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GoDominique
Apr 13th, 2005, 04:58 PM
I think so. I have never been a fan but IMO the sport is getting more and more annoying and nasty, and nothing's being done against it.

It's not just the betting scandal in Germany or "fan" riots in Italy. The game itself has totally abandoned fair-play and sportsmanship. All those players (or should I say actors) that go down in pain covering their face when opponents barely touch them make me sick. It seems that they would do anything just to get an advantage. :rolleyes: Why don't officials ban these fakers for several games, maybe that would help.
Most people take football way too serious anyway. It's just a game for god's sake.

Anyway, all this makes me care even less about it and appreciate snooker and curling even more. :)

SelesFan70
Apr 13th, 2005, 05:59 PM
If you're referring to the incident in Milan... :eek: That's insane!

However, American football is doing well! Can't wait for the new season to start! :wavey:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Apr 13th, 2005, 06:00 PM
I'd say football is in a tiny crisis. Footballers are overpaid, outside of Ronaldinho, there is no 'great' player in the world and even Ronaldinho cannot be considered in the same League as Puskas, Di Stefano, Pele, Maradona etc.

Zidane is on his way down very fast and Ronaldo, Shevchenko, Rooney, Van Nistelrooy, Henry etc are top class, but not 'greats'

Players are overpaid and overplayed. More games = less quality because these players aren't fit enough and spend half their lives supping ale in some nightclub in which they get into fights.



I posted this in the footie thread:

I think if anything happens tonight, UEFA MUST act.

Flares must not be allowed into any stadium OR the clubs WILL be punished. None of this 'Oh we can't control what fans do' rubbish.

Plain and simple - ANY violence inside stadiums, the clubs MUST be punished.

Any violence clearly related to the football in town/city areas, the clubs MUST be punished.

After last night, Inter must be thrown out of Europe for 2 seasons. If it persists in tonights match, then ALL Italian clubs must be kicked out of Europe for 2 seasons until they can learn to behave.

It's hard on the true fans as these thugs are NOT football fans. Football fans support their team, not hinder it.

GoDominique
Apr 13th, 2005, 06:00 PM
Football/soccer. :)

NFFC_FAN
Apr 13th, 2005, 07:05 PM
I'd say football is in a tiny crisis. Footballers are overpaid, outside of Ronaldinho, there is no 'great' player in the world and even Ronaldinho cannot be considered in the same League as Puskas, Di Stefano, Pele, Maradona etc.

Zidane is on his way down very fast and Ronaldo, Shevchenko, Rooney, Van Nistelrooy, Henry etc are top class, but not 'greats'

Players are overpaid and overplayed. More games = less quality because these players aren't fit enough and spend half their lives supping ale in some nightclub in which they get into fights.



I posted this in the footie thread:

I think if anything happens tonight, UEFA MUST act.

Flares must not be allowed into any stadium OR the clubs WILL be punished. None of this 'Oh we can't control what fans do' rubbish.

Plain and simple - ANY violence inside stadiums, the clubs MUST be punished.

Any violence clearly related to the football in town/city areas, the clubs MUST be punished.

After last night, Inter must be thrown out of Europe for 2 seasons. If it persists in tonights match, then ALL Italian clubs must be kicked out of Europe for 2 seasons until they can learn to behave.

It's hard on the true fans as these thugs are NOT football fans. Football fans support their team, not hinder it.

I'd rep you but I have to spread... ;)

I basically agree with everything you've said, if I started to elaborate I'd just get angry. :o

I don't think crisis is the right word, it's not as if football is in danger of ceasing to exist or anything like that.

However, I find the financial and corporate side of the game absolutely deplorable, players are treated and thus think that they are Gods, and get paid wages even God himself would be proud of.

The game (speaking from an English football perspective) sold itself out years ago, and things have just gone from bad to worse.

Too late to do anything now though, I guess we just have to grin and bear it.

DevilishAttitude
Apr 13th, 2005, 07:21 PM
No. :)

Football will only be in crisis when it's popularity beings to fade and that won't be happening for a long time.

Martian Willow
Apr 13th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Football's popularity is half it's problem, just like F1. They just look at the viewing figures and realise they can keep their heads in the sand for as long as they want, while the sport slowly drifts down the shitter. As long as they're getting paid, that's all that counts, and fuck the fans. :)

Andy Mac
Apr 13th, 2005, 09:54 PM
If you're referring to the incident in Milan... :eek: That's insane!

However, American football is doing well! Can't wait for the new season to start! :wavey:
:worship: same here mate....GO RAIDERS!

KoOlMaNsEaN
Apr 13th, 2005, 10:07 PM
I couldn't believe it last night in Milan when they were continously throwing fireworks and it hit the goalie on the shoulder and he had a skin burn. Milan should do something about it.

controlfreak
Apr 13th, 2005, 10:16 PM
My problem with today's football is dishonesty. 90% of the players are trying to cheat, whether by diving, faking injury, or fouling too much. Look at an average professional football match and you can see maybe 2 or 3 players on the pitch who do not act dishonestly and instead just get on with playing football. Everywhere you look, there is shirt-tugging, grappling, fighting, and deliberate fouls by players who don't even try to go after the ball. And the referees are far too lenient. The solution is to start sending players off much sooner. Shirt-pulling and jostling should be instant yellow cards, and about 75% of the sliding tackles I have seen should be a straight red for dangerous play. But instead FIFA and UEFA only want to penalise players for swearing, taking their shirts off in celebration, and unavoidable ball-to-hand incidents. When the matches start ending with 6 players against 7, the players and managers will soon see that fair play will give their team a huge advantage - and clubs will start training players to play fairly. Cleaning up the game like this will lengthen players' careers and maybe prevent the next Pele or Maradona from choosing a career in snooker or curling because he doesn't want to get his legs broken every week on the football pitch. I feel quite strongly about this and I honestly can't understand how the beautiful game which kids enjoy all in playgrounds over the world, and which I enjoyed so much as a child, can turn into the cynical, bone-crunching mess that is professional football. Sometimes I even think that something like boxing is a more honest and fair sport than what I see on football pitches. I wish the beautiful game could be cleaned up and taken back to the game everyone loves to play and watch.

Joana
Apr 13th, 2005, 11:22 PM
I hope it is. I don't have anything against football (though I do find it boring) but the modern players are just pathetic and act like a bunch of spoiled teenage girls.

Szymanowski
Apr 13th, 2005, 11:24 PM
Football has people who spoil it for everyone. These people do to football what trolls do to this message board. It's net necessary. And think how many people threw flares onto the pitch? It looked pretty smokey? I'd guess (and this is pretty random) that between 50and 100 people had flares and perhaps 10% of these were lit and thrown onto the pitch. That's a random guess, but I bet it's somewhere around that. Now consider the Stadium's capacity. That is a tiny percentage of the crowd, and does not represent the overall fanbase. It's simply a case of a few idiots spoiling it for everyone.

I would say that yes, it is in a crisis, but only because of a minority.


Re: GoDominique, I also agree that a bit of respect between players/opponants, and also fans, wouldn't go amiss.

Huntress555
Apr 14th, 2005, 07:45 AM
Soccer has always been the craziest sport and most publicised though...

Every sport has fans taht ruin it for the rest... league is alright i've never had any problems, and theres never been big big events... but every sport has disruptive fans...

Stamp Paid
Apr 14th, 2005, 08:49 AM
Not to mention the racism. :)

GoDominique
May 12th, 2006, 12:50 PM
Bump.

More corruption and cheating. I'll be glad when the WC is over. :)

furrykitten
May 12th, 2006, 12:59 PM
I can only say what I think of football in UK, hooliganism within stadiums is virtually unknown of now in England and Scotland, I understand through TV footage and news that other countries, Italy for one, this problem is still bad. The trouble though has moved outside the grounds, with nasty elements using football as an excuse to cause trouble. My team Wolves, certainly has a section of nasty fans, but maybe its just a refection on society, there are too many thugs and yobs around nowadays its shameful and harms our reputation abroad when they follow their teams.

Martian Stacey
May 12th, 2006, 01:47 PM
Football/soccer isn't as popular in Australia as the other football codes we have, so its not as crazy here as in other parts of the world :)

I'm excited about the World Cup, but only because this is the first time i'll get to see Australia compete (and only the second time we'll participate). I just hope we can do better than last time, where we didn't score any points :o :lol:

But i do find it appauling the way some players take dives and the way they carry on during the match :tape: And i think more needs to be done regarding crowd control... some of the stuff that goes on is just insane :eek: I'm so glad we don't have that here!

furrykitten
May 12th, 2006, 01:54 PM
But i do find it appauling the way some players take dives and the way they carry on during the match :tape: And i think more needs to be done regarding crowd control... some of the stuff that goes on is just insane :eek: I'm so glad we don't have that here!


You are right about the diving, even in EPL, its getting worse, the top teams are the worst culprits too, Chelsea, Arsenal for 2!.

BUBI
May 13th, 2006, 05:37 PM
My problem with today's football is dishonesty. 90% of the players are trying to cheat, whether by diving, faking injury, or fouling too much. Look at an average professional football match and you can see maybe 2 or 3 players on the pitch who do not act dishonestly and instead just get on with playing football. Everywhere you look, there is shirt-tugging, grappling, fighting, and deliberate fouls by players who don't even try to go after the ball. And the referees are far too lenient. The solution is to start sending players off much sooner. Shirt-pulling and jostling should be instant yellow cards, and about 75% of the sliding tackles I have seen should be a straight red for dangerous play. But instead FIFA and UEFA only want to penalise players for swearing, taking their shirts off in celebration, and unavoidable ball-to-hand incidents. When the matches start ending with 6 players against 7, the players and managers will soon see that fair play will give their team a huge advantage - and clubs will start training players to play fairly. Cleaning up the game like this will lengthen players' careers and maybe prevent the next Pele or Maradona from choosing a career in snooker or curling because he doesn't want to get his legs broken every week on the football pitch. I feel quite strongly about this and I honestly can't understand how the beautiful game which kids enjoy all in playgrounds over the world, and which I enjoyed so much as a child, can turn into the cynical, bone-crunching mess that is professional football. Sometimes I even think that something like boxing is a more honest and fair sport than what I see on football pitches. I wish the beautiful game could be cleaned up and taken back to the game everyone loves to play and watch.

:worship: I agree 100%.

Is there world cup 2006 thread somewhere? :bounce: