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FERLKE
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:51 PM
I chose Golovin :hearts: :kiss: :bounce:

RenaSlam.
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Golovin has been a fav. of mine since last year in February. In the long run, I think Ivanovic. Tati would beat Vaidisova right now though.

CooCooCachoo
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:52 PM
Vaidisova, but hopefully Ivanovic.

kabuki
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:52 PM
They are all talented and fun to watch! :)

No Name Face
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Ivanovic

creepy stalker
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:54 PM
how many more threads like this we are going to have? three of them are future stars but right now, the rank says golovin. case closed.

Joana
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:58 PM
Ana Ivanovic. Not that I'm biased. :angel:

Havok
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:00 PM
Although Ana and Nicole have won titles, I pick Golovin. I would say Golovin, Ivanovic, then Vaidisova. All three are fabulous players though, hopefully they'll do great things in the future.

FERLKE
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:01 PM
how many more threads like this we are going to have? three of them are future stars but right now, the rank says golovin. case closed.
If you don't like this thread don't post here bitch :mad: !!!!! bye!!!!!!!!!! :wavey:

Tati & Dani
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:30 PM
it's so difficult to say, i can't decide , so i vote for my fave of the 3

Golovin

Jenny.C.Fan
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:01 PM
Ana :)

Lemonskin.
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:12 PM
I like Tati and Nicole. I dislike Ana.

-Kieron-
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Ana will be the better player, but Tati right now.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:25 PM
Ivanovic, Golovin and then Vaidisova!!

Martian Jeza
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:44 PM
I like Tati and Nicole. I dislike Ana.

:silly: :p

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:45 PM
After Sharapova... they are all following my favorites... and not biased.. but Vaidisova is the one with the most future...

Mrs. Peel
Apr 14th, 2005, 10:02 PM
They are all talented and fun to watch! :)

true

but I will say Ivanovic ( I no longer have her confused with Kostanic or Jidkova :lol: )

Derek.
Apr 14th, 2005, 10:07 PM
Ivanovic :) She has wins over both. ;)

©@®eLess
Apr 14th, 2005, 10:13 PM
Ivanovic :) She has wins over both. ;)


Just what i wanted to say :)

10nisfanofruz
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:12 AM
Vadisova's serve is the best of all three. She seems to be Sharapovalike. Anyway, time will tell. ;)

bmxbandit
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Didn't Ana whoop both other player's asses recently?

Greenout
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:02 AM
One thing I like about this trio, is that they do not look alike,
have the same personality nor playing style. You can't mistake
one from the other. Sure, they all like hitting hard; but there
is a difference. Tati is more all court, and a backcourt hitter.
Ana is more of the Lindsay type with clean tall hitting without
much noise or fuss. Nicole is more Americanized; but she's no
goody two-shoes Bolliteri graduate.

I hope for their sake that people lay off the Maria comparisons
because they're already distinct in character.

selesbooz
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:07 AM
Ivanovic, i was not impressed with what i saw in Miami against Mauresmo, but she is clearly better then the other two. Tati should not be included, that old french ho has been around for some time.

what happen to that little rat Sesil????

ezekiel
Apr 15th, 2005, 02:36 AM
Ivanovic, i was not impressed with what i saw in Miami against Mauresmo, but she is clearly better then the other two. Tati should not be included, that old french ho has been around for some time.

what happen to that little rat Sesil????

:rolleyes:

Scotso
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:01 AM
Golovin obviously now, but Nicole will be the best of them.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:06 AM
1. Nicole--she has the best instincts. Her serve is huge and her groundstrokes very solid and hard. She also knows her strengths and weaknesses very well, which is impressive.

2. Ivanovic--Her groundstrokes are sooo good, and she has a good attitude. I wrote her off until I saw her play vs. Mauresmo. She'll be a top ten player for sure, but Nicole will be an all time great.

Big Gap

3. Tatiana Golovin--Golovin has no weapons. Nicole has three consistent ways to hurt opponents, and, even on clay where she's not comfortable, she can get them working well enough to beat top ten players. Ana has two huge groudstroke weapons. Yes Tati moves better than both of them, but good movers without weapons peak between 11 and 20.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:11 AM
Ivanovic :) She has wins over both. ;)

she's also two years older than Vaidisova with half the accomplishments:o . What's up with this board's obsession with Ana Ivanovic?:o I mean, she's great and all, but Maria won Wimbledon at her age.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:12 AM
Didn't Ana whoop both other player's asses recently?

Vaidisova barely lost to her, but Vaidisova's also two years younger. Both have beaten Golovin, but Golovin really shouldn't be in this. She's great to have on your Fantasy team because she beats everyone she's supposed to, but she isn't a Sharpie, Vaidisova or Ivanovic.

selyoink
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:18 AM
Golovin is the only one I've seen multiple times so I'd have to say she will be the best. I have never seen Vaidisova so I don't have a very good idea of her game. Only seen a little of Ivanovic so again not to sure about her game.

..ikke..
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:19 AM
Nicole
She's only 15 :eek: and playing very very well

Chunchun
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:22 AM
Nicky :rocker2:

Sharapova's_Boy
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:35 AM
I'd say Golovin, Ivanovic, Vaidisova at the moment.

Although in a few years time, it will be Vaidisova, Ivanovic, Golovin.

:yeah:

ezekiel
Apr 15th, 2005, 06:01 AM
I am biased and I don't hide it :devil: but I really didn't see the other two so I can't judge but I would be thrilled if they developed some type of rivalry. But please for all of you saying Ana is already 17 , just remember she is on the tour only couple of months since she played and won challengers before that .

F-R-E-A-K
Apr 15th, 2005, 06:54 AM
Golovin is a fave of mine :kiss:

I havent seen Ana I play yet :(

Nicole V - After last weeks loss to Ivanovic, she's my least favourite out of the 3.

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 07:32 AM
she's also two years older than Vaidisova with half the accomplishments:o . What's up with this board's obsession with Ana Ivanovic?:o I mean, she's great and all, but Maria won Wimbledon at her age.

So what? :rolleyes:
Ana is great, and people see it!

What's up with this board's obsession to judge who people should like or think who's the best! :o

(Just replying to mboyle, not actually meaning that the whole board is like that :secret: )

Prizeidiot
Apr 15th, 2005, 08:26 AM
At this point, Golovin - she's the top 20 player. Ivanovic second, then Vaidisova third. All pretty close though.

Stamp Paid
Apr 15th, 2005, 08:50 AM
she's also two years older than Vaidisova with half the accomplishments:o . What's up with this board's obsession with Ana Ivanovic?:o I mean, she's great and all, but Maria won Wimbledon at her age.

Sorry, but everyone is not a whore for the players with the greatest accomplishments...You can like someone for ther tennis, and not necessarily their potential to be great.

