on green clay already.

Lindsay has played pretty good. She's moving well. Her serve is aiight. She's hitting good. Dementieva on the other hand. Her serve is the best I think I've ever seen. Her groundstrokes are looking really really good too. She isn't even practicing a lot either. She goes on the practice courts for 30 minutes each day and does some footwork exercises. That's it.

Kelly
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:31 PM
lindsay's doing ok......im gonna say she is a cert as i know what lindsay is like...i mean us lindsay fans thought strasbourg was gonna be a cert...lol. all i want for now is to beat henin...we'll take it from there

Steffica Greles
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:36 PM
I wouldn't underestimate Henin. Sure Davenport is favourite, as she was against Clijsters in Indian Wells, but against Kim memories of all those stinging losses came back to haunt Davenport. She suffered several stinging losses to Henin in 2003, also.

If Henin can hang in there and snatch a tight second set, I think she's in with a chance and her shots will suddenly come back. In those situations, when put under pressure, Lindsay is useless.

Further on, Dementieva beat Davenport in the final of Amelia Island 2 years ago. She gives Lindsay genuine problems on slow surfaces, and I would actually give Elena on clay the edge over Lindsay.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:44 PM
I wouldn't underestimate Henin. Sure Davenport is favourite, as she was against Clijsters in Indian Wells, but against Kim memories of all those stinging losses came back to haunt Davenport. She suffered several stinging losses to Henin in 2003, also.

If Henin can hang in there and snatch a tight second set, I think she's in with a chance and her shots will suddenly come back. In those situations, when put under pressure, Lindsay is useless.

Further on, Dementieva beat Davenport in the final of Amelia Island 2 years ago. She gives Lindsay genuine problems on slow surfaces, and I would actually give Elena on clay the edge over Lindsay.

I wouldn't even go that far. Srebotnik is playing really really good. She's using all her experience of doubles on the court. She has a slim chance against Dementieva. She had to get Dementieva moving and make the volleys at net to be a big threat. She's been playing smart high-percentage tennis. Using what she has to the best of her abilities. She'll have to make this match a chess match to win.

Chunchun
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:57 PM
:rolleyes: LenaD will stop her

DEETHELICK
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:42 PM
To me, Lindsay isn't the favourite for this tournament. On clay, I don't think Lindsay has the staying power mentally and maybe even physically for 2 straight weeks in these kind of big draws.

I have a feeling Justine will take her out. And I'm not being biased.

If I'm proved wrong, we have clay court expert Patty (who beat Amelie, Mary, Serena and Jen back to back) and powerful and explosive ElenaD. They both have weapons to take down Lindsay.

And BTW, Linday winning in finals is still no sure thing. AO and IW proved that IMO.

Lets just enjoy the tournament and see how it pans out. Maybe Srebotnik might suprise us all.

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:44 PM
To me, Lindsay isn't the favourite for this tournament. On clay, I don't think Lindsay has the staying power mentally and maybe even physically for 2 straight weeks in these kind of big draws.

I have a feeling Justine will take her out. And I'm not being biased.

If I'm proved wrong, we have clay court expert Patty (who beat Amelie, Mary, Serena and Jen back to back) and powerful and explosive ElenaD. They both have weapons to take down Lindsay.

And BTW, Linday winning in finals is still no sure thing. AO and IW proved that IMO.

Lets just enjoy the tournament and see how it pans out. Maybe Srebotnik might suprise us all.

I feel Lena D is a fave right now!
And I certainly not biased! :D

Although I have hopes for Ju! :)

vogus
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:50 PM
i might as well add one more reply to this TROLL thread.

nice TROLL job Zebra - 60 responses and counting.

jj74
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:02 PM
Lidsay is a great player but her weakness are more clear on clay, if she is on she could win the tournament but i think there are some players in the draw who could stop her

Dementinator
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:37 PM
Nothing is ever certain ,EVER , anyone of the remaining players has a chance ,it just needs one of the top players to make a mistake and its over.

Linds also has one other problem that sometimes materialises ,a bad bout of "Cant be Assed-itis" when she simply droops the shoulders and gives up making it all look such heavy going ,if shes on fire ,yes ,she will prob win ,but she is not always "on fire" and has lost many matches she shoulda won ,just like a lot of other players out there.

We wait and see...

brunof
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:12 PM
Give me 98 or 99 back please. :tape:

DiZZiA
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:16 PM
I see Justine beating Lindsay in QF!!!!

harloo
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:23 PM
I wouldn't hand Lindsay anything until she wins match point in the finals.

mr_zebra
Apr 15th, 2005, 06:07 PM
i might as well add one more reply to this TROLL thread.

Unlike you, i tend to NOT click in what i think is a 'troll thread', let alone reply to them!
thanks for the boost i guess
;)

miffedmax
Apr 15th, 2005, 08:17 PM
Well, NOW we know, don't we?

Tati & Dani
Apr 15th, 2005, 08:20 PM
tati or justine must win this tournament now or nicole :bounce:

Dementieva-fan
Apr 15th, 2005, 08:21 PM
haha........you....!!! That's because you didn't shut your mouth!! Davenport is sooooo OUT!!

abcd155
Apr 15th, 2005, 09:43 PM
:lol: the maturity of some people.....

lindsayno1
Apr 16th, 2005, 08:51 PM
justine didnt exactly 'beat' davenport thou! lindsay hobbled off court!