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DD
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:40 PM
I got to admit I didnt really believe it was over for Venus. I dont know how she keeps smiling after getting beating by players she should be trashing. I think her loses get to me more than her. I dont think she cares that much anymore.

RenaSlam.
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:43 PM
Venus still has a lot of work to do. Golovin is tough on the dirt. This one is going to hurt for a while. I'm really disappointed because I THOUGHT Venus was in the right direction...but apparently not.

tobe
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:46 PM
I got to admit I didnt really believe it was over for Venus. I dont know how she keeps smiling after getting beating by players she should be trashing. I think her loses get to me more than her. I dont think she cares that much anymore.
I thought the same...really seems like she is not taking it serious like she used to do, like shaking heads and laughing and smirking after making errors!
I think it is in her head, if she doesn't really want to play 100 % she won't win!

No Name Face
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:47 PM
Guys, it's a loss to a up and coming player. Venus probably underestimated her and you know what, that's her fault. But it doesn't mean it's over yet. The Queen will be back.

lizchris
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:56 PM
I didn't see the match, but Venus appeared as if she played flat.

Her problem isn't her game; it is her consistency.

tennisIlove09
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:56 PM
No it's not. It's not over until she retires. She'll still win many titles, and majors...I have faith and all her real fans do :D

GoDominique
Apr 14th, 2005, 06:58 PM
I didn't see the match, but Venus appeared as if she played flat.

Her problem isn't her game; it is her consistency.
Isn't consistency a part of the game? :)

lizchris
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:04 PM
Isn't consistency a part of the game? :)

A part of the game, but not a big part, IMO

Venus can still serve and hit forehands and backhands, but she just hasn't been consistent this clay court season.

It could be worse; she could be having Myskina's year.

davidmario
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:05 PM
She played a flat match. I didn't saw the fighting-spirit! Venus played just DUMB - no gameplan, no fight - for me it looked like a poor training match.

GoDominique
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:06 PM
A part of the game, but not a big part, IMO

Venus can still serve and hit forehands and backhands, but she just hasn't been consistent this clay court season.

It could be worse; she could be having Myskina's year.
True. And if she gets even worse, then there's still Alex Stevenson for the comparisons. :)

davidmario
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:07 PM
True. And if she gets even worse, then there's still Alex Stevenson for the comparisons. :)
Oh come on. You can't compare Venus with a Alex Stevenson :o :cuckoo:

propi
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:08 PM
I thought she was last week, and before that, the one before, and the one before...:rolleyes:
Will we have one of this after every loss??:rolleyes:
Give the girl a break.:rolleyes:

lizchris
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Oh come on. You can't compare Venus with a Alex Stevenson :o :cuckoo:

He could because he is a :retard:

griffin
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:13 PM
Venus has always had trouble with inconsistency - even at her best, it was not uncommon for her serve/forehand/brain to go walkabout for entire sets, especially early in tournaments. The difference was, she was always able to shake it off and come back to win. On court (forget interviews, taking interviews seriously ≠ taking tennis seriously and vice versa), she just doesn't seem to have the same fire.

She may get it back, but whether her interest has slipped, or her priorities have shifted (and I wouldn't blame her if they had), she's not the same person on court that she was a few years back.

GoDominique
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:15 PM
Oh come on. You can't compare Venus with a Alex Stevenson :o :cuckoo:
Not yet. :) And I won't do it anyway, it was just an advice for lizchris. :)

volta
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:20 PM
not over i think that its only over when she decides to retire but she aint ungry anymore im not seeing her play angry like before im not seeing her fight in the court anymore(aside from some matches) im not seeing her doing it. i think that the injurie time made her see things diferently i dont know. im really really sad and pissed at the same time for this . i still love her but her losts are starting to "hurt"

SjuTjuD
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Yes. Venus should take Martina Hingis as an example and retire so that people will miss her and not look at her now with sympathy and sometimes disgust.

volta
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:24 PM
Yes. Venus should take Martina Hingis as an example and retire so that people will miss her and not look at her now with sympathy and sometimes disgust.
so do you.

Denise4925
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Venus still has a lot of work to do. Golovin is tough on the dirt. This one is going to hurt for a while. I'm really disappointed because I THOUGHT Venus was in the right direction...but apparently not.
I thought the same, especially how she looked in Antwerp and Miami, but now, I just don't know. :sad: It's heartbreaking. I wonder how Lindsay's fans coped with her struggle between 2002 and 2004. It would be nice if they could share some light.

GoDominique
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:33 PM
I thought the same, especially how she looked in Antwerp and Miami, but now, I just don't know. :sad: It's heartbreaking. I wonder how Lindsay's fans coped with her struggle between 2002 and 2004. It would be nice if they could share some light.
Lindsay never struggled as much as Venus does now. :)

Denise4925
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:33 PM
Oh come on. You can't compare Venus with a Alex Stevenson :o :cuckoo:
Oh don't pay any attention to GoDumfuck, she/he whatever just got his/her ass kicked in another thread and is coming here for refuge.

Denise4925
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:35 PM
Lindsay never struggled as much as Venus does now. :)
:lol: Yeah right, whatever. :rolleyes:

GoDominique
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:37 PM
:lol: Yeah right, whatever. :rolleyes:
Indeed, what I said is right. :)

GoDominique
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:38 PM
Oh don't pay any attention to GoDumfuck, she/he whatever just got his/her ass kicked in another thread and is coming here for refuge.
Where exactly did that occur? :)

DevilishAttitude
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:41 PM
It's been over for Venus for a long time. Since the injury in 2003. Even then she was very slowly going into decline. She has won 2 matches against Top 10 players since coming back. Myskina who's losing all her matches lately yet could and maybe should have beaten her then and Serena who well was never totally at the match. She's not that difficult to beat anymore. She could have gained a slight aura back about her after the Serena match yet was outplayed by Sharapova and lost to Davenport on clay despite Lindsay playing pretty poorly. Venus just doesn't mean the big matches anymore.

And Venus is just not willing to try and stop the problem. It's kinda sad yet not surpising at the same time.

:)

Geisha
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:42 PM
No it's not. It's not over until she retires. She'll still win many titles, and majors...I have faith and all her real fans do :D

That's right. I don't understand how three weeks ago, Venus was soo EXPLOSIVE! She beats Serena and everybody loves her. "SHE'S HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, NOW!!! VINTAGE VENUS!!!"

Now that she loses to a tough, up and comer, and Lindsay Davenport (World #1), she is crap. She should retire. It is over.

I mean, Venus has been improving ever since the Australian Open. Her schedule shows that she wants to get chances at winning titles agian.

Don't be so freakin' tough on her. GOD.

Denise4925
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:43 PM
Indeed, what I said is right. :)
Oh, you're so sharp. Nothing gets past you. :)

Denise4925
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:44 PM
Where exactly did that occur? :)
Oh, just the greater part of the latter half of that thread. ;) But, I can see how pride won't let you acknowledge that beat down. :lol:

GoDominique
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:44 PM
Oh, just the greater part of the latter half of that thread. ;) But, I can see how pride won't let you acknowledge that beat down. :lol:
I must have missed that part. :)
The only beatdown that I can remember from today was handed out to Venus. :)

Denise4925
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:55 PM
I must have missed that part. :)
The only beatdown that I can remember from today was handed out to Venus. :)
At least you're admitting missing things now. That's the first step. :) Now we have to work on reality. ;)

P.S. Tennis genius...a beatdown does not = 7-5, 6-4. That's what's called a "tight match". Repeat please. :D

venus_rulez
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:50 PM
It is disappointing to see Venus lose, but how do you tarnish a legacy? Being on trial for molesting a child tarnishes a legacy not losing a tennis match. I'd love to see Venus get back to her form but some of you really need a reality check. There are other things out there than winning a tennis match, Venus herself will tell you that. Is it frustrating for her? I'm sure it is to some extent, but she has so many other things she loves in her life that a loss on a tennis court isn't the be all and end all of Venus Williams. If venus is as bad as some of the people on this board pretend she is, then everyone 9 to the end of the computer rankings should also retire.

Kart
Apr 14th, 2005, 09:53 PM
She's still around - it's not like she's quite or something.

Maybe instead of being over it's just taking a bit longer to get restarted :shrug:.

Tennisaddict
Apr 14th, 2005, 11:22 PM
No it's not. It's not over until she retires. She'll still win many titles, and majors...I have faith and all her real fans do :D

True dat :yeah:.

It's funny how people change their opinions about Venus, when she wins they're like:" yay Venus is back :bounce:" when she loses it's: "Venus needs to retool her game, she doesn't have the desire anymore", blah blah blah.

She is not over and is working towards great results which will come this year. One lost tennismatch will not get in the way of that :cool:.

iWill
Apr 14th, 2005, 11:38 PM
I really was disappointed finding out that Venus lost. I read the thing about her losing to up and comers but how many losses is it gonna take for her to get the fire back under her butt and start winning some titles. I mean I'll be the first to say that winning alot of tourneys doesnt make a great player but it helps for someone like Venus who really needs a confidence booster and obviously that win over Serena wansnt good enough. I think if she could've won this tourney or atleast beat Davenport once she will be back on track but I really want to see her do well and this is another sad loss she'll have to endure.

Brooks.
Apr 14th, 2005, 11:48 PM
I must have missed that part. :)
The only beatdown that I can remember from today was handed out to Venus. :)

we'll see whose laughing after paris ;) :p

Grice
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:08 AM
every player has their ups and downs periods.. and this is just one of Venus' downs, and she isn't playing all that badly, she's still reaching some quarters/semis here and there.

She'll be back strong, just like how Lindsay revitalized her career, Venus will do the same too.

Hope to see her lifting the Wimbledon trophy again and her victory dance.

~ The Leopard ~
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:47 AM
No, it's not over. She's only about 24 you know. There are years left in her as a top player.

aNYthing
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:49 AM
No it's not. It's not over until she retires. She'll still win many titles, and majors...I have faith and all her real fans do :D

:worship:

mboyle
Apr 15th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Venus still has a lot of work to do. Golovin is tough on the dirt. This one is going to hurt for a while. I'm really disappointed because I THOUGHT Venus was in the right direction...but apparently not.

Here's the issue: Golovin isn't tough on the dirt. That's why she didn't join my Fantasy squad this week. I looked at her clay history and was far from impressed. Last season, it was her only real weak spot (hell she lost easily in the first round of Roland Garros to someone barely ranked in the top 100.) Granted, Tati played well, but it wasn't like she was blasting Venus off the court.

calabar
Apr 15th, 2005, 01:40 AM
I will NEVER throw in the towel until Venus does.