Buitenzorg
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Golovin

ivanovic
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:06 AM
ANA HAS

THE FOCUS OF A WORLD NO.1 PLAYER :angel:

SHE'S PROVEN THIS BY WINNING SO MANY MATCHES AFTER LOSING FIRST SET OR BEING DOWN. :worship:

UNLIKE GOLOVIN AND VAIDSOVA SHE PLAYS SMART, PRECISE SHOT MAKING. (NOT THAT MINDLESS KICKING THE CRAP OUT OF THE BALL PLAY :o ) (she only does that sometimes :tape: )

SHE HAS GOOD COACHES SHARES THE SAME FITTNES COACH WITH FEDERER :eek:

SHE'S KICKED BOTH OF THEIR BUTTS :lol: :lol:

SHE's ALSO BETTER IN THE LOOKS DEPARTMENT :kiss: :hearts: :drool: (when vaidsova pulls a face during a shot she looks like a 95 yr old lady :lol: )

SHE's LEADING THE POLL ABOVE :cool:

Who is better = Ana Ivanovic

just face it :lick:

Dasha_
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:07 AM
I think Ivanovic.
She has best results over the Top 20 players so far, I belive.
And best win loss record:

Ivanovic Ana
born November 6, 1987
ranking 36
win loss record ytd 20-5, career 69-15
titles ytd 1 career 1
pro since 2003

Nicole Vaidisova
born April 23, 1989
ranking 49
win loss record ytd 11-5, career 46-13
titles ytd 0 career 2
pro since 2004

Tatiana Golovin
born January 25, 1988
ranking 25
win loss record ytd 13-7, career 70-36
titles ytd 0 career 0
pro since 2002

Dasha_
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:12 AM
she's also two years older than Vaidisova with half the accomplishments:o . What's up with this board's obsession with Ana Ivanovic?:o I mean, she's great and all, but Maria won Wimbledon at her age.

sharapova will not be "just 17" in couple days :nerner: , and ANA WILL BE 17 ON 3 MORE GS THIS YEAR (Wimbledon included) !!!! :bounce: So wait untill those 3 GS are over, or she turns 18, and then start with those malicious comments !!!

SpikeyAidanm
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:54 AM
Ivanovic has the game to be No 1, Vaidisova can crack under pressure and Golovin, solid top 10 but not top 5 IMO.

ozfan44
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:02 PM
ANA HAS

THE FOCUS OF A WORLD NO.1 PLAYER :angel:

SHE'S PROVEN THIS BY WINNING SO MANY MATCHES AFTER LOSING FIRST SET OR BEING DOWN. :worship:

UNLIKE GOLOVIN AND VAIDSOVA SHE PLAYS SMART, PRECISE SHOT MAKING. (NOT THAT MINDLESS KICKING THE CRAP OUT OF THE BALL PLAY :o ) (she only does that sometimes :tape: )

SHE HAS GOOD COACHES SHARES THE SAME FITTNES COACH WITH FEDERER :eek:

SHE'S KICKED BOTH OF THEIR BUTTS :lol: :lol:

SHE's ALSO BETTER IN THE LOOKS DEPARTMENT :kiss: :hearts: :drool: (when vaidsova pulls a face during a shot she looks like a 95 yr old lady :lol: )

SHE's LEADING THE POLL ABOVE :cool:

Who is better = Ana Ivanovic

just face it :lick:

agreed 110%

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:29 PM
Ivanovic has the game to be No 1, Vaidisova can crack under pressure and Golovin, solid top 10 but not top 5 IMO.

Agreed! ;)

suzie
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:32 PM
I voted Ana because it's my feeling that she'll be a top player, though I have to admit that Nicole's game and attitude is also impressive. The one I don't see doing that good, even if she is a great player is Tatiana. I believe only the future will bring us the right answer! :p

**Jelica**
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:59 PM
Not taking age or anything into account, I think Ana's the best by far, considering she's took Mauresmo to 3 sets this year and beated Kuznetsova in straight sets. Also, you know I really wish ppl would stop saying "Ana's not good cos Maria Sharapova won Wimbledon at the same age" cos to me that just doesn't make sense. So Maria won Wimbledon when she was 17, that doesn';t make Ana's achievements any the less!

Lady
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:12 PM
Not taking age or anything into account, I think Ana's the best by far, considering she's took Mauresmo to 3 sets this year and beated Kuznetsova in straight sets. Also, you know I really wish ppl would stop saying "Ana's not good cos Maria Sharapova won Wimbledon at the same age" cos to me that just doesn't make sense. So Maria won Wimbledon when she was 17, that doesn';t make Ana's achievements any the less!

Agree, only she beat Sveta in 3 tough, very tough sets! ;)

Joana
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:03 PM
she's also two years older than Vaidisova with half the accomplishments:o . What's up with this board's obsession with Ana Ivanovic?:o I mean, she's great and all, but Maria won Wimbledon at her age.

Justine hadn't won a Slam by the time she was 17. Neither had Lindsay and Venus. Clijsters and Mauresmo haven't won a Slam yet. I am not saying that Ana's career will be like theirs because I can't know that, but writing off a player just because she didn't win a Slam as a teenager is a bit silly to say the least.

Half the accomplishments? :haha:
Yeah right, she has one tier V title less. And one tier I QF more.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Ivanovic has the game to be No 1, Vaidisova can crack under pressure and Golovin, solid top 10 but not top 5 IMO.

When has Nikki cracked under pressure? That's right, she hasn't.

KV
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:31 PM
Would go for N. Vaidisova. As well she's younger than Ana & Tati.

BK4ever
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:36 PM
I don't really like these types of comparisons as players are not all groomed in the same circumstances. Take Ana for instance, she has never trained fulltime at a world class tennis camp so its really not fair to compare her to Sharapova, who has had world class training and coaching since she was six. Same for Nicole.

My rank would be Ana, Tati and Nicole

Right now Tati has the best all court game. Its not that Tati doesnt have weapons its that she doesnt use them enough. She has a huge FH and her serve can definitely be a weapon if she learns how to move it around the box more. Tati reminds me of Nastya...a player with weapons who tends to be consistent and wait for others to make mistakes, especially when playing the big hitters.

Ana is just WOW. She has all the elements. She just needs more wta experience in putting it all together. What I love most about her is that she is a fierce competitor. Ana Ivanovic will be a household name...mark my words.

Nicole is the most raw player of all three. When you see her play, you can see vast potential. She needs alot of work. I think 2006 will be Nic's year. She has a huge serve, even bigger FH and she has vastly improved her BH. Plus she is not afraid to go to net (on most surfaces). She has already starting using the slice BH and she knows how to lob.

If they all keep working hard...they will no doubt be the next big crop of wta stars.

BK4ever
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:39 PM
When has Nikki cracked under pressure? That's right, she hasn't.

Nic has not cracked under pressure, but she has shown nervous tendencies several times, luckily she has been able to pull off the win...

Maybe her loss against Meghann can be considered a crack...hmmm

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:40 PM
Justine hadn't won a Slam by the time she was 17. Neither had Lindsay and Venus. Clijsters and Mauresmo haven't won a Slam yet. I am not saying that Ana's career will be like theirs because I can't know that, but writing off a player just because she didn't win a Slam as a teenager is a bit silly to say the least.

Half the accomplishments? :haha:
Yeah right, she has one tier V title less. And one tier I QF more.

Vaidisova:
Won first tournament entered (10K)
Final of second (75K, beat top 100 player)
Won third (25 K)
QF of first WTA event (beat one top 100 and another top 50 player, tier 3)
Won fifth WTA event (Tier 5, beat four consecutive top 100 players)
Qualified for US Open
QF of Tokyo (tier 3)
Won second WTA title in 8th event (tier 4, beat 4 consecutive top 100 players, including one top 50)
Tier 5 QF
Slam R32
Tier 3 SF
Tier 1 R32
Tier 1 R32
Tier 1 QF

Career Titles: 4
Best Slam: R32
Best Tier 1: QF
Best Tier 2: R32
Best Tier 3: SF
Best Tier 4: Won
Best Tier 5: Won

Ana Ivanovic:
Lost in the SF of first ITF tournamenet (10K)
Lost in R16 of the second
Lost in the SF of the third
Lost in qualifying at her first WTA tournament
Turned Vaidisova's age.

Career titles by 16: 0
Best WTA performance: second round of qualifying at a tier 3

Comparable? I think not.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:47 PM
Then, Ana after her 16th b-day:

Lost F 10K ITF
Won 10K ITF (in her fifth attempt, Nikki did it in her first)
Won 50K ITF (Niki won her second in her third attempt)
Won 50K ITF
L R32 Tier 3
L R64 Tier 3
L First round qualifying Grand Slam
Won 50K
Won 50K
L R16 Tier 1
Turned one year older than Nicole is now

So, even if we give Ana one year over Nicole:
Career Titles: 5 (but 0 Wta titles, and Nicole has played only three ITF events in her career)
Best Slam: First round of qualifying
Best Tier 1: R16
No Tier Twos
Best Tier 3: First Round
No Tier 4/5

Clearly, Nicole up until 16 has had a better career than Ana up until 17.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Finally, We'll go from Ana's 17th birthday until Miami (17.5)

QF Tier 3
W Tier 5 (7th WTA event, Nicole did it in her fifth)
R32 GS
R32 Tier 2
R16 Tier 2
Final qualifying round tier 2
QF Tier 1

So Ana has played 8 more tournaments than Nicole, is a year and a half older than Nicole, and yet their results are pretty similar:
Career Titles: 1 (2 for Nikki)
Best Grand Slam: R32 (for both)
Best Tier 1: QF (for both, though Nicole is still alive in Charleston)
Best Tier 2: R16 (R32 for Nikki, but Nikki's never lost in qualifying)
Best Tier 3: QF (Nikki reached a SF)
Best Tier 4: Qualifying (Nikki W)
Best Tier 5: W (for both)

In other words, Nicole has achieved just as much (or slightly more) than Ana Ivanovic despite being a year and a half younger. Take out Ana's last 8 tournaments (so that the two have an equal number of events to compare,) and Ana isn't even comparable to Nicole. Maybe if you give Nicole 8 more events, she will have once again risen above Ivanovic. Age does matter, and experience certainly does.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Now guys, I love Ivanovic. She's hot as hell, has a great great great game, and may end up being the best of the three. I just think y'all hype her up a bit much in comparison to Nicole (as if Nicole were some crap player with no future.) After this week, Nicole will be ranked two/three places higher, and will be much much younger. Nicole has done just as much as Ana (again, arguably more,) despite the age gap and the 8 tournament experience gap.

Technical Analysis (no results):

Golovin: Good serve, great FH that she doesn't use enough, good BH, few errors, smart tennis, good volleys, excellent movement, excellent mental toughness. No true weakness, no true strength.

Ivanovic: Inconsistent serve (too many DF, but good power,) excellent FH, excellent BH, high risk game (can be inconsistent,) ugly volleys, decent movement, excellent mental toughness. Consistency (especially on serve) and volleys can prove problematic, movement can be exposed. However, she possesses two huge huge weapons that don't misfire for lack of technique (sometimes because she goes for too much, but not often,) and her serve has great potential, if she can work on that second delivery. Also, she is one of the most mentally tough players I have seen.

Vaidisova: World Class serve (top 5/10 in the game.) Best FH of these three, potential to be one of best of all time, decent BH (can break down, technique slightly unusual,) high risk game, excellent volleys, good movement, very aggressive mindset, uses right shots at right times, too emotional (but she doesn't seem to let it affect her tennis. She fights well and closes decently.) Her BH needs work, and she needs to grow up sometimes, but her FH, serves (first and second,) and her volleys are all great weapons.

Ana and Nicole are very similar. I just feel like Nicole will end up being slightly better. She has slighly more time to work on slightly fewer problems.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:08 PM
But again, I do love Ana so please don't misread what I have written. I just want to offer you alternative info. so you can make your own decisions with all the evidence.

Bankhead Bounce
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Ana!

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Melly Flew Us
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:29 PM
ivanovic seems to have more ability.
golovin has a head start.
but it remains to be seen who will be left standing in two years time.

vutt
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:33 PM
A LOT of hype surrounds Ana these day's. Let's just wait and see if she can back it up by winning GS...

ezekiel
Apr 15th, 2005, 10:15 PM
Finally, We'll go from Ana's 17th birthday until Miami (17.5)

QF Tier 3
W Tier 5 (7th WTA event, Nicole did it in her fifth)
R32 GS
R32 Tier 2
R16 Tier 2
Final qualifying round tier 2
QF Tier 1

So Ana has played 8 more tournaments than Nicole, is a year and a half older than Nicole, and yet their results are pretty similar:
Career Titles: 1 (2 for Nikki)
Best Grand Slam: R32 (for both)
Best Tier 1: QF (for both, though Nicole is still alive in Charleston)
Best Tier 2: R16 (R32 for Nikki, but Nikki's never lost in qualifying)
Best Tier 3: QF (Nikki reached a SF)
Best Tier 4: Qualifying (Nikki W)
Best Tier 5: W (for both)

In other words, Nicole has achieved just as much (or slightly more) than Ana Ivanovic despite being a year and a half younger. Take out Ana's last 8 tournaments (so that the two have an equal number of events to compare,) and Ana isn't even comparable to Nicole. Maybe if you give Nicole 8 more events, she will have once again risen above Ivanovic. Age does matter, and experience certainly does.

Ok, let's clear some things. Ana has just recently entered wta tour, 6 months maybe. Before that she was winning almost every challenger tournament for something like 30 match winning streak. The other 2 girls have been on the tour longer than her because Ana for one goes to school unlike the others so she has things to balance along with tennis.. Ana has only played 1 grand slam and people question why she hasn't won any :retard: .

And yes I am hyping her cause she gave me reason to believe in her. She has great physical gifts and has shown mental toughness. Basically she has unlimited potential in my view.

Odd
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:09 PM
she's also two years older than Vaidisova with half the accomplishments:o . What's up with this board's obsession with Ana Ivanovic?:o I mean, she's great and all, but Maria won Wimbledon at her age.

This is the post i have a problem with.

This just sounds like frustration that a lot of the board has warmed to Ana more than Nicole when Nicole is "clearly the better player". They both have big potential to make it big. You argue well as to why Nicole has more of a chance to be successful than ana, you seem educated, so why do u think "the board is obsessed with Ana"?

Back to the topic at hand. They're all so closely matched up. If you go by ranking and accomplishment, then tati is ahead. If you go by age and potential, then Nicole is ahead. If you go by recent head to head, then its Ana who is ahead. I voted Ana simply cos i like her most out of the three (my very scientific approach to analysis:devil: ).

It will be interesting to come back to this thread in 2 years time and see what eventuates.

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 11:15 PM
Ok, let's clear some things. Ana has just recently entered wta tour, 6 months maybe. Before that she was winning almost every challenger tournament for something like 30 match winning streak. The other 2 girls have been on the tour longer than her because Ana for one goes to school unlike the others so she has things to balance along with tennis.. Ana has only played 1 grand slam and people question why she hasn't won any :retard: .

And yes I am hyping her cause she gave me reason to believe in her. She has great physical gifts and has shown mental toughness. Basically she has unlimited potential in my view.

No, Ana played her first WTA tournament in the fall of 2003. You're wrong.
No, Nicole won a higher percentage of ITF events. Ana never won more than three ITF events in a row (5 total.) Ana has played (as I stated earlier) 8 more ITF/WTA events than Nicole. Ana has also played two grand slams (US Open l. first round qualifying.) I think you need to read my posts entirely.

ezekiel
Apr 16th, 2005, 12:06 AM
No, Ana played her first WTA tournament in the fall of 2003. You're wrong.
No, Nicole won a higher percentage of ITF events. Ana never won more than three ITF events in a row (5 total.) Ana has played (as I stated earlier) 8 more ITF/WTA events than Nicole. Ana has also played two grand slams (US Open l. first round qualifying.) I think you need to read my posts entirely.

Ana Ivanovic played one wta qualifier in 2003 and played and won challengers before and after that. Yes , she did lose in qualifying for us open and went 3rd round in aus open. But she did beat both Vaidisova and Golovin :bounce: and she is just starting :bounce:

Sir Stefwhit
Apr 16th, 2005, 02:09 AM
Nikki_V- the skys the limit with this 15 year old dynamo. My only concern with her is that she has the tendency to get really negative on court when things aren't going her way. Maybe with some time she'll improve on that. She's my pick for the one that will achieve the most.

Ivanovic- I think right now she's got the best combination for success, mental fortitude, solid game, and hunger.

Golovin- I think of the three, she is, and will remain the most consistent. I think we got to give Tati the award for being the most strategic on court. She's got good groundies and reminds me a lot of Myskina, instead of the great backhand she has a great forehand (and a better serve). I think Golovin will have a harder time impossing her game on the other top players on consistent basis. I see a lot of QFs in her career...

andrewbroad
Apr 19th, 2005, 02:04 AM
3. Tatiana Golovin--Golovin has no weapons. <snip> Yes Tati moves better than both of them, but good movers without weapons peak between 11 and 20.

Maria Sharapova, Birmingham 2004:
"In the first set she did everything right, she was just too good. I was just lucky she couldn't do it the whole match."

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
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SzavayFi
Apr 19th, 2005, 02:06 AM
Tati! :bounce:

Hachiko
Apr 19th, 2005, 02:09 AM
Golovin has had more success in the bigger events, I think.

tennisjunky
Jul 16th, 2007, 08:58 PM
ivanovic
vaidisova
golovin

Neptune
Jul 16th, 2007, 09:07 PM
Ask me who's the best player and will always be? Ivanovic.

Ask me who has more potential? Vaidisova.

But I don't know who'll have the best career.

Topspin2
Jul 16th, 2007, 09:10 PM
:hearts: I like Tati :hearts:

Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2007, 10:22 PM
tati

Zombielicious
Jul 16th, 2007, 11:02 PM
Tati.

Thanx4nothin
Jul 17th, 2007, 12:35 AM
Ivanoivic>Tati>Nicole.

Sharapova's_Boy
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:21 AM
Golovin with more votes than Vaidisova? :rolls:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:47 AM
I think Vaidisova is better than Ana and tati


Personally I like Tati , then Nicole and finally Ivanovic

so.krist!na
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:52 AM
ana for sure.

Crank
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:56 AM
Vaidisova all the way ! Golovin :haha:

iPatty
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:08 AM
right now, ivanovic. in the long run, vaidisova.

golovin isn't anywhere close to them at this point. :tape:

delicatecutter
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:20 AM
Ivanovic :) She has wins over both. ;)

:spit:

Thanks for the bump. I'd love to see someone catch me in such a silly situation.

heytennis
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:25 AM
Golovin isn't even close to Ivanovic and Vaidisova right now.

Jirku
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:27 AM
1.Golovin
2.Vaidisova
3.Ivanovic

Hashim.
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:45 AM
nikki

mankind
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:45 AM
As much as I like Tati, Ana and Nicole are better players because they have big, mostly reliable weapons and are more consistent (and less injury prone perhaps :sobbing:).

It's quite surprising how quickly Ana has come into her own, whilst it seems like Nicole and Tati have been around for ages yet have not reached a GS final yet, like Ana has. If this poll had been around less than a year ago, everyone would have voted for Nicole but now it seems Ana has achieved so much more :shrug:

Cp6uja
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:49 AM
Golovin must proove that she deserve to be compared like same class player with Ana and Nicole, and i dont understund how she have more votes here than Vaidisova? :confused:

So far Ana have (much) better results (2 tier-I and GS final) than Nicole, but Nicole still have better results than Ana in her ages.

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 06:50 AM
this is a poll of whos better not who has had the best results...im sorry but tati is as good as the other two if not better..she has more to offer than just power but she still hits the ball pretty damn hard

Sexysova
Jul 17th, 2007, 06:58 AM
Ivanovic :) She has wins over both. ;)

lol Nicole too :p :p :p

Alicia Rocks
Jul 17th, 2007, 07:12 AM
Ana

-SheLL-
Jul 17th, 2007, 07:28 AM
prob Ana or Nicole

switz
Jul 17th, 2007, 08:15 AM
Golovin just can't a break with injuries. every time she gets going a serious one arises to set her back. She's shown she's capable of beating both Ivanovic and Vaidisova even though she doesn't have their power. I just want her to stay healthy and then we can see what she's capable of.

austennis
Jul 17th, 2007, 08:22 AM
Ana has proved herself as no.1 at the moment with a tokyo final, French open final and a wimby final all in the first 6months of this and on 3 different surfaces.. but congrats to Nicole on her SF andQF results at AO and FO and WIMBY
1. ana
2. nicole
3. Tati

Dexter
Jul 17th, 2007, 10:26 AM
Golovin must proove that she deserve to be compared like same class player with Ana and Nicole, and i dont understund how she have more votes here than Vaidisova? :confused:

So far Ana have (much) better results (2 tier-I and GS final) than Nicole, but Nicole still have better results than Ana in her ages.I think we should look more at when players started playing on the Tour, than at their actual age. Nicole was already a titlist and played in a GS MD, whilst Ana was yet to win a match in a MD of a tournament of any kind.

CORIA01
Jul 17th, 2007, 10:28 AM
1 Ivanovic
2 Vaidisova


3 Golovin

Pilongo
Jul 17th, 2007, 10:39 AM
Right now it's obvious:
1 Ana
2 Vaidisova
3 Tati

But i think Tati will have a better future:
1 Golovin
2 Vaidisiova
3 Ivanovic

saki
Jul 17th, 2007, 10:39 AM
At this moment in time, Ana. She just beat Nicole in a GS QF. But I think Nicole will be better in the longer-term. I think she has a more complete game, no real weaknesses, and has yet to be completely thrashed in a big match as Ana has. Her main problem at the moment is mental.

