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CanadianBoy21
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:03 AM
Discuss.
How many points do they have coming off this clay season altogether?

Lindsay 5233.00
Amelia 4992.00
Maria 4892.00
Serena 4223.00

I don't know how Maria did last year at the French. Serena reached Querters.
Serena is better on clay, and should be the favourite at the French, but Maria is on a hot streak and playing great.
I'm not good at figuring out the rankings though and all the points falling off.

Brooks.
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:08 AM
the top three after the french will more than likely be:

1. lindsay davenport
2. serena williams
3. maria sharapova

obviously i could be wrong about the order but i expect serena to have good results in amelia,berlin,rome, and paris whereas im not sure how maria will do...........hypothetically speaking.......if serena wins lets say one tier 1 clay event, Rome, and the french will that be enough to make her number 1???........anyways im pretty sure that those will be the top three but im not sure about the order

volta
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:09 AM
well Rena is givin a serious f*ck about it and so am i. as long as she keaps winning Tournaments i really don´t care about the #1. if Rena wants it (and stays away from injuries )

JenFan75
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:09 AM
Why is this being discussed? Lindsay isn't going to lose her number one ranking for a very very long time.

:p

VeeReeDavJCap81
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:11 AM
Serena always says her goal is to win Grand Slams, and then the ranking comes with it. Which is true. If Serena wins the French, and does well at both the US Open and Wimbledon...she'll get it. She already has the Australian so that gives her a slight edge.

JenFan75
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:16 AM
Serena always says her goal is to win Grand Slams, and then the ranking comes with it. Which is true. If Serena wins the French, and does well at both the US Open and Wimbledon...she'll get it. She already has the Australian so that gives her a slight edge.

Serena says her goal is to win slams...what do you think Maria's goals are? :confused:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:20 AM
Serena says her goal is to win slams...what do you think Maria's goals are? :confused:

What I meant was...Serena doesn't focus on her ranking. Maria wants to get to #1, and she's stated that.

Brooks.
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:23 AM
What I meant was...Serena doesn't focus on her ranking. Maria wants to get to #1, and she's stated that.

just ignore that poster...........he/she is not worth your time of day :lol: ;)

JenFan75
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:24 AM
What I meant was...Serena doesn't focus on her ranking. Maria wants to get to #1, and she's stated that.


People actually believe that? Every player cares about their ranking on some level.

Ryan
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:24 AM
Unless Serena goes on a claycourt tear, she will not pass Maria. Both have roughly the same points to defend at RG, so whoever does better there should be ranked higher, possibly #1 if one of them wins it.

densuprun
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Maria will get it before Serena.

At least this is more likely than the opposite. Especially with current point difference and Serena not caring much about the #1 spot.

volta
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:27 AM
just ignore that poster...........he/she is not worth your time of day :lol: ;)
:worship:

faboozadoo15
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:30 AM
there's over a 650 point difference between these two women there, and with maria not losing before the semi's yet, i don't expect her to have a horrible clay season. nor do i expect serena to have THAT much better of a clay season than her.

densuprun
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:40 AM
Yeah, Lindsay and Maria were the most consistent players on the tour so far. #1 spot will be the battle between them for quite some time. Even if Serena wins RG while not doing much in other tournaments before Wimbledon, it won't give her #1, if Maria keeps on going to at least semifinals in all tournaments that she enters.

Oizo
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:41 AM
Maria has it in her hands :devil: She is the next and 15th Number 1 WTA player in the history. :yippee:

kiwifan
Apr 6th, 2005, 02:00 AM
Once you've been number one, only the slams really matter.

Maria should get there first because she's the one who has being number one as a goal. Serena's been there done that. She'd rather win 3 specific events than wear the "computer crown". :p

Diesel
Apr 6th, 2005, 02:11 AM
Once you've been number one, only the slams really matter.

Maria should get there first because she's the one who has being number one as a goal. Serena's been there done that. She'd rather win 3 specific events than wear the "computer crown". :p

:worship:

faboozadoo15
Apr 6th, 2005, 03:13 AM
it's weird to imagine serena possibly winning the french open and not being #1. i don't like her nearly as much as my favorites, and even i would say that's :bs: unless maria gets to the final and has a really awesome pre- RG clay season (which i don't see happening. i think she'll be 'solid' and maybe win one big title).
anyway, maria seems to have #1 on her racquet and that's a great testament to her consistency and how well she has played since RG last year.

Ted of Teds Tennis
Apr 6th, 2005, 03:41 AM
it's weird to imagine serena possibly winning the french open and not being #1. i don't like her nearly as much as my favorites, and even i would say that's :bs: unless maria gets to the final and has a really awesome pre- RG clay season (which i don't see happening. i think she'll be 'solid' and maybe win one big title).
anyway, maria seems to have #1 on her racquet and that's a great testament to her consistency and how well she has played since RG last year.
Um, what about Davenport having #1 on her racquet? She's still ahead of everybody else, and only reached the fourth round at RG last year, while the three players immediately behind her all reached the quarters.

Yes, I know Davenport's results on red clay haven't been that good historically, but Maria hasn't done much either, and Serena is significantly further behind.

faboozadoo15
Apr 6th, 2005, 05:01 AM
Um, what about Davenport having #1 on her racquet? She's still ahead of everybody else, and only reached the fourth round at RG last year, while the three players immediately behind her all reached the quarters.

Yes, I know Davenport's results on red clay haven't been that good historically, but Maria hasn't done much either, and Serena is significantly further behind.
i agree with that, for sure.

i would need to see what the rankings look like with everything through the french open off. i know lindsay is defending champion this week and has finalist points in strasbourg where she may not even play, imo.

i'm going out on a limb, but i say maria has much more clay potential than lindsay, and she's playing the bigger point euro clay events. yes, she has QF points to defend at RG, but i think she'll for sure do that well or better.

tennnisfannn
Apr 6th, 2005, 09:50 AM
lindsasy doesn't look like she is about to lose it, she barley played on clay last year, she may pick up one of the tier 1s and the hnt is on again. Her usopen series will keep up right up there.
Even if maria and serena catch up, there won't be much difference points wise, the no.1 will keep shifting on a weekly basis. Amelei is still right up there too.
To think at some point myskina was within striking distance is even more amazing coz she is gettting further and further.
on that note, kim is going to chipping at thier heels too, not so much for the no. 1 but at their chances of gettting 'dominant' again.

SJW
Apr 6th, 2005, 10:18 AM
if Lindsay does well at AI and Rome (i think she's playing there) and at the FO she'll probably keep it i reckon.

Maria has to reach it before the grass season, cuz all those points, and then i see Serena getting it after the grass season. but we all know what happened to Myskina. i said she would really have to fuck up to not reach #1 at the end of last year and guess what she did.

plus i dont care about Serena's ranking. Henin can have it for all i care. what i want is for the WS to win the slams (or Alicia or Kim:))

faboozadoo15
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:17 PM
if maria doesn't get it during the clay season, i wouldn't put her out of it. she'll be the favorite going into wimbledon for sure, and she played like crap last year during the us open series where she stands to gain TONS of points.

Veenut
Apr 6th, 2005, 03:03 PM
it's weird to imagine serena possibly winning the french open and not being #1. i don't like her nearly as much as my favorites, and even i would say that's :bs: unless maria gets to the final and has a really awesome pre- RG clay season (which i don't see happening. i think she'll be 'solid' and maybe win one big title).
anyway, maria seems to have #1 on her racquet and that's a great testament to her consistency and how well she has played since RG last year.

Well it is good to see someone acknowledging that the present ranking system on the WTA is bs. If winning two consecutive majors and can't reach #1 seem weird to an avid tennis fan can you imagine how causual fans view this?

It is no wonder they often think of Serena as #1 because they are going by what they see on their tv and if they see her winning majors on their tv they automatically think she is the best player and should be #1. BTW most Americans go by what they see on the tv, therefore if Maria can't win a trophy on the tv for them to see before their eyes she has a problem being considered the best. Americans love winners!!!

jonny84
Apr 6th, 2005, 04:10 PM
I can see Serena getting there first as she is best on clay.

iWill
Apr 6th, 2005, 10:22 PM
Well it is good to see someone acknowledging that the present ranking system on the WTA is bs. If winning two consecutive majors and can't reach #1 seem weird to an avid tennis fan can you imagine how causual fans view this?

It is no wonder they often think of Serena as #1 because they are going by what they see on their tv and if they see her winning majors on their tv they automatically think she is the best player and should be #1. BTW most Americans go by what they see on the tv, therefore if Maria can't win a trophy on the tv for them to see before their eyes she has a problem being considered the best. Americans love winners!!!


That's true I expect Davenport will remain #1 atleast until Wimbledon then I think depending on their performance at Wimbledon either Sharapova or Serena will be #1 I think that personally even though i am a huge Serena fan Sharapova will get it first but when she does finally get it Serena will be 2 and Davenport 3 so if she does finally get it she won't have it long cuz shes gonna have an even bigger target on her back then she does now

AkademiQ
Apr 6th, 2005, 10:25 PM
I'll take Serena winning another slam and then some this year. The #1 can come when it comes.

andrewbroad
Apr 11th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Discuss.
How many points do they have coming off this clay season altogether?

Lindsay 5233.00
Amelia 4992.00
Maria 4892.00
Serena 4223.00

I don't know how Maria did last year at the French. Serena reached Querters.

Maria too.

Serena is better on clay,

Correction: Serena is proven on clay (she did win the French Open 2002, after all).

If Serena is going to be #1 again, she needs to do it before Maria becomes invincible. Once Maria has successfully defended her Wimbledon crown and reached #1, it may be too late for anyone else already on the tour ever to take the #1 spot away from her! :D

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