I like Golovin (more than I like either of the other too, actually) but I don't understand why WTAworld is hyping her so much. She's only reached one GS QF, both of the other two have performed much much better at Slams. And she only has the one title.

LDF
Jul 17th, 2007, 10:53 AM
At the moment, it's definitely Ivanovic. But like several others in this thread, I think Vaidisova will be the better player in the future.

Tatiana's not near the level of the other two yet (which is a shame, as she is my favourite of the 3 :p).

darice
Jul 17th, 2007, 11:09 AM
nicki :p

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 11:45 AM
Golovin just can't a break with injuries. every time she gets going a serious one arises to set her back. She's shown she's capable of beating both Ivanovic and Vaidisova even though she doesn't have their power. I just want her to stay healthy and then we can see what she's capable of.

Right now it's obvious:
1 Ana
2 Vaidisova
3 Tati

But i think Tati will have a better future:
1 Golovin
2 Vaidisiova
3 Ivanovic

:worship: uh huh :angel:

tobi
Jul 17th, 2007, 11:46 AM
Ana.

.:sk:.
Jul 17th, 2007, 11:51 AM
Tati, she had really good results in the beginning of the year until her injury. If she is fit she is better than Ana and Nicole :angel:

Rex59
Jul 17th, 2007, 12:16 PM
Right now it's Tatiana. Eventually, it will be Nicole.

Elwin.
Jul 17th, 2007, 12:38 PM
Ivanovic is the best!
Vaidisova is better then Golovin. She is higher in the rankings and have by far more bigger results then Tati.

AnnaK_4ever
Jul 17th, 2007, 01:40 PM
Ivanovic > Vaidisova >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golovin

Mightymirza
Jul 17th, 2007, 01:53 PM
ajde!

lilimi
Jul 17th, 2007, 02:04 PM
voted golovin because i think she has more weapons...but i prefer ana

Poova
Jul 17th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Ivanovic => Vaidisova => Golovin (has been stuck in the same place for ages now)

eugreene2
Jul 17th, 2007, 02:37 PM
Ivanovic ... hands down

AnnaK_4ever
Jul 17th, 2007, 02:37 PM
voted golovin because i think she has more weapons...but i prefer ana

Now this is laughable...
What weapons does Golovin have? She's not the fastest girl on the Tour. Nor she has the best groundies. Nor she is the best server/volleyer. She has not a single spectacular shot. She is even not consistent since she's getting injured all the time.

Derek.
Jul 17th, 2007, 02:38 PM
Ana now oviously has the best results of the three. I think both Ana and Nicole are way better than Golovin. But who will have the better career? Who knows.


voted golovin because i think she has more weapons...but i prefer ana

*death*


If she is fit she is better than Ana and Nicole :angel:

:spit:

TennisGuy21
Jul 17th, 2007, 03:04 PM
Best right now--> Ana, Most Potential --> Nicole (but just not as consistant or mentally tough yet..) Taking up some room in the top 20 --> Tati, I just dont see the real weapons. She could probably make a trip to the top 10 with a good year and some good runs..

Vamos.
Jul 17th, 2007, 03:07 PM
Tati is a joke and really is far, far, far away from Ana. Nicole is a rather distant second place. I don't think Tati and Nicole have anything special between them, while Ana is quite a unique player and individual. You get the feeling that she will be a Slam champion one day!

leoneo
Jul 17th, 2007, 03:37 PM
i like tati, so i hope it is her

Harju.
Jul 17th, 2007, 03:39 PM
Tati owns Tier II, where's Nicole's, Derek? :tape:
That being said, I still believe in Nicole will be the multiple slam winners in the future :cool:

Jirku
Jul 17th, 2007, 03:46 PM
Now this is laughable...
What weapons does Golovin have? She's not the fastest girl on the Tour. Nor she has the best groundies. Nor she is the best server/volleyer. She has not a single spectacular shot. She is even not consistent since she's getting injured all the time.

it's obvious you know nothing at all of tennis , how old are you 10 year ?
ignore list for you

Jirku
Jul 17th, 2007, 03:50 PM
lol Nicole too :p :p :p

*cough* 6-1 6-0 *cough*

Michael_21
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:10 PM
Nicole all the way ana is at the moment but only cause nicole has had injuries which have keept her out of a few tournaments this year even then ana may still have been on top now but i think in the future NICOLE !!!! :D

Topspin2
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:26 PM
I think, that many have voted for Ana, only because it very well plays last time. And if it was in тор 50 for it would vote less person. :lol:

Shinjiro
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:42 PM
based on current results, i say ana.

AnnaK_4ever
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Tati owns Tier II

Wow. She OWNS Tier II :eek:
Now I guess we can say Kirilenko, Bondarenko, and Bovina all are better than Vaidisova too :worship:

Harju.
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Wow. She OWNS Tier II :eek:
Now I guess we can say Kirilenko, Bondarenko, and Bovina all are better than Vaidisova too :worship:
Did I say Tati is the bestest ever!111!!!!ONE!! :rolleyes: I'm just teasin' Derek. K.

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:50 PM
Im sorry but slow Ball bashers arent that great really. When they go off, they REALLY go off and they cant even try and run down balls and stay in the point coz they're soo slow:spit: sure, when they're playing well, the're great but the aggresive counterpunchers like tati and tamira can go blow for blow with ana and nicole and although ana and nicole will probably hit more winners...they'll also hit more errors:p The future of womens tennis is aggresive counterpunching...in AO and now wimbledon, we've seeen serena and venus hittting 3/4 shots - counterpunching but aggresively and when they get a short ball, they kill it. Gone are the days when you can just blast your way to victory...ball bashing is great but in the long run, it will be tati and tamira having more sucess. If tati was completely overwhelmed when playing players like them, i'd say shes not as good but you see in miami and US Open 06, tati made sharapova play to her pace and could have won those matches...same with AI this yeae against Ivanovic and then in Zurich last year, tati was doing the ball bashing in that match but instead of nicole using her brain and trying to find a way to get on top, she tried to hit it harder than tati....tati's defence was great in that match and she wasnt fazed by vaidisova's power....she just returned it with even more...then vaidisova broke down and tati eased her way through 6-2 6-0 the future of womens tennis is aggresive counterpunching - the future is tati and tamira.

Natalicious
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:51 PM
ana

DA FOREHAND
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:51 PM
Ivanovic

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:53 PM
When i see jankovic doing so well, i think tati will be like that, just better one day....tati has a big serve, bigger forehand and the rest is about even minus movement....if jankovic can get to no.3 then Tati can sure get ti number 1

Harju.
Jul 17th, 2007, 04:57 PM
Im sorry but slow Ball bashers arent that great really. When they go off, they REALLY go off and they cant even try and run down balls and stay in the point coz they're soo slow:spit: sure, when they're playing well, the're great but the aggresive counterpunchers like tati and tamira can go blow for blow with ana and nicole and although ana and nicole will probably hit more winners...they'll also hit more errors:p The future of womens tennis is aggresive counterpunching...in AO and now wimbledon, we've seeen serena and venus hittting 3/4 shots - counterpunching but aggresively and when they get a short ball, they kill it. Gone are the days when you can just blast your way to victory...ball bashing is great but in the long run, it will be tati and tamira having more sucess. If tati was completely overwhelmed when playing players like them, i'd say shes not as good but you see in miami and US Open 06, tati made sharapova play to her pace and could have won those matches...same with AI this yeae against Ivanovic and then in Zurich last year, tati was doing the ball bashing in that match but instead of nicole using her brain and trying to find a way to get on top, she tried to hit it harder than tati....tati's defence was great in that match and she wasnt fazed by vaidisova's power....she just returned it with even more...then vaidisova broke down and tati eased her way through 6-2 6-0 the future of womens tennis is aggresive counterpunching - the future is tati and tamira.
:spit:

K. Let's face it, Tati will not be the future #1 if she only performs 4 tournaments a year. Not until she finds a new pair of ankles, decent coach and gets herself a real weapon, she'd likely at best hover around top 10.

AnnaK_4ever
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:03 PM
When i see jankovic doing so well, i think tati will be like that, just better one day....tati has a big serve, bigger forehand and the rest is about even minus movement....if jankovic can get to no.3 then Tati can sure get ti number 1

:help: :help: :help:

Harju.
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:05 PM
:help: :help: :help:
:help: :help: :help::help: :help: :help:

Highlandman
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:07 PM
I think Vaidisovį or Ivanovic, Tati 3rd, but she plays very consistant normally.

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:08 PM
:help: :help: :help:

im trying to be positive:ras:
:p

Craigy
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:09 PM
im trying to be positive:ras:
:p

Or maybe delusional?

Dictator&Ship
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:10 PM
all 3 will be top3 one day....and will keep changing throught their career...Chakvetadze will closely follow, as well as Maria, Cibulkova and Tamira...oh and i hope Olaru- such a cute girl

Jirku
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:19 PM
Or maybe delusional?

where's your faith craig :p

TennisGuy21
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:34 PM
This post is strictly in reguards to the childish antic's of some of the posters on this thread. This thread is cleary about opinions on 3 different players. I need to bring to

::::::::EVERYONES ATTENTION <<<<JIRKU>>>> ::::::::::::::::

JIRKU <<<------- Has desided anyone who does not think Tatiana Golovin should be number 1, deserves a bad rep and thus knows nothing about tennis.

I would like to point out, maybe he has a point, after all, NICOLE AND ANA are BOTH top 10 players, RIGHT? ok.. so Tati.. let me look... NOPE. She has never been in the top ten. Now what is even more crazy, I am a FAN of Tatiana's! I really do like her, I just answered the question that honestly, she doesnt have the good's these other 2 girls have.

I dont know how many other people have been "Bad reped" by this person, but my post merely said that I dont think she has the good's like the other two women in the list. The bad rep said, and I quote, "another person who thinks he knows about tennis but doesnt". So without even going off my opinion, I think we should point out to this person, thats.. >>>>JIRKU<<<<, that Tatiana hasnt accomplished near the feets that the other two have.
I went on in my post to even suggest that Tatiana may one day be a top 10 player, with a good year, or a good run. SO .. to conclude this post, let me just bring to everyones attention, that we have a childish poster on the loose bad repping anyone who feels Tati shouldnt be number 1.

Neptune
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:36 PM
same with AI this yeae against Ivanovic and then in Zurich last year, tati was doing the ball bashing in that match but instead of nicole using her brain and trying to find a way to get on top, she tried to hit it harder than tati....tati's defence was great in that match and she wasnt fazed by vaidisova's power....she just returned it with even more...then vaidisova broke down and tati eased her way through 6-2 6-0 the future of womens tennis is aggresive counterpunching - the future is tati and tamira.

As you probably know, Nicole in Zurich last year played horribly.The only match I saw between Nicole and Tatiana when the both was playing good tennis, it was at Cagnes last year.

I can talk about a match where Nicole was fantastic because her opponent was playing horribly, and then, I could use this argument to say Nicole is better than the player she played but It seems that there is something wrong about that.

I could say Bammer is better than Tatiana, it was the same situation but I never tried to say those things.

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:39 PM
Or maybe delusional?

no, positive :ras:

shirley
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:41 PM
ana ivanovic

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:49 PM
As you probably know, Nicole in Zurich last year played horribly.The only match I saw between Nicole and Tatiana when the both was playing good tennis, it was at Cagnes last year.

I can talk about a match where Nicole was fantastic because her opponent was playing horribly, and then, I could use this argument to say Nicole is better than the player she played but It seems that there is something wrong about that.

I could say Bammer is better than Tatiana, it was the same situation but I never tried to say those things.

My point exactly...forget what i said about no.1 coz i just got a it carried away:p

but Sure when nicole is playing well, shes great. But when she starts playing badly...she tries to fix it by hitting it harder, going for the lines more and hitting more acute angles and then plays horribly....once tati gets her forehand back, it may not be as powerful as the other two but she can still go blow for blow with them and her strokes are less likely to break down and shes less likely to hit errors. She reminds me a bit of Jankovic and Capriati...Jen Cap's won 2 GSs and has been no.1. And JJ is currently no.3 . Bearing in mind JJ was having something like a 10 match losing streak last year. People should know that everything can change just like that...i just dno why everyone is writing her off at 19.

Serval
Jul 17th, 2007, 05:53 PM
Right now, Ana :angel:

In the future, possibly Nicole :tape:

Volcana
Jul 17th, 2007, 06:06 PM
I'm sure, when this thread was created, the issue may have been open to debate. Right now, the disparity in results is so great, there isn't any question.

Ivanovic > Vaidisova > Golovin

Ranking
Ivanovic ... Top Rank _5, Current Rank _5
Vaidisova .. Top Rank _7, Current Rank 10
Golovin .... Top Rank 16, Current Rank 19
H2H
Ivanovic ... 5-1 vs Golovin, 2-1 vs Vaidisova
Vaidisova .. 3-1 vs Golovin, 1-2 vs Ivanovic
Golovin .... 1-5 vs Ivanovic, 1-3 vs Vaidisova
Tour wins
Ivanovic ... 3 wins total, Best: Tier I (2)
Vaidisova .. 6 wins total, Best: Tier III (3)
Golovin .... 1 wins total, Best: Tier II (1)
GS results
Ivanovic ... 1 GS final, 1 GS semi, 1 GS QF
Vaidisova .. 0 GS final, 2 GS semi, 2 GS QF
Golovin .... 0 GS final, 0 GS semi, 1 GS QF
Age
Ivanovic ... 19 (November 6, 1987)
Vaidisova .. 18 (April 23, 1989)
Golovin .... 19 (January 25, 1988)

Vaidisova fans, if they are so moved, can hang their hat on her being a year younger, and having more wins, even though they're lesser tourneys. But Ivanovic proved steadier under pressure at Wimbledon.

TennisGuy21
Jul 17th, 2007, 06:12 PM
I'm sure, when this thread was created, the issue may have been open to debate. Right now, the disparity in results is so great, there isn't any question.

Ivanovic > Vaidisova > Golovin

Ranking
Ivanovic ... Top Rank _5, Current Rank _5
Vaidisova .. Top Rank _7, Current Rank 10
Golovin .... Top Rank 16, Current Rank 19
H2H
Ivanovic ... 5-1 vs Golovin, 2-1 vs Vaidisova
Vaidisova .. 3-1 vs Golovin, 1-2 vs Ivanovic
Golovin .... 1-5 vs Ivanovic, 1-3 vs Vaidisova
Tour wins
Ivanovic ... 3 wins total, Best: Tier I (2)
Vaidisova .. 6 wins total, Best: Tier III (3)
Golovin .... 1 wins total, Best: Tier II (1)
GS results
Ivanovic ... 1 GS final, 1 GS semi, 1 GS QF
Vaidisova .. 0 GS final, 2 GS semi, 2 GS QF
Golovin .... 0 GS final, 0 GS semi, 1 GS QF
Age
Ivanovic ... 19 (November 6, 1987)
Vaidisova .. 18 (April 23, 1989)
Golovin .... 19 (January 25, 1988)

Vaidisova fans, if they are so moved, can hang their hat on her being a year younger, and having more wins, even though they're lesser tourneys. But Ivanovic proved steadier under pressure at Wimbledon.





Well, JIRKU .... I think this just backs up everything I mentioned in the orginal post, the one you desided to BAD REP ME FOR, and say I knew NOTHING about tennis.:help:

Neptune
Jul 17th, 2007, 06:16 PM
My point exactly...forget what i said about no.1 coz i just got a it carried away:p

but Sure when nicole is playing well, shes great. But when she starts playing badly...she tries to fix it by hitting it harder, going for the lines more and hitting more acute angles and then plays horribly....once tati gets her forehand back, it may not be as powerful as the other two but she can still go blow for blow with them and her strokes are less likely to break down and shes less likely to hit errors. She reminds me a bit of Jankovic and Capriati...Jen Cap's won 2 GSs and has been no.1. And JJ is currently no.3 . Bearing in mind JJ was having something like a 10 match losing streak last year. People should know that everything can change just like that...i just dno why everyone is writing her off at 19.

You didn't get my point but whatever...

I don't think she looks like Jankovic or Capriati.Tatiana is still a ball trasher but with less power than the both already quoted.I don't see her as an intelligent player who can use a lot of tactics during a match and I have no doubt to say her mental toughness is worst than Jankovic and Capriati.

Sure, Tatiana can improve and she'll probably be in the top 10 but I think only when Henin, Williams...will be out.

saki
Jul 17th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Vaidisova fans, if they are so moved, can hang their hat on her being a year younger, and having more wins, even though they're lesser tourneys. But Ivanovic proved steadier under pressure at Wimbledon.


I'm not sure that that is particularly clearcut. Ivanovic has played two really big matches this year - the RG final and the Wimbledon SF and she played like shit in both matches. Vaidisova, on the other hand, has tended to play great tennis in big matches but either fail to take her chances (like at the AO) or choke (RG SF last year, Wimbledon QF this year).

Is freezing in a big match and spraying errors better or worse than choking a lead away? I'm not sure. They're different issues. It'll depend on how they both deal with them. Natasha Zvereva was never the same in singles after she got thrashed in the RG final but other players have been thrashed on the big stage and bounced back. Some players choke for their entire careers, others get over it at some point.

We'll see.

Volcana
Jul 17th, 2007, 09:46 PM
We'll see.
Actually, 'we'll see' sums it up. In 1999, if you asked who was going to wind up with the better career, Serena or Hingis, the answer would have been Hingis in a landslide. Eight years later, a lot changed. Ivanovic, Vaidisova and Golovin may all win slams. None of them may win slams. Lucie Safarova may turn out to be the second coming of Steffi Graf. Who knows?

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 10:46 PM
I'm not sure that that is particularly clearcut. Ivanovic has played two really big matches this year - the RG final and the Wimbledon SF and she played like shit in both matches. Vaidisova, on the other hand, has tended to play great tennis in big matches but either fail to take her chances (like at the AO) or choke (RG SF last year, Wimbledon QF this year).

Is freezing in a big match and spraying errors better or worse than choking a lead away? I'm not sure. They're different issues. It'll depend on how they both deal with them. Natasha Zvereva was never the same in singles after she got thrashed in the RG final but other players have been thrashed on the big stage and bounced back. Some players choke for their entire careers, others get over it at some point.

We'll see.

Whatever way you look at it, they both showed major mental flaws like tatiana and i doubt any will win a GS while the williamses and henins of this world are still around. none of them. not even tati:p

Slutiana
Jul 17th, 2007, 10:53 PM
You didn't get my point but whatever...

I don't think she looks like Jankovic or Capriati.Tatiana is still a ball trasher but with less power than the both already quoted.I don't see her as an intelligent player who can use a lot of tactics during a match and I have no doubt to say her mental toughness is worst than Jankovic and Capriati.

Sure, Tatiana can improve and she'll probably be in the top 10 but I think only when Henin, Williams...will be out.

Yeah but i think she makes up for the less power in her dropshots, counterpunching, volleys and so on...she also has a pretty big serve which is very underrated. You cant say shes as 1d as the other 2. But at the end of the day, nothing we say will make a difference, the players have to act. I just hope tati can prove me right and i can :p at nearly everyone in GM. If not; :ras: :)

.Andrew.
Jul 17th, 2007, 10:55 PM
In the long run, I think that Nicole will have the best career.

But hopefully Ana will.

Cp6uja
Jul 17th, 2007, 11:15 PM
I'm not sure that that is particularly clearcut. Ivanovic has played two really big matches this year - the RG final and the Wimbledon SF and she played like shit in both matches. Vaidisova, on the other hand, has tended to play great tennis in big matches but either fail to take her chances (like at the AO) or choke (RG SF last year, Wimbledon QF this year).Why do you think that her final in Berlin (tier-I) or QF at RG against Kuznetsova (best clay player in last two years after Henin) is not big matches. Her SF against MaSha in RG is also BIG MATCH, not because Sharapova is clay expert - only because that match is SF of GS and because Ana destroyed her opponent (#2 in world) with 6-2 6-1 result.

And at Wimbledon Ana have again 2 TOP10 wins (Petrova and VAIDISOVA)- so she have already 9 TOP10 wins in 2007 (1.Henin-12, 2.Ivanovic-9, 3.Jankovic-6...etc).

Also Ana not played "like shit" against Venus in SF. She only started that match "like shit" (0-4), but after that she give Venus more problems than any other player (Sharapova, Kuznetsova or Bartoli) in week 2 when Venus played her best tennis. For example Ana won 80% points at Venus 2nd serve (12 of 15) but Venus served better than ever in her career (75% :eek: of her 1st serve is in!, and her faster serve in that match is 125 mph with umbeliveble average speed of 1st serve for woman tennis 113 mph :eek: !?).

Mikey B
Jul 17th, 2007, 11:20 PM
ana.. but i see abit of the clijsters about her, in the sense that she's too nice to win a slam! lol! hope its not true.. hopefully she'll win one soon, get that awful french open final out of everyone's mind!!

not sure whats keeping golovin out of the top ten, if she can keep her form up consistently then she could do very well... but there must be a reason why she's only won one title in her career..

Volcana
Jul 17th, 2007, 11:32 PM
We're probably comparing Golovin to the wrong players. Her results just don't compare to Vaidisova and Ivanovic. But look at how Golovin compares to Peer, Chakvetadze and Safarova, players who are also withing one year in age of her. Their career results thus far look like

Chakvetadze > Peer >= Golovin > Safarova

Chakvetadze is the player who's results compare themosy favorable with Ivanovic and Vaidisova, rather than Golovin.



RankingChakvetadze .. Top Rank _7, Current Rank _8
Peer ......... Top Rank 15, Current Rank 18
Golovin ...... Top Rank 16, Current Rank 19
Safarova ..... Top Rank 25, Current Rank 25



H2HGolovin ...... 2-2, vs Chakvedtadze, 0-1 vs Peer, 2-2 vs Safarova
Chakvetadze .. 2-2 vs Golovin, 2-1 vs Peer, 1-1 vs Safarova
Peer ......... 1-2 vs Chakvetadze, 1-0 vs Golovin, 1-1 vs Safarova
Safarova ..... 1-1 vs Peer, 1-1 vs Chakvetadze, 2-2 vs Golovin



Tour winsChakvetadze .. 4 wins total, Best: 1 Tier I
Peer ......... 3 wins total: Best: 1 Tier III
Safarova ..... 3 wins total: Best: 1 Tier III
Golovin ...... 1 wins total, Best: 1 Tier II



GS resultsChakvetadze .. 0 GS final, 0 GS semi, 2 GS QF
Golovin ...... 0 GS final, 0 GS semi, 1 GS QF
Peer ......... 0 GS final, 0 GS semi, 1 GS QF
Safarova ..... 0 GS final, 0 GS semi, 1 GS QF



AgeGolovin ...... 19 (January 25, 1988)
Chakvetadze .. 20 (March 5, 1987)
Peer ......... 20 (May 1, 1987)
Safarova ..... 20 (February 4, 1987)

trufanjay
Jul 18th, 2007, 12:45 AM
Any unbiased decision would result in Ivanovic. Her game is good for all surfaces.

Il Primo!
Jul 18th, 2007, 01:50 AM
I like them all, especially Tati then Ana. To be honest, Ana is more promising and Tati is the least one.

Derek.
Jul 18th, 2007, 04:19 AM
Tati owns Tier II, where's Nicole's, Derek? :tape:

It's on its way. :cool:

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 18th, 2007, 06:31 AM
It's on its way. :cool:

You better belileve it! There's something about that girl that does it for me. She's taken Kim's place as my second favorite player on tour. I just hope these injuries aren't a mainstay- I'm a little nervous...

serena_fan
Jul 18th, 2007, 01:38 PM
Golovin :)

Maryamator
Jul 18th, 2007, 02:09 PM
i think ivanovic's strokes rock.. and her results have been very consistent this year..

Wayn77
Jul 18th, 2007, 02:56 PM
potentially ...

Vaidisova

Dexter
Jul 18th, 2007, 02:59 PM
Nicole & Tatiana have so far less votes combined than Ana alone. :tape: :rolls:

Princeza
Jul 18th, 2007, 03:08 PM
Ana then Nicole.
If Nicole wasn't so nervous she would be the best.

adrovi
Jul 18th, 2007, 04:48 PM
Nicole ;)

Sir Stefwhit
Jun 6th, 2008, 05:22 AM
It's been about a year since this thread has been bumped up so I thought I'd do the honors. I still think Nikki will one day win a slam; she can't keep sucking ass like she's currently doing, but it's pretty obvious at this point that Ana has really separated herself from both Nikki and Tati.

SOA_MC
Jun 6th, 2008, 05:41 AM
I like them all, especially Tati then Ana. To be honest, Ana is more promising and Tati is the least one.

:rolls::rolls:

Dave.
Jun 6th, 2008, 05:53 AM
Wow Ana really has moved on from these two.

Shvedbarilescu
Jun 6th, 2008, 08:34 AM
Ana


Tati





Nicole

toxina90
Jun 6th, 2008, 10:51 AM
Golovin has been injured too much, if she had consistency like at end of last year she would be top 5.

Vaidisova very good but strange confidence problems.

Ana rarely toubled by injury and talented = great success, except doesn't have B game.

thrust
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:44 AM
Unbelievable question! Ana is ranked #1, the others are not even close.

Adal
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:46 AM
I voted for Ana :eek:

Sir Stefwhit
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:50 AM
Unbelievable question! Ana is ranked #1, the others are not even close.
Yeah, but when this thread was originally created they were all about equal in rankings and accomplishments. Since then Ana's pulled away so today it seems like a silly question, but back then it was hard to tell. Interesting to go back and read everyone's comments.

We also have to keep in mind that just because Ana has hit her stride first doesn't prove that she'll end her career being the most successful of the three; although I wouldn't bet against her at this point.

Nikkiri
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:51 AM
This question is a no brainer right now.

RenaSlam.
Jun 6th, 2008, 12:55 PM
Golovin has been a fav. of mine since last year in February. In the long run, I think Ivanovic. Tati would beat Vaidisova right now though.

Ajde RenaSlam!

joćo.
Jun 6th, 2008, 01:12 PM
I kinda like them all but I think Ivanovic is the better player (because of the ranking - and wins, obviously).

Shimizu Amon
Jun 6th, 2008, 01:20 PM
1. Ivanovic
2. Golovin
3. Vaidisova

joćo.
Jun 6th, 2008, 01:23 PM
This thread made me think of how much potential Vaidisova has and is wasting right now or something. :( C'mon, Nicole!

Sharapova's_Boy
Jun 6th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Sigh.

Nikki :retard:

Cp6uja
Jun 6th, 2008, 02:21 PM
This question is a no brainer right now.
Better "NO BRAINER" question with so-so rational results, than "NO BRAINER" poll question with "NO BRAINER" results. If you dont understand what i want to tell you - just create new "Who is better Golovin, Ivanovic or Vaidisova?" Poll here and see results next day :p

Thanks God this is re-bump thread from 2005 so influence of 2008 anti-Ana WTAW "madnes" :help: :tape: dont have so big reflections on poll results...

hablo
Jun 6th, 2008, 02:29 PM
I like them all, especially Tati then Ana. To be honest, Ana is more promising and Tati is the least one.

I knew it. You used to like Ana.

Oh how things change quickly. :haha:

ASP0315
Jun 6th, 2008, 02:36 PM
ivanovic by a huge margin

ElusiveChanteuse
Jun 6th, 2008, 02:55 PM
It's not too late to vote for Ana heh?:p

partbrit
Jun 6th, 2008, 03:54 PM
I really think Golovin has the most talent, but I don't see her as doing the best on the tour.

saint2
Jun 6th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Question from 2005...Eh...How stupid it looks now...:lol::lol:

Slutati
Jun 6th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Golovin of course:):banana:
I can't believe Tati used to be ranked higher than both of them:sad::sobbing: